Grading the Offense Against the Iowa Hawkeyes

(AP Photo by Charlie Neibergall)
This isn't going to be pretty. Let's just get to it.
Quarterbacks
Daryll Clark had his game of the season. There is no other way to put it.
From the opening series he seemed tentative and unsure of himself. He seemed like he was struggling with his reads, his timing was off, and he often overthrew his receivers. This is a problem that has plagued him all season. This week it finally bit him with the interception in the redzone. Jason Avant had an eleven-foot-tall imaginary friend named Tacopants. Derrick Williams must have an eleven-foot-tall imaginary friend as well. Any ideas on what we should call him?
You have to feel sorry for the kid. It was hard to watch him being interviewed after the game. He manned up and took all the blame for the loss. You have to admire him for that. Sadly, he's correct in that his play was a large part of the reason we lost.
Final Grade: F
Running Backs
It's hard to really find anything wrong here. Royster did the most he could with what he was given. There were some plays where the offensive line completely broke down and there was nothing he could do. He just buried his head and got what he could. At least he didn't fumble the game away.
Stephfon Green was a pleasant surprise gaining 31 yards on 3 carries. Makes me wish he had more. And of course Derrick Williams looked good gaining 53 yards and a touchdown on 12 carries.
Final Grade: B
Recievers
You can't help but feel bad for Derrick Williams. Since the day he committed to Penn State back in 2005 no player had been more committed to this program. He promised to bring Penn State a national championship and everything he did on and off the field was committed to that end. He played his heart out last night, and he deserves better. His name won't be plastered all over the record books when he leaves, but he should go down as one of the greatest Penn Staters of all time.
Everyone else sucked. Butler couldn't get open. Norwood dropped the few opportunites he had. And then he walked back to the bench like he didn't care. If I don't see Andrew Quarless on the field again I'll be ok with that. I don't think there is a player on this team whose performance has failed to live up to their God-given athletic ability like Quarless. He's a waste of a scholarship as far as I'm concerned. Mickey Shuler does three times as much with one-third of the physical gifts.
Final Grade: F (except for Williams who gets an A for his all-around performance)
Offensive Line
They just looked out of sync all night. Gerald Cadogen looked slow on his pulls. Shipley and Wiz were releasing their men and advancing to the second level too quckly leaving Royster to get swallowed up in the backfield. Ohrnberger was getting pwned by Mitch Kin. Landolt and Ohrnberger each got called for holding that killed two PSU drives in Iowa territory. The run blocking was ok in the first half, but Iowa adjusted at halftime and we had no answer for it. The pass protection was terrible all day. Iowa had seven tackles for loss (one sack) and seven QB hurries.
Final Grade: D
Offensive Coaching
I'm still trying to figure out what our gameplan was. I'm sure they were on the field before the game started, so they must have known they were starting out heading into a 34 degree 25 mph wind. So why do we come out trying to throw the ball on the first three plays? It was a colossal failure to observe the conditions and adapt. We came in with a script and by-Gawd we were going to stick to it.
All day long I couldn't figure out which part of the Iowa defense we were trying to attack. We came out throwing. Then we ran the ball with success, but kept stalling in the redzone. In the second half we got away from the power running game that worked in the first half and started throwing the ball again. It was like they spent the bye week just putting in gimmick plays for Derrick Williams instead of examining Iowa and developing a game plan to attack their defense. This wasn't the Penn State offense we saw all year long. When Williams wasn't taking the snap they ran up the middle and threw to the sidelines. Where was the originality? Why did we limit ourselves?
The decision to switch Stefen Wisniewski and Rich Ohrnberger on the offensive line completely backfired. Mitch King was owning Ohrnberger all day. I don't understand why they didn't adjust and try switching them back. I'm also disappointed they didn't pull Clark in the fourth quarter and give Pat Devlin a shot. It was pretty obvious Clark was struggling and the offense needed a spark. Maybe Devlin could have provided that. I certainly doubt he would have overthrown Williams that horribly on our final drive.
Final Grade: F
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A sweep
Every time they were in the red zone I was looking for a sweep to the wide side. Royster or Green could have walked in since Iowa was selling out up the middle ALL day long. Other than that, the grades are spot on.
They just looked asleep for most of the game, and I really feel for D Dubb, he’s done everything and he’s never bitched about it.
by cmdpsu15 on Nov 9, 2008 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for helping me through this...
