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A Lesson In Penn State-Ohio State History

(Ed. - This story originally ran last year. It's still just as funny.)

The year was 1912. Penn State was coming off of an 8-0-1 season in 1911, their greatest record to date. They had made the jump from a respectable team to an eastern power that was beating traditional eastern powers like Pitt, Penn, and Cornell. Under the direction of head coach Bill Hollenback Penn State was facing unprecedented success. But Hollenback had bigger ambitions. He wanted to take Penn State from being an eastern power to a national power. To do that, he looked west.

Ohio State was set to join the Western Conference (which would later become the Big Ten Conference) starting the following year. While they had enjoyed several successful years in the Ohio Athletic Conference, many questioned their worthiness to join the Western Conference due to the poor level of competition. Ohio State coach John Richards felt that a win over an eastern team would give his team more prestige and quiet their critics.

So on November 16, 1912 the two schools of Penn State and Ohio State met for the first time in Columbus, Ohio not realizing how intense this rivalry would become nearly 100 years later.

Star-divide

When the Penn State players arrived in Columbus they were shocked by the greeting they recieved. The local media gave them little respect arrogantly predicting a two touchdown victory for the scarlet and gray. And the local fans were equally rude and disrespectful. (Some things never change.) Before the game Hollenback shared several headlines from the local papers with the team. They all predicted a rout in favor of Ohio State. By the time kickoff came around the Penn State players were ready to rip someone's head off.

As the players took the field the 3,500 Ohio State fans in attendance laughed at the small town hicks from the Pennsylvania farmer school. They especially had a good laugh at the Penn State quarterback named "Shorty". Shorty Miller stood five-feet-five-inches tall and weighed just 145 pounds. But what Ohio State didn't realize was that Shorty was an old school version of Derrick Williams, a small player with darting speed that could cut on a dime. Had OSU known Shorty Miller would one day have a place in the College Football Hall of Fame along with his teammates Pete Mauthe and Dex Very, they probably wouldn't have been laughing so hard.

When the game started Penn State showed Ohio State how they played football back east. They blocked, they tackled, they pushed, they shoved, and they may have thrown a few elbows and fists. This was nothing new to Penn State. This was typical violence associated with the game to teams back east. But Ohio State and their fans cried foul. The Lions jumped out to a quick 16-0 lead off of a 30 yard touchdown run by Shorty Miller to close out the first quarter.

Ohio State head coach John Richards complained to the officials about the unnecessary roughness from the Penn State players. But the officials ignored his pleas saying there was plenty of rough play by both sides. The second quarter was extremely bloody with Penn State's Al Wilson getting knocked out cold and losing several teeth. Red Bebout (who later died in World War I) was severely lacerated from being stomped in the face. But hey, it's not like Ohio State was playing dirty or anything. Both men sucked it up and got back in the game.

At halftime the Penn State players decided to rest under a nearby tree since the dressing rooms were a very far walk from the field. Fans came down out of the stands and circled the Penn State players taunting them and even threatening them. It only served to make the visitors from the "farmer school" even more angry.

The second half started with Ohio State's quarterback fumbling the ball. Dex Very picked it up and ran it back 35 yards for the touchdown. Then just before the end of the third quarter Shorty Miller picked up a botched handoff from the center and darted 35 yards for his third touchdown and a 30-0 Penn State lead.

Early in the fourth quarter Penn State was down at the one yard line about to score again when one of Ohio State's star linemen challenged Miller to run the ball in his direction. Miller warned, "All right, cocky, here she comes," and he gave the ball to Pete Mauthe who smashed through the line for another score. The extra point was good and Penn State took a commanding 37-0 lead.

With about nine minutes left in the game State kicked off. On the return Dex Very completely layed out an Ohio State player with a particulary vicious hit. "That's enough," said coach Richards. "Illegal block. Illegal block. We're outta here." He pointed toward the dressing room and Ohio State walked off the field with nine minutes to go in the game as the partisan fans booed and jeered the Penn State players.

As the victorious team began to walk off the field the judge (who was probably a scarlet and gray fan) informed them the rules stated they would have to remain on the field until the clock expired in order to claim the forfeit. So the Penn State players walked about the field as the hometown fans threw insults and debris at them. One spectator came down out of the stands and began to rush them, but he got no further than assistant coach Dick Harlow who knocked him out cold with a single right fist. Police rushed the field to surround the Penn State players and protect them as fans grabbed some blue and white bunting under one of the goalposts and set it on fire.

