Should we look to the future and start Devlin or Clark?
A lot of our problems in these big games i feel can be attributed to our quarterbacks not having much experience in the big game. I'm in no way a Morelli hater, but what are we playing for the rest of the season? We're definetely bowl eligible but there's no chance of getting a BCS bowl. We're looking at Alamo bowl or maybe the Outback bowl again at best. So why not the last three games of this season get Devlin and Clark some more reps and get them more experience so next year their ready and maybe this year we as fans can see what their made of. Ohio State has been doing this for years, why can't we?
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[2] You owe your seniors the opportunity to have the best season possible. You don't flush senior day and play a red shirt freshment so that some other team might be better. That's bullshit.
You play your best guys today, not your best guys ten months from now. That is not how you build a program, that's how you save your job for another season.
Your Best Guys........
That fumble on the sidelines was a laser. I haven't watched either he or Morelli live, but from what I could tell on TV I don't think Morelli would have made that play.
I think we are too caught up in the 5-Star Morelli hype machine to even suggest that Clark would do better than Morelli.
Its like when a radio station plays a song until its a hit. Or when a musician is deemed a genius (Kurt Cobain) and to suggest otherwise brings an onslaught of ridicule.
From what I have seen, I have no reason to believe this team is any worse with Clark back there. And in my opinion, Paternos allegiance and responsibility is to the program, not to the Sr's. If that means benching Morelli, then so be it. Another analogy, let's play Charlie Frye because we wasted a number one draft pick on him when we have other QB's (Kelly Holcomb at one point, and now Derek Alexander) who didn't come in with the fanfare but clearly have outplayed Frye when the lights came on.
This isn't about looking good in practice, its about looking good under the camera and the lights. We won't know if Clark or Devlin are any better cause we won't play them.
yea
One More Thing.........
You're right!
by PSUncle1981 on Oct 30, 2007 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
fair analysis...
Second, I don't think he has blind loyalty to seniors, rather, I think that seniors win ties in terms of who gets playing time. But if a underclassmen beats out upperclassman the better player will be on the field.
Finally, I never said he has an obligation to play seniors, I said he owes the seniors their best chance to win their remaining games, as opposed playing Clark or Devlin just so they gets more reps for next season. I think it was implicit in the original poster's point that Morelli is superior to both Clark and Devlin today, but they will be more successful next season if they started playing next week. I truly believe that if Joe Paterno thought putting Darryl Clark in would give the team a better chance to win, that he would do it.
It's happened before
That's a good point
Anthony Morelli is not a bust. Austin Scott is a bust. Anthony's not an all time great, but he has been more than adequate most of the season, and he has had flashes of brilliance, that we have not seen out of any Penn State quarterback since Kerry Collins.
Also, it was the Defense that lost the game on Saturday, If you would have told me Saturday that PSU would score 17 points I would have given us a better than 50% shot to win. His intercetpion, while awful, happened long after the game was over. If the Defense could have gotten off the field on third down, State might have had a chance.
Agree
I don't think there's any chance that Morelli won't start the remaining games (unless he gets seriously injured), so any discussion of his being replaced is pointless.
I just hope
by WarStreets on Oct 29, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
Hey can we
Let Morelli start but give the young guys some PT
by jubjub on Oct 29, 2007 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
Well
#2 Just because we aren't going to win the Big 10 doesnt mean we should start getting ready for next year. Do wild card teams in football start playing rookies going into the postseason? Hell no. Why should Penn State be any different? This is such a stupid conversation, I can't believe I'm acknowleging it. Mark it down, Penn State isn't going to win the NC next season because Pat Devlin started at Michigan St. Benching the Sr. is something struggling teams do, not one fighting for a marquee matchup on New Year's Day. What will impress recruits more? A team that won the Outback Bowl by beating Florida on New Years Day or beaking K-State in the Alamo Bowl on the NFL network Dec 26?
Use your freaking head.
PG
They mean Lydell Sargeant.
F the Post gazette.
Hmmm...........
Clearly you know something that flys in the face of the body of work put forth by Morelli.
Here are some quick hits on Morelli this year:
Vs. Bufflo and FIU - 43/65 66.1 500 yards 7 TDs
Against other teams: 116/203 57.1 1353 6 TD 8 INT
Let me point this out......6 TDs in 7 GAMES!!!
