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Grading The Defense Against the Indiana Hoosiers

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The first rule of Project Mayhem is you do not ask questions.

After giving up 24 points and getting beat up on the final drive in Iowa, the defense was looking to regain some of that swagger before going into the Big Ten Championship game next week. Let's see how they graded out.

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Defensive Line

If there is a single word to describe the play of Aaron Maybin, it's mayhem. In fact that should be his name. Aaron Mayhem. No...Project Mayhem. Indiana tried everything to contain him including double teams, but his speed was too much to handle. I watched one play where Indiana called a running play to go between the right guard and tackle. They had a tight end lined up next to the tackle across from Project Mayhem. They snapped the ball and Project Mayhem ran outside the tight end, so the tackle released to the second level thinking Project Mayhem had run himself out of the play, but Project Mayhem just ran around the tight end like his shoes were stuck in quick sand and tackled the running from behind just as he was hitting the hole. Mayhem was wreaking havoc like that all day long and even managed to get a sack on the elusive Lewis.

Jared Odrick and Ollie Ogbu dominated the middle of the line of scrimmage. Odrick in particular had an outstanding game disrupting everything Indiana was trying to do. Josh Gaines tried to go on his injured ankle but had to shut it down after the first series. Eric Latimore and Jack Crawford platooned during the game at his vacated spot. They each held their ground but weren't very spectacular.

Maurice Evans showed signs of returning to his 2007 form, but he was practically invisible outside of a play or two. I may be wrong, but it's an observation of mine that he doesn't seem very interested this year. There is no bounce in his step, and when someone makes a big play like Rubin's interception or Hull's sack he doesn't celebrate or congratulate his teammates. Maybe it's nothing, but his uninspired play is undeniable.

In all the defensive line played a great game getting two sacks and holding Indiana to 123 yards rushing on the day (with 57 of those coming on one play.)

Final Grade: A

Linebackers

Outside of one play they were very good. You can blame that one play on Bani Gbadyu who blew containment by running inside and then completely whiffing on the tackle. This is why Bani Gbadyu doesn't play much.

Every week we wonder if the good Josh Hull or bad Josh Hull is going to show up. Bad Josh Hull showed up in the first half. He blitzed up the middle and disappeared somewhere in the mush of 300 lb. men never to be seen until the next play. He was futily diving at the ankles of Kellen Lewis as he ran past him up the sideline. He was hitting Thigpen five yards down field, and then getting dragged another three yards. But the good Josh Hull showed up in the second half. The coaches sent him on some delayed blitzes with success. I think this is good for him because he can pick a hole and attack it rather than hitting a gap that isn't there and getting swallowed up. Hull still wasn't getting to Lewis, but he rushed a few throws and forced Lewis to throw the ball away on a few occassions. He did get there once for, believe it or not, his first career sack.

Bowman was his usual stellar self always around the ball. I watched one play where he blitzed around the right tackle, but the play was a designed sweep to the left. Bowman ran across the field and tackled Thigpen along the sideline for a short gain. He along with Project Mayhem give the defense two disruptive players unlike any I've seen since the LaVar Arrington/Courtney Brown days.

Final Grade: B

Defensive Backs

It's hard to argue with the stats. Indiana only completed nine passes on 23 attempts for 57 yards and one interception. But in fairness, Indiana is struggling with injuries and doesn't really have many weapons on offense.

Mark Rubin may be our best defensive back. How many people thought you would read that on this blog before the season started? Time and again this year he has come up with big plays on defense, and Saturday he stepped up again. He made a great read and jump on the intereception. And later in the game on a crucial third down play he made an outstanding open field tackle on Kellen Lewis. Honestly, he tackles better than most of our linebackers, which is awesome and sad at the same time.

Tony Davis also played an excellent game making a few crucial open field tackles. I didn't notice anyone else, which is usually a good thing when you are a defensive back.

Final Grade: A

Special Teams

If there is an unsung hero on this team it's Nate Stupar. He's a one-man special teams wrecking crew. He got another blocked punt this week. And at the end of every kickoff you saw #34 getting off the bottom of the pile along with #42 Mike Mauti. It's going to be a fun spring watching these two guys fight it out for the outside linebacker spot vacated by Ty Sales after this season.

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Go for the ball? Protect the junk? Go for the ball? Protect the junk?
F&%k it. This is going to hurt.

Jeremy Boone averaged 51.5 yards on his two punts. Kelly missed a field goal but had a nice pooch punt down to the Indiana two-yard line. The kick return game was meh, but admittedly only got two attempts, and one of those went to Dan Lawlor.

Final Grade: B+

Defensive Coaching

There was a little feeling of "Oh crap, here we go again" in the early going, but they settled in nicely. Indiana only recorded nine pass completions and six first downs. The defensive line was very effective in their mush-rush to contain Lewis. Once he realized Indiana wasn't much of a passing threat, Bradley let the defensive backs play some man-to-man and cut the linebackers loose to blitz. Say it with me now, WHERE WAS THAT LAST WEEK? The stat sheet speaks for itself.