Finally after five minutes expired the referee signaled the game was over and Penn State got the hell out of dodge. Ohio State officials met with the Penn State team at the hotel the next day to apologize, but the damage was done. The game was such an insult  to both teams that it would be another 44 years until the Buckeyes and Nittany Lions would meet again.

Officially the game was scored a 1-0 forfeit, but anywhere you see the game in Penn State record books (or on the game ball on dispay in the Penn State Football Hall of Fame room) it is recorded as a 37-0 victory.

(HT to the amazing Penn State Football Encyclopedia by Lou Prato)

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it would be nice

for a shorty to help us off to a 16-0 first quarter lead again on saturday

by gbd106 on Oct 22, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the fact they actually quit...

because PSU was crushing them and, apparently, playing to rough for the Buckeyes should be the alpha and omega argument for the numerous PSU/OSU pissing contests that are currently enflaming message boards and forums. how can an OSU fan hold his head up now (and not count his manhood cheapened), knowing that his team once pulled a Randy Moss to the Lions cause they wouldn’t play nice with those midwestern boys? great bit of history

"michigan : a mitten jerking-off it's upper peninsula since 1837"

by conquering lion in the 215 on Oct 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Barely

They barely quit. Keep that in mind.

by gcdyersb on Nov 5, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

These new-skool kids with their damn facemasks

How are you supposed to lascerate someone’s face by stomping on it when the stupid facemask is in the way?

I say….DOWN WITH PROTECTIVE FACEMASKS!

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now you have to

go with the Brandon Spikes approach.

by jimbo2psu on Nov 5, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he's suspended for a whole game now.

now he’s “suspending himself” for the full game. i seriously wonder if this was a ploy to make him look like a jebow disciple or something. now he’s so humble that he took himself out of the entire game…against vandy! what a saint, because it is definitely a game where he could launch himself to national attention status!

this must be meyer’s way to make nfl teams forget that he tried to gauge out an opponents eye…look he’s a saint now!

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 5, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The SEC

is such a joke even the kid who’s eyes he tried to gouge out came and and said it wasn’t a big deal haha! Wow. Just wow.

We are not normal. We are legends.

by NittanyAlum02 on Nov 5, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think that's a man-law

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 5, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did Zack Mills...

beat a PSU record set by Shorty Miller in 1912? I seem to recall it. Maybe it was Mike McQueary.

by Cairo on Oct 22, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Curt Warner

Broke Shorty Miller’s single game rushing record in 1982. Curt’s record was eventually broken by LJ about 6 times, but the Miller record (like 220 yards) stood for a long, long time.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Oct 23, 2008 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Found it.

PSU 29, O$U 27 (2001)

-Zack Mills’s 418 yards of total offense is a Penn State record. The previous total offense high was 370 yards, set by Mike McQueary against Pittsburgh in 1997.

-Zack Mills’ rushing total (138 yards) is second-highest by a quarterback in PSU history. The only QB with more rushing yardage was Shorty Miller, who gained 250 yards vs. Carnegie Tech in 1913.

by Cairo on Oct 23, 2008 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah?

Do they sound hot?

pax et amor

by jtothep on Oct 23, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, not really

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My alma mater!

I had the privilege of seeing the game ball from when we toppled Knute Rockne and Notre Dame back in 1926. If the school president hadn’t killed athletics in the 1940s, they might be Pitt’s main rival now.

by gumbercules on Nov 5, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

...train robbers, bank robbers, ass kickers, shit kickers, aannndd...

METHODISTS!

sorry…the power of christ compelled me (i’ve got to stop living through movie quotes)

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 5, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Could you repeat that Mr. Lamar?

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Another Reason

This site continues to be the best PSU site on the internet. Great read — thank you!

by millzners on Oct 22, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope JoePa

reads this to his players in the pregame…..I’m at work and this makes me want to rip someone’s head off!!!

by jimbo2psu on Oct 22, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's an awesome idea!!

