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  • A Vegas perspective of Penn State's chances at an undefeated regular season.
  • It's a Black Out! Purdue is encouraging students to wear black shirts and selling the official Black Out t-shirt online, with $2 from each sale going to the United Way.
  • Penn State's 5-0 start....ironic? (Hint: No.)
  • The conference baseball teams announce the formation of the Big Ten-Big East Challenge. Penn State will face St. John's and Seton Hall. All of the games will be played in Florida.
  • The Rivalry, Esq. had a good write up on "Clark in HD".  Also: remembering Brad Banks.
  • The Penn State Bars post has been updated here. About a half dozen new locations added. Don't forget to email me (thebigeleventh at gmail dot com) a quick write up about your recent visit to the local Penn State bar, format located at the bottom of the linked post.

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Blackout at a noon game?

That’s just retarded.

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 1, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

They will be dressed for their own

funeral!

I hate how everyone is doing the __________out now it just really cheapens something that means alot to PSU.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Oct 1, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

though I’m not so annoyed at all the teams doing ______outs, but at least reserve it for some sort of meaningful game. I mean I suppose having a top 10 team come into your stadium is “meaningful”, but in all honesty does Purdue care about this game more than any other game?

Ooooh, a noon, regional broadcast game against a top 10 team that we have no significant rivalry with, and which won’t really change the direction of our season, win or lose…I know, let’s wear all black!!!

by The JuggerNitt on Oct 1, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will also be hosting a blackout on Saturday....

I am going to drink a beer for each TD Penn State scores. When it’s 98-0 and I am moving on to beer #15….BAM – blackout!

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 1, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

hahaha

lets all get blackout!

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Oct 1, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think...

im going to have an “ass out” this weekend, everytime state scores, im going to drop trou in celebration. to combat the black out, im going to wear my “white out purdue” shirt, circa 2004

For the glory

by lionalum05 on Oct 1, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not like they can wait...

…for a Nationally Televised night game.

We should take it as a compliment, and as a warning. We’ve got the big target on our back now. Our guys have not had it in while. Need to stay focused.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Oct 1, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Focus

Requires a mantra. I know from experience at the game Sat night. I used these:

‘Do not fall off seat, do not fall off seat.’
‘Do not let your buddy touch those girls there, do not let your buddy touch those girls there.’
‘Leave the angry Illini fan alone, leave the angry illini fan alone’

Convivite Nudem!

by jtothep on Oct 1, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Blackout

We all know how well that worked out for Georgia.

by The JuggerNitt on Oct 1, 2008 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Ironic? Yeah, I really do think...

Nothing irritates me more now than the ever-changing statement that PSU hasn’t been challenged. First it was “their non-con schedule is cupcake”, then it was “they haven’t played a ranked opponent”, now it’s “they haven’t been tested on the road”. I don’t recall who, but one ESPN announcer stated that Penn State hasn’t played a game outside of Pennsylvania yet. I’m sure this is news to the people of Syracuse, New York.

Explain to me how this schedule:

Aug. 30 UT-Chattanooga W 57 – 2
Sept. 6 Cincinnati W 52 – 26
Sept. 13 @ Washington W 55 – 19
Sept. 27 Texas Christian W 35-10

is signficantly different from this schedule:

Aug. 30 – Coastal Carolina W 66-10
Sept. 06 – Oregon State W 45-14
Sept. 13 – @ Syracuse W 55-13
Sept. 20 – Temple W 45-3
Sept. 27 – Illinois W 38-24

For reference, the top one is Oklahoma, which hasn’t really received any flak about its schedule. Interestingly, both PSU and OU play pass-happy 2-2 teams on the road this week (Purdue and Baylor) prior to big games next week on the road (Wisconsin and Texas in Dallas)

by Cairo on Oct 1, 2008 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

It's significantly different because

The bottom schedule actually has 2 decent-to-good teams.

Advantage: PSU

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 1, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is all fallout..

from the Ohio State bed deffication during BCS championship games…The BigTen gets no respect, while the Big12 is seen as AWESOME!

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Oct 1, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ironic

That we are marked down for Ohio State shitting the bed in BCS games, yet Oklahoma is not punished for Oklahoma shitting the bed in BCS games.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Oct 1, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I LOL'd

still am, actually

I think my biggest objection to the whole “Big 10 sucks in OOC games” “Big 10 sucks in BCS games” and “Big 10 sucks in bowl games” is that PSU has actually won most of those categories…at least when we were supposed to.

The other objection is how OSU going to the Nat’l Championship game, PLUS another big 10 team going to the Rose Bowl shifts all of our match-ups UP a level, so now we have our #2 going against other conferences #1, our #3 going up against another conference #2, etc.

by The JuggerNitt on Oct 1, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Cairo

it is only natural for Oklahoma to be on top of the polls. Don’t you see? I mean it isn’t Oklahoma’s fault that they’re the best team in the country but haven’t played anyone yet. Those other teams just need to step up!

As for Penn State, I mean come on, it is ridiculous that they’ve only played giant-killer OrSU, and #22 Illinois. They should beef up their schedule a bit more.

In all honesty, though, PSU’s SOS has been pretty week so far, but is comparable to a few other top 10 teams.

