How to Shut Down PSU's Offense
I am a former college football player, I played at both the Division 1 and 2 levels. I now coach high school football in South Carolina. This is not in any way shape or form an "expert" opinion. This is simply MY opinion on what type of defense could shut down PSU's prolific attack this year. I have seen a lot of "pundits" and "experts" say that PSU will get owned in a big time matchup against an SEC, Big 12, or Pac10 school. Well listen to my opinion and see what schools fit this mold.
PSU loves to run the football, no matter what formation they come out in they want to see if they can run the football. To run they have four main threats: Running threat 1 Royster, most of his carries come between the tackles. To stop this you need to have a stout interior defensive line, some gap busting 300 pounders who can demand a double team, prefferably two of said DT so you need to be in a four man front. Running threat 2: Darryl Clark, the majority of his carries are on zone read plays and designed qb dives which presents a unique problem this guy can run inside or outside so to negate this you need either defensive ends who are great contain players, or outside linebackers who can cover alot of ground and who are great at READING plays, I.E. smart backers not guys who play out of position. Running threat 3 Green, this kid can run inside so your big boys should help there, but he is also a threat to the outside and has some jets...the same stuff that stops Clark should stop Green. Running threat 4, any of the wideouts, end arounds designed options, heck even trick plays...A smart stay at home defense with speed will help here.
Now lets say you come into the game and you have a front that can stop PSU's running attack, you still need to cover the secondary, and get pressure on Clark while keeping him contained to the pocket. To do this you have some options, you have big boys in at DT who are run stoppers and only have a bullrush move. They aren't going to flat beat someone on their passrush moves. Your defensive ends can't fly up field either unless it is an obvious passing situation, because of the running threat off the edge. So you need to bring someone from the second level. But by blitzing you open holes in your secondary and put people on an island out there. This is fine against an average recieving corp, or even against a team with a stand out wideout. But as we all know PSU has three GREAT recievers, and two good TEs, and a plethora of other receiving options (see that stats on how many different PSU players have caught a TD pass, I believe its around 10). And just when you think your getting enough passing pressure by blitzing, guess what creeps up? The PSU screen game that has been terrific all year. This offense just offers way too much balance for an opposing defense to sell out to one area of the game.
Here is the defense you would need.
a 4-3 with smart athletic linebackers who can blitz effectively and cover just as good. Defense Tackles who can command double teams, and defensive ends who are both disciplined and athletic. A secondary with run stopping safteys who are also ball hawks, and two to three shutdown corners. And enough subs to keep that defense fresh, or an offense that can controll the football.
How many defenses fit that description?
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I don't think
that Penn State’s defense is going to volunteer to play for any of our opponents, though.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 17, 2008 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our LB's
aren’t good enough.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So what you're saying is
maybe the New Englan Patriots could hold us to 21 points?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 17, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is so much fun
I hope everyone’s enjoying the ride.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 17, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am just saying that if PSU doesn't stop itself
that there arent many teams that can..it would take a great defense playing its best game to stop them. Now with multiple turnovers all bets are off..
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Best defense is a good offense?
You forgot about the notion that the best “defense” is a good offense. Eat up the ToP and keep our offense off the field so to limit our chances…this makes PSU have to play more efficiently to put up points. Purdue did a great job of this…limit our possessions, take away the run and tighten up in the red zone.
I think you need to have a ball control offense and when on defense you need to stop the run first, force us to pass and hope Clark is off. But as we saw against Wisky, Clark was off at times and still lit them up. Essentially, it’s a pick-your-poison.
by Screen Name 20 on Oct 17, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Check the last sentence I wrote about an offense that can control the ball...
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops
Missed that one, you snuck in right in there at the end.
by Screen Name 20 on Oct 17, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I do the same thing all the time...
no biggie…but I do agree the best way to keep PSU’s score down is to simply hold onto the ball…but as Texas Tech is proving if your offense is good enough you can get blown away in TOP and still win the ball game.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there are any teams that can offer that every game.
These are the teams off the top of my head that I think can execute the defense you described on their best days:
1. USC
2. Florida
3. TCU
4. Alabama
5. South Florida
6. Ohio State
by Cairo on Oct 17, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Out of those...
Alabama scares me the most. I haven’t seen a lot of SEC football this year but whatever defense can stop us will have to play a gap-control, well-disciplined defense. Bama has dominated against the run this year by blowing up the offensive line and forcing teams to become one-dimensional. I know Darryl Clark is a proficient passer, but it still seems to me that he holds the ball longer than he should a lot of the time. The best bet is to make Penn State beat you through the air and no one has really forced us to do that yet.
