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Feel The Hate

When Penn State joined the Big Ten many of our traditional rivalries went by the wayside. We don't play West Virginia anymore. We don't play Rutgers or Syracuse. We hang on to Temple, but c'mon. We played Pitt for a few years, but economics have gotten in the way of that once great traditionally easy win.

We've been looking for a new rival ever since. We've turned toward Ohio State and Michigan, but truthfully we're the third wheel there. Maybe even the fourth or fifth wheel in their eyes. They hate each other so much we're just a nuisance on their radar screen. So alone we drift though the Big Ten and college football landscape without an evil foe to take down. We are a ying without a yang. We're Magic without a Bird. We're Itchy without a Scratchy.

Michigan State was in a similar situation to us when we joined the Big Ten back in the early 90's. They considered Michigan their biggest rival. Some would say they still do. George Perles tried to fabricate a rivalry with Joe Paterno. But you can't form a rivalry with a handshake. You can't just decide to hate another team. Hate is like a fine bottle of wine. It ferments over the years. The conditions must be perfect to form a mentality where you enjoy seeing your rival suffer. No sir, you can't form a rivalry with a handshake, but that's what Perles and Paterno did. They made a trophy and everything. The Land Grant Trophy.

It's big, it's ugly, it's ours.

Look at this piece of crap. It's so huge it takes two 300 pound linemen to carry it around. It takes up two seats on the plane to East Lansing. It has shelves. SHELVES! There's a walk-in closet in the back. And are those pictures on the side? I've never seen a trophy with a photo album on it. And the thing on top looks like a bowling trophy. It's easily the dumbest trophy ever conceived. But you know what? I want it. It's lived in Happy Valley for the past three years. When they take it off the shelf of the trophy case, or pick it up off the floor with a forklift, there will be a clean spot surrounded by dust where it rested. And after the game I want it returned so we don't have to call the maid on Monday morning.

No sir, you can't form a rivalry with a handshake. But at some point someone somewhere has to be the first to look across the fence at their neighbor and feel hate. So why not here? Why not now? I'll go ahead and be the first. I hate Michigan State.

But Mike, you say, that's not right. We're Penn State. We don't hate people. That's not classy. Is it not righteous for good to hate evil? Does God not hate Satan? Did Churchill not hate Hitler? Am I the only one that remembers them planting the flag in South Bend? Am I the only one who remembers them brawling with Illinois when they tried to do the same thing to the Spartans in East Lansing? Or standing on guard last year after they blew the game against Notre Dame expecting the Irish to return the favor? They have no honor. They have no class. They are evil.

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I can't tell you how much I enjoyed denying them their sixth win and a trip to a bowl game in 2000, 2004 and 2005. Even during the dark years when Penn State sucked, we still had Michigan State as our "little brother". With only four wins in 2000 and nothing to play for we denied Sparty a trip to a bowl game with a 42-23 win. Again with nothing to play for in 2001 we beat them 42-37. Oh how we watched with glee as Larry Johnson rushed for 279 yards in the first half in 2002. They got lucky with a win in 2003 over a 3-9 Penn State team that didn't care anymore. But we got our revenge in 2004 and 2005 sticking Sparty on five wins and leaving them home for the holidays.

Eat That Sparty!

I enjoy watching them implode. Penn State can lose, but as long as Michigan State loses too it's still a good day. John L. Smith was a blogger's wet dream. From throwing his assistant coaches under the bus on national television to slapping himself after blowing a huge second half lead against Notre Dame. The man was a loser, and he exemplified everything Michigan State stands for. I was saddened when they let Smith go, but it appears Dantonio may be just as stupid as Smith was.

Hey, did I ever tell you how to get a Michigan State grad off of your porch? You pay them for the pizza. People who can't get into Penn State go to Pitt. If you can't get into Pitt you go to Michigan State. That's how bad they are. It's true you can use your Michigan State diploma as a handicap sticker in Michigan. Oh, and have you ever seen Michigan State women? They're so fat they have to keep dollars in one pocket and euros in the other. They're so fat when they go to the beach the tide comes in. Oh, and like Michigan State's graduate program, they're really easy.

I hate Michigan State. I hope they lose. And I don't just want to win. I hope we destroy them by 60 points. I hope the loss is so disappointing they don't get invited to a bowl game. And I hope when they watch us play in our bowl they remember it was because of us they're getting fat on fruit cake instead of playing football.

No sir, you can't start a rivalry with a handshake, but you have to start somewhere. Let this be the place. Let this be the time. Feel the hate with me.

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Wow, I never thought I would "hate" MSU but after reading that article "death to sparty".

I feel the hate and me like it.

Strike First...Strike Hard...No Mercy

by SweepTheLeg on Nov 15, 2007 11:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well
If we'd actually beaten Michigan in the last few years, perhaps that game would be a rivalry?

For something to be a rivalry, the other team has to win once in a while.  Michigan St. will not beat us.

As you said, they're our "little brother".  n the way home from the Purdue game, we were listening to UM-MSU on the radio just as they went up by 10.  My friend said "O wow, dangerous team".  I said "just wait, they'll find a way to blow it".

