Penn State - Ohio State Stat Comparison
So what can we gather from this?
It looks like the matchups between the Penn State offense and Ohio State defense will be fun to watch. Penn State may have a slight advantage in the running game with Ohio State having a slight advantage in pass defense. But overally this looks like the classic irresistible force and immovable object case. The key stat for me is third down efficiency. Ohio State has been a middle of the road team on third down conversions while Penn State has been outstanding in moving the chains. If Penn State can get decent yardage on first and second downs forcing short yardage on third downs I think Ohio State is going to have a real hard time stopping the Nitts.
A glance at Ohio State's offensive numbers against our defensive numbers makes me feel pretty good about our chances. The only thing that bugs me is the 45 points they hung on Sparty last week. A lot of that was aided by turnovers, but that's still a lot of points. Ohio State fans that went into that game uneasy about their offense are suddenly feeling like Tressel hit on something and they are expecting similar results from here out. We'll find out on Saturday night if they are correct.
The key will be stopping Terrelle Pryor and Beanie Wells from running the ball. If they can keep Pryor in the pocket and force him to throw I think the Penn State defense will handle them easily. If we come out playing nickel with five guys in the box like we did against Michigan expect the State College suicide hotline to get another flood of calls around the end of the first quarter.
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So basically
as you said, it looks like our offense vs their defense is a pretty solid matchup, but (if the history of this season continues) their offense should be pretty incompetent against our defense. Let’s just hope that their game against Sparty last week was an aberration (and that our first quarter against Michigan last week was our only “choke” of the season).
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 23, 2008 9:59 AM EDT
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I'm with you 100%, but
their offense vs. Michigan State was helped out a LOT by turnovers and their defense in general. Their offense only scored 31 of the 45 points last week, and even 7 of those were because of a super short field provided again by their defense with a turnover. 24 points their offense truly earned IMO. If we take care of the football (sort of a big ’if’) I like us in this one. If not we are in deep trouble.
by jimbo2psu on
Oct 23, 2008 10:33 AM EDT
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It is going to be a great game.
As you alluded to, the problem with the stats comparison this week is that Ohio State is still evolving, and is not the same team that started the year. I hope they have retained the ability, or possibly it is a skill, to buckle under the pressure of the big game! I suspect they still have this tendency because some of it has to be coaching and how they approach practice leading up to the game. If you hear Joepa telling the team to have a good time, it makes me suspect PSU is more likely to be relaxed heading into the matchup.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on
Oct 23, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
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I really fear Beanie chewing up yards and the secondary creeping up in run support, only to have TP pop a cheap one.
Also, Gaines, Evans, and Maybin have to be huge this week on the edge. We just can’t give up the outside to TP on those zone reads.
by Spats on
Oct 23, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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Given the intangibles -
I’d say that any “push” should realistically fall to tosu. History, coupled with sweatervest’s call for a “used Kotex out” – should make it a pretty hostile environment.
PSU can’t give the bucknuts anything – sloppy play like last Saturday will result in a much larger deficit than 10 points. I worry about Clark trying to “get that extra yard” and “be the hero” rather than just executing. He has to be calm.
On defense, I agree with the post above – run defense has to be solid – the linebackers are going to have to step up and make some plays – if that means playing true freshmen – then so be it – Puz, DCon and Seanly all played as freshmen.
It sounds like the team is excited and ready – that’s the best attitude they can have – confidence that they can and will win – and the ability to adapt to make it happen will be key.
Let’s Go State!
by PSUgirl on
Oct 23, 2008 10:46 AM EDT
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LOL @ ESPN college spotlight
On one of those videos you can see on Penn State’s page on ESPN.com, the college spotlight video for Oct 22, 2008, the guy says “Penn State’s offensive line is only decent”. Man, 6th in the country in sacks allowed, 7th in scoring offense, 11th in total offense (10th rush, 31st passing), and very few penalties (that seem to generally come late in the game after it is already decided)…man I wish we could have better than just a decent offensive line.
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 23, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
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you can see it faster
if you just watch the Todd McShay’s Penn State vs Ohio State preview video immediately below
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 23, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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Michigan vs Ohio State
Against Michigan, the PSU defense adjusted to stop the run. That adjustment was the end of the Michigan offense. The reason for that is poor QB play. Michigan can really not throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield. And anything from 5 to 10 yards is iffy.
If Penn State loads up the box to stop Wells and Pryor, Pryor can drop back and throw the ball. He doesn’t have to be great. He doesn’t have to do anything special. He just has to get the ball to the WRs. The throws don’t even have to be 10 yards downfield.
