Bring On The Trojans

Ok Penn State fans. You got your wish. Oregon beat Oregon State in the Civil War, and we have likely avoided a dreaded rematch with the Beavers. But be careful what you wish for.
It's funny how perceptions change. On Friday, everyone dreaded a rematch between the Beavers and the Nittany Lions. They feared that Oregon State would be grossly overmatched just like they were the first time the two teams met in Happy Valley where Penn State spanked them 45-14. But today it's a different story. Today, after the events in Corvalis, Penn State is now the team that is perceived to be grossly overmatched against USC. We have gone from being the heavy favorite to the undeserving underdog over night.
So prepare yourselves, Nittany Lion fans. I'm telling you this now. Nobody is going to give us a chance in the Rose Bowl against the mighty Trojans. Already people are saying USC deserves better than a consolation prize. Even the USC players aren't giving us any respect.
"If it's not in the national championship game, yeah, it's a disappointment," Maiava said. "But this is what we do. We win the Pac-10 and then own the Rose Bowl. That's our thing around here."
So just prepare yourselves now. Don't flood the USC message boards and blogs, because they don't care about you. You're just another moron Big Ten fan who thinks their team is going to beat them just like Iowa fans in 2002, Michigan fans in 2006, Illinois fans in 2007, and Ohio State fans in 2008. They are just as excited to play Penn State as we were to play Oregon State again. You're not going to change that.
So my advice is don't let it piss you off. Just soak it in. Let the media tell us we don't belong in the BCS. Let them tell us we don't deserve a game against an opponent as fine as USC. Let them tell us the Big Ten is slow and behind the times. Just let them say whatever they want to say, because it puts us exactly where we want to be.
Underestimated.
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please beat them by 40
and somebody get that quote to JoePa for Bulletin material.
As a Texas fan, we are screwed…
We get to play Utah or Ohio State. Yuck…
45-35
by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 5:29 PM EST 0 recs
Dude
Don’t sell Ohio State short. They are a much better team than the one that got blown out by USC. With Terrelle Pryor and Beanie Wells they can score. But I do think your offense can score on their defense.
Mike
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by BSD on
Nov 30, 2008 5:34 PM EST
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I am just dissapointed
that our conference championship will involve two teams that we beat.
I am sure that if we play Ohio State that I will refocus and get ready for a great game.
(we need revenge on them after 06).
Again, good luck with USC.
45-35
by Hook'em13 on
Nov 30, 2008 5:42 PM EST
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That is total crap
So much for the regular season being a playoff.
by speedomike on
Nov 30, 2008 5:54 PM EST
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I can see that
Whoever came up with the idea to award the division championship to the highest ranked BCS team is a moron. Why let voters and computers decide something like that? There are so many other ways to decide stuff like that by using on the field results. To take it out of the players hands like that has to kill you as a fan.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on
Nov 30, 2008 6:09 PM EST
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Moron indeed
This seems like nothing but a punt by conference officials.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on
Nov 30, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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Agreed.
Worst. Tiebreaker. Ever.
All your base are belong to JoePa.
by mushdamma on
Nov 30, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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To be fair
It’s like the 6th tiebreaker. Every other one addresses on the field results.
by speedomike on
Nov 30, 2008 6:47 PM EST
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Actually
5th.
The 7th tiebreaker is actually a draw. Wow.
by speedomike on
Nov 30, 2008 6:50 PM EST
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I know, really!!!
at least they don’t decide the 2 teams to play in the National Championship that way…oh…wait
Morons.
by The JuggerNitt on
Nov 30, 2008 7:38 PM EST
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Hey, our conference champion is a team we beat too...
…I couldn’t resist.
Oops Pow Surprise: "I'm stuck writing at the Titty Barn."
by Hawkeye State on
Nov 30, 2008 10:12 PM EST
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1986 all over again
Your last paragraph is very smart advice that EVERYONE on this blog would be wise to follow.
by NJ lion on Nov 30, 2008 5:33 PM EST 0 recs
Probably a good idea
I’m a little steamed by some of the crap I’m reading about USC being bored by the Rose Bowl and blah blah blah, but yeah I’m fine with USC thinking what they want to.
by speedomike on Nov 30, 2008 5:55 PM EST 0 recs
I think this is perfect.