So 27% of his yardage and 53.8 percent of his TDs came against Buffalo and FIU.
Even with the cream puffs factored in:
PSU is 54th in 54th completion percentage
63rd in total passing yards
58th in passing TDs
78th in passing yards per game
104 teams with longer longest pass play than us.
Pretty paltry...especially with all those "weapons" at wide out.
Florida - Tim Tebow has scored 30 TDs.
K. State - QB has very similar numbers to Morelli, but Josh Freeman is a True Sophmore.
I'm sorry, Fugi.....I understand where you are coming from, but to dismiss the idea of somebody else coming in totally out of hand doesn't make sense to me in light of these numbers.
I also think you could just as easily make the argument that any recruit looking at this from the outside-in could be turned off by this Coaching Staffs reluctance to make a switch to get a spark. If I have one college career, I would hate to think if I came in behind some stud that I couldn't compete for the job. I refuse to believe that Clark would do WORSE than Morelli. Am I saying bench him....no...but the idea isn't ridiculous. I think Michael Robinson sat and stagnated behind Zack Mills. Why let Clark or Devlin totally stagnate behind Morelli. At least with Mills there was a bit of a track record to lead and win. With Morelli, there has been nothing but a few games where he managed the game well and some doofus for Rivals telling us all what to believe despite what we have seen.
For the gajillionth time
I'm not throwing that away for Devlin or Clark to get 20 snaps, sorry. You build for next year in the spring, not going into the post season. As I said, give me the Sr. The only game he has overtly blown this year was Ill. I have more faith in him that anyone else to get us to Janury.
by fugimaster24 on Oct 30, 2007 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes we should start Clark
Clark is more enthusiastic, and more of a natural leader. I truly think the players would respond better to Clark. What is so vexing is that we don't even give Clark a shot, let's at least SEE if he can make some plays. I want to see Devlin too but that is a total lost cause, give the PD talk a break cause it ain't happening any time soon.
oops
by nittanyroar on Oct 29, 2007 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
How about some proof...
I'm sorry, but...
First, this is not quoted as an "an internet rumor", it is quoted as an established fact, that we "forgot". Second, whether or not you are a Morelli fan he is one of our own, a Penn Stater, we chose him, and he chose us., and so long as Coach Paterno believes in him, so do I. Frankly, we should treat our own guys better than quoting unsubstantiated internet gossip as fact simply because we are upset that the team lost to a clearly superior opponent.
Obviously
by nittanyroar on Oct 30, 2007 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Rumors
Q: Talk about the first drive and how well you ran the ball.
A: We mixed it up well. We had them on our heels and there was great play calling. We seemed to get away from that a little bit.
Q: During the second quarter, on the fourth and two, did the offense want to stay out there for that?
A: Absolutely. There is no team in America that does not want to stay out there and go for it. That is Coach Paterno's call. That is his decision. He gets paid for that. That is all on him, not us.
I didn't think this was commentary very becoming of a team captain.
And one more thing
I did read into it a bit, but not too much
Those are simply personal insults levied against someone whom you have apparently never met, and what you think the opinions of the football team are, despite the fact that not one player or coach has said anything at all to that effect. If you want to talk about football, talk about football.
Personal attacks against a 21 year old kid who gives more of himself to Penn State in a week, then most of us will in our life are weak, lazy, and shitty.
Stop Right There
by fugimaster24 on Oct 30, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He the one going to
Seriously...........
I obviously don't read every single line written abotu PSU or Morelli. But I don't recall much if any praise in the press from ANY of Morelli's teammates this year. That has to say something.
Joe not letting the 22 or 23 year old "Leader" of his team talk to the press ? Maybe its because he knows he is going to say stuff like he did above.
And what does it say if the team DOESN'T elect the 5th Year Senior QB as a Captain ?
I have the feeling there are a lot of parents of players on this team that are not very happy about this allegiance to Morelli. But who knows, I have mis-read things before.
Anyone remember...
At least he could back it up with playing.
But really, the playcalling only changed with Michael Robinson. I attribute all this mediocrity to the coaching staff.
Can you imagine this stuff happening with Jerry Sandusky and Fran Ganter? no.
by WarStreets on Oct 30, 2007 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
You know things are bad
At least
Jeez... he made McQueery look good.
by WarStreets on Oct 30, 2007 4:24 PM EDT reply actions

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