Hold On Loosely
Advancing the ball a bit from the Greg Schiano article below, it's rather amazing that the one storyline we haven't explored this season is the contract status of Joe Paterno. With the team's high-scoring offense and lofty national ranking, the Paterno story has been firmly strapped into the back seat of our collective consciousness. Perhaps then, it's only logical that it took a boring, 20-6 victory over a nondescript opponent to revive the situation.
Many people, myself included, believed that the ever-present conflict between Paterno and University President Graham Spanier -- haven't heard his name all season, have you? -- would eventually drag the football program through the proverbial mud, especially if the Lions on-field performance mirrored their off-field difficulties. Now, it seems the battle which loomed over the program for the past few years may never take place. And somehow, that is sad.
No matter how many times we have disagreed with his methods, we have always loved Joe Paterno. Actually, we have loved him for the very same reasons we occasionally don't -- he's fiercely stubborn, loyal to a fault, and is beyond comfortable with his belief that we don't know a damned thing about football. And no matter how many times we ran our own mental simulations on how the Paterno era would end at Penn State, whether he was fired, carried off the field after one last undefeated season, or dropped dead of a heart attack as the winning Penn State field goal sailed through the uprights, we never allowed any of the possible outcomes to look like this:
His ailment bothers him enough that he's spent a game and a half in the press box this season. He's been unable to run onto the field, which has been a symbol of his endurance.
He's been unable to make his way around the practice field without the aid of a golf cart. He's been doing his weekly radio show from his home.
After the win over Purdue, reporters were kept out of view while Paterno received help changing his shoes at the front of an interview room.
We never allowed those thoughts because they represented our greatest fear, even if a small, reluctant part of us silently believed this was the most likely outcome. The injuries are very real, very debilitating, and not going away.
This is The Great Sadness Nobody Wanted.
Paterno's pain is evident in his face and demeanor. Dr. Wayne Sebastianelli is never too far away when Joe is on the sidelines. Forget traveling to see recruits. We're way past that point. Now we are talking about not being able to leave home to do a radio show. And we're suddenly faced with the morbid scenario of whether it is indeed better to burn out than fade away.
The thing is, there is no fading away as the head coach of the #6 team in the country. And the only thing that can keep the nation from focusing on Paterno's health is the football team's continued winning. If they remain undefeated, the team will be the story. If Penn State should happen to lose at Wisconsin and Ohio State, late October and early November will be consumed with rumor and speculation about exit strategies, successors, and all of the other business that we've gleefully ignored to this juncture. The emotions, choices, and decisions will become even more complex.
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Every PSU fan should be working on MSU tickets
and should bring a camera. We won’t know it until the day after LOI day, but it looks readily apparent that game (and all those leading up to it) will be something to savor.
by PSU Mudder on Oct 6, 2008 1:06 PM EDT 0 recs
Got my tix already
That stubhub price from August doesn’t look too shabby now.
It’s apparent to me that something has been up since the offseason. With all of the talk of Paterno saying he would coach without a contract and Spanier accepting that answer and waiting for the end of the season to resume discussions, the issue seemed to fade away as the season started. But I think that before the opening kickoff, Paterno & Spanier reached a mutual understanding that this was to be Joe’s last season. And for noble purposes, they didn’t publicize it. The last thing Joe would want is for the focus of the college football season to be on him and not on his team. He doesn’t want to be a distraction to these kids.
I think it’s the last ride for JoePa, and my ass is going to be firmly planted in that seat in the Beav for the final curtain on Nov. 22.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
by 06Lion on Oct 6, 2008 1:19 PM EDT 0 recs
I've always thought...
that JoePa will live forever. I’m going to stubbornly hold onto that until something proves me wrong. He’s a fighter and it looks like things aren’t going to well with his health lately, but betting against Joe Paterno remaining head coach makes losers out of all of us.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 6, 2008 1:20 PM EDT 0 recs
That is why...