Not that this belongs here but I wanted to thank all of my fellow PSU fans for getting me through one of the most sickening days in recent memory… I am still so mad about that game but I guess I need to get over it.
by ilovejoe on Nov 9, 2008 4:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Williams
threw the best completion of the day.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on Nov 9, 2008 4:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Calls for Devlin are laughable
I have nothing against Devlin. He seems like a good kid with a great arm. But unless DC remained concussed (which I still suspect), Devlin shouldn’t be called in just because DC looked troubled during the Ohio St game.
And the arguments to put Devlin in are purely preposterous. They pointed to his first drive on the Shoe as a success. But he started on Ohio’s 38 yard line due to Pryor’s fumble. Not only that, he almost threw an interception. His second drive was led by Royster running down the field. Don’t get me wrong, Devlin did a fine job, but those are hardly legit reasons that he’s doing better than DC.
Yeah, the Iowa game was the Big Suck and DC deserved the F grade, but I think to jump ship now would be the Big Flake on our part.
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 9, 2008 4:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What?
Not only that, he almost threw an interception.
He only threw one pass and it wasn’t close to being picked.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2008 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True....
But it wasn’t completed either. Of course, if I recall, that play ended up with defensive interference anyway.
I’m not sure if we really had the time to pull Clark, really. I think they would have after his last interception, but obviously we didn’t get the ball back anyway. Them’s the breaks.
by smashtheguitar on Nov 9, 2008 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It was interference. A good decision by the d-back. If he hadn’t interfered it probably would have been a TD.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And really
That play was perfectly executed. Timing, blocking, DWill getting open, good pass, it was all dead on.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 9, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Without question
Dead-on on pass to where the receiver should have been had he not been held, and no safety help.
by PSU Mudder on Nov 10, 2008 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a dumb comment Mr. Rosewater.
What has DC done against top tier athletes? UM, Iowa, OSU??? He looked unreal against some lesser comp.
Granted, Devlin didn’t prove anything yet because lack of playing time. What I do know is, Clark has been sucking for a few weeks.
Trust me, if he was still concussed there is NO WAY IN HELL he would have been on the field. The docs at PSU have more power than any coach.
If Devlin was the one sucking I would be calling for someone else, just giving honest opinion.
by SweepTheLeg on Nov 9, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Powerful Docs?
The docs at PSU have more power than any coach
Yeah. Remember when JoePa broke his leg on the sideline. The docs pulled their rank and got him right off of the field and in for an X-Ray. It’s not like Joe hobbled around on the sideline for most of a quarter and caused a huge distraction. Or, am I remembering that wrong…
All joking aside, I doubt that Clark was still concussed. However, with how bad the passing game was, they should have put Devlin in for a drive just to shake things up a little. It couldn’t possibly have hurt…
by JeremyInDC on Nov 9, 2008 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When
it comes to a players safety yes…joe pa…no
by SweepTheLeg on Nov 9, 2008 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not dumb, just being reasonable
You pull DC, and put PD in and the same thing will happen. Royster struggles with the run, receivers will drop the ball, defensive coverage leaves gaping holes. Pull PD, put in Cianciolo. Same thing.
My point being the arguments for putting PD in was a) based on inflated sense of accomplishment at the Shoe and b) reactionary impulses. It wasn’t entirely DC’s fault, though he played poorly (I thought defense coverage was the biggest problem).
I’m not saying YOU made these statements, that’s just what I’ve read. And it’s all based on hindsight anyway. Of course, after it’s all said in done, why didn’t they put PD in?
Because it feels good to point things out after the fact.
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 10, 2008 1:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One bealeagured point
It was windy, REALLY WINDY. Drive your car up to 35 MPH and stick your hand out the window (I did it today), Some of Clark’s play including the fourth quarter interception and even the drops had to be because of the wind. I would like to have seen texas tech play Iowa yesterday, I suspect they may have had some trouble.
Derrick Williams friend is called Tally Mcdropsalot.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Nov 9, 2008 5:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stanzi threw in that same wind
on that same field
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on Nov 9, 2008 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Stanzi sucks...
Or so we were led to believe. Looked like freakin Brady Quinn during the 4th puarter.
by JeremyInDC on Nov 9, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah I forgot the most important problem about Saturday.