According to Sagarin’s rankings (with SOS rank)
Alabama – 39
Oklahoma – 78
USC – 7
PSU -117
Texas -115
Boise State – 82
LSU – 114
BYU – 125
Georga – 29
Utah – 56

We are the higest ranked, worst SOS team on there so far

by The JuggerNitt on Oct 1, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

an objection

I’ve always had a problem with SOS averages….a cupcake is a cupcake. PSU is getting hammered for having some really bad teams, but if they were 80 or 180, it really doesn’t matter from a level of competition perspective.

by KevinHD on Oct 1, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sustained

you may present your first witness, counsel.

by The JuggerNitt on Oct 1, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Herbstreit, but. . .

He was the one who said PSU hasn’t played a game outside of PA yet. In fact, I believe his phrase was they haven’t played a game outside of Beaver Stadium yet. My best guess- Herbie sees Syracuse as a scrimmage.

by The IC Lion on Oct 1, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody but Pitt

see’s Syracuse as a scrimage.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Oct 1, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comparing Teams

Coastal Carolina vs UT-Chatt is a wash.

Washington vs Syracuse is a wash. (Unless you count Stoops getting relgiously screwed by the Pac10 refs.) These are two teams that should be decent but absolutely suck.

Cincinnatti vs Oregon State is a wash. Both teams have been decent the past 3 years and went to bowl games last year.

TCU vs Temple. TCU beat Oklahoma this decade and is something like 12-2 against the Big 12. Temple has never beaten JoePa and is a horrible program. Massive advantage TCU.

Illinois doesn’t count since its a conference game. Teams don’t choose conference games.

So Oklahoma has played a harder schedule.

And Penn State has not played anyone on the road. Its just facts. Syracuse is horrible. Reporters would not be doing their jobs if they did not discuss it. After Penn State beats Purdue this week all of the schedule discussion will end. Discussions of easy schedules always happen until conference play starts.

by DrDetroit on Oct 2, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vegas odds at going 12-0

Very nice link to Vegas’ take on a PSU 12-0 season. I tried something similar the other day in a fan post, without any real research or point spread analysis. Still came up with an 8.2% chance (compared to the 9.92% in the link)… Definitely doable, but will take some luck, especially on the road.

On a side note: Purdue’s blackout is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I speculate that the only effect it will have is to absorb sunlight, contributing to global warming…..great. Thanks a lot Purdue.

by jimbo2psu on Oct 1, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Suggestion for PSU Bar Post

Kev HD- Let me start by saying that I think that post is a really great idea, and has the opportunity to be huge. The problem is that if it gets much bigger its going to get increasingly harder to search for what you want. I’m not sure how much time/effort/HTMLing you want to put into this thing, but if you are in it for the long hall I think you could definitely win some type of college football blogging Nobel Peace Prize or something. Anyway, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has a similar thing for Steelers bars that has an interactive map and lists by state/country. When I first saw this post I thought “wow, if he can make one of those for PSU, I’d forever be in debt.” Here’s the site if you want any ideas.

http://www.post-gazette.com/steelernation/steelersbars.asp

Good luck on helping this thing along the rest of the way. I’ll be entering submissions as I uncover them!

by The IC Lion on Oct 1, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks for the suggestion

I was actually thinking the same thing right before I published, it’s getting very clustered. Thanks for the link, I like format a lot. I’m not really sure how to implement something like that into BSD…but I’m sure I could figure it out.

I’ll be working on that when I get some time and I’ll make sure to keep you all updated.

by KevinHD on Oct 1, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how easy it would be

But I’m sure somone could figure out.

Basically one of those “google earth” type maps, where you can overlay objects onto a google map. Perhaps something where the “popularity” of the bar makes it a bigger spot on the map. This would of course need either a lot of fan input, or some way of gauging the popularity of a place.

Still, I would LOVE to find a place within an hour-ish drive of East Lansing to watch Penn State games with a bunch of PSU people (probably not likely, though).

by The JuggerNitt on Oct 1, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOHHH, I just figured it out! I think I might have to make a map!

I figured out how to make a map on Google maps. I could add all the bars from the bar post so far, and then just add more as they come in.
And I could either copy and paste the description of the place from BSD, or add a link to the BSD description in Google maps.
Also, another benefit is that many bars already have user reviews on Google maps, so at least you’ll have some sort of idea what kind of place each bar is.
I’ll work on it and maybe send out a link for a preliminary run-through.

Hey Mike….got any room on the (nonexistant) payroll for one more staffer?

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 1, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It woulda been funnier

if he had slipped it to ‘ironical’

Now, the Ass Out suggestion by alum05? That would be ironical. And a good idea, to boot. Get it? ‘to boot’? How funny would an Ass Out game actually be? A hilarious PSU response to all the biters out there.

I once rocked an ape outfit for Halloween, replete with my bare ass exposed. Alas, there were only 5 of us trying to kick a keg, so I never got to take my show on the road. And this would be my chance to regain that glory. Maybe taking it on the road is the trick, like to Madison. They’d appreciate it up there, and might even join in. At least the band would.

Convivite Nudem!

by jtothep on Oct 1, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Fan-tastic

But the closest one is still 200 miles away…:( Road Trip?

by 3Yardout on Oct 1, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

On a completely different note . . .

because I didn’t know where else to post it. If you haven’t already done so . . . get your vote in!

http://bigtennetwork.com/sports/football/Jimmy-Johns.asp

DWill had a decent lead, but a little extra doesn’t hurt.

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Oct 2, 2008 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Post it as a "FanShot"

I will do it for you, in case you don’t read this, but will give credit where credit is due.

by The JuggerNitt on Oct 2, 2008 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

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