But there were still situations in third and long where they trotteed out the nickel back and backed the corners eight yards off the line of scrimmage. Like smoking in public and clubbing baby seals, this should be banned by the international community. But the end result was just seven points on a fluke play, and outside of that Indiana never really threatened to score. But considering the opponent, that isn't saying much.

Final Grade: B

What does all this mean for Michigan State?

Unfortunately not much. The Spartans are much more talented and physical than the Hoosiers. You can expect a steady diet of Javon Ringer left, Javon Ringer right, Javon Ringer up the middle next week. They're not quite one dimensional though. If Brian Hoyer is on his game you can call them one-and-a-half dimensional. If I had to compare them to a team we've played so far, it's Iowa. So, yeah.

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Glad to hear

you mention the Mauti/Stupar battle coming up. I still feel guilty looking forward to 2009’s front 7 with so much to play for this year, but at least I’m not the only one.

by jimbo2psu on Nov 17, 2008 7:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm with ya

The front 7 should really help ease the transition for the new DB’s next year.

I hope.

'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'

by Pete the Streak on Nov 17, 2008 7:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lee

Shouldn’t Sean Lee be back next year taking over his old spot? Meaning that Lee and Bowman would be the starters on the outside LB spots.

by Grapenapalm on Nov 17, 2008 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Lee in the middle

and Stupar/Mauti on the other outside spot.

by jimbo2psu on Nov 17, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that on the Stupar block also

I’m like, wow, he just blocked a punt with his balls.

by Screen Name 20 on Nov 17, 2008 8:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The HOLDING man the HOLDING

now I guess this comment will be bitching for bitchting sake but WTF…I realize that holding on the o-line has been in the big ten since well woody hayes shit his baby diapers…but come on, I guess it shows how good maybin (and I like the Mayhem) actually is b/c he was getting pulled down and tackled with the rest of the line…I mean it had to actually be a tackle for them to call anything and at that point it was so blatent they had to do something…I mean really this is ridiculous, granted we probably get away with some too, but come on…every play I watched some one on our D-line was getting grab and pulled down from behind….BT officials suck

by Lion Alum on Nov 17, 2008 8:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

MSU Game

My thoughts about the past few games and how they relate to MSU:

1) OSU game – On paper, pretty much the game of the year for us, and we played like it. Perfect gameplan, perfect execution, perfect atmosphere to “get up” for the game. Easily our best game of the year on defense, and the perfect storm on offense to get the job done.
2) Iowa game – Crappy weather, no football for the preceding two weeks, road game, possibly a feeling of “well the worst is behind us,” everyone already anointing us…pretty much the “bizarro perfect storm” game for us. Made every little mistake possible and left the underdog in the game for far too long. We all know how that turned out.
3) IU game – Eerily similar to the Iowa game, except earlier and at home. Almost like an extended letdown. Crappy weather, little HFA, and for the most part a pretty uninspired effort, likely due to the fact that hey had their collective hearts ripped out the previous week. Made the same types of mistakes as the previous week (even more so, IMHO), but ultimately it wound up as a superior team exerting their will over a far inferior team.

What does it mean for this week?

The optimist in me wants to believe that this is going to be OSU 2.0 (or 3.0, if you count the “other” OSU we played in week 2). This supplants the Buckeye game as our de facto game of the year, and now we have HFA to boot. Something is on the line here, against a team that we NEED to “get up” for, or we’ll lose. Not to mention there are apparently some kinda rumors going around regarding a certain octagenarian…

So here’s to hoping that:

3:30 Home game + Senior night + Rose Bowl + JoePa retirement?? > Still no NC + Ringer + Mopey Clark

I think it will be.

"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."

-Tony Hunt

by Cpiritual27 on Nov 17, 2008 8:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hull & Such.

I wonder if the defensive staff will start bringing him around the outside more rather than wasting him on the rush up the middle. He has a terrible time getting off blocks but seemed to be very quick on the outside. I don’t know how effective this will be against Michigan State, but it’s at least something to consider I think.

Also, Stupar might be the most fun player to watch in this whole team.

by Kevin HD on Nov 17, 2008 9:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Stupar

I really look forward to the kickoffs now. I used to cringe and peak through my fingers hoping we tackled them before they got to the 40. But now I love to watch Stupar blow up the wedge and smack some guy in the mouth at the 18.

by BSD on Nov 17, 2008 9:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm the same way

At kickoff, my eyes are now naturally searching for #34. It’s cool, I never used to follow one dude on pursuit before.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Nov 17, 2008 3:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

aww, you must be too young to remember

Terry Killens – he would get to the return man before the ball did – and wait, write a letter to his mom, think about what he was going to have for dinner, balance his checkbook and then drive the guy 3 feet into the turf.

by PSUgirl on Nov 17, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dag

PSUgirl, you’re on a nostalgic namedropping streak. I love it. I had forgotten about Terry Killens’ special teams prowess. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Nov 18, 2008 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ethan Kilmer in 2005 was fun

I remember the opening kickoff against Minnesota where he went down and planted Laurence Maroney at the 18 yard line. Kinda set the tone for the rest of the game.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 17, 2008 9:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is shocking that this game was his first sack

He has been used on multiple blitzes throughout the season in every game. I am not a big Hull basher but come on. It would be better to use a corner or another linebacker for blitzes and let him drop into coverage.