Excellent analysis by the way, carolina. Right on…
by jimbo2psu on Oct 17, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OSU scares me the most
because…you know…we are guaranteed to be playing them in 2 weeks.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 17, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OSU doesn't scare me
If their offense was clicking I would say yeah I am scared but they have been abysmal lately. Their defense isn’t that great. What does scare me is the fact that the game is on the road and the possibility of a wet day that could hinder the PSU offense.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OSU doesn't scare me much, either
but since as of right now we’re not scheduled to play USC, Florida, TCU, Alabama, or South Florida, they don’t even cross my mind.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 17, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
weather
can mess up the most probable of probabilities
it is weather I fear the most
by ImmaculatePerception on Oct 18, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was thinking along the same lines
USC has the depth, at all three levels. Could quibble with the smarts/discipline of the LB’s, but I won’t—they’re unquestionably athletic and actually really experienced this year. Ridiculous depth at Dline.
Florida’s intriguing. Not sure about their Dline depth.
TCU; dag I couldn’t find Versus last night; tried to switch over to watch them after a few highlights during the F$U game. Are they deep? LBs disciplined?
Bama is too young still. We could get their backers out of position. They’re DBs would bite on more than one big play by our receivers.
USF has mad talent. Selvie himself could blow up maybe 10 or more of our plays. But, jeesh, they get sloppy. Definitely not up there in the smarts dept, especially where Mr. Easy calls for the most need in that category: LB
Ohio State. Well, we’ll find out soon enough. Can’t wait actually. They’re too banged up and not nearly deep enough on Dline, tho they have one big stud in Ironhead’s boy. Oh, I can’t wait to see a pulling Cadogen or Wiz blow up that pretender JLaura. He’s not athletic enough to shed the blocks he needs to, but the other dude is, and their secondary is very, very talented.
Thanks for this post, Mr. Easy. Love the football background and focus.
pax et amor
by jtothep on Oct 17, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem...
I love to break down what the team is doing…I have been recording all of the games this year so I can go back after my season and put a playbook together on what they do…the formation that was broken down on here via video a few weeks back was great. Xs and Os are what I love about the game, I just get the strategy more…kinda like how I enjoy chess and Age of the Empires…lol We are all allowed to do something a little dorky right?
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw if anyone knows how to transfer a DVR recording on your Direct Tv reciever to your computer please let me know!
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Transferring Video Business Requirements
I looked into this a week or so ago, just to get a sense of the business requirements—in advance of researching the tech requirements. It’s tough. For us to be able to manipulate the video, we need to, as you noted, get the recording onto the pc. What does that mean, more specifically?
First, you need your pc to recognize the hardware on your network- wired or wireless, whatever, that recorder (Direct TV receiver/Tivo/Comcast DVR receiver) is a node on your network. The trick is to find some software that helps get that hardware recognized as a file storage location on your network, such that your pc can copy from it. This software could install on either the recording hardware—tough b/c of limitations imposed by the manufacturer or the TV service—or on your pc (this is a stretch actually; not sure if any software installed here could help your pc recognize any of these hardware devices). So, the tech solution search, at least, involves some software or hardware which can accomplish this. I’m not sure where to find that. I seem to remember installing a program when I first got my Tivo called Tivo to Go, which may do this.
It gets much easier, as someone posted last week, if the recording hardware is a pc with video capture (usually homebuilt—but could be a pre-built Media Center PC). If your computer is doing the original video capture, then, bam, you can easily get video manipulation software that would allow you to cut them up how you like (still would have to post to youtube or other host, before linking into here at SBN). But, not many of us have pc’s with cable/satellite capture cards in them that do our TV recording, do we?
Anyway, I figure the more I keep talking out the process here, the closer I (or we) will get to making this much easier for any of us to do, regardless of recording hardware.
pax et amor
by jtothep on Oct 17, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for dashing my hopes...
I just want a copy of all of the games on dvd
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll lose some quality, but....
if you have a tuner card in your pc, you can have the “S-Video out” from your DirecTV DVR feed into the “S-Video in” of the pc tuner card. If you don’t have a tuner card, you can get a Hauppauge 150 or 500 for under $40 on Ebay. You could use the software that comes with it or freeware like GBPVR.