USC is bummed about having to settle for us in the Rose Bowl, and pretty much admit it. Yeah, they have to actually show up to get the win, but that’s about it. Just another Little Ten formality.
They won’t prepare with enthusiasm. They’ll constantly be thinking coulda, woulda, shoulda – Coach included.
I’m certainly not upset at reading all that crap. Quite the contrary; the more bulletin board material, the better.
Our guys will be jumping out of their skin prepping for this, and Bradley has a month to plan it out. I actually expect to see some man coverage and crazy blitz schemes.
This time, PSU has nothing to lose. No Big Ten title to worry about, resulting in puckered up offensive calls. Everyone thinks we’re a bunch of slow black white guys. (WTF does that mean? I don’t even know, and I typed it.). You get the idea. We’re toast.
I like everything about this.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Nov 30, 2008 6:17 PM EST 0 recs
the only problem with this
is that when we beat USC, everyone will just say “oh, well they weren’t playing their hardest because they were bummed about not going to the National Championship game”
Obviously that’s the quality that the media likes to have in their champions (just look at how much time they spend on Randy Moss and Terrell Owens, 2 of the best examples of “taking games off” attitude)
by The JuggerNitt on
Nov 30, 2008 7:42 PM EST
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That's fine
I’ll take the win any way I can get it.
Mike
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by BSD on
Nov 30, 2008 7:52 PM EST
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Incidently
They say the same thing about Georgia and Florida whenever they lose their bowl games. They just didn’t care.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on
Nov 30, 2008 7:53 PM EST
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Don't forget Tennessee, also.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on
Nov 30, 2008 8:05 PM EST
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they also throw games -
to “punish” their coaches – it’s amazing how much control these kids have.
by PSUgirl on
Dec 1, 2008 9:37 AM EST
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All teams, really...
The media, by and large, are like a flock of sheep. They all just go along with whatever the prevailing speculation of the day seems to be. For example, the OMGSEC is still awesome, despite it sucking. USC is untouchable, despite losing to a team we wiped our asses with (I know I know, there is a lot of other stuff to talk about there, but OrSU deserves to be part of the discussion too, so USC should be considered at least, ya know, touchable). Florida isn’t undefeated, they are not infallible, but most would have you believe Alabama doesn’t even stand a chance against them next week. Florida was awesome a couple years ago, they put up 70 on The Citadel, and just spanked Florida State. Never mind Florida State being average, it’s a rivalry game! Throw out the records!!! Why throw out the records? Hell I don’t know but that’s what everyone else says!
By the way, I heard the Big Ten really blows. I think, because of that, we should declare all Big Ten teams overrated and sucky, despite anything objective or actual on-field performance. I don’t like to base my opinions on the football itself, because GOD FORBID that could bring me to a different conclusion than everyone else!!! Then I may be forced to back up my own opinion or something, and after all….I don’t really know that much about football anyway……..
Bring on USC
by jimbo2psu on
Dec 1, 2008 9:32 AM EST
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um, do you really want to touch a used Trojan that got creamed cuz of a Beaver?
by The JuggerNitt on
Dec 1, 2008 11:47 AM EST
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Oh... Dear... God...
I don’t quite know whether to applaud or vomit.
There is a tractor in the parking lot, West Virginia license EIEIO. Your lights are on.
by leeharvey418 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:23 PM EST
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"Settling for the Rose Bowl"
Than why don’t they just not go. Say “thanks for the invitation, we’re honored, but we’ll pass.” Notre Dame did it a bunch of years ago (back when they were decent enough to do this kinda stuff). Their record was good not great, and some smaller bowl invited them to play and they said “thanks, but if we can’t be in a big bowl, we’ll stay home instead.” (This is about the time my strong dislike for ND became a hatred.)
Maybe USC should let one of its Pac10 brethren go to the Rose Bowl (if they’re so bored with it) and they can sit around and see if someone better invites them to the prom.
by NJ lion on
Nov 30, 2008 9:29 PM EST
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well, they can always throw their game against UCLA
if they really care that much.
by The JuggerNitt on
Nov 30, 2008 9:35 PM EST
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I remember that
I think it was the Independence Bowl. They asked Charlie last week if he would do something similar and turn down a lesser bowl. He basically said no way. They could use the extra three weeks of practice.