That will force the Lions to adjust to take guys out of the box allowing OSU to run. Pryor is an effective enough passer to force PSU to play an honest defense.
Ohio State is going to move the ball and score points. Its just up to the PSU defense to dictate how they do that. I will assume PSU will start with a 4-3 and force Pryor to throw the ball. Then it will be up to the results for how PSU changes.
The difference in the game is going to be turnovers. Penn State being better than -1 and it will be a close game.
by DrDetroit on
Oct 23, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
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Adversity
It hadn’t occured to me, at least not until down 10-0 last week, that when Joe said that the team needed to face adversity that meant that the fans would have to face adversity as well.
However, head in my hands sobbing, “No, no, No, please make it stop!” worked this time.
I hope we’ve gotten this “adversity” stuff out of our system, and can now go up early and take control of the game.
by confirmy on
Oct 23, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
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I was gripped with fear the entire first half.
I kept reminding myself that this isn’t the 2006 offense and that made me feel a lot better. I plan on utilizing this strategy Saturday night as well.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on
Oct 23, 2008 2:28 PM EDT
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I plan on drinking heavily.
Because I didn’t think to do so in the stands last week…and I think it’ll help in the long run
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on
Oct 23, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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Yup. I will be there with ya on that one
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on
Oct 24, 2008 2:24 AM EDT
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The play of Evan Royster
and his friends on the offensive line will determine the outcome of this game. If they can get 5 yards any time they need it, as they have so far this season, Lions win. Second down is the key. Defense doesn’t need to hold opponents under 10 points any more. I like our chances. We bought National Championship tickets yesterday!
by dr kill on
Oct 23, 2008 3:22 PM EDT
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Florida
residents are special. The Orange Bowl has been offering a two-bowl package to us since September. It was time to buy.
by dr kill on
Oct 24, 2008 9:09 AM EDT
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I would use pass efficiency rather than yardage...
For the passing stats. Teams that have success running may not need to pass, and look bad by yardage. Conversely, teams that are always behind may have to pass more to keep up.
If a team is 15-20 for 160 yards, 2 TDs and 0 INTs it certainly appears they are a better passing team than one that is 25-53 for 320 yards 1 TD and 3 INTs…Yardage-wise, the second team will look “twice as good”…
by Pants McPants on
Oct 24, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
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It's on there
It’s called the QB Rating and Opp QB Rating.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on
Oct 24, 2008 11:20 AM EDT
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Love these stat comparisons
Thanks Mike. Great job here and throughout the BSD site.
If you look at these stats side by side the traditional way (without the fancy chart) it still looks awfully good for PSU:
+ Rush Offense (yd/game) PSU 234.6 (10) OSU 182.4 (34)
+ Pass Offense (yd/game) PSU 247.5 (31) OSU 140.1 (108)
+ QB Rating PSU 151.6 (19) OSU 131.9 (47)
+ Total Offense (yd/game) PSU 482.1 (11) OSU 322.3 (92)
+ Sacks Allowed/Game PSU .75 (6) OSU 2.63 (103)
+3rd Down Conv. Offense PSU 52.0% (8) OSU 41.5% (50)
+ Scoring Offense (PPG) PSU 45.4 (7) OSU 26.9 (56)
= Rush Defense (yd/game) PSU 103.9 (22) OSU 97.1 (17)
= Pass Defense (yd/game) PSU 159.4 (11) OSU 168.3 (15)
+ Opp. QB Rating PSU 93.4 (4) OSU 97.6 (10)
= Total Defense (yd/game) PSU 263.3 (8) OSU 265.4 (10)
+ Scoring Defense 11.8 (6) OSU 13.4 (12)
+ Sacks/Game 2.88 (14) OSU 1.75 (63)
+ 3rd Down Conv. Defense 27.5% (5) OSU 36.5% (50)
- Kickoff Defense PSU 22.2 (76) OSU 18.4 (19)
+ Kickoff Returns PSU 29.5 (2) OSU 18.9 (107)
- Net Punting PSU 36.0 (50) OSU 43.1 (2)
+ Punt Returns PSU 10.9 (43) OSU 5.69 (99)
- Takeaways PSU 15 (32) OSU 21 (2)
+ Giveaways PSU 8 (12) OSU 9 (18)
+ Penalty YPG PSU 29.8 (5) OSU 44 (30)
by confirmy on
Oct 24, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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