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Internet Rumbling: Pat Devlin Has Left The Program

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FightOnState is reporting that Pat Devlin has left the program. 

He came in highly recruited out of eastern PA but apparently never convinced the coaches he was a better option than Clark.  Without him, though, the teams chances of pulling ahead and then holding on against Ohio State would have decreased dramatically.

It sounds like he is already gone, meaning Paul Cianciolo will be the backup in the Rose Bowl.  This is a major setback in my opinion.  Yeah, he isn't contributing as a starter, but we have very few options should anything happen to Clark.

He always seemed to have a very good attitude and I'm sorry he felt the need to leave, he will be missed as the probably back up in 2009 and leaves an enormous, Pacific Ocean size hole at the position in 2010.  The coaches had better hope this helps us recruit one of the remaining QBs that will sign this spring, because otherwise it's big trouble.

We of course wish Devlin nothing but the best wherever he ends up.

Update: According to the Seattle Post, it's official:

The school released a statement saying Devlin informed coach Joe Paterno of his intention to transfer.

Officially Official: Donnie Collins passes this along from the PSU Athletic Department:

"Sophomore quarterback Pat Devlin has informed Coach Joe Paterno that he intends to transfer. He will not participate with the team in the Rose Bowl. The Penn State football program wishes him well at his new school."

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Best of luck to Devlin.

I hate that he left, but he never complained and was an upstanding guy. I think Clark’s a better QB because of him.

Having said that: am I the only one who didn’t think his play in the Ohio $tate game was that special? His one pass was waived off, and all he did was run into the endzone. I’m pretty sure Cianciolo could have gone 0/0 and there are quite a few running options near the endzone.

by Cairo on Dec 10, 2008 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I say this.

Someone had to come in, with confidence, and do what he did. Between calling the plays, making sure the rest of the players remained calm, and managing the clock, I’m not convinced “anyone” could have done that. We have no idea how Cianciolo would have performed, but I was very happy we had Devlin to take over.

I think this loss is a bigger deal than it seems on the surface.

by Kevin HD on Dec 10, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough.

Everyone’s comments on 2010 echo mine. Namely: AAAAAAaaaaaahhh!!!!!!

by Cairo on Dec 10, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Devlin is a huge loss to our program

I wish him well also. Cairo, I respectfully disagree with you on Devlin’s play not being anything special in the OSU win. His pass that was called off was a 15 yard penalty for starters. But that is not the biggest thing. It was the wake up call to OSU that said we can not just stop the run because this guy will make us pay big. Cianciolo would not have done that. His quick decision making abillity was huge in that drive. I think this is a crushing blow to our program. If Clarke goes down in the rose bowl we have Cianciolo. Next year we have a freshman qb, maybe.

Peter

by psuboy on Dec 11, 2008 8:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Forget the Rose bowl

I’m worried about Clark getting hurt during spring practice. This year we lost Lee, but we were lucky enough to have plenty of LBs to step up and take his place. We don’t have that same luxury with QBs.

Something tells me Devlin leaving is going to have a much bigger impact on our program than what it seems right now.

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Dec 11, 2008 9:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

i pretty sure anyone on this blog could have done that…

by WETSU on Dec 11, 2008 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This sucks

While it’s debatable who’s to “blame”, we clearly need a QB. I wonder if we’re going to move Brackett back if we don’t get a QB this class. Or else it’s on to the walk-ons.

by PizzaDelivery on Dec 10, 2008 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm thinking

Might this give Newsome enough motivation to come to PSU now that he would have a chance to contribute early. He could learn from Clark next season then take over in 2010.

by psuquinn on Dec 10, 2008 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully we can grab either Newsome or Boyd this year

preferrably Newsome, as he’s inclined to enroll in the Spring. Then in ’10 we can grab Paul Jones….wishful thinking indeed.

by Screen Name 20 on Dec 11, 2008 8:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As far as I'm concerned, there's nobody to blame.

Devlin is very good and would certainly start in 1010. He just couldn’t unseat Clark. It’s not like Clark should be benched to appease Devlin. When Clark got that additional year of eligibility (as he was, of course, totally entitled to do), Devlin wasn’t left with many options.

We were just in the very unusual situation (for Penn State) of having two starting QBs. Best of luck, Pat.

All your base are belong to JoePa.

by mushdamma on Dec 11, 2008 6:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

I wasn’t aware that Downingtown was Western PA?