Ohio State knocked the HD right out of us.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Nov 9, 2008 5:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
Since the MNC is nothing more than a longshot pipe-dream at this point, the thing I want the most out of this season is for DWill to get drafted by a team that knows how to use him properly. Nothing would make me happier than to see that guy succeed in the NFL, not even a Rose Bowl berth/victory.
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Nov 9, 2008 5:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And for his 11 foot tall "friend"
I’m going to play it simple and just say we name him “HD.”
Everyone was wondering what we were holding back? We waited until the Iowa game to unleash HD, our freak of nature, handless, invisible WR. EPIC FAIL!!
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Nov 9, 2008 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree with you more.
That kid deserves nothing, but the best. We, as alumni/fans are lucky to have had him at PSU.
by PSU Jen on Nov 9, 2008 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weather or Not
After going through the PBP (maybe I missed one or two plays):
Clark with the wind: 7-12
Clark into the wind: 2-10
Clark 1st half: 7-15
Clark 2nd half: 2-7
Stanzi with wind: 7-14
Stanzi into wind: 8-12
Stanzi 1st half: 2-5
Stanzi 2nd half: 13-21
Looking at Stanzi’s performance, it’s hard to purely blame the weather. He actually did the most damage, other than the INT, in the 3rd quarter facing into the wind. Clark was bad early and late, both times throwing into the wind, but since Stanzi was able to handle it, Clark really ought to have done better. The drops weren’t on him, but the passes sailing 4 feet too high and balls thrown like rockets on 5 yard routes were on him.
by gcdyersb on Nov 9, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i was at the game...
maybe it actually was still windy and i just didn’t notice it anymore, but i’m pretty sure when Clark through that INT there wasn’t a whole lot of wind anymore. It was just another one of his horrible overthrows. Clark really didn’t even need to be much of a factor in this game, though. The coaching was just pathetic. Why we came out throwing into the wind on three straight downs is just plain stupid. DWill is awesome, though…how he was able to get positive yards almost every time that stupid shotgun run was called is amazing (I think that play was called 7 or 8 times, with the pass being the one variation of it).
Our defense looks amazing against quarterbacks who aren’t that accurate, but Stanzi actually has decent accuracy and throws well on the move. The more I think about it, the less I want Tom Bradley being head coach after JoePa. The lack of blitzing and stunts to get pressure on an inexperienced and inconsistent quarterback is just ridiculous. And when we do blitz, why is it the blitzes are always up the middle??? Iowa loves to get stanzi out of the pocket…so we blitzed up the middle, and he bootlegs outside with no one to make a play on him because of the cluster$#*@ in the middle.
by bbeck223 on Nov 9, 2008 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Blitzing up the middle (MLB position)
And why do we always try to blitz Hull? He never gets there. Always close, always a step late, getting solidly blocked by a smaller RB. The only reasoning I can think is that we know he will be lost in coverage, so might as well send him after the QB.
Is it just me, or does this speak volumes about Colosanti? Hull is clearly a weakness on a major college program defense. Is this:
a) Loyalty to Hull?
b) Colosanti being in the doghouse? or
c) Colosanti just not living up to his potential?
I could see questioning why we didn’t see Mauti more, but Sales is a solid OLB and Mauti is inexperienced, so I don’t have a big issue there. But Hull is clearly a weakness.
by The Man with One Black Shoe on Nov 9, 2008 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How Can you rate the Running Backs a B?
They didn’t get the job done when needed. They got stopped on key plays that resulting in field goals. Yes part of the blame goes to the O-line, but who cares if you get 90 yards in the middle of the field, when you can’t get the final 8 for a TD.
Overall poor TEAM loss. The boys need to get that fire back and unless the fury against Indiana, get their confidence back stand up against MSU.
by MrBrianPSU on Nov 9, 2008 5:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
running backs were probably...
the one bright spot besides odrick. It seemed like he was getting thru Iowa’s O-Line pretty well. But come on, Evan Royster broke more tackles in the backfield and at the line of scrimmage than any running back with a decent O-Line should have to. He made plays out of nothing several times, but hey, he can’t break 3 tackles behind the line every time. That’s what the problem was when we got to and near the red zone…the O-Line just layed down. I think we all know running backs get about 3/4 of their yards because of the O-Line. So, when a RB has a bad game, I’d say 3/4 of it is the fault of O-Line.
However, what I want to know is,
What happened to the screen pass?