Returning to Glory indeed.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on
Nov 30, 2008 9:41 PM EST
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I can't wait to see the line on this game.
Jeff McLane from the Philadelphia Inquirer is already predicting that USC will be a 14 point favorite. Thing is, I want us to be a heavy underdog.
Nothing would be more satisfying than facing on an over-hyped media darling and punching them right in the mouth all night long.
“Did the Japanese eat with Pearl Harbor before they bombed them?!”
“Didn’t the Japanese lose the war?”
All your base are belong to JoePa.
by mushdamma on Nov 30, 2008 6:18 PM EST 0 recs
RIP, Mr. Bruno.........
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on
Nov 30, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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I think McLane is way off here
His quote:
I’m guessing the Trojans open as 14-point favorites. Maybe even higher.
Last year’s spread (USC-Ill) was 14 if I remember right, that after Zook snuck into the thing.
I know there were early lines out before the Or State loss that had PSU +7. I think it’s going to be very close to a one touchdown line with USC getting a lot of the action.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on
Nov 30, 2008 7:39 PM EST
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McLane's Opinion Will Be Popular...
When the line opens right around 7. USC will be a huge public favorite at a number in that vicinity.
I do think it will be interesting to see if the action will be large enough to move the number around. I don’t think it will, which would be a good sign for PSU.
Whether USC likes it or not, this match-up is likely going to be the 2nd best BCS bowl in terms of storylines and public intrigue.
by Kunk on
Dec 1, 2008 10:03 AM EST
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It has more to do with the venue than us
If a BCS bowl game was held in Belfonte, and Penn State had played in it 4 times in the last however many years, we’d be pretty dismayed too no matter who we played.
Stewart Mandel says this is an intriguing matchup, but whatever.
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 30, 2008 6:35 PM EST 0 recs
Oh, and another thing
It seems like people are saying we don’t deserve a lot of things.
Don’t deserve to be at the championship game.
Don’t deserve a Rose Bowl.
Soon, they’ll be saying we don’t deserve to play a SEC or Big 12 team at all.
by Mr. Rosewater on
Nov 30, 2008 6:40 PM EST
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In my mind, all of this talk...
continues to build up the home-and-home with Alabama coming up. GAWD I can’t wait for that….
by jimbo2psu on
Dec 1, 2008 9:35 AM EST
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However....
If Alabama hits a skid between now and then we’ll be looked at as scheduling a cupcake. Like PSU should have KNOWN this was happening….
by PSU Jen on
Dec 1, 2008 10:39 AM EST
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“If it’s not in the national championship game, yeah, it’s a disappointment,” Maiava said. “But this is what we do. We win the Pac-10 and then own the Rose Bowl. That’s our thing around here.”
fuck this guy. if he wanted a championship he shouldnt of lost to OSU. i cant wait for this game. I live out here and if we win, i get to gloat and brag for a least a year, probably longer, much longer.
i think we can do it. we got the balanced offense and usually can stuff the run with the best of them. We’re going to have play a heck of a game and D Clark gots to have his swagger if full force.
We are not normal...WE are Legends...We are PENN STATE!
by hawaiipennstatefan on Nov 30, 2008 6:57 PM EST 0 recs
Thanks, Mike
So my advice is don’t let it piss you off. Just soak it in. Let the media tell us we don’t belong in the BCS. Let them tell us we don’t deserve a game against an opponent as fine as USC. Let them tell us the Big Ten is slow and behind the times. Just let them say whatever they want to say, because it puts us exactly where we want to be.
Underestimated.
I was about to write a fanpost saying the same thing. You saved me the trouble.
This is awesome. All the hype about “Don’t mess with USC in big games” yadda, yadda. All the hype is gonna be just that. Hype. Worthless and pathetic. USC is dead meat.
I can’t effing wait.
JoePa for governor
by ReadingRambler on Nov 30, 2008 7:45 PM EST 0 recs
PSU
Has a huge base in SoCal.
I spent alot of time out there, lots of alumni and more PA transplants than you can imagine.
by SweepTheLeg on Nov 30, 2008 8:25 PM EST 0 recs
U$C can kiss my ass.
