...or that the only thing your amazing "defense" prevented was any chance at a win.  It couldn't even force one single punt.  Not ONE.

Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice...you're a PSU fan who thinks you have a chance with Morelli.  I mean, seriously, have any of you seen any of the games this season?  And you still thought you had a chance?

I think Morelli should get drafted by the Bears, he'll fit into their system perfectly.

Oh - btw - someone tell us all how "PSU" is a "great" program again...open your eyes people...mediocrity as usual.  If you didn't play 4 creampuffs and the rest of the Fat 10 you wouldn't be above .500.

Awful.

Out coached and out played....can't wait to hear the excuses.

Maybe the Buckeyes will play a "real team" and face a "real test" next week.  I doubt it.  

It's past 10, shouldn't you be in bed?

To the Penn State fans - best of luck in bowl season.  Represent the Big Ten well again.  

Real classy coach you have there, admits on TV that he won't even listen to Scott's side of the story.  I'd send my kid there...

Oh - and everyone who points out how classless your fans are is a "fucking liar" - then they give the gameday crew a beer shower.  I'm not sure if you people are more classless or delusional...

PSU Football: mediocrity (but we had that one good season!) since the last time ND won a bowl game.  (yes, that long ago - look it up: 95).

Did you folks really think PSU would win this?  Come on.  Weaknesses: QB, RB, TE (more often than not), FB (injury), DBs (what's worse--get beat deep, or give a 10-yard cushion on every pass play?).  The defense is good, but Ohio State's OL is relatively bigger (OSU's OL had their way all game).  And, goodness--OSU's coaching is not predictable.  Sure, PSU inserted a few new ditties into its book the last three weeks.  But I wouldn't doubt that Kerry Collins could come back, step behind center, and still call out the same plays.  The same is true for Tony Sacca.

The reality is that this team will not regain its swagger until Joe leaves.  Why?  It simply cannot consistently recruit top talent like other schools.  Look at talent development under Joe--PSU can create great defensive players, no doubt.  But offensive?  Not a chance.  If you QB at PSU, expect to work a desk job or play special teams in the NFL.  RB?  Don't tell me Larry Johnson was the product of quality coaching.  He was a self-driven maniac who wanted to prove to the world that he could be a quality player.  Would I send my kid to PSU?  Well, I say yes because I love the place, but let's be realistic.  Joe's merit system + lack of proper development + often waste of talent = crapshoot.

PSU has classless fans (anyone who starts a f--k chant, for example).  So does OSU (spraypainting the sign? Good grief).  So does Michigan (no one needs to discuss attending an away game at the big house).  So does Wisconsin (but they're mostly nice folk... must be the Wisconsin water).  Idiots exist in every college stadium.  Unfortunately, only those who cause problems get publicity.  I find the debate funny, though.  It reminds me of when Mets fans accuse Phils fans of being classless, and Phils fans do the same back.  It's everywhere, folks.

What else....

The Big 10.  The Big 10 is down--big time.  Ohio State essentially is the prettiest girl at fat camp.  But, at the end of the day, she's still at fat camp.  Last year Florida brought it's prom queen, and I don't doubt another school will do the same this year.  Do I want to see that?  Hell no.  I wish a Big 10 team would win the national championship just to shut the collective mouth of the SEC, Big East, etc.  I just don't see it happening--yet.  Ask me again in three weeks (I still see Michigan playing up against PSU and winning one... who knows).

Ohio State generally.  They played well.  And they were meticulous in thinking one step ahead of PSU's coaches (though, one must wonder if Joe actually thinks at current speed, or a little slower...).  They mixed their plays well.  They played like they wanted to stay undefeated, while PSU played like they wanted to stay close.  That's what you expect from a better team.  Tressel is a great coach.  Joe was a great coach.  Big difference.  We can't compare their careers now, but twenty or thirty years from now, I wouldn't doubt they be mentioned in the same group of names.

Lastly, folks, sit in your chair tomorrow, watch some football, enjoy the fall weather, etc.  Why get worked up about a few OSU posters here?  Shoot.  Ever peak at an OSU (or any opposing team) message board?  We may not sling crap, but others do.  So, it's only right we expect it here.  It's no different than after a PSU win seeing some drunk buffoon yelling at fans from the opposing team, or vice versa.  The only way to stop it?  Win.  It's as simple as that.  But, until the program undergoes some changes, we better get used to having visitors a few times each year.

"ahh...nahh....King played pretty good...."

"nahhh...morelli, he's fine...he'll start next week...he does a good job...."

Mmmmm...shit sammiches anyone?  Who wants seconds (and thirds, and fourths...)?

Good luck with...temple?  I'm sure you all expect to be ranked after beating the next three cream-puffs...

Too bad for you no one else will admit it.  Get ready for the "giants of geriatrics" mediocrity tour '08, coming your way next fall.

OSU saw this game as a way to shut everyone up about their weak schedule, they did it prime time and on TV.

I just hope that BC loses a game along the way so OSU has a chance to get their asses waxed again by some SEC team for the national championship.

I want the Big11 to do well in the bowls, but I don't care to see OSU or scUM win the national title.   The fallout would be bad for our recruiting efforts.

did you guys see the signs at Penn State, on ESPN
http://footballjesus.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/best-signs-at-espn-college-gameday-happy-valley/

good stuff

I'm not a big Morelli fan, and wasn't surprised to see his level of play in last night's game.  Not too good, but not too bad - just about what he does every game with a few exceptions either way. Basicially he did what he is equipped to do. Didn't think he'd maintain the first drive effectiveness because the longer he has to think about what he has to accomplish the less he gets done.

But I'm a little taken aback that on the day after the game so many fans seem so shocked at the loss - and if you read the message boards before the kickoff everyone really thought OSU would fold up apparently just because it was a PSU home game.

So my question is that now that you have had a bit of time to reflect on how PSU and OSU played are you really that surprised that OSU won so convincingly? Without the emotion of the loss and looking at the relative strengths and weaknesses of each team, does it make sense?

I suppose I'm surprised at the final score if nothing else - I had predicted a closer, lower scoring game going to OSU, mainly because they are the #1 team and pretty handily have won all their games so far, and thought both defenses were top shelf.

Again, I've tried to word this so as not to offend, but I usually get honest feedback on this site and was wondering if most predictions prior to the game were bravado or really based on what the fans thought would happen.  Thanks....

PITT is going through much the same with Dorin Dickerson in that he really hasn't done anything, even through off season camps from the get-go, at the level that would show he's deserving of the pre-college hype.  He'll get a better chance to start at LB next season and we'll see if he can't salvage something. Luckily our other two "super recruits" are showing their worth early on in Bostick, who was pretty much starter by default, and McCoy, who has been a real joy to watch play - so their hype seems justifiable, at least to this point.

Anyway - I wouldn't be surprised in PSU finishes strong, maybe one more loss for 8-4 and a bowl, maybe 9-3 if the senior's leadership qualities kick into high gear.