Final Blogpoll Ballot

by BSD on Jan 9, 2008 9:25 AM EST in Football

We have one last formality before we officially close out the 2007 football season. Brian from MGoBlog has asked us to put together one final blogpoll. So here is the ballot I intend to submit. I put about five minutes of thought into it so I'm open to the fact there are probably mistakes in there. Final ballots are due by noon on Thursday so I have time to make changes. Tell me what you think.

**BSD Final Blogpoll Ballot**
Rank	Team
1	LSU
2	West Virginia
3	Southern Cal
4	Georgia
5	Missouri
6	Ohio State
7	Kansas
8	Oklahoma
9	Virginia Tech
10	Boston College
11	Tennessee
12	Texas
13	Arizona State
14	Auburn
15	Michigan
16	Florida
17	Oregon
18	Clemson
19	Illinois
20	Texas Tech
21	Wisconsin
22	Cincinnati
23	Brigham Young
24	Hawaii
25	Penn State

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SC, Georgia

both should be bumped up 1 spot, thus 2 and 3 for them. WV should be 4

"all i can do is be me, whoever that is"-Bob Dylan

by Phishead on Jan 9, 2008 9:34 AM EST reply actions

WV

That's the conventional wisdom if you look at the AP and Coaches Polls. But I think their blowout win over Oklahoma was much more impressive than USC's win over Illinois or Georgia's win over Hawaii.

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries

Hail to the Lion!

by BSD on Jan 9, 2008 9:36 AM EST up reply actions

Georgia, Mizzou, Kansas

I would argue that they all deserve to be higher than teams like WVU or USC.

Final ballots are a crapshoot, and I think ppl tend to forget about how this same WVU team lost to Pitt, just as USC lost to Stanford. Meanwhile, teams like Georgia, Mizzou, Kansas and OSU have the same amount of losses (1 less, in the case of KU)...but to good teams. That said, I don't envy you trying to do this.

Lastly, and I feel as though I might be the only one who thinks this, but...what has Clemson done to be in the Top 25? Beat a ranked team at the end of the season? Nope. Play in a good conference? Nope. Beat a "good" team in said conference? Nope. I feel as though they're one of the most overrated teams in the country, but ppl kinda just saw them in the rankings, and therefore left 'em there. I dunno, just my opinion.

by Cpiritual27 on Jan 9, 2008 9:42 AM EST reply actions

Clemson

Classice example of the flaw in early season polls. They beat Florida State good early on and everyone jumped on them. Once you're in you just have to keep winning no matter who it is. Win and you hold serve or move up as other teams lose. When you lose you just drop a few spots.

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries

Hail to the Lion!

by BSD on Jan 9, 2008 9:47 AM EST up reply actions

The one problem I have is with ranking Wisconsin..

ahead of PSU. I understand we are all homers here, but we flat out BEAT them. Similar to the way OSU beat up on us. I don't think they are a better team.

by carolinaeasy on Jan 9, 2008 10:07 AM EST reply actions

Why Not Kansas?

You know, why not Kansas? They went 12-1, played in the Big XII, and won the Orange Bowl against Virginia Tech. To me, if Texas or Oklahoma could say the same thing everybody would be jumping to put them in the championship picture.

Just for kicks I named Kansas MY national champion.

On a more serious note though, I agree with PSU should be above Wisconsin, but the problem is then Wisconsin should be above Michigan, and it's just an endless cycle, right? I'm not all excited about Clemson either.

Kevin McGuire

by kevinrmcguire on Jan 9, 2008 10:58 AM EST reply actions

Here's why not

Kansas has exactly one win over a good team. After the VT win, what's their next best? Either Oklahoma State or Texas A&M, both teams that are now 7-6. They did not play Oklahoma, Texas, or Texas Tech (the three best teams in the South) this season, which makes their claim to having played a Big XII schedule technically true but horribly, horribly misleading.

Had they played and beaten any one of those teams (or possibly even if they had beaten Missouri and then lost to OU in the Big XII title game before beating VT), I might consider it. But their strength of schedule is a joke. Not a Hawaii-level joke, but a joke nonetheless.

by SpartanDan on Jan 9, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions

Clemson

Is being projected as a top 10 team for next season.

by carolinaeasy on Jan 9, 2008 11:03 AM EST reply actions

Not that I agree with that...