That’s the first time I’ve heard the actual story. That’s a lot different than the story that’s been told across the internet for years.

by RNF18 on Oct 22, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't

JoePa an assistant coach for the 1912 team.. J/K that is a great article, hopefully you guys can duplicate the feat this weekend.

by Lostincali on Oct 23, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no he wasn't an assistant coach in 1912

He was the QB for Brown that year

How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?

by psupride on Nov 5, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some things never change....

I read that and was thinking the exact same thing….

When the Penn State players arrived in Columbus they were shocked by the greeting they recieved. The local media gave them little respect arrogantly predicting a two touchdown victory for the scarlet and gray. And the local fans were equally rude and disrespectful.

by Screen Name 20 on Oct 22, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent job...

as always, Mike. Beautifully written.

By the way, the feeling out here in Columbus is that “we shut down Javon Ringer, so we should be able to shut down Penn State’s run game, no problem”.

We’ll see how that attitude works out for them. We’re not Michigan State… our offense has perhaps a few more dimensions.

by BSM PSU 93 on Oct 23, 2008 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

So are they comparing Brian Hoyer and Daryll Clark on the same level? When Hoyer got knocked out of the game I doubt they really worried about MSU’s passing attack.

by BSD on Oct 23, 2008 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

would you

really worry about MSU’s passing attack with Hoyer in the game??

by Lostincali on Oct 23, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we have five......

…… thousand

(someone will get it)

by queler on Oct 23, 2008 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

'both men sucked it up and got back in the game'

One of my favorite things about reading old-school stories like this is to try and wrap my mind around just how tough those motherphuquers must have been. My gawd! A lacerated face from a cleat stomping, and you go back in the game? Revenge had to be a factor there, right? You wanna fight through the pain to get another shot at the dbag who did it.

Good stuff. Keep the history coming, Mike!

pax et amor

by jtothep on Oct 23, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be like having

11 Ty Cobbs on a football field.

Would be interesting to see what any of those old-timers think of all the rules protecting the safety of the players. God we’re all soft nowadays.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 5, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?

by psupride on Nov 5, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can we get this made into an actual Trophy?

Maybe BSD could hand out the Pryor-Cryor Trophy as its yearly award encompassing a bevy of traits….poor sportsmanship, whiner, most dejected, biggest cry-baby etc. I have a feeling though that DickRod would be a multiple year winner.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?

by pic15 on Nov 5, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there a reason that the comments

on the “Posioness Nuts” post are closed?

Beat Ohio State.

by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 9:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eh

RUTS made a mistake and posted it by accident. It’s technically “hidden”, but some people can see it.

by BSD on Nov 5, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't see it

No fair! :|

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I read it

and it sucked. It’s not even done yet.

by BSD on Nov 5, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Full Frontal Retard

is priceless.

Beat Ohio State.

by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know this is our guy

but this picture looks very similar to the Pryor Fumble pic

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 5, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The caption said:

College football Hall of Famer E. E. “Shorty” Miller ’14 races past University of Pennsylvania defenders in a game at Franklin Field.

by Pentimental on Nov 5, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha.

Is that George Clooney in the background?

by Pentimental on Nov 5, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I sorta wonder what people will talk like in the future

since eventually we’ll be the outdated people being made fun of

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 5, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OMG,ICBTO-DMTBUFWAS.TTYL

(OMG, I can’t believe those out-dated morons talked by using full words and sentences. TTYL).

by jtw126 on Nov 5, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What is on that guy's head?

Is that a young brutus buckeye before he transferred to tOSU because he couldn’t keep his grades up at Penn?
.
.

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

red x

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What does that mean?

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now???

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 5, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the ball

That Shorty is chasing down. It just happens to be covering up the head of a player on the ground in the background.

by jtw126 on Nov 5, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, haha....that makes sense.

I thought maybe the mascot got roughed up.

/depth perception be damned

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 5, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

I too thought it was a roughed up mascot

How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?

by psupride on Nov 5, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, look at the stands

It’s like Ryan Field.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that thing on the right the ball, or did the buckeye mascot fall down?

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 5, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Excellingly Excellent!

And it took them 44 years before they let penn state come back to Columbus just to have Rip Engle ruin Woody’s national title hopes. Plum was a peach that day. PSU-7 OSU-6

by penntatefan on Nov 5, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This also explains

my recent acts of violence towards people in scarlet and gray.

by penntatefan on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow...a poop joke. That's cute.