Who in the fuck do they think they are?!? Who have they played? Through yesterday’s games their opponents have a combined won/loss record of 63-66 with a winning percentage of .4883721. Their schedule is nearly identical to ours: They’ve played 5 teams with winning records and one team at .500. That is exactly the same as us. Our opponents won/loss record is 71-73 with a winning percentage of .4930556. So how in the hell are they so superior to us? Their schedule includes games against a team with only 2 wins (Washington State) and a team with 0 wins (Washington). What makes them so superior? I got a feeling this game will be like our last bowl game against The Volunteers (they volunteered to get their asses beat): U$C will be surprised by OUR speed, and they won’t have the stomach to stand in their and fight. I hope AQ, Wisky, and the rest of the offensive line blast their fucking asses.
Game on, bitches.
by Ab4PSU on Nov 30, 2008 9:49 PM EST 0 recs
Actually...
Don’t misread SC fans’ reactions about the possibility of a Rose Bowl berth against Penn State. A lot of us had assumed that Oregon State had the Pac 10 berth in the bag, and were looking forward to a possible at-large bid as a source of an interesting game that we hadn’t been expecting once it was clear that SC wasn’t going to get within 2 time zones of the national championship game – i.e., about 10 seconds after SC’s loss to Oregon State.
I’ve been eye-balling the teams’ comparative stats for the season and on most offensive categories the teams are within +/- 10% of the other’s totals. Defense shows a slight but distinct edge for USC.
It doesn’t mean much because there are only two opponents in common, but it does suggest that a Penn State – USC Rose Bowl could be a tense, close-played classic that either side could win. That’s something to look forward to in my book, but not unless SC beats UCLA.
by DC Trojan on Nov 30, 2008 9:58 PM EST 0 recs
Fair enough
I can’t blame USC fans (or players) for wanting something other than the Rose Bowl. A few weeks ago, Penn State fans were pretty disappointed with “settling” for the Rose Bowl too, because we thought we had the tough part behind us…so I’m sure it would be that much worse if we already played there for the last however many years in a row. I just don’t like when fans act like the game’s outcome is a foregone conclusion. A few weeks ago, Penn State fans were pretty disappointed with “settling” for the Rose Bowl too, because we thought we had the tough part behind us. It’s just that all of this Big Ten SUX ROFL LOL LOL gets annoying.
by jimbo2psu on
Dec 1, 2008 9:44 AM EST
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I look forward to the matchup
I think I speak for a majority of Trojan fans out there that Pete Carroll and JoePa on Jan 1st in the Rose Bowl would be a great game. Penn State would be the best team that we would face this year, and a good test for our defense. We still have some business to attend to with ucla, and barring a monumental upset, I look forward to the Rose Bowl against you guys. May the best team win.
by frak on
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Sorry, I only understand winning %'s when they're to the 8th decimal
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Nov 30, 2008 9:59 PM EST 0 recs
Another rant, but a general one.
College football has become a joke. I don’t care how impressive Oklahoma has looked in the last five weeks. How in the hell are they ahead of Texas when Texas beat them head to head. Don’t get me wrong; I hate both of them equally (Texas because of Tricky Dicky Nixon in ‘69, and the Sooners for the ’86 Orange Bowl). This is an absolute disgrace. Herbstreit was saying on TV tonight that even with this, there won’t be any playoff because the conference commissioners don’t want one, regardless of what the fans want, the players want, or the controversy involved. I know nobody has the guts to go along with this, but the quickest way to bring about a change would be if fans would just boycott all college football for one weekend next year; don’t use your tickets (it would kill me, but if it’s for the greater good, you have to make a sacrifice), don’t watch any football on TV, and don’t buy any merchandise. If the $$ stops flowing, that’ll make these corrupt bastards take notice. All this is about is the bowls protecting their games and their money; it has nothing to do with tradition, what’s good for the game, or what’s good for the student athelete. People argue that the controversy is fun. Yeah, unless it’s your team that’s getting fucked. Look at us. Why aren’t we in the running for #1 with all the other one loss teams? We had one bad quarter on the road in inclement weather. We didn’t get hammered by 44 points like Tech. We didn’t give up 45 points like Oklahoma. We didn’t lose at home by a blocked extra point to a team with a record hovering around .500? This whole thing is absurd. This is as big a joke as figure skating (Tonya Harding & Nancy Kerrigan, anyone?) and boxing (Roy Jones in the 1988 Olympics ring a bell?).