I understand that living near Clemson will have people think I am a tigers apologist. Just throwing that info out there.

by carolinaeasy on Jan 9, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions

everyone is overrated

thats how i've felt all year, every time i try to actually put a poll together, i end up thinking everyone is too high.

But for real:
-celmson is in fact too high.
-so is hawaii (in the AP, not in your poll Mike)
-is that oregon with or without Dixon? With him they should be higher, without him they should be lower (a lot lower).
-i always do this b/c i'm a homer, but there is little question we could beat #24 hawaii, #23 byu and #22 cinci, we already smoked #21 wiscy (but there is the um-wisc-psu thing). Texas Tech is where i start to question PSU.

http://thebigeleventh.blogspot.com/

by Big 11th on Jan 9, 2008 11:17 AM EST reply actions

That is a great point...

I think PSU should win a game against #s 21-24 nine out of ten times. The teams in the 1-20 spots we would have a dogfight, and in a lot of cases get flat out beat.

The second point you bring up is the Wis-UM-PSU thing. We flat out BEAT the badgers 38-7 at home. I think we can all agree that was a schellacking. We had already lost to Michigan 14-9 on the road. We all know the turnover story but bottom line, we lost by 5 on the road to Michigan. Wisconsin turned around and beat Michigan at home by 16.

If you look at the other loses for both teams they are about even. Our big lose to Michigan St was on the road, Wisconsin won at home by 3.
The Ohio State scores are nearly identical to one another. Bottom line IMHO is when we got on the field together we SHELLACKED them. I don't think Wisconsin can say that about Michigan.

by carolinaeasy on Jan 9, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions

How About This One...........

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/texgator2006/poster52952393.jpg

As much as this pains me, its funny.

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Jan 9, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions

ineptitude

It would be more funny if they quit beating us, but it is good

by PSU86 on Jan 9, 2008 2:11 PM EST up reply actions

My top 25...not that you care

1 Georgia
2 LSU
3 Missouri
4 Kansas
5 Ohio State
6 USC
7 West Virginia
8 Oklahoma
9 Virginia Tech
10 Boston College
11 Tennessee
12 Texas
13 Michigan
14 Auburn
15 Arizona State
16 Florida
17 Oregon
18 Clemson
19 Illinois
20 Texas Tech
21 Penn State
22 Cincinnati
23 Brigham Young
24 Kentucky
25 Wisconsin

by psu1313 on Jan 9, 2008 4:19 PM EST reply actions

PSUs ranking

I think PSU should come in at 23 or 22. I looked at the entire list and tried to figure out how many of those teams we would beat on a neutral setting, Hawaii, Wisconsin and Cincinnati all seem beatable (Wisconsin again).

by PSUinTN on Jan 9, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions

Poll

Polls are always a best guess, but when PSU has beaten Wisconsin by 30, how can PSU not be ranked ahead of them. Also, I believe PSU is a favorite against Cincinnati, Brigham Young and Hawaii, even with Morelli. Glad to see Michigan ahead of Florida - Hey, they beat them. And I would drop Oklahoma farther, as I still don't believe WVU is a top 5 team. Rather I think they played there best game and OU was off theirs and over-rated at that. The teams WVU lost to were poor...

by GregInPitt on Jan 9, 2008 5:55 PM EST reply actions

top 25 debate

I think the question is how far can you drop Wisconsin for losing a tough game to Tennessee, and how far can you move Penn State up for a decent but pretty uninspired win against a team that wound up with six losses?

Wisconsin is ranked higher on the basis of beating Michigan, and finishing their season stronger than us (up until the bowl game).

I wouldn't put Penn State in as a strong favorite over either BYU or Hawaii, and who cares anyway; they went 11-2 and 12-1 respectively. That entitles them to be ranked higher than Penn State.

Finally, what's the difference between 23 and 25 anyway? I mean, who really cares?

For the Glory National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994,

by jesse. on Jan 10, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions