Blogpoll Ballot Week 13

by BSD on Nov 24, 2008 8:52 AM EST in Blogpoll

Here is my ballot for this week. Discuss.

Rank	Team	Delta

1	Alabama	1
2	Texas	1
3	Oklahoma	2
4	Florida	--
5	Penn State	2
6	Texas Tech	5
7	Southern Cal	1
8	Utah	--
9	Boise State	--
10	Oklahoma State	--
11	Ohio State	--
12	Missouri	--
13	Georgia	--
14	Oregon State	4
15	Ball State	--
16	TCU	3
17	Cincinnati	3
18	Michigan State	2
19	Brigham Young	5
20	Oregon	3
21	Boston College	5
22	Georgia Tech	4
23	Pittsburgh	6
24	Northwestern	2
25	Florida State	1

Dropped Out: Miami (Florida) (#21), Maryland (#22), LSU (#24), North Carolina (#25).

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This is the actual BCS, right?

:) Wishful thinking… this scenario would give us a good shot at the MNC!!!

by ilovejoe on Nov 24, 2008 9:07 AM EST 0 recs

Most Deserving 1-loss

I guess you think Texas is. Going to be a huge debate coming up baring any crazy upsets this weekend (fla loss, OU loss is a little more reasonable i guess). Talk amongst yourselves. . .

by The IC Lion on Nov 24, 2008 9:09 AM EST 0 recs

PSU Gets Screwed? Storm A'Brewin'. . .

How about this scenario:

— Fla/Ala wins out, wins SEC (very likely)
— Oreg. St. wins next weekend (likely)
— Mizzou plays hater, upends bigXII south rep in the title game (unlikely, but not impossible, i.e. Okla ’03)

In that case, there would only be 1 conference champion (SEC) ahead of Penn State in the BCS rankings as they stand today. Does anyone deserve to play for the BCS title that couldn’t even win their own conference? It’s happened before, and I hated it then too. I still don’t see PSU jumping to 2 in that scenario, so maybe for our own sanity we are pulling for the big XII south in KC in a couple weeks.

by The IC Lion on Nov 24, 2008 9:17 AM EST 0 recs

I call BS on myself. .

Utah. . . lame.

by The IC Lion on Nov 24, 2008 9:18 AM EST up 0 recs

well as many have pointed out

USC technically would have won their conference, just not their conferences automatic “BSC” (love you JoePa) bid. The same way that Ohio State is technically Big-10 champs this year as well. BS, I know, but them’s the breaks.

We basically have to hope that USC loses, or that they play less than stellar against ND and UCLA.

Then yeah, we need Missouri to win the Big XII, and probably some other Big XII south teams to lose. I could see one of their 1-loss teams that doesn’t go to (and lose) the Big XII championship game then going on to the National Championship game, like Nebraska a few years ago.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 24, 2008 9:26 AM EST up 0 recs

Don't get me started on the "co-champs" bullshit.

This isn’t 2002 where the Fuckeyes and Hawkeyes had identical league records and didn’t play each other. We played the Fuckeyes head to head, and won. On their field.

Let’s make a gentlemen’s agreement to not refer to “co-champs” here anymore. We’re not co-champs. We beat them. We’re Big Ten champs.

Period.
End of Story.
Fini.
Finito.

by Ab4PSU on Nov 24, 2008 11:34 AM EST up 0 recs

good luck with that agreement. . .

Go to Columbus and they are selling “3 Straight Big Ten Titles” gear. . .as in ’05, ’06, ’07

by The IC Lion on Nov 24, 2008 11:46 AM EST up 0 recs

If the roles are ever reversed

and we’re at the top of the Big Ten and have the same identical league record but lose head to head to the team we’re tied with, ALL of you have my permission to kick me in the crotch as hard as you can if you ever see my snivel enough to whine that we are “co-champs.” If we lose head to head, hope for a BSC at large, but we’re not co-champs.

Get over it, Fuckeyes.
We beat you this year.
Big Ten Champions.
By ourselves.

by Ab4PSU on Nov 24, 2008 12:28 PM EST up 0 recs

well, as much as I would love to agree to that

it still doesn’t change the fact that USC is also still technically Pac-10 champs, even though being conference champion isn’t even a requirement for the BCS National Championship game (but probably should be)

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 24, 2008 11:49 AM EST up 0 recs

No, it shouldn't

Conference championships are just one game. If Texas had run undefeated this year and then lost to a 2-loss Missouri, how is that worse than losing earlier in the year to a 2-loss team and winning the conference championship against, say, a 3-loss team?