THEY ALWAYS DO!!!  They make me laugh more that hate.  I'd like to hate MSU, but they'd have to do something worth hating to us first.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by fugimaster24 on Nov 15, 2007 11:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Damn
That was a great read Mike, hopefully your post can help replace my apathy with hate. Well played sir, well played.

by nittanyroar on Nov 15, 2007 12:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hatred
It is too hard to hate and laugh at the same time.  I suggest we fans ask for the trophy after the game next year and heave the thing up over the top of the stadium.  When I was at PSU we got the orange mascot(syracuse) to be passed up and he made it about 1/3 of the way up the student section before being defrocked.  It was funny, if it happened today it would be great youtube material.  

by PSU86 on Nov 15, 2007 12:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow
You rule Mike. I think I might hate MSU.

Plus, there's this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_pederasty

Eww, creepy!

by MarkoMancuso on Nov 15, 2007 12:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

drinking?
Started early this morning eh?  I'm with 86, i'd hate them if they weren't so darn comical.  Who would have thought a team could be more schizophrenic then Brittney Spears?  

I do enjoy watching them suffer though a little more than most but less than Michigan and Ohio State.

by psu1313 on Nov 15, 2007 2:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hate
gooooooooooooooooooooddddd.  I can feel your anger. I am unarmed. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete.
JD

by psudrozz on Nov 15, 2007 5:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Undefeated
Here's where it will become a rivalry, when State and Sparty are both undefeated and playing for the BCS title/Rose.  That's it, other than that it's another game

by thegooch on Nov 15, 2007 5:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hatred
I agree with psu1313.  Michigan State is schizophrenic/bipolar.  I can't hate them as they've never cost us a national championship (Damn Michigan in '05) or cheated to beat us (Michigan '99, '02, '05).  Nope, sorry.  I hate
Michigan most, followed by Ohio State (their writers voting Nebraska #1 after the 63-14 thumping in '94), Nebraska (because of dear old Dr. Tom Osborne), Alabama ('79 Sugar Bowl), Miami (acting like assholes before the Fiesta Bowl, losing to Nebraska in the '95 Orange Bowl), Oklahoma ('86 Orange Bowl), and Pitt (just because.  Right now even Notre Dame ain't worth
hating.

by Ab4PSU on Nov 15, 2007 6:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't prove it...
but till the day I die I will always think Miami laid down and died just to stick it to Penn State in the 1994/1995 Orange Bowl.  That was the most gutless performance I ever saw in my entire life, and they were playing at home!

I never got into hating Nebraska over the 94 season because any real Nebraska fan will admit the title should have been split.  The real blame goes to Miami for mailing in the second half of that game.

For the Glory National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994,

by jesse. on Nov 15, 2007 11:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

1994
I don't think Miami purposely mailed it in just to stick it to Penn State.  If you remember that game, Warren Sapp and the rest of the Miami thugs (Is it still appropriate to call Miami "thugs" in light of our current legal woes?) wasted probably half a quarter's worth of energy dancing and talking shit every time they made a play in the first half, and then they ran out of gas in the fourth quarter.  If they would have saved some of that energy (again, much like our current team liking to fight and intimidate the student body, then playing like cowards against Michigan and Ohio State)for the fourth quarter, Miami should have won.  No, I still hate Nebraska because that was a gift to dear old Dr. Tom Osborne.  

by Ab4PSU on Nov 17, 2007 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hear me out
I think Minnesota is the rivalry that may have caught on if they did not keep taking it off the schedule.  

Minnesota was Penn State's first Big Ten game, and for the first six years we were in the league the Governor's Victory Bell was lag-bolted to the hood of Joe Paterno's car.  Then they won it in absolutely horrible loss for Penn State, and danced around Beaver Stadium with the trophy.

For like five years afterwards we could not beat them, and every time the won they made sure to take their picture at midfield after every win.

Then in 2005 we crushed them, the whole student section was out for blood.  Everybody remembers the Ohio State game in 2005, but forgets what a huge game Minnesota was for us that year, Penn State was not ranked going in, and then Michal Robinson almost killed that guy by running him over instead of going out of bounds.  It's like the two 1999 game and the 2005 game book-ended the "dark times".  Then last year PSU won on that bullshit Pass Interference call.

For the Glory National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994,

by jesse. on Nov 16, 2007 9:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely
I still want to punish Minny for what they did. DEATH TO THE GOPHERS!

by MarkoMancuso on Nov 16, 2007 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too
I was a senior, it was homecoming, and I had Bob Dylan tickets that night.  It totally ruined what was set up to be a really great day.
For the Glory National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994,

by jesse. on Nov 16, 2007 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pass Interference
You're right, Jesse, that was a bullshit call.  However, ever since we've joined the Big Ten, the officials have been rooking us.  By my estimation, we need to be handed another 6 games by officiating errors just to make it even.  Can you believe the Big Ten wants to suspend/fire some officials because of mistakes during our game with Purdue?  The Big Ten sure as hell never suspended, let alone fired, any officials for the f$*^ings we've gotten over the years.  I'll be honest with you, I don't like the Big Ten, and I don't think they really like us, either.  I would love to see us pull out and join the Big East.

by Ab4PSU on Nov 17, 2007 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JoePa sucks!
Just wanted to remind you Matt, PSU lost yesterday 35-31 to Michigan State after blowing a 24-7 lead. Have a great day!

Penn State babies are so ugly, their incubators are tinted.

by JP7 on Nov 18, 2007 10:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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