Good luck to Pat. Clearly Jaypa can’t develop a pro style QB, so go develop elsewhere. Looking forward to seeing you play on Sundays.

by ANGRYPSUFAN on Dec 10, 2008 8:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

eastern

this is why I try not to blog at night.

by Kevin HD on Dec 10, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Downingtown

Dtown is in Eastern, PA, near West Chester, I guess that’s a typo.

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 10, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully this doesn't screw the team, good luck Pat.

I hope you don’t sit on the bench where ever you go because that would make you look silly.

"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled"- Hunter S. Thompson

by phishead_psu on Dec 10, 2008 8:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Descent QB

And I’m thankful he was part of the tOSU win. However, if he was all the hype made him out to be, I believe he would have started games this season.

If he doesn’t go I-AA he may just end up where he started. On the bench, waiting. Hope that doesn’t happen though, best of luck.

by MicrobrewPSU on Dec 10, 2008 8:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If...

this would have happened in a position we were deep in, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. The only people to blame are the coaches for not filling the QB cupboards before this year. On scout they are doing a lot of complaining about how he was never considered for the starting position and that fueled him leaving, etc. etc. But I feel it would still be a big deal if it was Clark gone and only Devlin to handle things. So the lesson to be learned here is we should be recruiting better. Another issue is why highly touted QB recruits recently have not wanted to come here and why does Devlin not think he can be developed currently.

Overrall, he doesn’t want to be a part of the PSU family anymore? Peace out, and good luck with whatever you do. But we need to sit down and wonder how we ever got into this situation, how to fix it, and how to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

I was out in the trenches, which enables me to paint such a powerful picture, like Apocalypse Now.-Cormega

by OMEGAMAN on Dec 10, 2008 8:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

QB's don't want to come to PSU for one reason only...

our QB coach – or lack thereof.

Players of a high caliber are concerned about making it to the next level and Jay is simply not one the best 50 options to get them there. With Kerry Collins as our sole Pro emissary and despite his recent resurge, PSU little to point to in to the QB success dept.

If PSU starting QB’s have a tough time sticking in the NFL a backup with 1yr max as a starter has little chance. Meanwhile a USC backup is leading the Patriots.

Devlin is doing what he has to do to give him a chance to make the Pros. Seeing no change at the position next year, who can blame him. PSU will be fine with a guy who can manage a game and not make mistakes – that is the PSU QB legacy – Trent Dilfer types.

A QB coach with a track record would be good start toward future recruiting, Until that happens, hopefull we continue to go after the dual threat kids who can cover up their mentor’s flaws.

pinkertonpark.com - you owe yerself a laugh.

by rahpsu92 on Dec 11, 2008 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Donnie Collins from the Scranton Times:
http://community.thetimes-tribune.com/blogs/pennstate/archive/2008/12/10/report-devlin-to-transfer.aspx

"UPDATE, 7:29: I just got a message from Penn State sports information director Jeff Nelson.

“I have not heard anything about Pat leaving,” he said.

I’m hesitant to call this a done deal just yet, but there are strong indications that Devlin is leaving. At least officially, though, nothing is coming out from Penn State."

"They're wearing black because they are going to a motherf-ing funeral."

by slacoe on Dec 10, 2008 8:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just curious

Any chance this is BS? You called it a “internet grumbling”, so just curious if this could be wrong.

If it is true, this is really saddening to me, I heard it was always his dream to be at PSU (even though he originally committed to Miami), there’s a bio video of him on gopsf.com and his family was all Penn Staters. It just looks like he grew up how I’m assuming a lot of us grew up: surrounded by PSU. I hate to see him go, but the situation with Clark coming back next year and him only having one year of eligibility after that is a bad one to be in, so I don’t blame him for being frustrated.

by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 10, 2008 8:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shit.

Throw it to Zug!

by ReadingRambler on Dec 10, 2008 8:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Any possibilities for him going to Delaware, esp after seeing the success Flacco had there transfering from Pitt? Or does a Patriot League team pick him up, thoughts?

"They're wearing black because they are going to a motherf-ing funeral."

by slacoe on Dec 10, 2008 8:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Transfer

My understanding is that he loses a year of eligibility if he were to go to a 1-A school and would thus only have 1 year to play, which is no better than staying at PSU and being the backup in 2009 and starter in 2010. So, that means that he’s almost certainly going to a 1-AA school (like Delaware or Villanova, etc.) and can play/start in 2009 and 2010.

