Grading the Offense Against Ohio State
We all expected more offense in this game, but I think we can all agree the end result came out ok. Let's take a look at how the offense did.
Offensive Line
The line had trouble creating running lanes as Ohio State did an excellent job of clogging the middle. But they were getting a nice push allowing Royster to gain three or four yards when there was seemingly nothing there. I thought Landolt was having problems holding a few blocks on Gibson, but Cadogen had an excellent game. Penn State was often pulling him down the line as a lead blocker. It's quite satisfying watching a linebacker line up thinking he's about to bring down Royster for no gain just before big ol' #76 comes around the corner and pancakes him. Ohio State is claiming moral victory because they held us sixty yards under our season average in rushing yards. I'm claiming moral victory because we rushed for sixty yards over their defensive average.
They had their hands full with pass protection as Ohio State was blitzing heavily on passing downs. Again I thought Cadogen did extremely well. Everyone else was ok and they only gave up one sack.
Final Grade: B
Running Backs
As I mentioned before Evan Royster had a tough time finding any open space to run. The Ohio State defensive line did an excellent job of blocking the running lanes. But he did what good backs do in those situations. He followed the push of his offensive line and got three yards where other backs would try to bounce outside and lose two. He was never once tackled for a loss. But there were a few cases where he missed a blitz pickup, and he made a poor decision in cutting a screen pass inside instead of following his blockers in the red zone. He may have cost us a touchdown there.
I was really pleased to see Stephfon Green come in the game early in the third quarter with the game on the line. I thought it was a nice change of pace that had potential for a huge payoff if he could hit a home run. He didn't hit any out of the park, but he did have a nice 12 yard gain that helped swing the field position in our favor. Then he had some nice five and six yard gains to finish with a healthy 7.7 ypc.
But Royster came back in late when the game was on the line and Penn State was clinging to a slim four point lead. Resting him up in the third quarter turned out to be a brilliant move. Starting at the PSU 37 yard line they handed the ball off to Royster on seven out of eight plays with the other play being a quarterback sneak for a first down. Royster gained 28 of his 77 yards on that final drive eating up three of the final four minutes and set up a Kevin Kelly field goal to ensure at worst an overtime period.
Final Grade: B
Quarterbacks
Ohio State got pressure on Clark early and often and I didn't think he handled it well. He never looked comfortable in the pocket or decisive in his throws. He overthrew a few guys and almost threw an interception. Luckily Deon Butler is a converted defensive back and broke it up even if he did have to interfere to do it. On third down passing Clark completed 3-of-5 but only got one first down and he also took a sack. Not a great day.
But Clark did have his moments. The throw to Zug was a great read even if the ball was underthrown. And he picked up some crucial yards and first downs by running the ball.
Pat Devlin came in after Clark got his bell rung. He did a fine job handing off to Evan Royster and sealing the win. His one pass attempt drew a pass interference call, and unlike Pryor he dove over center for the touchdown instead of trying to get too much.
I was a little curious in the way Clark handled getting benched. He was clearly upset by it. By all accounts it was a medical decision, but I'm not 100% buying that. Clark stayed in the game after getting hit. The next handoff looked a little awkward, but after that he completed a couple of nice passes to Butler and Williams and had a nice 12 yard gain on a draw play. The third quarter then came to an end. You would think the doctors would have had a chance to evaluate him during the timeout. If he really had a problem they should have pulled him then. But he went back in the game and finished off the drive for the field goal.
But then Devlin came in the game and just handed off the ball. Even if Clark was struggling in the passing game he could have done that. Maybe the coaches throught putting Devlin in would make Ohio State worry about the pass more and open up the running game. It seemed to work as Royster promptly ripped off a nine yard gain. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit?
I mentioned Clark's attitude after throwing the pick against Wisconsin. here again I didn't like the way he handled being benched. The team looks up to him as a leader. He can't be stomping around throwing cups and kicking helmets on the sideline. He needs to cheer on his teammates and stay focused. I was very disappointed by this.
Final Grade: B
Recievers
The trio of Williams, Butler, and Norwood were virtually non-existant combining for six catches and 28 yards. Usually you can count on them to block well but Butler whiffed twice on his block for a couple of bubble screens to Norwood and Williams. Butler had a pass interference penalty, but that was arguably a good play on a poorly thrown ball. It was just not a good day for any of them.