My dad summed it up best after 1994: They might as well put the national championship trophy in a urinal and let people piss on it because that’s all it’s worth.
by Ab4PSU on Nov 30, 2008 10:01 PM EST 0 recs
I agree....
But I disagree on the boycott.
The reasons I wouldn’t boycott tickets or games or whatever is because college football is very much the best “in the moment” sport in the world. It combines that nostalgia from spending years at your alma mater (or just your favorite team) and adds the world’s best tailgates, gameday atmosphere, home crowds, etc. It would be damn near impossible for me to not watch or attend a game that I had the opportunity to see.
That said, this championship based on speculation thing is just the biggest face on the planet. To put it in perspective, we might as well send the Giants and Titans to the Super Bowl now because they have the best records. How stupid is that man…championships are won in the post season.
Anyway, I feel like there is a way to set up an 8 team playoff using the existing BCS stadiums. Meanwhile, the lesser bowls could be played out like normally, inviting the teams that are top 25 caliber but don’t qualify for the elite status. This allows teams to keep playing in the post season (bowl payouts, etc) but rewards the one-loss teams with a chance to slug it out LIKE THEY DO IN EVERY OTHER SPORT!!!
However, there’s a sure chance a crappy conference like the ACC doesn’t have a team to send to the orange bowl and the conference loses that bowl-tie-in money. That’s why the conferences don’t want to do it. It also puts additional pressure to have a conference championship game….something with its own pros and cons.
In essence, you hit the nail on the head. Playoff = less guaranteed money.
Even though it ended up being a decent game..how disappointing was it to play a 4 loss FSU team in 2005/06? I know we were feeling like we could play anybody in the country that year. This years equivalent would have been playing OrSU again this year. At least this year we get to prove something in a game that won’t result in a total lose lose situation (depending on if we win or lose of course).
by Artiefufkin10 on
Nov 30, 2008 10:52 PM EST
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you don't have to lose the guaranteed money for the conferences
if you just use the 6 BCS conference champions and then fill in the other 2 spots with at large bids, or add one more week and you could use ALL conference champions and fill in with 5 at large teams.
Obviously there would be problems with weaker conferences getting representations in that latter model, but it would also help out really tough conferences where the teams really do beat each other all up by at least guaranteeing their champion gets in (imagine if one conference actually had the top 8 or 10 strongest teams in it. It would be really quite hard to escape that schedule with 0, 1, or even 2 losses)
by The JuggerNitt on
Dec 1, 2008 8:06 AM EST
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Here's my formula for a playoff, and it's the best one I've heard of:
The only teams eligible for the playoffs are conference champions. Period. No at large bullshit. That means the holier than thou scum in South Bend has to join some conference. No more BCS bowls for a 9 win season. Nine wins doesn’t get you into a BCS game from one of the major conferences. So that ends the ND horseshit. If you can’t win your conference, you don’t belong in a playoff. And if you’re in a conference division that’s “stacked” like the Big XII south, oh well. Win your division. By including all FBS (Div I A ) schools, none of the conferences are losing money. All conferences, no matter how inferior, are included.
Next, teams can schedule meaningful out of conference (OOC) games. If Penn State loses to Alabama in September, it doesn’t hurt anything, plus it’s better than us playing the Chanticleers. A loss like that doesn’t hurt because it’s not a conference game. But this type of game can be useful: Have no rankings until the first week of October, and use the rankings to establish seedings and first and second round matchups. The bowls won’t lose out because you keep the bowls, but have a round or two of the playoffs on somebody’s home field. That helps keep the regular season relevant, eliminates ALL elite programs from scheduling a bunch of wealklings, and toughens them up for later in the season.
by Ab4PSU on
Dec 1, 2008 10:13 AM EST
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But on the other hand...
Teams may continue to schedule cupcakes because they wil be used as warm-ups/scrimmages before the all-important conference games start. Plus it won’t hurt any strength of schedule arguments.
I do agree with the formula: make 8 conferences and only the winners go to the playoffs.
by NJ lion on
Dec 1, 2008 12:10 PM EST
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But strength of schedule can be used to determine rankings and seedings.