Iowa blitzed over and over again to get pressure on Clark and stop the run game and we did nothing to try and counter it. Once again, this game came down to coaching.
by bbeck223 on Nov 9, 2008 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your grades and comments are right on. Looking forward I would not go as far as starting Devlin against Indiana but he definitely should get a chance to play before the game is a blowout. Clark is living on a few good games early in the season. He was so so at Purdue, avg with some big fumbles vs Michigan, not good at Ohio St. and terrible vs Iowa. I’ll never understand why Paterno refuses to make a switch at QB during the game. I remember PSU-Illinois 2007 when they pulled Juice Williams, their star QB. The back-up helped lead them to win. Following week Williams is back starting. No problem, coach just had the guts to do what was needed at the time.
by jabama on Nov 9, 2008 5:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WInd not a prolem
I was at the game and the wind at field level was not a problem. The playing field is at least 20 feet below the ground outside of the stadium. When you walk in at ground level you go through a tunnel to the seats and you are at around row 35. So you walk down to get to the first 35 rows of seat. I was in row 4, about 20 feet from the playing field, on the windward side and had nearly a puff of wind in my face. In addition the press box towers over the side of the stadium from where the wind was blowing providing a huge shield. The pennants on the top of the stadium were straight out but I didn’t see or feel much evidence of the wind playing a big part in the passing game. It looked like some high punts may have been affected. It also looked like we tried some high kickoffs a few times with the wind behind us but they barely made it to the 20 yard line. So I don’t think the criticism about why we were throwing is valid. Now the cold weather may have affected the receivers from holding on as there were a number of dropped balls.
The team as a whole didn’t execute well. A couple of players did but I find it hard to pick out individuals to blame for the loss. Not getting a touchdown when we had 1st and goal from the 3 yard line says it all.
by ageing lion on Nov 9, 2008 6:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well so much for that excuse, thanks for the interesting info.
The announcers went on about the wind, you think they could have pointed out how sheltered it actually is down on the field.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Nov 9, 2008 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game
and up in the last row, which obviously isn’t the same as being near the field, but the wind up there was vicious. One thing I did note was to pay attention to the flags on top of the FG posts during the game, and those were either straight out from the strong wind, or fluttering all over from the swirling wind.
Also, I can imagine that the cold made the WRs hands not work quite as well as they’d like (I was trying to text a friend the updates to the game, and I could barely work my fingers).
Our one big advantage over Iowa was our passing game. Take that away, and the teams actually matched up pretty well defensively and running-wise. Add in that their QB was able to move the ball passing (but most of that was on BLOWN coverage by our DBs), and their WRs didn’t seem to drop as many “easy” passes as ours did (no idea why our sure-hands guys were the one’s dropping, but oh well).
Sucks that we lost, but oh well.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2008 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone have an explanation for our lack of timeouts?
Was I the only one screaming at the TV to take their timeouts when Iowa passed the 50 yard line on their final drive?
You find out life's this game of inches. And so is football.
by BleedingBlue4Psu on Nov 9, 2008 6:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Resignation? Stubbornness?
The only things I can think of. The whole ‘this has been a tough, tough game, on the road, in tough conditions, and this is where we are; our defense is gonna win it for us or lose it for us.’
Well, guess what?….
To take a different tack: Stanzi (who we were calling Stanzi the Pansy Who Wears Panties) sure manned up outta that nickname. Clutch, clutch throws against our maddening zone (what did RUTS call it? Bend But Don’t Suck)
pax et amor
by jtothep on Nov 9, 2008 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, I wasn't screaming at the TV
but I was screaming down at the sidelines. Completely inexcusable. I guess they figured they’d take their chances with Iowa’s crappy FG kicking and all the wind.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
D-Will Homerism
Williams played better than any of the wide recievers but to give him an A, and spew his praises is a bit much.
D-Will is just another prime example of a player who didn’t progress fully to his potential at Penn State.
He had a promising freshman campaign, it was cut short by injury, and he more or less disappeared for two years. His signicant impact this year has been in special teams more than as a true wide reciever weapon.
The last 3 offensive plays completely turned the game, and they were a direct result of over using a player who isn’t a superstar that creates yardage from the line of scrimmage.
Williams draw, Williams end around (worst…play call…ever), overthrow to Williams (second worst…play call…ever).