Graham Zug saved the group from a failing grade by making the huge play to set up the game's first score.
Final Grade: D
Offensive Coaching
I've watched the game twice and I'm still sitting here trying to figure out if the offensive coaching philosophy was idiotic, brilliant, or just lucky.
On one hand, pucker pucker pucker. It was a classic Joe Paterno game where they only score 13 points and hope the defense can hold on for a victory on the road. They ran the ball 37 times versus only 20 pass attempts. On first and second down the split was 30-15. They even ran it three times on third and long situations. Pucker pucker pucker. Even more discouraging was how they kept running over right guard over and over. Even after Williams took the opening snap and busted a pitch right for 14 yards they almost never went back to it.
But on the other hand, it seemed to wear Ohio State down. Maybe sitting Royster in the third quarter was just a way of resting him up for the punishing fourth quarter drive.
I can't argue with the results, but the Wisconsin game should have proven to us we can open up the play book on the road. A two touchdown lead would have been a daggar to the heart of the Buckeyes. Their offense isn't capable of passing when it needs to come from behind. Keeping it a low scoring field position game played directly into their hands.
Final Grade: D
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sooo right about Brackett...
they almost kicked me out of Game On at Caesar’s Pier in Atlantic City for yelling “SUSTAIN THAT BLOCK, SUSTAIN THAT BLOCK”. D-Will had alot of space in front of him. For someone built like a tight end, you have to hold that block for at least a couple of seconds
hopes Maybin wipes his ass with some TP
by conquering lion in the 215 on Oct 27, 2008 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i mean Butler...oops
hopes Maybin wipes his ass with some TP
by conquering lion in the 215 on Oct 27, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it okay...
…that I wish there was a “none of the above” option on that poll?
I’ll have the defensive grades up tonight, by the way.
by Run Up The Score on Oct 27, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it is about as ok...
…as my debate on whether to legitimately vote for Graham Zug, but I figured if I’d give it to Zug for one great play, then I’d have to give it to Devlin for his TD. Then I figured that Royster basically carried this team, riding on the back of the O-line. I’d say Royster gets 0.5 of my vote, and the O-line gets 0.4, while Zug & Devlin get 0.05 each.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 27, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thinking the same way...but
I gave it all to Devlin. He came in and nailed it. Everyone else had small mistakes. The Oline could have got it also.
Peter
by psuboy on Oct 27, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Under the offensive line category you wrote that Ohio State was
claiming a moral victory for holding us under our rushing average. Well, I’m simply claiming victory. Penn State scored 13, and Ohio State scored 6.
by Ab4PSU on Oct 27, 2008 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While Clark might have been pissed at being benched, I chalk that up to
being a competitor. I think everything’s fine. Did you see he got over his bad self and was up and clapping and cheering after he got over the initial insult. I liken that to a drunk being told he’s too drunk to drive. He took a shot to the head and wasn’t himself, but I thought he got with the winning team after he calmed down. He wasn’t sitting by himself sulking.
by Ab4PSU on Oct 27, 2008 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Errr...
I don’t doubt he is a competitor but he acted like a baby. Truth is, he didn’t have a great game and couldn’t get much going with arm or legs.
Also, Kevin Kelly seems to miss a lot of very important kicks, he is great w/ little pressure but come on dude…I am haivng FSU flashbacks.
Zug is the best playeyr on the team…maybe ever…dude is clutch.
by SweepTheLeg on Oct 27, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kelly
hit the kick to make it a 7 point lead.
granted, it was from shorter distance, but still, the pressure is there. given he has been better this year, i’ll give him a free pass on this one.
if he reverts to orange bowl performance levels, i will take care of him.
http://glassesofjoe.blogspot.com/
by psudrozz on Oct 27, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
it isn’t like he is completely shanking them. His misses have been very close, and although don’t count like in horseshoes (and hand grenades!) they aren’t horrible
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 27, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree with JNitt
He’s been close on the misses and only has a few this year, one from like 60 yards and one that I think hit the post (?) I think he’s alright under pressure and I hope he doesn’t have to prove me right.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 27, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On benching Clark
Was I the only one who wasn’t worried about the fact that our starting QB was pulled? I’ve been a supporter of Clark since mid summer and I’m thrilled to see the success he’s been having, but putting Devlin in during the 4th quarter didn’t cause any worry. I was still worried about what the outcome of the game would be, but certainly not because of who was taking snaps.