I have said since May that all I want for Christmas is my bowl trip….I have believed for awhile this was, one way or another the end of the road for Joepa. It is sad…I have studied the man, and his methods for a long time…I emulate the way I coach my high school team after him and to see one of my true heros go will be a tough tough day…you will see alot of grown men cry that day…myself among them.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Oct 6, 2008 1:24 PM EDT 0 recs
I mentioned
here the morning after the Pep Rally that he seemed awfully sentimental this time, discussing his hiring, the relocation of Beaver Stadium, stories of early teams – almost a chronology of his history here. He also spoke openly of this team winning a MNC after only 1 game. Very unusual, and totally out of character for Joe.
Instead of throwing his ‘Rally Shirt’ into the stands along with the players and Pep Squad, he said he’d "keep this shirt forever "
My family just looked at each other, and we all said “This is his last one”, but no one else in Rec Hall seemed to notice. We, however, remain convinced. This is Joe’s swan song, and he’s gutting it out to finish on top.
Enjoy this year, folks. No ‘Farewell Tour’ crap for JoePa. This, I’m afraid, is it.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Oct 6, 2008 1:24 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm with you, Pete
Everything from him, even on the sidelines, seems like a senior (in college, not citizen) absorbing it one last time. And it kills me, because Bobby’s going to continue to look like a rich donor that wandered onto the field and stick around for a few more. But if it has to end, I’m hoping we can at least send Joe out on top. Players, fans, alums, students, everyone owes him that, at least.
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on
Oct 6, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
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I was there also...
And had the same impression. And I am not sure, but I think the quote was something like, “I will hold onto this shirt for as long as I live.” I found it pretty jarring. And different than what he said at college football eve. That he would coach for the next 40 years.
by dontcallmescooter on
Oct 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
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Well, folks
Enjoy the ride. Here’s hoping the grand old man rides into the sunset.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 6, 2008 1:49 PM EDT 0 recs
Well. . .
I was having a good Monday. . .until now.
by The IC Lion on Oct 6, 2008 1:51 PM EDT 0 recs
No lie
That just got my ass online looking for plane and game tickets
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on
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Another Thought
I have also always silently thought this was the last season for JoePa. It was an interesting point that maybe he has already decided this with Spanier and that explains the lack of contract. That actually makes great sense to me.
To take that Idea even further, maybe only the team/staff knows this and that is why they are playing their asses off? I mean it would be hard to keep 100 some kids from blabbing, but maybe just a select group of seniors know. I think just as much as any other players he has coached, this senior class’s fate is intertwined with Joe’s, they are the ones who brought us back to relevance. He basically himself admitted to hinging this resurgence onto the recruiting of Derrick Williams.
Maybe Bradley has already been named coach also? Perhaps that is making it easier for Joe to leave, I have to think he would only want one of his own to take over for him and who better than the man who came here to play for Joe and then never left?
I don’t want to get too caught up in conspiracy theories, but I absolutely love the idea of D-Will and the boys sending Joe off into the sunset with another perfect season. Just to have Joe say “Surprise!, I’m done, Tommy is taking over now, see you at the stadium renaming ceremony.” Im a sucker for these types of things.
by Roland86 on Oct 6, 2008 1:53 PM EDT 0 recs
I think if the seniors know then Justin King would have been told
prior to leaving…I don’t think he would have left…
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on
Oct 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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Maybe
But I get the feeling this was something that developed well after King declared, but before that God-awful OTL piece aired.
Which would explain the lack of any serious University response to that hit job.
Just musing here…….
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on
Oct 6, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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MSU
RUTS and I are planning to attend this game, I would be shocked if it’s not his last home game as HC.
Probably turn the keys over to TB and let Jay run the show on O. Let that play out, if it works great…if not plan to see someone from outside. I don’t think TB/Jay will have a long leash, about 4 years to produce.
by SweepTheLeg on Oct 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT 0 recs
Also
I want to point out that it is a true testament to Joe’s mythical/superhuman status that the fact that an 80 year old man has arthritis and needs help changing shoes is big news.
And while Joe is notoriously proud, he is also quite honest. I feel that if there were worse problems to his health than this, we would know about it.
by Roland86 on Oct 6, 2008 2:05 PM EDT 0 recs
Along with Joe
I’m just taking this day to day. Granted, he’s 81, almost 82, so it isn’t quite the same, and recovery time is different, but the guy injured his leg. I know I’ve had plenty of knee injuries in my life, and I’m only 28. I know for a while afterwards I’m not the most willing to go running around and standing for long stretches of the day. Yeah, he also has the arthritis flaring up, but that is manageable, and perhaps once his knee heals up he’ll be back to his old self. Or maybe he’ll just decide to ride on the golf cart in practice and coach from the box for a few more years.
