Alamo Bowl Open Thread
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| Penn State 8-4 | Texas A&M 7-5 | |
My internet connection is coming and going so I'm going to post the open thread now. As far as I know the game is on ESPN at 8 PM unless the NFL decides to broadcast the Patriots-Giants game on there too. This will probably be the lowest rated Penn State bowl game ever. It will be interesting to see if it hurts us in future bowl selections. Hopefully not.
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Ugh
I don't think
1995 Rose Bowl
By the way....Oregon couldn't run on that Defense, but they threw for almost 300 yards in the first half.
Wish I had...
by Adam Bittner on Dec 29, 2007 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Neuheisel
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3172713
I'm fairly optimistic
As for ratings, don't bowls also consider how well the fan base travels? If so that's a huge plus for Penn St.
hey
Not that I have anything against you, nor do I hate Joepa, but the Aggies are in the Big 12 and I have a nephew there (although he's no longer a cadet).
Should be interesting... Texas A&M is so sporadic, you don't know whether you're in for an ass-kicking, or a team that won't even bother to show up. Maybe you'll get both, the Aggies will show up for the second and fourth quarters or maybe for 10 minutes of the whole game.
If their running game gets going - if McGhee (qb) can run his offense, the Aggies will score some points.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 7:45 PM EST reply actions
interesting
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 8:12 PM EST reply actions
Joe knows bowl games?
I Can Honestly Say.........
Same here
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
got
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 8:19 PM EST reply actions
Generous
There is some real animosity.
Unreal.
Uurghqw
NUrghsf
KICK. BALL. THRU. POSTS.
URGH
Oh Well
ugh
Kevin Kelly is horrible, always misses big kicks
As soon as
Got a name for the secondary
yeah
ick.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 8:32 PM EST reply actions
Hmmm
UGHH!
Ahem
hey
A&M is sporadic. There's a reason they've lost five games. They have damned good athletes, but they have the ability to start doing stupid things, too.
Although maybe those have stopped with Dennis Franchione being fired.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Wow
Congrats! You just described PSU football!!!!
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
don't take
I know you've had great ones, but geez, these Texas schools have more athletes than most of the nation put together.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
It aint rude
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
YAY!!!!
Oh, heres Morelli again. Sigh
Its Amazing.......
no flag
ESPN isn't showing any replays on these damned penalties. They're showing crowd shots, or shots of some guy who did or didn't touch a live football, or talking out their ass.
This production sucks eggs.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 8:53 PM EST reply actions
Argh
They need to
wow
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 8:56 PM EST reply actions
Finally
What kind of BS call is that?!
nice
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:02 PM EST reply actions
looked to
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:03 PM EST reply actions
It'll suck if they do
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
So I Failed
So i'm watching the online updates. I am so sad....
whats the over/under for kinlaws yrds this game?
yes
Should have been overturned... but they probably don't have that good equipment. :)
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
There was a review
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
huge play...
by GLORYOFOLDSTATE on Dec 29, 2007 9:09 PM EST reply actions
so has the crowd
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hey!
They owned the first quarter, you'll own the second.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
All your footballs are belong to Mo Evans and AJ
Clark........
Who was that guy?
HAH!
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
WooT!!!
(the timing of this post will tell you how delayed the espn and cbs updates are on their websites.)
hell yeah!
We have the momentum and the eye of the tiger!
by GLORYOFOLDSTATE on Dec 29, 2007 9:15 PM EST reply actions
wow
What conference are these refs from?
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:22 PM EST reply actions
A&M
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:25 PM EST reply actions
or not
i'll get another beer.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
4:07
flag again, for pass interference even though the ball sailed over the receivers head by a long way.
PSU at their 30
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:32 PM EST reply actions
Jay has to have some pride.
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
deflected pass???
Why did we call a TO after a first down?
did #14 mismanage the play clock? or was the play late getting in?
Giants scored
Manning is as bad as Morelli at times
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Aye
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Bring on the Clark era.