I LOVE knowing that our backup is better than many (most?) teams’ starting QBs.
by lmrlion on Oct 27, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't worry for a second
(of course it helped that they moved the ball pretty effectively with Devlin in there)
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 27, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was strangely calm
and I can’t explain why. Devlin said the same thing of himself. I chalk some of this up to anyone being under center except QB14.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 27, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Clark showed his lack of experience in this game.
I don’t blame him for this, but we have gotten accustomed to expecting results you would see from a 4 year starter. I cannot imagine that Joe would pull Clark for his game play, this is the same staff that gave us 2 years of Morelli when it would have been better to direct snap to the RB half the time.
So is the final verdict on the amount of pressure Clark was under from bad running back blocks or the Oline, it seems someone has to take the blame. Or maybe it was the coaches, in which case D is appropriate.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Oct 27, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JayPa maintained that is was purely a medical decision.
For what that’s worth….
by jimbo2psu on Oct 27, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team doctor said that it was a medical decision, as well. He’s the one who said that Clark couldn’t go back in, and the team went with it.
There’s a story in the NYT about this.
by Bleed Blue 'n White on Oct 27, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he was pulled for medical reasons
He was actually able to complete a few passes after the concussion, but even the players said it was pretty clear that Clark’s bell was still ringing.
by Run Up The Score on Oct 28, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Clark played pretty well, aside from a few balls that sailed on him. Really, that was the first time he’s seen any significant pressure all season. However, he still managed the game well and single-handedly kept a few drives going. The playcalling was not real creative. And, as good as Rosyter played in the 4th quarer, he looked a little tentative earlier and seemed to make a few bad cuts or poor reads on blocks.
by Spats on Oct 27, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My $.02
Regardless of the reason for Clark being pulled, I have said to coworkers that ever since the beginning of the season that a situation where moving the ball in a close game, against a tough opponent, would be a challenget would be the ideal time to bring in Devlin. Not for any reason other than to throw a wrinkle at the opposing D. Something different than what they have been seeing up to that point in the game.
Because the rest of the offense seemed to worry one bit that their leader had been replaced showed me the confidence that they have in their backup QB, the respect he commands and the poise that he has. That got Devlin my MVP vote.
I agree that I didn’t like seeing Clark’s initial reaction. I would expect him to show the same confidence in his backup that the rest of his teammates were showing. I was glad to see him shake that and get into his unfamiliar role as cheerleader. I agree with the earlier comment about his initial reaction could also be a sign of his competitiveness and I’m not going to fault anyone for competiveness, but leaders still handle themselves better in those siuations.
One last point (because I will ramble on all day if I don’t stop soon). I have mixed feeling about how I would overall evaluate Clark’s performance. The O-line was not giving him the type of protection that he had been accustomed too. I think there’s something to the argument that he didn’t handle it well, but I also believe that there certainly have to be some plays in the playbook that could have kept that pass rush honest. Designed rollouts to give Clark more time to throw (on the run), some options, more play action and/or screens. I think his coaches could have done a little more to help him handle that situation, but like everyone else here, it’s tough to bitch about the end result.
"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"
by nitwit86 on Oct 27, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
clark's role as a cheerleader is not THAT unfamiliar
As he spent two years trying to cheer on some other guy already.
by borisborisboris on Oct 27, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, sir
So surely the role this past Saturday should have been more enjoyable than any other time he had to assume it prior to that.
"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"
by nitwit86 on Oct 27, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I think that after sipping fine wine, it’s that much harder to go back to Natty Ice. Clark had worked so hard for so long to be in that very position against all odds, and rightly felt that he had earned the right by virtue of his play this season to be in the game. I can’t blame him for being visibly beside himself with frustration that he was not able to see his dream realized after coming so close. As it turned out, he eventually got himself together and realized what’s good for the team is the important thing. It may have taken longer than some of us liked, but he’s a damn fierce competitor. I don’t fault him for losing it as long as he gets it together in time.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 27, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coaches grades
much like the rest of you I have a hard time determining whether the coaches should get an A for the conservative plan or an F for being too conservative…at the end of the day though, the moral victory goes to the Bugeyes…I’ll take the W.
by pennst92 on Oct 27, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clarks's reaction may have been from the fog
I’ll give him a pass since he got his bell rung and half the time didn’t seem to know where he was.