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 5, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So...

Why is the Buckeye chasing the poop?
Joe’s old. At least he has a good excuse.

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Always topical humor

I can apprecaite that. Hey BuckeyeSki, YOUR MOM!

We are not normal. We are legends.

by NittanyAlum02 on Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, that's not right

Pryor fumbled the Depends before JoePa could take them.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lame

Seriously. It’s not even funny.

by BSD on Nov 5, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously. Terrance and Phillip have more diverse material.

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 5, 2009 12:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Nothin wrong with that

T and P are hilarious

Buckeyeski…not so much

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Nov 5, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No. He barely fumbles. Barely.

"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."

by PSUtopia on Nov 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or punt it?

Whatever. Everybody does.

by BSD on Nov 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, wait, wait....

It says Poo-terno, get it? Like he poos. Poo.

Beat Ohio State.

by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's

Smart – S – M – R – T – Smart!

We are not normal. We are legends.

by NittanyAlum02 on Nov 5, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

And his photoshopping skills are far superior to ours. Just look at the plastic wrap filter he applied to that first one. It really gives it that artistic edge. And you can really see the passion in Brutus eyes as he races behind Joe to try and get the opportunity to wipe his ass.

by skarocksoi on Nov 5, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to go out on a limb here

and guess that B-ski put no work into these himself, but simply lifted from the web what he thought were the most offensive PSU photoshops he could find.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 5, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course I did...

You dont think I’d waste time on anything to do with State Penn do you?

by BuckeyeSki on Nov 5, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You've sure spent a lot of time...

over here this week for not wanting to “waste time on anything to do with” us. Logic FAIL?

by PSUFlyers on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What?

Like trolling on PSU blogs?

by BSD on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

EPIC FAIL

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I see what you did there

you put State in front of Penn. Clever. Very clever, indeed.

by Screen Name 20 on Nov 6, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No No No

He’s got mad computer skills. I think I’ve even figured out who this computer mastermind might be.

They even have a news report about him?

by skarocksoi on Nov 5, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Filled with team pride as well

His avatar celebrating a different school’s victory over PSU.

by gumbercules on Nov 5, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That is pretty funny

Like the Northwestern idiot that trashed us on Bleacher Report this week. Used a picture of Michigan leveling Anthony Morelli to accompany his article. Wha?

by BSD on Nov 5, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are so country

And oh so easy to rile up……your team is relevant once a decade…and that was last year

by BuckeyeSki on Nov 5, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Funny thing

I’ve only heard one or two Buckeye fans lay out a logical argument why they can win this game. And usually that involves Clark throwing a ton of picks and Pryor “breaking out” for the game of his life we’ve all been waiting for. Both conditions depend on completely ignoring past results. I can’t see how this bodes well for Ohio State.

But like I said, I’ve only seen a few Buckeyes make that argument. The rest of them just want to tell four year old poop jokes.

by BSD on Nov 5, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see...

Anyone “riled” up. Isn’t that a very country term? Throw up a funny photochop and these guys will laugh their asses off. We’ll wait. By the way, is it possible that you have never shart in your pants?

by Pentimental on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather be "country" than"Columbus"

any day of the week.

Beat Ohio State.

by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In my honest opinion, and putting poo jokes aside...

We will win this game because our D is the best since ‘02. Our D-Line is stacked 3 deep and will get consistant pressure on Clark, who is a good QB, absolutely, but is also very guilty of staring down receivers. Granted, Pryor does “arm punt” occasionally, and if your D-line gets pressure on him, there will be some dead ducks thrown up. But your ’workhorse’ RB Royster is not very good this year. Your O-Line is worse than ours. We dont have a stud RB this year either, but our depth is 4 deep @ that position too. Fresh legs all over the place. The only thing that concerns me is our sieve of an O-Line. Iowa laid a blueprint for how to pressure Clark, and that is pressure from all angles. Our LB’s are the fastest in the B11, and In closing, I think that this game will be a Defensive battle that is won by the team w/ less turnovers. Good luck guys, as I’m outta poo jokes. LOL

by BuckeyeSki on Nov 5, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Clark is not guilty of staring down receivers

Michigan fans said that before he and his receivers exposed their joke of a “secondary”.