With that said, I wouldn’t be surprised if htis is his last year, but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see him back next year, as well.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT 0 recs
I spent good money on the Temple game just for this reason.
I hope now that we are going out on a winning note he can pick his own replacement.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Oct 6, 2008 2:07 PM EDT 0 recs
I had once thought
that we would go for a out of program hire for the next coach, but if this season is sucessful (hopefully MNC) we have to go with Bradley to keep the ball rolling. I don’t want someone to come in (like DickRod at Mich) and totally change the enviroment.
by whiteoutonly on Oct 6, 2008 2:09 PM EDT 0 recs
His belief that we don't know a damned thing about football
The perfect Joe Paterno quote.
All I know about football was gleaned from trying to figure out why Joe Paterno did what he did. If you roll with Joe Paterno everytime, you are right about 80% of the time. I am not a homer for Penn State, I roll with the odds.
Odds are, Joe Paterno is right, and I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about. If you agree with Paterno every time, you seldom sound stupid. That’s free advice.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Oct 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Sure we can't pay you for that advice?
It was so well articulated!
Convivite Nudem!
by jtothep on
Oct 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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That isn't really a true statement...
I have met Joe at coaching clinics, and he will speak with you…he NEVER came across to me as being an elitist, or a know it all…he may think the common fan doesn’t know anything (usually that is the case anyway) but he is more than willing to speak with a young coach…
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on
Oct 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
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yes yes
but you are speaking from a coach at a coaching clinic’s point of view. I think the statement about no one knowing anything about football was more directed towards the media and armchair quarterbacks.
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 6, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
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Beaver Stadium
Assuming this is Joe’s last season…I’d like to hear what everyone thinks regarding renaming the stadium Paterno Stadium…He already has the statue, but his naming belongs ontop of that Scoreboard.
PSU Softball
by QBsneak12 on Oct 6, 2008 2:15 PM EDT 0 recs
What about...
renaming State College: Joe, PA?
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on
Oct 6, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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I've thought about that before
but my alternate suggestions:
renaming University Park: Joe, PA
or (and this is currently my favorite)
rezoning Paterno Stadium (nee Beaver Stadium) into its own township complete with post office (I mean c’mon, it IS the third largest city in PA for 6-8 days a year), and naming that Joe, PA.
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 6, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium
was my original thought, but that sounds too much like the baseball field next door thesedays…the more I run it through my mind, it needs to be called Paterno Stadium…no questions asked…also, Joe, PA is an awesome idea!!
by pmm156 on
Oct 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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I'm not sure about other people
and I’m sure former Governer Beaver was a great man and all, but I wouldn’t think twice about renaming the stadium (after Paterno retires) if it were up to me.
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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Keep it the way it is
Does anyone think for one second Joe would want it named after him?
by ReadingRambler on
Oct 6, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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Counterpoint
most of the great people who have things named after them likely wouldn’t have wanted it that way. “I was just doing my job” etc. Well you know what? You did your job a heckuva lot better than anyone else. Here’s your stadium, enjoy!
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 6, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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I hope this doesn't come across as Holier than thou
I just have too much respect for Joe. The guy’s like the grandfather I never met and the whole bit. If he doesn’t want the stadium named after him, then that’s the way it should be. Being the lover of academics he is, I think Joe is probably perfectly satisfied with having a library named after him rather than a stadium.
by ReadingRambler on
Oct 6, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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I agree with you that the stadium should be renamed for JoePa.
But I really think he’s more pleased with the fact that a wing of the library was named after him and Sue. Remember, this isn’t Bear Bryant, Jackie Sherril, Barry Switzer, Tom Osbourne, Bobby Bowden, et. al who only coach football and attend fundraisers. If you remember the other piece ESPN did on Joe (The Season) Joe went to the school and the trustees after the 1982 National Championship and basically guilt tripped everybody into opening their wallets to donate to the school, so that Penn State could be number one in everything, not just atheletics.
by Ab4PSU on
Oct 6, 2008 11:45 PM EDT
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?