As for the offensive playcalling, does anybody believe that Joe actually told them to open it up?
by PSU Mudder on Oct 27, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe he thought he was Batman?
and the guy on the opposite side of the field in the red sweatervest has to be some sort of criminal mastermind, right?
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 27, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I remember seeing that Hamburgler/Brutus comparison in a fanpost comment. Maybe that was the confusion.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 27, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shipley
can be seen asking Clarke how many fingers he was holding up, just after that bellringing.
pax et amor
by jtothep on Oct 27, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LALA Land
And Ohrnberger had to fix his chin strap for him.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 27, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the playcalling
was too conservative, it was a case where tOSU had a good gameplan and decided to bring a lot of pressure, and we didn’t always handle it well. Clark saw more pressure Saturday than he has all year long. Give him credit for not turning the ball over. I’m not worried about his reaction to being pulled, I think that was just his competitiveness showing.
by Joe 96alum on Oct 27, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see your points
I agree Clark is competitive and that’s good. But what good comes from sulking on the sideline? At one point I saw Jared Odrick trying to console him and calm him down. Instead of talking to the coaches and teammates about making adjustments and preparing for the upcoming biggest defensive stand of the season he’s bring the starting quarterback down from the ledge. How can anyone not say this was an uneccessary distraction?
Clark needs to be a man and accept the decision of the coaches and medical staff. When your teammates are on the field you put your ego aside and cheer them on.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 27, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bingo
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 27, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check out this picture of Clark
At the end of the game. Look at his face, he definitely had a concussion. Plus that guy holding his waist was with him all the way into the tunnel, they didn’t want him to talk to anyone because he probably would have said something like a drunk person would have like “woooooooo we won f*ckers, eat sh*t buckeyes”
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/da2bbb1e-a590-4b18-a0b6-ab1b84ab09af.jpg
by whiteoutonly on Oct 27, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why wouldn't they
want him on national tv saying “Eat sh*t buckeyes”? I mean SOMEONE representing the team should have been given the opportunity to do so. In fact, I think the only thing that would be better would be during the after game press conference for Joe to just look straight into the camera, whip out double middle fingers and say “YEAH! F**K YOU CORSO!”.
"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"
by nitwit86 on Oct 27, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that picture he was saying
It’s ok my house is right over there and I only had 2 drinks
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Oct 27, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just kills me
to see Lee on the sidelines in a god-damned golf shirt.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 28, 2008 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did anyone else see this article?
On ESPN.com: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3664559
What I found most interesting was this:
That’s why, with the score 3-3 at the half, Penn State came out and ran the ball right at Ohio State. On six of seven plays, the Nittany Lions ran the ball, and five of those six plays went between the tackles. The drive fizzled just past midfield, but Penn State made its point. “We wanted to wear them down,” assistant coach Jay Paterno said. “We knew we weren’t going to go out in the second half and score a lot of points.”
The plan didn’t exactly wow the boss. After the drive, Joe Paterno turned to his son and said, “For crying out loud, would you open it up?”
by PSU Jen on Oct 27, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some excellent points
There’s no getting around that we were more conservative offensively than we have been all year … but by midway through the 2nd, I just didn’t see any way around it.
This was a game where defenses dominated, but there weren’t many 3 and outs. Lots of drives out to midfield, and then punts downed inside the 20. And it’s not like there were a ton of incomplete passes to stop the clock. As the article mentioned, that cut WAY down on the number of plays run.
It was frustrating to watch the offense struggle, but there was never a time where I screamed, “C’mon, why aren’t we running [insert aggressive play here]?” Even in that last drive of the first half, I wanted us to take a shot at the end zone, but the tone of the game was already set. Getting the 3 was the right thing to do … just imagine if they’d have come up empty.