Overall D-Will’s career will have to be considered a disappointment. He may a great individual and leader, but he’s just not one of those guys that can take over a game. For all the hoopla that’s been made of him, you would have hoped he was.
by NittanyBadger on Nov 9, 2008 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Part of that is the Myth
That a receiver can ‘take over a game.’ Did anybody see that Texas Tech Crabtree/Harrell heisman promotional video that played off the election? Well, I’m with Harrell.
Expectations for receivers are unreasonably out of line with the real importance of their position on a 11-person offensive team.
pax et amor
by jtothep on Nov 9, 2008 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and No
Definitely the production of Williams hasn’t matched the hype. Williams just isn’t that great of a receiver. He’s fast, but not particularly great at getting open in closed spaces. He’s also not a guy who will make an athletic catch.
He is a useful multi-purpose player, though not a dominant player. Seeing him in the return game exemplifies his skill set. When he gets the ball in space and only has to make a few jukes, he’ll burn by anyone. Unfortunately, that puts him in the category of great athlete, not great football player. Fast, moderately agile, but not good at reading the play or breaking tackles.
On a deeper team, Williams would be a role player. But he’s the closest thing PSU has to a burner. Yesterday running Williams from the direct snap was working 90% of the time. Williams deserves some serious credit for getting consistent yardage out of that formation on a day the passing game wasn’t working and the O-line in general was not holding its own.
by gcdyersb on Nov 9, 2008 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we had a competent QB the past two years, that might be different.
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 9, 2008 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The majority of the team did not seem psyched to be playing
They appeared very flat. Like they were expecting to win. In a dopey voice: “We’re in the redzone. Oh well – a field goal. We’ll get some more points next drive.” And next drive another field goal. It was maddening to watch. Where was the excitement? Where was the effort to make a statement to the nation? I’ll tell you where I saw it – on the Iowa sideline and stands. Very very sad psu outing.
by NJ lion on Nov 9, 2008 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And I'm wondering if any of this is because Joe isn't on the sidelines
Getting in their faces, grabbing their jerseys, waking them up.
by NJ lion on Nov 9, 2008 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They looked cold, even in the first quarter they just didn't look very enthused on the sideline.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Nov 9, 2008 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
heaters
Joe doesn’t believe in portable heaters. He thinks if players are concered with getting warm that they’re not watching the game and not focused.
After watching that I’d have to disagree with coach. I think being cold really was a disadvantage to our players — especially the skill position players…
by millzners on Nov 10, 2008 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Our Tacopants...
I say we call him “Tony Johnson”
by IcersGuy on Nov 9, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tacopants
Shouldn’t ours be something that deals with italian food, like, Paninipants or Spaghettipants?
Williams had such a good day, it’s a damn shame the game had to end that way.
by uncle chain on Nov 10, 2008 1:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Calonipants?
Drop the ball. Take the canoli.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Nov 10, 2008 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Devlin
I’m as big a Pat Devlin fan as anyone, but I don’t think you can make a case to put him in. Imagine this – we put him in, have the same situation, punt it away, Iowa takes the lead, then we go back to Clark and he throws the interception. Or imagine we put in Devlin on the last drive and he doesn’t score.
We’d be second guessing the coaching all week.
by PSUMBBtrumpet on Nov 10, 2008 8:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He
Could not have done much worse than DC. Sometimes you just have a bad day, put someone else in there for a spark. You do the same thing at RB.
My point, give it a shot for 2 series and see what happens.
by SweepTheLeg on Nov 10, 2008 8:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly....it's not like you have to put him in for the rest of the game...
but give it a shot for a drive or 2…you never know unless you give him a shot.
And I agree he could not have been any worse than DC…. 9-23 for 86 yeards won’t get it done in Pop Warner, let alone the Big 11.
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Nov 10, 2008 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quarless
Quarless should just give his scholarship to a PSU student in need, go home and be the waste-of-talent d-bag assistant football coach at his high school that he’s destined to be. Utterly disappointing.
by Cairo on Nov 10, 2008 10:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Biggest Choker I've Seen for PSU
It’s not just the drops — he missed blocks all day too.
by millzners on Nov 10, 2008 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Choking = Effort without Concentration
Quarless doesn’t even exude effort. He’s just going through the motions. He never seems affected whether he performs well or poorly. He would be perfect for the 1999 squad.
by Cairo on Nov 10, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is it time...
to start blaming JayPa for the regression of Clark at QB and other offensive woes?