Will the MSU game with all possibilities of it being JoePa’s last game coaching break the attendence record?
by WETSU on Oct 6, 2008 2:26 PM EDT 0 recs
not last game
the last home game. don’t forget, we clinched bowl eligibility with the win over Purdue.
But yeah, I think with the suspicion of it being JoePa’s last game at home, there will be a lot of demand for that game, and also for the bowl game (potentially his last game).
I’m still holding out that he will be back. Besides, he has to coach through AT LEAST 2011 and go undefeated that year so that A) he can renew the rivalry with the Crimson Tide (unless we see them in a certain bowl game this year), and B) so he can have 6 decades with undefeated teams.
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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Also...
this pretty much guarantees that a 10 win season will get the nittany lions an at large BCS bid….
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on
Oct 6, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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It may be
that he won’t announce his retirement because he won’t want – if it comes to pass – an MNC to be tainted with a “It was given to Joe ‘cause it’s his last year” stigma, ala Tom Osborne of Nebraska in ‘94. Especially since it should have been Joe’s that year.
It may also be that I’m completely full of shit, which would be the very first time.
First time since 12:01 pm today, anyway.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on
Oct 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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Of course
’94 was pre-BCS, so please disregard previous comment.
Yes indeedy – I WAS full of shit. Sigh.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on
Oct 6, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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Full of shit to a degree
I do agree that the media gave Osborne that NC. Penn State was leapfrogged in the polls late that year after beating (Indiana?) and letting them score some garbage points late in that game. That band of cornhusker assholes made us the best #2 team in college football history.
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on
Oct 7, 2008 3:36 AM EDT
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Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium
was my original thought, but the more I run it through my mind, it needs to be called Paterno Stadium…no questions asked…also, Joe, PA is an awesome idea!!!
by pmm156 on Oct 6, 2008 2:34 PM EDT 0 recs
Beaver Stadium will prolly stay
After listening to his presser last week and hearing him reflect back on the history of Beaver Stadium I doubt he would want it named after him.
Love Joe, Pa, though!
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on
Oct 7, 2008 3:38 AM EDT
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He already has the library
and he gets College Avenue. The stadium remains the same, I bet he insists on it.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Oct 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT 0 recs
I think your right re: the stadium
but I wonder about the street. I kind of want Beaver Ave to be renamed because General Beaver wasn’t all that, but I’m also intrigued by the idea of changing Calder Way to Paterno Way
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on
Oct 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
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An alley?
You want to name an alley after Joe Paterno? What, are they out of parking garages?
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on
Oct 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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come on...
you know very well calder way is more than just “an alley,” it’s the heart and soul of that town.
if nothing else, it’s the gateway to the skellar;
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on
Oct 6, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
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yes
But if you walk down the entire length of Calder Way, it certainly smells like an alley. I’d prefer to not remember JoePA (assuming he is leaving) as an alley that people go to piss in.
by dawsonPSU10 on
Oct 6, 2008 5:58 PM EDT
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so I guess you will disagree with
Paterno (State) University?
The Commonwealth/State of Paterno?
The United States of Paterno?
None of these sound ridiculous to me ;-)
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 6, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
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Road name
I would think of anything, they’d rename Curtin Road to be “Paterno Way” (or the like) since that’s where the stadium is (or I guess University Drive or Porter Rd would be other options). Actually, what is the technical address of the stadium — whatever road that would is would be the best choice off hand.
by Laaaaazzz on
Oct 6, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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NC
What better way to end the Grand Experiement than with a NC game. I think I would really cry. Talk about pure poetry…
"Red, it took me sixteen years to get here. You play me, and I'll give ya the best I got."
by Touchdown on Oct 6, 2008 2:57 PM EDT 0 recs
it is kinda interesting
In pretty much every other sport, and even other years for Penn State, I generally want my team to win the championship for selfish reasons (and community selfish reasons so that I can cheer with friends). Something about this year, though, makes me root for the championship as a final chapter for Paterno’s legacy more than selfish reasons (though they still exist). Of course, when Paterno wins the National Championship again, and then continues to coach for a few more years, I’ll just have to continute to root for him to win the National Championnship again every year until he DOES retire.