It was just one of those games that felt like it would turn on the first big mistake — and, in fact, it did. Granted, that mistake didn’t come until 9 minutes left, but it felt “late early,” and the coaches called the game accordingly.
by tuscaloosalion on Oct 27, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Playbook
The one play I really wanted to see:
Play-action / Tight End down the seam. OSU LBs were selling out on the run and blitzing often. I think Shuler (and especially Quarless if he knew the play) could have burned them at best and kept them honest at worst.
Also, I think Royster needed to be coached differently in the first half. OSU was too fast and committed to stopping the run for his patient / pick the hole style to be effective. In a game where every yard counts, he should’ve just just hit the hole as fast as he could much like Stephon Green was able to do.
by ShamefullyObsessed on Oct 27, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually
said the same thing to my girlfriend while we were watching. Royster’s great patience was backfiring because the holes were closing to fast.
by whiteoutonly on Oct 27, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That could be why
Green had so much success. They weren’t used to the explosive running style.
by GreatScawt on Oct 27, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your girlfriend
sounds hot….holes that close too fast – not hot!
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Oct 28, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was pretty obvious early on that both teams were playing well enough to win if the other team made a mistake. Lots of people think “mistake” means “turnover,” but it doesn’t. It also means “go three and out and hand the other team decent field position.” We could not afford to do that. Which means always take the easy yards and gain field position.
While I’m sure people wanted to see deep passes, or whatever, we needed the yards. I was a bit annoyed at the fact that they kept trying to get Williams rushing yards. Royster and Clark are better rushers than Williams against a team like OSU, and you’re not going to get OSU double-thinking on Williams in the backfield, especially when all you do is run when he’s there.
by Bleed Blue 'n White on Oct 27, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random thoughts:
Clark / receivers were slow on their blitz reads. It is hard to tell on TV but it seemed that we just were not getting to the vacated zones left open when OSU Blitzed. Other than that, I thought Clark played very well.
Devlin looked brilliant. He only had one throw but it was a TD if they did not grab the receiver. His reads are just a few split seconds faster than Clark’s. His passing is crisper also. I am not sure he has Clark’s tenacity at this time. I thought we made the wrong call on 3rd down and 5 on our last field goal drive. I was waiting to see Devlin fake the handoff to Royster and bootleg around the corner for a first down to end the game.
Penn State played nearly a mistake free game. Look at what our punter did…
I expected us to destroy them with our offense. Our D play far exceeded my expectations.
I hate to complain about the refs but they were pathetic. I can think of 2 late hits on the first two plays of the game, holding ALLLLL NIGHT LONG, a running into the kicker call, a push in the back. With the exception of one of the late hits on the first plays from scrimmage all these were easy calls but were not made. I heard some comments about the ball spots being poor also but I did not notice that. I would be the first to admit that we get our fair share of calls in most games but it is amazing how we always come out on the short side when we play Mich and OSU!
Peter
by psuboy on Oct 27, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Discussion on Devlin
I’m hearing a lot of praise for the way Devlin handled himself. I’ll admit it’s great he didn’t crap his pants or anything, but what did he do that was so impressive? He just handed the ball off to Royster and rode Shipley’s back on a few QB sneaks. His one pass drew a pass interference call, but it looked overthrown and behind Williams to me.
So just throwing this out to the group. What was so great about Devlin?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 27, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much just that he didn't crap his pants.
And didn’t let his gargantuan stones get in the way of the ball causing a fumble. I almost crapped my pants just watching him.
In all seriousness he did what was expected of him and nothing more but to me that’s impressive in and of itself, given the pressure of the stage and the moment.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He threw a beautiful pass
To Dwheels, that that fraud Donald Washington knew he was beat on (not the only time of the game, either). That was a touchdown, and it was beautifully executed from snap, to route, to protection, to pass, to penalty that prevented the TD. Washington is absolutely no Malcolm Jenkins, but he was savvy enough on that play.
And then there was Poise. As much as Pryor sounds like a blowhard, he does get it. Poise is all he talks about. Nowhere is it more important than in the Shoe, fighting your nuts off to go 9-0. Before all those (easy) handoffs to Royster, he had to control that huddle. And our offensive coaches, who weren’t exactly getting the plays into him in a timely fashion. I love the clips of him so calmly standing with the ref watching the clock run down before calling his timeouts.
pax et amor
by jtothep on Oct 27, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How 'bout another option?
Rubin for bailing their asses out.