46
quarterback keeper picks up the first. PSU at around the 9.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:42 PM EST reply actions
sorry
these officials SUCK.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:43 PM EST reply actions
incomplete
last timeout, 27 secs to half.
3rd and goal, around the six.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:46 PM EST reply actions
incomplete
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 9:47 PM EST reply actions
DANG IT!
What happened?
You should be happy
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
If he costs us this game
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Sigh
I haven't checked in since the last game. Where to begin? I'll keep it short.
Morelli--graduate already. Missed receivers, tunnel vision ignoring wide-open receivers, etc. How many times have I yelled at the field or television over the last two seasons?
PSU in general--shake off the cobwebs and play tough. A&M has everything to play for--a new coach, a new beginning, etc. next season. PSU has a bit less to play for, unless Joe/the powers that be play Clark and/or Devlin a bit more. Sure, next season looks bright--but so did this season. I'll believe it when they've won 'em all.
And--a Cornhusker poster here? I thought we chased you folks away in 2002. ;-)
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 9:54 PM EST reply actions
Oh yeah....
Hall/Paterno/powers that be--when something works, use it. Don't have Kinlaw run down A&M's throats for a 2nd and short, then go to two short passes for the 1st down. Penn State football is smashmouth football. Jam it down their throats.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Not hating....
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 9:58 PM EST reply actions
dipPitt
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
Whatever though. I want to see PSU win this, but I also would not be hurt if they lose. This year's team is not "lovable," and at times was not tolerable. I'm ready for Morelli to shift from QB to "legacy." And by legacy, I mean simply we speak of him in the past tense.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 29, 2007 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
not
the suckage was extremely high during that game.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Good News!!!
Big Thanks to everyone that helped me get throw the first half.
Clock Mdmt
i'm getting a beer right now!
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.....
oops......got the ball back. Maybe now Morelli can hit the Nose Tackle in stride.
dumb int
be interesting to see how much the Ags throw the ball in the second half.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 10:28 PM EST reply actions
pull morelli
Checking In
As has been said above, what was with Morelli's almost pick-six throwing it into the facemask of the L lineman?
And then double coverage INT?
Morelli--please. Just go away. Maybe if I leave a note on your car. I don't know if your linemen will rally around you....
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:32 PM EST reply actions
Awful Announcing
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:34 PM EST reply actions
now i have to listen to red sox crap
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 10:37 PM EST reply actions
At least....
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Digital Cable
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Run The Ball.........
Pryor
I know I've said it before, but how I miss Michael Robinson. Sure, some his throws were Morelli-esque, but he had the legs and leadership that Morelli simply does not. Defenses salivate for Morelli. Defenses lost sleep because of Robinson.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:45 PM EST reply actions
Pats take the Lead
I can't stand the aura currently emanating from New England, what with the Sox, Patriots and possibly the Celtics this year. Add the fact that Brady is a Wolverine, and I don't know if I'd shed a tear if a glacier slid down from Canada and covered that portion of the country. :)
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:51 PM EST reply actions
it'll only be good
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Clark QB, Morelli WR
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:54 PM EST reply actions
This isn't true
#14 useful if you lateral to him then he throws, but who would that fool? NO ONE, get that idiot out of the game.
what's the deal w/ kinlaw?
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Royster!
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:56 PM EST reply actions
LOL
'[COUGH/HACK]."
Ironically, this is his go-to response at press conferences, family meals, and church calls for "amen!"
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I fully understand the slant, BUT...
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:12 PM EST reply actions
Random Thoughts
I wonder if the tire was from an off-road dump truck.
I wonder how many neighbors' windows Mr. Morelli had to pay to replace.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:17 PM EST reply actions
pizza man?
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 11:18 PM EST reply actions
shit
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 11:21 PM EST reply actions
Time...
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:24 PM EST reply actions
As a whole,
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
isn't that the way it always is?