It almost certainly wouldn’t be a Patriot League team though, as those are non-scholarship and low profile.

by Laaaaazzz on Dec 10, 2008 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Delaware

got a transfer from Ohio State last season who had 3 years of elgibility…so someone like Richmond, Villanova, or maybe somewhere down south might work

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Dec 10, 2008 9:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Shit

I hope this isn’t true, but if it is, it screws us on numerous levels.

1. Immediate future- Offensive playcalling in the Rose Bowl gets puckered up tighter than my ass in San Francisco on the worry that Clark gets hurt.

2. Next season- See above if we can’t land Newsome. Get used to 6-4 games like ’04 Iowa.

3. Next next season- Potential redshirt freshman starting.

This puts us in a world of hurt if true.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Dec 10, 2008 8:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

FROM

WEST SCRANTON, PA!

"They're wearing black because they are going to a motherf-ing funeral."

by slacoe on Dec 10, 2008 8:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“that’s a hell hole”

and willmington, DE isn’t much better

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Dec 10, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

McGloin?

Might as well be MyGroin. This kid wouldn’t start at any Div 1 school. We are F’d.

by brd119 on Dec 11, 2008 7:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

My guess is he ends up at Delaware. He’ll have to sit out a year if he wants to play at a D-I school. Then he only has one year left. So he might as well stay at Penn State if he’s ok starting just one year.

Best of luck to him whatever he does. He’s a good kid.

by BSD on Dec 10, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Schoenhoft

transfered from tOSU to Delaware and has one year left. He led them to a 4-8 record, so maybe the QB happy coach will take on Pat.

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Source

I just got word from a very reliable source that he has, in fact, left the team.

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." -Joe Paterno

by TheGunslinger on Dec 10, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is what we get for all that screwing around with Zug

Best of luck to Pat, I hope we can get a decent recruit this year, if we do we’ll be fine.

We just needed a couple players, a couple people to buy in to the fact and we were able to do it. --A.Q. Shipley

by psu on Dec 10, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I heard that Devlin eyeballed one

of the Zuggies and The Zug only spared Devlin’s life if Devlin got out of Centre County.

Our Zug is an Awesome Zug.
Zug 3:16

pinkertonpark.com - you owe yerself a laugh.

by rahpsu92 on Dec 11, 2008 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry to see this happen

but best of luck to him, he handled the entire situation with class. The thing is, I think he has to leave now or risk transferring too late to have a shot of starting somewhere.

by PSiriUs on Dec 10, 2008 8:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Goodbye, and good luck

If he doesn’t want to be part of this team, oh well. Life will go on without him. Think of it this way – our next QB (Newsome, Boyd?) will get three years as a starter.

Why are QBs always such whiny, selfish prima donnas? Plenty of other players sit and wait their turn, or are satisfied with some 4th quarter PT. But back-up QBs always seem to transfer. Why is this?

by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 10, 2008 9:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

DAMNIT! THIS IS JAY PATERNO'S FAULT

I’ve been a Clark supporter all the way, but there is also something special about Devlin. I’m just shocked. THIS SUCKS! I was really looking forward to watching him play.

Why is it that every other top tier team in the country has their bench full of 4 and 5 star recruits waiting their turn but we can’t hold on to more than 1? Even when we get one they underperform or they leave.

This is part of the ongoing CURSE of JAY PATERNO. May God have mercy on the 2010 Nittany Lions. We are in deep trouble if we don’t get a big time recruit this season.

by millzners on Dec 10, 2008 9:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WHOA.

Come down off the ledge, son.

Lots of programs have good, but unhappy or impatient players leave. We’re not exactly unique here.

Would it be nice to have insurance for a concussion-prone Clark next year? Yep. But we’ll still be fine, and will give some young QB the chance to get some experience.

by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 10, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And there it is

I was wondering how long it would take until someone blamed JayPa for this.

by BSD on Dec 10, 2008 11:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s been a difficult season for a lot of us not being able to trash Jay all the time; Clark has been amazing, and as sweet as that is, nothing is sweeter than some good ’ol Jay Paterno bashing.

by millzners on Dec 11, 2008 8:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not anyones fault

You can only have 1 starting QB and 1st team all Big Ten QB Daryll Clark was it. I’m sorry to lose Pat, but he didn’t win the job and had to wait his turn…Clark is a special player that is a great leader and we are lucky to have him for another season

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Dec 10, 2008 9:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm over reacting

But I find it really hard to swallow that the minute our QB position finally starts looking good for longer than a season we take a huge hit like this.