There is a tractor in the parking lot, West Virginia license EIEIO. Your lights are on.
by leeharvey418 on Oct 27, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pathetic
Did anyone see the foxsports.com power rankings? Absolutely a bunch of scumbags.
by TheGunslinger on Oct 27, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While I think your use of the word "scumbag" is a bit overdramatic
I have to scratch my head at PSU dropping three spots for a win over OSU in Columbus while Florida moves up three spots for a win over Kentucky. Oklahoma State loses and they don’t drop any? Oklahoma gives up 28 points IN THE FIRST HALF and moves up?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 27, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think scumbag is fine...
If beating a Top 10 team at night on the road doesn’t move you up in the rankings, that sucks but ok. The teams above us had some pretty convincing wins so it’s fine. But losing ground to anyone else is flat-out stupid, especially to a team that just gave up 35 to Kansas State.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 27, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can they have LSU at 12?
What have they done to deserve a ranking that high? I mean, LSU didn’t lose to Troy when that game was postponed, but other than that I can’t see how using the methodology Fox claims to be using they could have LSU at 12. Oh wait, I double checked, LSU beat Appy State, too. That makes all the difference, not.
by Elihu on Oct 27, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. Scumbags is right on the money.
To have us 5th is assinine. That’s like one pollster had us ranked 6th late in the ‘94 season, which caused Kyle Brady to say "Must have been someone who’s ass we’ve whipped too many times." I mean this is just sheer negligence on their part.
by Ab4PSU on Oct 29, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CLARK
I was also disappointed how Clark handled not coming back into the game. I don’t want to use the term benched because a medical reason is not a benching. Clark did seem to come to grips with not coming back in and did cheer the team on. I just hopes he understands this a team effort not a group of individuals.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." -Joe Paterno
by pslion on Oct 27, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You have to remember
that since he was concussed, he might not have been in a rational state of mind. You have to think about it like he was drunk off his ass in that situation…I’ll give him a pass this time.
by whiteoutonly on Oct 27, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But remember
We saw a similar attitude after he threw the pick late in the Wisconsin game. He was sulking on the bench beating himself up over it. Once again his teammates had to settle him down. He took himself mentally out of the game and took his teammates with him. If you look at his facebook page today his status now says “Daryll Clark is Clearing up the fact that I was pulled out of the game because I was in LALA land on the sideline with a concussion, but i will be fine tho.” Why does he still feel like he has to explain himself? Or is he still not in a rational state of mind?
When Tiger Woods hits a bad shot he doesn’t dwell on it. He moves on and focuses on the next shot. That’s what makes him so great. When Tim Duncan is sitting on the bench he’s cheering on his teammates. That’s why he has so many championship rings. Clark has now twice shown me he has the propensity to lose focus when things don’t go his way. That’s a concern to me. We don’t need our alpha dog throwing a temper tantrum in the middle of a close football game.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 27, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was completely the other way on this one
Until I heard about this facebook thing. I have no problem with a competitor wanting to be on the field, and even freaking out when he’s been the starting QB all year and all of a sudden things are out of his control. But the facebook thing does show a little immaturity and selfishness. No getting around that.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 28, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still Unclear About LalaLand
What did he clear up, on that facebook page? Exactly? I can’t tell from this pasted quote…
pax et amor
by jtothep on Oct 28, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clark
He was fine. I think he initially got a little ticked off because he thought he was fine to play, and maybe he was a little confused at why he came out at first, but when you see him a few minutes after he was cheering and basically the top cheerleader out there…I’ll never forget the reaction he had when Lydell picked that ball off…he just wants to win, and I could see that in his face.
by TheGunslinger on Oct 27, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading too much into this
Clark was visibly upset when he was first pulled. But I saw him up cheering the team on during the last clock-killing drive.
This is fine. He got frustrated for a few minutes, then got back into gear as much as he could. Just about any player with any competitive spirit would be upset to come out of the biggest game of the year down by 3 points and with momentum following a turnover. He should want to be out there and pissed off that he’s hurt.
There’d actually be a problem if he wasn’t up cheering at the end of the game.
by gcdyersb on Oct 28, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im no lip reader
but it appeared that when the players were trying to calm clark down he said “I don’t remember the last drive”
by farrellpsu on Oct 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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