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
4th
They have Lane.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 11:28 PM EST reply actions
dumb call
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 11:29 PM EST reply actions
Agreed
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
they
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 11:36 PM EST reply actions
Morelli
There's a missed first down.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:37 PM EST reply actions
gag
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 11:37 PM EST reply actions
and
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
If the crew was a Big 10 crew,
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
The Killer Instinct
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
why does the band
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 11:41 PM EST reply actions
drunks
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Blame Michigan State
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
the
They have a history of giving up on games.
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 11:48 PM EST reply actions
I am soooooo happy
I'm also winning $50 off a friend
by Jen on Dec 29, 2007 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
congrats
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by cornnation @ Black Shoe Diaries on Dec 29, 2007 11:51 PM EST reply actions
Excuse the pun, but...
At least it was a semi-nail-biter.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 29, 2007 11:53 PM EST reply actions
Congrats
Good Win
Man the officiating sucked. Just terribly inconsistent in calling penalties and asking for reviews. Does Jeremy Boone have to be decapitated before they throw the flag?
Good bye Anthony Morelli. Good riddance. Have fun at the senior bowl. It's probably the last organized football game you'll ever play with twenty-two guys on the field.
Kinlaw = underappreciated
Royster = awesome
Defense = meh
Lots of work to do between now and September
Yep
I'm off to bed. Happy New Year!
by MarkoMancuso on Dec 30, 2007 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Dick Anderson
Nope...
Was sitting in end zone seats behind the Blue Band, all the way in the back row of the first level. The A&M crowd was large but not really as vocal as the PSU crowd. Maybe it's just my impression from where I was sitting, but the A&M crowd didn't seem all that loud.
The Evan Royster TD looked like it was in slow motion... looking forward to three more years of him. Also looking forward to a couple years of Darryl Clark at QB. Would have been nice to see him throw it around. It's a good thing A&M couldn't really stop Clark when Morelli lined up at WR... it's really amazing when an opponent doesn't see that coming.
Boone wasn't roughed on either kick, he did a nice job of flopping. He wasn't even touched on the first one.
they were PLENTY loud
by PSUinTN on Dec 30, 2007 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Rodney Kinlaw
by Phishead on Dec 30, 2007 5:57 PM EST reply actions
Amazing...........
Why do you roll your eyes?
If you are, then your just looking for things to rip Joe on. I'm sorry, as far as backs go, Joe has been very good in choosing his guy the last few years. He gave Scott his chance and he blew it (and the Michigan game) but to his credit, when he saw Scott was sucking, he immediately started splitting time, and eventually wound up off the team.
But to the oringinal question, yes, I think he should be drafted, perhaps by a certain Pennsylvania team that lacks real running back depth when their M.O. is "smashmouth football". Come to think of it, ol' 26 would look pretty good about now...
by Adam Bittner on Dec 30, 2007 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously.........
Larry Johnson just suddenly comes out of nowhere and runs for 2000 yards and into Heisman contention. Same for Robinson. I played football in high school for a guy like Paterno in that he would ALWAYS give the Sr. the nod. Even over the really promising underclassman. And we were worse because of it.
You can't talk about how importannt loyalty is to Paterno out one side of your mouth and then act like that same "quality" couldn't possibly be why certain people are sitting the bench when they shouldn't. Guys his age value things tha a lot of people half his age do not. There is a reason why we have the saying "Loyal to a fault.". I'll gurantee you this....with literally no game experience, Clark will come out next year and make people wonder what the f++k Paterno and the staff were thinking this year by playing Morelli.
Weeellll,
#1 I have a lot of problems with the concept of getting the underclassmen in there just to build for next season. Whatever you think of Morelli, he paid his dues, and I feel he was the best quarterback on the team this year. He deserved to play his Senior year. You don't bench a captain just because you aren't going to a BCS Bowl game. Thats not loyalty to a fault, that just not being a total sellout. Those 6 weeks of additional practice for the bowl game did much more for the development of Clark and Devlin than some snaps against MSU and Temple could have done.