Plus, in the Big 10/PAC-10, out of conference losses are only tiebreakers – which means that a team can be 10-1, losing a game against a conference opponent, and not be a conference champion even in favor of an 8-4 team (who lost all out-of-conference games) – even if the two teams never played each other.

You can’t boost conference champions up that much when the conferences have totally different methods of determining champions.

by Bleed Blue 'n White on Nov 24, 2008 7:07 PM EST up 0 recs

well

in that the are tiebreakers for who gets the automatic BCS bid, but it doesn’t break the tie as to who is the champion.

and I agree that the conferences having different methods of determining champions would have to be changed so that it is all uniform before using any sort of conference champion requirement for entry into the national championship game/playoff.

But along those lines it is also ridiculous that a team could play in a weaker/easier conference, go undefeated beating every team by few points, yet theoretically go ahead of a team that won all their games convincingly except for one game they lost by 1 point on the last play.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 25, 2008 4:08 PM EST up 0 recs

OrSU

that win .. looking better all the time…..

Ben and Alex... first commits for 2024

by 3Yardout on Nov 24, 2008 9:28 AM EST 0 recs

I like how you finally have put PSU ahead of USC

I guess you were just waiting for our big win over MSU to correct for your mistake of a couple weeks ago when you dropped us behing USC to begin with, even though all our wins look better than theirs. And yeah, their loss is to a higher ranked team, but both teams have 8 wins (OrSU 8-3, Iowa 8-4), so it can be argued that they aren’t THAT different in strength). Plus our whole better performance against common opponents, etc.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 24, 2008 9:29 AM EST 0 recs

Did you have Iowa #26?

I was looking for a spot for them, but it’s hard to wedge them in that 20-25 group without seeing a team that Iowa lost to.

by Cairo on Nov 24, 2008 9:47 AM EST 0 recs

here's mine

What a mess after the top 6

1 Alabama
2 Texas
3 Oklahoma
4 Florida
5 Penn State
6 U$C
7 Utah
8 Texas Tech – that was their first road test..way to pass it..
9 Boise State
10 Oklahoma State
11 Ohio State
12 Oregon State
13 Georgia
14 Mizzou
15 Ball State
16 TCU
17 Cincinnati
18 Michigan State
19 Brigham Young
20 Oregon
21 Ole Miss
22 Georgia Tech
23 Iowa
24 Pitt
25 Northwestern

by psu1313 on Nov 24, 2008 11:23 AM EST 0 recs

No. It's a mess after #1.

by Ab4PSU on Nov 24, 2008 11:30 AM EST up 0 recs

Here's hoping for a slew of upsets this weekend:

Auburn over Alabama
F$U over Florida
Oklahoma State over Oklahoma
A&M over Texas
ND over U$C (Then after losing at home to Syracuse, could ND even fucking beat Temple?)
How in the hell is Utah above us?
And, I know it was on the road, and Oklahoma was ranked 5th, but how in the hell do you get beat by 44 and avoid becoming the lowest ranked 1-loss team?!?

JoePa is right: This is the “BSC”. Who knows, even if the “computers” continue to fuck us (and computers are only as good as the data put into them) maybe we can get enough upsets we can get to #1 in the AP poll and have a split title.

by Ab4PSU on Nov 24, 2008 11:29 AM EST 0 recs

I would totally love to see a ND win over USC!

Not in a million years, but I’d love it.
Big Charlie would keep his job for sure and ND would continue to be horrible.

by NJ lion on Nov 24, 2008 2:00 PM EST up 0 recs

If all that happens this weekend

Oh man, I don’t even want to contemplate what I’d do.

by PSU Mudder on Nov 24, 2008 11:58 AM EST 0 recs

My top 10:

1- Bama
2- Texas
3- Penn St
4- Florida
5- Okla.
6- SoCal
7- Utah
8- Boise St.
9- TTech
10- tOSU

by Joe 96alum on Nov 24, 2008 12:36 PM EST 0 recs

That might be the most reasonable top-8 of any I’ve seen so far. (After that, chaos reigns and anyone who says they can make sense of it is kidding themselves.) I think you can make a case for flipping OU and Texas (in the Big XII South chaos, OU dismembered one of the other two and also has the best non-conference schedule out of the bunch), but there’s an argument for Texas ahead as well (based on having their gauntlet four weeks in a row and the loss being at the last second).

by SpartanDan on Nov 24, 2008 1:14 PM EST 0 recs