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 6, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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And if you really want poetry,
how about we play Missouri? Remember, they were the team we beat in the 1970 Orange Bowl to finish undefeated for the second year in a row, and yet get shafted by the voters. God willing, it would be poetic to see Joe’s career come full circle and play in the Orange Bowl for a MNC and win against Mizzou.
by Ab4PSU on
Oct 6, 2008 11:39 PM EDT
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Here's to Joe
I definitely think the stadium should be renamed after him, but I’ve got to agree with jesse, I don’t think he would want it to happen. Anyway, I WAS a having a good Monday until RUTS posted this story, now I’m trying to figure out what it will be like not to see JoePa on Saturdays. Let’s get back to focusing on the positive, like 6-0 rolling into Madison. We can discuss this on January 9th after our trip to Miami.
by LIONHEAD2477 on Oct 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT 0 recs
carry him off the field
Do you think he will let the Team carry him off the field during the MSU game? How about after a bowl game? or will he be as stubborn as ever and walk off the field like he always does. Maybe they can give him a blue and white kool-aid shower :).
Also do you think the players realize this might be his last year? I know I am having a hard time believing it.
by jetskijoe on Oct 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Milk?
Does a body good, yanno
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on
Oct 7, 2008 3:39 AM EDT
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He may just be waiting until after the season to get knee surgery
A friend of mine waited a few years ago. It was painful as anything during football season just to walk around, but she knew once she had the surgery she wasn’t moving, period.
She moves around just as good today as she was before she got hurt. She’s as tough as they get this side of 81-year old onside-kicking coaches. With any luck, he’ll have surgery in mid-January.
by Aaron PSU on Oct 6, 2008 3:47 PM EDT 0 recs
My Grandmother
Who is not 80, but is in her 70’s had two artheritic knees replaced on a Friday, and was home from the hospital in less than week, and walking around again in less than a month. While I refuse to listen to sugery details, I understand that they have made light years worth of progress on the field of joint replacement, and her recovery has been a almost a miracle.
It could be a simple as that.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on
Oct 6, 2008 3:51 PM EDT
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I think Joe's problem is his Hip not the Knee.
Joe mentioned in one of his press briefings that the knee is fine. It’s arthritis in the hip.
I guess he could get a hip replacement but I think the recovery time is greaater then a knee replacement.
It’s a different mind set when you gt older. Doctors no longer think in terms of getting you well but instead think of managing the problem.
I’m sad to say but I think this season will be the end. I would have bet the house at the beginning of the season that Joe would be coaching 2 or 3 more seasons.
by ageing lion on Oct 6, 2008 3:59 PM EDT 0 recs
Emotion
Just the prospect of Joe leaving is really starting to eat at me.
All my life, I’ve spent my Saturdays watching that man, and hell, I’ve been around less than half his tenure. I revere him even more now that my family has season tickets. Look at what hes created. Think about where we all would be without him.
The morbid finality of this all scares the hell out of me, and when they carry that man off the field, be it 11/22 or 2 or 3 years from now, I’ll be balling my eyes out.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Oct 6, 2008 4:19 PM EDT 0 recs
totally agree
I almost was in tears this morning (I’m a 6’1", 240lb 21-year old) reading this post and thinking about this. My fondest memories of PSU football only have one common denominator. The fans around me change, the players change, I’ve changed, but Joe is always the constant in my experiences here.
by dawsonPSU10 on
Oct 6, 2008 6:06 PM EDT
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Dude
I’m 52, meaning Joe has been the coach since I was 10! My Dad is also an alum, and in my earliest memories of PSU football, Joe was the coach. There next to no opportunities to watch PSU football on TV in 1966 – all info was newspaper only, with sporadic radio broadcasts.
I was 12 when PSU ran the table in ‘68, beating Kansas in the Orange Bowl 15-14 when they got a 2nd chance to pick up the two point conversion. (The first was stopped, but Kansas had at least 12 men on the field). PSU intercepted Bobby Douglass 7 freakin’ times! They finished #2 that year, and again in ’69
I was hooked.