I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?

by psu on Nov 17, 2008 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

grades are too high

imo. Thigpen’s run wasn’t the only one that should have been contained and wasn’t. Indiana completed only 9 passes – but they were the same passes that everyone else is able to complete on us – msu backs that up with a sound running game and the “real feel” in the stadium plummets.

Special teams were the MVP – but let us not forget the 29 yard return that was ended by a Boone tackle -

I was not a pleasant person the first half.

by PSUgirl on Nov 17, 2008 9:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

We need some inspiration . . .

We’ve looked flat ever since the first half of the Michigan game. Im thankful that our defense has played as well as it has because our offense seems lethargic. Perhaps I was just looking forward to obliterating Indiana to get out some pent up frustration from the week before, and to regain some composure! Four weeks ago (after OSU) I wasnt worried at all about our chances against MSU, however, I must say im slightly concerned. This goes beyond weather, bad coaching, bad offense or any other excuse we’ve come up with the last couple of weeks. We need to get inspired again!!!!! I know this sound very philosophical, but isnt that what this season is about? Senior night + Rose Bowl + JoePa retirement.

by TITCUS on Nov 17, 2008 10:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

When did Joe starting sitting in up the coach's box?

Did the lack of sideline inspiration start when he moved upstairs?
Something seems to be lacking without his rolled up pants stalking the sidelines, his Brooklyn accent yelling at the refs and the players.

by NJ lion on Nov 17, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

halftime of Illinois

and we had a few good games after he went up there, and even seemed to be playing better for a while. Some were claiming it was because he was able to hear the discussion as to why certain plays were being called between Jay and Galen, and so he didn’t overrule as often.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 17, 2008 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, so maybe that's not the cause of the lack of inspiration

But it still sucks that he’s not on the field.
I guess we’ll have to get used to that scene one day for good. It’s like Christmas without Grandpa being there.

by NJ lion on Nov 17, 2008 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

did you check the pressbox?

Grandpa might be up there

what…you don’t have pressboxes at your Christmases?

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 18, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Michigan St. to Iowa comparisons

Probably the best comparison, except that Iowa defense >> Sparty defense. Granted this Sparty defense is better than in years combined (and is actually 25th in the country in scoring defense).

Ringer might have a case for being a better RB than Greene, though. Hopefully that isn’t the case. Also, hopefully the weather plays nice for us this time.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 17, 2008 11:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Very Similar to Iowa

I think the Sparty defense is better except for the front four. Iowa’s front four are much better. Which I think makes Iowa’s defense better overall. MSU also likes to give up big plays on defense. They gamble a lot and get burned a lot.

Greene is a better back than Ringer.

The only significant difference will be MSU’s receivers. They are significantly better than Iowa’s. If they catch the balls thrown to them MSU will be very effective on offense. WRs dropping passes has been an issue for MSU all year. Also, Mark Dell is a question. He is their best WR but has been injured and not playing.

I think Hoyer is better than Stanzi. He has better command of the game and is capable of getting the ball to his WRs. Last year he had 250+ yards against Penn State enroute to MSU getting 400+ yards total. I think he can duplicate that effort, but that is all about his WRs catching the ball.

I’m really expecting this to be a high scoring shoot out.

by DrDetroit on Nov 17, 2008 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"He made a great read and jump on the interception"

Yeah, also didn’t think I’d read that line describing one of our defensive backs in the bend but don’t suck defense.

It feels good to read.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Nov 17, 2008 3:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"Bend but don't suck"

I swear, I should get royalties for that one. I should put it on t-shirts, which would not be suggestive at all.

by Run Up The Score on Nov 17, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I just thought about the double entendre, and I don’t like it. I mean if there’s gonna be bending involved, wouldn’t you want some sucking? Unless it is bending the other direction, then I suppose there’s better things to be doing.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 17, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha! Indeed!

RUTS, I’ll gladly paypal you some royalties to see you rockin that tee.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Nov 18, 2008 9:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Project Mayhem

Love it!

pax et amor

by jtothep on Nov 17, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just Noticed the Pic Caption

But we need to all violate this rule. Repeatedly. In fact, the rule should be reversed such that:

The first rule of Project Mayhem is you must talk about Project Mayhem.
The second rule of Project Mayhem is you MUST talk about Project Mayhem.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Nov 18, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Those are the Fight Club rules

This is Project Mayhem and thus the rules go

1. You do not ask questions
2. You do not ask questions
3. No excuses
4. No lies
5. You have to trust Tyler

by BSD on Nov 18, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Got it!

Thanks.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Nov 20, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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