The people here calling for Clark are the same ones that called for Morelli over Robinson, Robinson over Mills, etc. Its a never ending cycle that seems satisfied only by throwing a true freshman in at QB. Ask Pitt and Notre Dame how that works.
I'm sorry if i prefer 9-4 to 7-6. Maybe that makes me a bad PSU fan, but I'd rather have Clark and Devlin endure the growing pains in practice against on of the best defensive units in the country, rather than on the field against MSU.
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Curious.......
All I saw in that bowl game was Clark come in and bail out Morelli and then get promptly shown the sideline. Thats real loyalty.
I Can't
Could he have led the team down the field for the winning score at Indiana?
Could he have held on for the win against Purdue?
Could he have made that throw to Butler in the Alamo Bowl to grab the momentum?
I suppose we'll never know, but I, for one, am glad we won't. Morelli may have lost us a couple games this year (Ill. and Mich.), but unless your one of the greats, you're going to have bad days. He had them. Hes not a great QB, but I feel he was our best quarterback this season.
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
One More Thing........
Why do you think teams like Florida and OSU and Texas and USC are constanly in the running ? One has to do with talent for sure, but they play youth early and often. Even in practice, I don't think Clark or Devlin are getting the looks they need to come out and play.
I tend to agree here.
If, on the other hand, Morelli's position is simply due to "putting time in," then, again, this is frightening (though not at all a surprise as this has been Joe's modus operandi for a long time).
"Putting time in" is fine for middle school athletics. It's unacceptable for college athletics. Shoot--in most high schools, if you are not the best, your butt gets intimate with the pine.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 31, 2007 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
actually
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
My Point...
Believe it or not, winning the bowl game is important. That might be a mind blowing concept to some of you, I know, but its true.
Whats more upsetting is that Clark WAS given a lot of playing time in key situations, and people still aren't satisfied.
To say Clark and Devlin aren't getting the looks they need from the coaches is preposterous. Do you really think they, the future of the program, stand off to the side during practice and toss balls to eachother while no one is looking? No way. read some of what Joe says about them. He knows what he has.
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I Am Not Here.........
Did you notice in the game the other night that when Texas A&M opened it up they got people open and when we tried something non-traditional it either blew up or went nowhere ?
You HAVE to let your best athletes learn in real time. You can't let them practice. If you think Clark and Devlin are getting better practicing a few days a week you have never played football.
Urban Meyer has already said that Cam Newton is going to get a lot of playing time next year and he has a Heisman Trophy Winner returning for cryin' out loud. What exactly did we gain by not seeing Clark in the half assed games we blew people out in this year ? Its not like Morelli didn't deserve to get benched at points this season.
And yes.....I believe Clark would have more than made up for some mistakes with his legs. He was so clearly more athletic than a lot of the people in that game the other night it almost nauseated me to watch him bail Morelli out every time.
How about this........I'll meet you halfway....I could talk about this all night, but what is your answer to this.........do you think it took some offensive genius to line Clark up in the gun and have him run the ball with Morelli split out left ? The answer to that would be no. So how do you explain that not being there all year ? It doesn't matter if the other team knows its coming if you have the athlete to execute it......see Tim Tebow last year at UF for proof.
Hey
That said, I still feel our best option this season was Morelli. Hes been throwing lasers all year, and yes, I realize sometimes to the other team, but for the most part, hes been good at getting the ball to the receivers. The statistics prove it. As I said before, hes a good college QB, but not a great one. I;m not sure Clark is a great one yet.
Finally, lets stop comparing ourselves to Florida, USC, and Texas. We aren't. We Are Penn State. We've had success doing it JoePa's way. 3 years ago, we went into the season with an option quarterback with little experience following an underacheiving starter the year before. We went 11-1. Now, we've got a battle hardened receiving core, a stout offensive line, and a defense with a lot of promise. I'm hopeful, and I'm not going to dwell on the snaps Clark didn't get this season. I'm pumped for Coastal Carolina, and you should be too.