You’re 21, and I know what you’re feeling. Add another 31 years, and…….damn. This is tough for all of us.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on
Oct 6, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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Early Years
Here’s a nice recap of PSU football, beginning with Joe’s first year. Yeah, 5-5 in ‘66, but scroll down through the immediately succeeding years, and look at the teams we knocked off. It didn’t take him long.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_Penn_State_Nittany_Lions_football_team#1966_season
Joe had this program rockin’ from the git-go.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on
Oct 6, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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I think that kind of shows the scope of things here- people my age (22) feels as strongly about it as people 52 and every other age. Pete, I don’t know you, but I figure we probably have very little in common…but we can completely agree on what Joe has meant to the school, students, his players and community.
Needless to say, I’ll be in Paternoville before the Michigan State game. Whether it’s his last home game or not, it is mine- I graduate in two months- and I need to say goodbye.
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on
Oct 6, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
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Last year?
Failing health or not, I really think we’ll see JoePa coaching PSU in 2009. Especially if we finish strong and get to a BCS bowl.
I do think, however, that going undefeated and winning the BCS championship might encourage him to willingly hang up the rollled up pants. Maybe. But I could also see it renewing his enthusiasm.
by Laaaaazzz on Oct 6, 2008 4:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Makes you wonder
how he would have handled the time right after the 1994, 1999, and 2005 seasons if things had turned out slightly differently.
by The JuggerNitt on
Oct 6, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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I predict
Joe will announce to the team about 5 minutes before the bowl game and it will come out after at the press conference.
Talk about being fired up as a player, you gotta send Joe out as a winner.
by SweepTheLeg on Oct 6, 2008 5:48 PM EDT 0 recs
Good call
i mean, wow, if that wouldn’t get you the most fired up you’ve ever been, I really don’t know what would.
"Boy that student section now is up and really making a gigantic amount of noise. You see the sea of white, the white out. Well they are 2 minutes and 28 seconds away from the whiteout of the Buckeyes here tonight." - Ron Franklin
by rmcmillen50 on
Oct 6, 2008 6:03 PM EDT
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I don’t know if he’d do that. It would be one other distraction for the players going into a bowl game against a (hopefully) tough opponent.
by dawsonPSU10 on
Oct 6, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
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Yeah
But…it would get the team sooooo fired up, who wants to lose Joe’s last game?
Joe doesn’t care about the press/fan fare/etc….he always cared about the players/team.
I can only imagine that locker-room…wow
by SweepTheLeg on
Oct 6, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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1. So much for everyone who had their panties in a bunch thinking Spanier was going to fire or force out Joe. WRONG, and you were dumb for thinking this would happen. Joe is the university’s biggest fundraiser, and like it or not is the public face of the entire university. Spanier would have had his house firebombed if he tried to force Joe out. Now, if we went 2-10, I admit things might be slightly different, but no one would dare fire Joe and expect to keep any sort of approval rating.
2. Who annointed Schiano beside the media and some fringe fans? No one who wields any power, last time I checked. But the media is right – why pay Schiano for losing seasons when we can get a winner at presumably less cost?
3. RUTS, this is some of your best writing yet.
by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 6, 2008 6:48 PM EDT 0 recs
No Schiano
That dude’s fifteen minutes of fame ended two years ago
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on
Oct 7, 2008 3:40 AM EDT
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Don't count the old guy out just yet
He’s already making comments about how Tommy Prothro coached from the press box at Oregon State so I think he’s already seriously thinking about doing the same. Some post season corrective surgery on the hip by Dr Sebastianelli and he’ll be good to go in 2009.
As far as recruiting, he hasn’t done much of that in the last few years any way, and the 2009 class is just 7 shy of being completed.
by Cruising Route 66 on Oct 6, 2008 7:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Not so fast...
Having read all of these posts, I get the feeling that some of you think JoePa is on his deathbed. I predict that after a surgical procedure after the bowl game that he’ll be back for spring ball. I’m a retired 76 year old and I play golf with a lot of guys my age and older, many of whom have had knee and hip replacements, and they are still going strong. Hell, I’ve had both knees replaced and shoulder surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff, none of which sidelined me for greater than 60 days. (Miracles are being performed all the time). I haven’t lost any of my faculties and am still going strong. Paterno will recover nicely too after he corrects his problem. Trust me, he’ll return. He’s too damned stubborn and determined to quit just yet. I started rooting for these guys when Rip Engle was the coach, so I’m a dyed-in-the-wool N