If you want to have a game or two on your home field, you’ll schedule a big time school or two to get the bonus points. If you lose that game, you’ll still be in the playoffs, but you’ll just have to go on the road. That’s why no rankings come out until October.
by Ab4PSU on
Dec 1, 2008 12:35 PM EST
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You've apparently got this all figured out
Now you just gotta make this happen.
And by the way, how do you REALLY feel about ND?
by NJ lion on
Dec 1, 2008 12:54 PM EST
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c'mon
how could you reference Tonya Harding in figure skating, and then reference boxing but not mention Tonya Harding again?

As for the boycott, I agree that it would be effective if you could get people to go along with it, but I don’t think that quite an organized move would really happen. You’d have to convince quite a lot of obsessed people to not do what they love doing. Also: what else would we do on Saturday? (or Wednesday and Thursday if you are in the Big East or MAC)
The better idea would to boycott the BCS bowls, but that would be even harder to convince people to do, especially if their team doesn’t make it very often.
What sucks is that we’re stuck in this state that is “better than bad”, but could be improved, unfortunately it will take time, effort, and money, at least initially, to improve it, and since they’re making money by the truckload right now they have no incentive to change it. “Don’t mess with success” as the saying goes. If only they just did the right thing back in the late 90s and went to a playoff format to begin with. Hopefully they’ll add a 1 game soon, and then that leads to a +2 (rounds….3 games) and then a 3/7
by The JuggerNitt on
Dec 1, 2008 8:01 AM EST
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I'd boycott during the Eastern Illinois weekend next year
boy, our schedule is a real snoozer next year [yawn]
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on
Dec 1, 2008 9:35 AM EST
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Stoked
I’m stoked with the USC matchup. Penn State may not be in Miami, but to be considered among the best, you need to beat the best. USC arguably has been the team of the decade. A W over them, while not as big as a national championship, would do wonders for taking back those Hazletons, Pryors, Hennes, etc. that have gone through the blue and white fingers this past decade. While I wouldn’t trade most of the guys who wore blue and white (class and integrity over a five-star anyday), I can’t help but think the staff could turn the most outspoken recruit into a humble, Williams-esque player.
by MainLion on Dec 1, 2008 12:04 AM EST 0 recs
I have seen both Penn State and USC play this year
In my humble opinion, Penn State is the best TEAM in the country.
Florida, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Texas can all put up points. But they can’t defend.
USC is the anti-offense. Their offense sucks, but man can their defense rock.
Penn State has the rare(?) combination of both
They took one game off, and are paying dearly for it now
I support takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on Dec 1, 2008 1:21 AM EST 0 recs
I agree for the most part
but I would argue that Florida can play defense as well (or maybe it was just the luck of going against all those SEC teams with weak offenses). And while USC’s offense hasn’t been as good as it has been in recent years, they’ve hardly been bad, let alone “sucked”
by The JuggerNitt on
Dec 1, 2008 8:12 AM EST
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Lets see, according to NCAA division I-A statistics, USC is ranked 16th in total offense while Penn State is ranked 15th. So yeah, CLEARLY SC sucks on offense while Penn State is a world-beater on offense.
I think it would be more accurate to say that SC has been “inconsistent” on offense this year. I honestly believe a lot of that has to do with moronic play calling by the OC.
by RCollier27 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:24 PM EST
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I think a lot has to do with perception and recent performance
Though when I actually looked through the numbers, USC wasn’t so hot on offense last year or in 2006, either (good, just not great). They’re actually doing better this year.
It could also be the inconsistent part.
by The JuggerNitt on
Dec 1, 2008 1:19 PM EST
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I shouldn't have used "suck"
It just pails in comparison to their defense
And I also suppose that we all expect Bush/Leinart/Jarrett every year on offense now from USC, and it hasn’t happened yet so I consider it to be bad. After looking over the numbers, I see that I’m wrong
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on
Dec 1, 2008 3:25 PM EST
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I don't think this has been said yet
Bill Plaschke is a windbag!
by psu1313 on Dec 1, 2008 8:44 AM EST 0 recs
Seriously
“They needed a Fiesta against a high-scoring Big 12 team,” – Yea, b/c that worked out for USC real well the last time.
by jonbeav on
Dec 1, 2008 9:18 AM EST
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Times like this, I miss FJM
They always tore Plaschke apart….
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
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