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Not the Game
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Furthur
One more thing. This years offense was built around Anthony Morelli. I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of changes to the entire offense that will be implemented for Clark, providing he passes his classes and wins the starting job, but I don't know how much Clark could have learned by jumping in and running the dumbed down Morelli offense in the middle of the season just for the hell of it.
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
kinlaw
Looking forward to seeing #22 for a few years, also we got Green and 2 freshman studs coming in. Also interested to see how the Clark / Devlin thing works out, not sure if clark can throw the ball yet or can pass his classes on consistant basis.
Pitt fans
Morelli definitely isnt who people thought he would be, but for God's sake, he could have done better for Pitt than friggen Pat Bostick. If any Pitt fan can look you in the eye and say they're glad Morelli went to Penn State, laugh in their face.
if a PITT fan says anything to you at all ...
by PSUinTN on Dec 30, 2007 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Good call
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
The reality of the situation is
Texas A&M Pick 1
God bless the internet.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 31, 2007 11:34 AM EST reply actions
Few thoughts from the Alamo Bowl....
1. San Antonio is a great town. The Alamo and the Riverwalk are must sees.
2. The AlamoDome is not impressive. It was a pain to get over there and then to get out of the garage downtown. It just isn't right watching football indoors. At least they served beer.
3. The A&M Band was awesome. The drills that they pulled off were beyond belief. I saw a youtube post of the band, but the quality sucked.
4. PSU fans, outnumbered by about 10-1 were loud and supportive. I had tickets on the 45, PSU sideline, and you could tell that PSU was there. My seats were around some older PSU alums and I was asked to sit down a few times, but we still had a good time.
5. A&M Fans were fun and loyal to that program almost to a fault. They understand that they will not win the Big 12 or a NC, so going to this level bowl is a reward. Its funny, almost every A&M fan asked what "Nittany" was, and most of them were hoping for a close game.
6. The first time Clark was in at QB, AM was on the bench, A&M was able to put an extra LB in the game to stop the run (out of the first time-out). Leaving AM on the field kept the D honest opened up the middle. I was hoping to see a throw downfield at some point to really open things up for him.
7. Tom Bradley looked VERY uncomfortable pacing the sidelines after the 4th qtr punt. I can't figure out what was bugging him, even if we punted, the D would only have to stop a Hail Mary....It was like something else was wrong. Left me with a bad feeling.....
8. Sean Lee is a stud. He is every bit the LB that Conner is. They look like twins reacting to the ball on play-fakes and draws....
9. How did A&M not give the ball to #11 on the 4th and 1 play? No doubt he would have scored....in fact I don't think he was even in the game....
by jbolt2005 on Dec 31, 2007 5:07 PM EST reply actions
Florida State-Kentucky
Anyone see Bowden complain about the penalty on his guy for flipping into the endzone? And his claim that no one gets penalized for it except for his guy? And I thought Joe was disconnected with reality.
And Florida State still has a team of thugs. When I was at the Orange Bowl, I couldn't get over what jerks they were. Against Kentucky, they're as bad. Bowden may have the wins, but his team is no more classy than the University of Miami.
by RoaringSprings on Dec 31, 2007 6:05 PM EST reply actions
Flipping In The End Zone.......
Give Flutie credit the other night for voicing his displeasure with that kind of nonsense.
I'm watching it
Remember Jay Alford did it last year. He got the flag, and you didn't see Joe crying it wasn't fair. The only person crying was Alford after Joe chewed his ass out on the sideline.
jay alford
by PSU86 on Dec 31, 2007 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Indiana - Okla. State
Well
by Adam Bittner on Dec 31, 2007 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Trust Me......
Indiana.........
Hmmm.....
Chick-Fil-A Plush
by RoaringSprings on Dec 31, 2007 7:45 PM EST reply actions
1:25 left in Florida State-Kentucky -- Injury
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