Royster is very good this year. What have you been watching? He struggled early because he wasn’t getting good blocking. Now he is, and he looks great.

Our o-line is worse? And then you call your line a “sieve”? I highly doubt our line would have performed as badly against Purdue.

I think everyone is convinced Penn State hasn’t at all improved since Iowa.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately for you

this is not the same team that lost to iowa…

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 5, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

O RLY

Tell me, is Royster leading the league in rushing? I’m not sure but where I come from 859 > 839.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Nov 5, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Royster, bad?

Maybe not having a huge season, but he’s been good in B-10 play, averaging over 4 YPC in every B-10 game. For the season, he’s averaging 5.9 YPC. And he wasn’t padding stats early since the PSU O-line was getting handled by Akron and Syracuse.

Not 7 YPC with a dozen TDs, but he’s been playing very well.

by gcdyersb on Nov 5, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Come on man....

If Royster couldnt be good against your cupcake buffet schedule you’ve played, what makes you think he’ll be at all productive agaginst the Silver Bullets?

by BuckeyeSki on Nov 5, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

From the team with the rushing attack consisting of Pryor and some other guys.

He is your leading rusher, right? Good luck with that, at least Mark Rubin has graduated.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 5, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Just like the “Clark stares down his receivers” meme, the “Royster is overrated” meme has spread.

I’m going to say this once: Royster had no running room against our “cupcake buffet”. The offensive line has improved. I know the idea of a team improving is hard to grasp for a fan of a team with Terelle Pryor and a line that hasn’t improved.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait

what about the “Milhouse is not a meme” meme?

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 5, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Clark does stare down his receivers at times.

by Screen Name 20 on Nov 6, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Silver Bullets?

aren’t they the professional womens baseball team that frequented tWWL in the late 90s?

Because it's a Bowl Game!!
-My wife when asked why she didn't tell me she was having contractions Jan. 1 2007

by Grainey on Nov 5, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, yes they were

Nice obscure reference my friend.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 5, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Staredowns

If the first read is often open and Clark is hitting him, then of course he’s staring him down….doesn;t mean he’s covered.

by JoePaMustStay on Nov 5, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Clark has a bad tendancy to float passes

That’s a fact.

Beat Ohio State.

by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not here to make excuses, because he does

but that seems to be greatly influenced by wind. Pryor has a bad tendency to float passes and stare down his recievers. Advantage – push.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 5, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not seeing it.

Aside from the Iowa debacle I think Clark has been DAMN good. Don’t mistake surprising touch for floating either. It can also look like a float if the Dbacks gamble on a pick and miss….

by JoePaMustStay on Nov 5, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He does a lot of things well

Don’t get me wrong. But he totally floats passes. I don’t see the staring recievers down as much.

Beat Ohio State.

by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think a lot of it is staring off defenders

Because you see how often he occasionally gets guys deep.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 5, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll agree

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Clark isn't the reason we lost to Iowa..

Or certainly not the main reason.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 5, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, if you're going to blame anyone for the Iowa loss

BLAME IOWA

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 5, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, blame me

Blame me.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Booooo

Boooo to the Rambler Valient!
Boooo to the something Rambler!

by BSD on Nov 5, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not the reason...

but he had the last clear chance to win it. That third and long Williams was open. Clark throws a strike, Penn State converts, ends up in scoring position, and they win. But he overthrew it (floated it), interception, and well, the rest is history.

Beat Ohio State.

by jesse. on Nov 5, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He was, at first

Which makes this all the more funny.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I'm wrong

JoePaMustStay’sPost was later. Robot fail.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 5, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What's Funny?

They got handled this year, it DEFINITELY wasn’t all Clark or the calls and non-calls but both were factors….inability to handle their front 4 was the biggest, though, what a nightmare.

by JoePaMustStay on Nov 5, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zebras did it to them against IA

…wouldn’t’ve been punting and Claydreds wouldn’t have blocked it had the blantat personal foul late him on 3rd down been called….who knows what happens after that, coulda drove it in.

by JoePaMustStay on Nov 5, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ok...lets not get into that

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 5, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, seriously

the thread for Iowa was from over a month ago, time to stop focusing on the past, and focus your hatred forward, like, say, to Ohio State.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 5, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

...and red zone offense FAIL.

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by Run Up The Score on Nov 6, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs


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