Why am I starting to get the feeling Clark is taking a step back instead of getting better as the season wears on…?
Why is it that we keep seeing our offensive talent regress through their college careers here?
We get by on talent and little else.
The only players on our team that do get better are the linebackers. Everyone else just seems to come in with their talent level established and then proceed to stay there or get worse.
by WarBird on Nov 10, 2008 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the QB.
Tell me he looks the same since his late INT to Wisconsin. I don’t believe so. Was he really that affected by it? His confidence is shaken. If so, it’s the responsibility of the QB coach to guide him back to form psychologically.
This was the same time that Mills started to look bad.
As for coaching, I think most of the rest improve over time. Heck, I’d almost argue this year the LB’s are the one’s that look worse as they get older. Guys like Bowman and Mauti look better than Sales.
by Cairo on Nov 10, 2008 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're getting that feeling
because the defenses are getting tougher.
Granted, I believe Jay Paterno is a completely incompetent boob who has no business being an offensive coordinator in the Big 10…but, we all became awestruck of Daryll Clark after watching him dominate sorry defenses in a less than respectable non-conference schedule.
Its the ups and downs of a long football season. He’ll come back…although the over throws in zone coverage are scary. (a few against ohio state, a few at iowa…besides the obvious one). He did miss a few times in Wisconsin, there were just so many opportunities against the Badgers that they were easily forgotten.
It is a completely fair comment to say that PSU players don’t progress (or when they do, it just feels a little too late…LJ, MRob). There are certainly plenty of arguments to back that up over the past 8 years.
by NittanyBadger on Nov 10, 2008 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quarless = No Heart As* Clown
To put another note on Quarless, I agree on all points. Drop his scholarship and give it to someone with more passion and heart for the team. The kid doesn’t care about anyone but himself. I’ve never seen someone with so much God given talent and waste it away. Those dropped passes by him and Norwood just killed us on Saturday. I’m sure it also affected Clark who was already having a rough day as it is. Let’s be done with Quarless and keep Shuler in the game the whole time.
by jcierski on Nov 10, 2008 1:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WHITE DB's . . . Im surprised they took this long . . .
to show their true colors. Think about it . . . Seriously.
by TITCUS on Nov 10, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Really?...
White DB’s are the problem? Rubin had the play of the game against OSU. Scirrotto has been solid for 3 years.
Didn’t Lydell Sargeant drop an interception that undoubtedly would have altered the outcome?
Who bit on the 3rd and 14 pump fake that went for an Iowa touchdown?
I guess he wasn’t as lucky to have escaped a dropped INT the way your name/picture sake Titcus Pettigrew was in 2000.
Seriously…
by NittanyBadger on Nov 10, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow... racial blame?
Good for you, Badger, nice retort… couldn’t agree more. And now on to my personal rant…
A guy looking to hang something on what race a player is? Get it together, bro… live in the now. I figured that we as Penn Staters being tabbed as smart, thoughtful, reasonable, and somewhat cultured people would have put crap like this behind us. We all JOKE about white LB’s but that is all it ever is. I don’t ever want to see someone post something as asinine as that again.
Seriously…
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on Nov 10, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem isn't the white DB's, it's the white head coach...
Give me a break.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Nov 10, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL . . .
KILL WHITEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys really need to lighten up.
SERIOUSLY!!!
by TITCUS on Nov 10, 2008 3:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Killing Whitey...
As in the all white road jerseys. They gotta go.
Tradition, Tradition, I know…but please, those things are terrible.
Have you ever dressed entirely in white and then ran around? You just feel unathletic.
Penn State has stunk on the road for too long. The only consistent thing is JoePa and the road uniforms. You pick, but one has gotta go.
And, no, I don’t have any recommendations. Maybe some blue stripes…maybe a thick blue stripe. But something, anything.
Down with whitey.
Its time for change.
But the white DBs can stay.
by NittanyBadger on Nov 10, 2008 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe blue pants with the white jerseys?
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Nov 10, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I got all wrapped up in this racist rhetoric, then I sat down to watch my favorite show:
Macgyver straightens shit right out
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Nov 10, 2008 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ohmygawd...
that is so horribly wonderful I can’t believe it. Cuba Gooding Jr? LMAO…
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
by TheMightyErik on Nov 11, 2008 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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