I record directly to my PC, but I don’t save the games after I watch them. (My hard drive for recordings is only 250 G. I have to convince my son to let me delete some of the shows I’ve recorded for him that he’ll never watch.) I have a couple of dual tuner cards. I can record a couple analog cable things at the same time as I record something from the S video out of my cable box while recording an HD program on one of the local channels through the cable. I could burn the games to DVD, but I don’t know if I’d actually watch them often enough to make it worth the effort. The program that marks the commercials doesn’t always get it 100%. So then I have to go and adjust it one way or the other on some of the commercial breaks.
by Elihu on Oct 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's near the end of the workweek so...
I only read the first and last paragraphs. (Can you tell my attention span is gone?)
Does this help?
by Screen Name 20 on Oct 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are not a girly man
You can take apart your DVR, daisy chain its hard disk off of a normal desktop computer’s disk, and mount it read-only to safely get at the data. I’m pretty sure most DVR’s use conventional hard disks to keep costs down. And sure, this voids warranties, but it’s also fun and educational.
by gumbercules on Oct 19, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, you couldn't really do this...
They probably use a variation of Linux on the DVR, so the drive would be formatted for Linux & not Dos/Windows. Also, the data is encrypted. Supposedly, you can’t even put the drive in another DVR & see the data.
by Elihu on Oct 19, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything is possible with computers!
There’s ext2 drivers for Windows to read your Li-nux data! You just have to grow a pair. And besides, in the worst case you could just read raw data from the device and look for the MPEG file headers. But if the cable box encrypts data on the drive for some reason (I’m skeptical, because good encryption would significantly slow it down for little practical gain), and the encryption key is not shared across hardware and thus immediately cracked (which I bet some manufacturers are still dumb enough to do), I agree that it would get considerably more difficult.
by gumbercules on Oct 20, 2008 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
maybe I’ll be sending YOU the DVDs, then, since Kevin apparently doesn’t have ALL the games ;-)
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 17, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one thing I failed to mention
was the PSU play action which has opened things up downfield in plenty of games…that is why a fundamentally sound defense is a MUST to beat PSU when they don’t turn the ball over.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 17, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just win...
….by 3 TDs!
I love this ride. It is so much fun.
WE ARE……………………………..
PENN STATE!
Pat Devlin in '08, er, '09
by Nick7 on Oct 17, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking that the only team that could do that to us would be the New York Giants defense minus the secondary. I’m not too worried. We can only hurt ourselves. Good detail though.
by dougj18k on Oct 18, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey carolinaeasy
this is OT but where do you coach in South Carolina?
by NittanyLionForLife on Oct 19, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Down near Hilton Head
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 20, 2008 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your on the other side of the state. i’m a student at Aiken High.
by NittanyLionForLife on Oct 20, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately . . .
When I look at Penn State’s opponents so far, I find one common thread.
None of them are all that good.
Oregon State has the biggest win.
But what other team is any good at all?
Wisconsin got thrashed by Iowa on Saturday. Michigan is 2-4. Illinois got beat by Minnesota.
Until Penn State proves they can beat a decent team by beating Ohio State, they really haven’t proven anything, unfortunately.
by CDRS on Oct 20, 2008 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The players
…aren’t responsible for the schedule. All that they’ve done is win and win convincingly in every game that they’ve played. A lot of these teams have deflated after the matchup with PSU. A random reference: this reminds me of the 2003 KC Chiefs team that started 9-0. They were given grief about the quality of teams that they played, however they played teams that were 10+ games over .500 combined before playing the Chiefs, and 20+ games under .500 after playing the Chiefs. Was the opposition bad, or were they just exposed?
The Nittany Lions are not responsible for the play of the opposition. In the preseason we heard Oregon State would be the first quality opponent, then we heard it was going to be Illinois, then Purdue because they were the first quality road game, then Wisconsin. Now it’s pushed to Ohio State. What if PSU beats Ohio State this weekend, only to see the Buckeyes lose 4 in a row? Does another game get discounted yet again?
They now head into an environment that no Big Ten Nittany Lion team has registered a win, and they face a revitalized Ohio State team. Win or lose, I don’t know if it proves anything to the doubters.
by Cairo on Oct 20, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree . . .
That there’s nothing the players can do about the schedule. When they were scheduled, Syracuse looked like a quality opponent, as did Michigan.
That doesn’t change the fact that the teams they’ve played this year have had a mediocre to poor season, mostly poor.
They need to play their best game of the year to beat Ohio State. I think they can do it, but the Buckeyes will be by far the best team they’ve faced all year.
by CDRS on Oct 20, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Syracuse has been bad for a while
They haven’t had a winning season in four years. Let’s be honest… They, like Temple, have never been added to be a ‘quality’ SOS team.
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on Oct 21, 2008 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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