Charges Dropped Against Baker and Bowman
by BSD on Dec 5, 2007 10:57 PM EST
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Both players were bound over for trial on the misdemeanor counts of simple assault and disorderly conduct and summary counts of harassment and stalking.
The charges were filed after a fight that occurred on campus on Oct. 7.
No date was set for trial.
The district attorney's office plans to look into refiling the felony charge against the two.
Wait, so chargers were dropped by the court, but the DA is considering refiling charges? I knew a bunch of people who got into fights all the time in college, and I can't recall any of them facing felony charges for it. Let alone having felony charges dropped and refiled by the DA. It sure seems to me the people in the DA's office have it out for Penn State football players.
No word yet on what this means for Baker and Bowman's status for the bowl game.
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Ridiculous
At least
Baker & Bowman Out
The last thing we need is trouble down by the Riverwalk, to sully the off season.
This isn't a game that anyone on the team will likely care about winning. It's evident they didn't care about beating Michigan State, why should they care about beating some mediocre Big 12 team?
The coaches need to set the tone for 2008 and leave the clowns at home until they learn to act like Penn State football players and not like thugs.
You guys are delusional homer fools
You want to ignore this and let their acts bring shame, go ahead, but don't pretend you're being smart by doing so. If anything, the football players have substantial legal advantages that regular students don't have.
Were there is news, there are idiots...
I think Mike shares the same opinion as a local judge, would you mind going on the record and calling a judge someone pretending to be smart?
by carolinaeasy on Dec 6, 2007 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
yes i didn't spell where correctly, it has been a
by carolinaeasy on Dec 6, 2007 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Delusional?
Where there is smoke there is fire? Here is some smoke for you; how about having in excess of thirty charges over the course of a year dropped by a Judge without trial. That means he decided that what the D.A.'s accusations do not even meet the legal elements of a crime? Look up prima facia on the internet. That's not smoke, but rather definitive proof of shitty lawyering and a hick DA deciding he wants to get his face on TV so he charges college kids with crimes he has no hope of proving in Court. That is unethical, plain and simple. No delusion about it.
As for advantages the players have that others don't. What advantage is that, a lawyer? The University didn't hire Johnny Cochran for them, Joseph Amendola and Karen Muir are local attorneys that anybody can hire.
Smoke, fire, etc
So what?
The facts are what they are, every single player that has been charged with a crime this year, including Austin Scott, has had the most serious charges against them dismissed at a Preliminary Hearing.
It is either overreaching or stupidity, you pick which one, and I'll go with it.
Cluelessness
It's also possible the players were all innocent little lambs and that a bunch of small-town yokels are out to get them. But do you really believe that? Really? After the posse-gathering apartment beatdown (which nobody is disputing happened, remember, just which players did exactly what - meaning the defense attorneys are doing their jobs well).
State College Justice
Second, State College may be a small media market, but these stories have all been picked up nationally by both Sports Illustrated and ESPN and they are being reported in every newspaper in the state, I have not checked the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today, but the fact that these charges were dropped will definitely be printed by tomorrow.
Next, I don't recall ever saying the players were innocent little lambs, or even innocent. I think they got into a fight, and I don't know (and you don't know) who started it, why, or what really happened. To blindly assume guilt is just as foolish as to blindly assume innocence, although the latter is the presumption afforded to the accused in a crime.
What I am doing lambasting a professional attorney (again not yokels, yokel, singular), who has taken an oath to be impartial and fair, who repeatedly charges people with crimes that he can't prove. I find that conduct distasteful, and I would argue vehemently against with respect to any person, regardless of whether or not they played football for Penn State.
Bottom line here...
Great post jesse, this guy needs someone to stand up to his onesided point of view.
You guys are enablers, pure and simple.
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you guys? Are prosecutors only supposed to make charges when they're 100.000% sure they can win a conviction? Does RUTS know this?
Pure and Simple
The guys above have written thoughtful, insightful posts regarding the judge and DA, and all you can EVER reply with is "the sky is falling!!"
Give it a rest!!
NO ONE condones what some of these kids ALLEGEDLY did...where are any of us saying that? However, if they are found to be guilty of nothing more than bad judgement, why continue to harp on it?
You're the only one here who sees parallels between PSU and Thug U (Miami), so maybe it's time to stop acting like your opinions are more righteous than everyone else's and step down off your high horse. It's getting old.
Sorry for devaluing your degree, btw.
Tone it down
Consider this your first warning.
by BSD on Dec 6, 2007 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
College athletes getting into fights
Ignoring Nothing
The commentary above dealt with the DA, who I feel is being overly cruel to these kids. Some kids got into a shoving match at the Hub. One guy, who many witnesses say started the whole thing, got a bloody nose. Is that worth felony charges? And after the judge throws out the felony charges the DA says they are going to consider refiling them? Doesn't that seem like a waste of the court's time? It seems to me the DA has it in for the football players. Maybe the local television stations of Centre County seem like small potatoes to you, but getting his face on those crappy channels is what gets him re-elected. And the football players seem too dumb to stay out of trouble and give him bait to chew on.
by BSD on Dec 6, 2007 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
You are absolutely right, Mike,
Baker WILL NOT BE ATTENDING
Also, according to the report, there were several witnesses who flat out said that the alledged victim in this attack actually started it! In which case the charges will likely be dropped by all parties.
This thing is far from over, but as for now Baker will NOT be attending the bowl game.
Just a heads up,
Dan Connor
LINEBACK U, LINEBACKER U, LINEBACKER U!!!!
Dorsey had 2 trophies already and 33 is a bit work of the hype machine, the right man won it baby!!!!
Ahem
What
yea
Yep
I see now
by BSD on Dec 6, 2007 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
I
33 better not win that tomm...
Baker could get expelled
by Jen on Dec 7, 2007 7:57 PM EST reply actions
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