I believe Newsome or Boyd will be even hotter for this team, but starting a RS Freshman is going to take us through some serious growing pains.

Remember 2010 and 2011 we are playing ALABAMA. Those are huge games!

by millzners on Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Eh...

If we sign a QB in this year’s class, I’d guess we play him as the #2 next year. I doubt he’d redshirt.

by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 10, 2008 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RS-Freshman

I hate to say it, but RS-Freshman Zack Mills did help us through some tough times (i.e. Matt Seneca in 2001 season and in 2002).

Could have been worse (like his junior and senior seasons).

by The Mess on Dec 11, 2008 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Will Hunting...

its not your fault…its not your fault… its not your fult….ITS NOT YOUR FAULT…..ITS NOT YOUR FAULT…….ITS NOT YOUR FAULT

by JoePaPa on Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What is more impressive to NFL scouts?

One year playing against the best competition (The Big Ten and Alabama in 2010), or 1-AA (West Chester, Richmond etc)

He’s got potential though, that pass at the end of the Michigan State game was great

by JoePaPa on Dec 10, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

West Chester

is PSAC D-II

"They're wearing black because they are going to a motherf-ing funeral."

by slacoe on Dec 10, 2008 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Delaware is 1AA

And played West Chester this year (and often does), I was referring to the competition that a 1AA team would be playing IE Flacco

by JoePaPa on Dec 10, 2008 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Potential...

Is something I once said about He Who shall not be named. I also said it about injury prone Mills. Who knows what would have happened had he waited his turn. NFL scouts have gone on one year alone to recruit.. Hope he does well in the AAs.

by MicrobrewPSU on Dec 10, 2008 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well Jerry Rice

went to some po dunk school in Mississippi and look what he did

NFL scouts will see what they need to see and trust me they have probably been watching him since HS

if Mor(on)elli can atleast get a tryout with a team Devlin can def make a practice squad

by Lion Alum on Dec 11, 2008 8:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A little side note...

not that it really matters but..
I think that pic is actually Scirrotto considering the glove on the hand holding his helmet.

by nitlions057 on Dec 10, 2008 9:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You might be right

here is the site I stole pulled it from.

The caption:

Penn State quarterback Pat Devlin (7) celebrates with fans after Penn State beat Ohio State in an NCAA college football game Saturday, Oct. 25, 2008, in Columbus, Ohio. Penn State won 13-6. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)

by Kevin HD on Dec 10, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But let’s change it anyway.

by Kevin HD on Dec 10, 2008 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its gotta be tough for Pat

to see a guy like Sam Bradford who is the same year as him (redshirt sophmore) have all that success (maybe even Heisman) while Pat was ranked much higher than Bradford coming out of high school (Pat #4 QB by scout.com in 2005, while Bradford was the #17 QB). Funny thing is Mitch Mustain was the #1 QB in 2005 and he’ll have to wait till 2010 to start.

by whiteoutonly on Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow...this ruins my night

I’ve never seen a QB at Penn State throw a prettier deep ball than Devlin (in the time I’ve been here…we haven’t had insanely amazing QBs in the last five years). Best of luck to him though.

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 10, 2008 10:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Say it ain't so...

http://community.thetimes-tribune.com/blogs/pennstate/archive/2008/12/10/report-devlin-to-transfer.aspx

UPDATE, 9:37: I step out for lunch, and Penn State issues a statement. Read it and weep.

“Sophomore quarterback Pat Devlin has informed Coach Joe Paterno that he intends to transfer. He will not participate with the team in the Rose Bowl. The Penn State football program wishes him well at his new school.”

by BA2000 on Dec 10, 2008 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunate.

I suppose this was unavoidable in many ways. You can’t really argue with the choice that the coaches made in August — we’re in the Rose Bowl, right? Pat’s a talented kid, and he’d apparently rather be a two-year starter at a lower level than a one-year starter at Penn State. That’s his decision. It creates a metric assload of problems for Penn State

I think it’s a little short-sighted. Clark’s not exactly indestructible. Still, he wouldn’t be leaving unless he had a destination in mind. That’ll be interesting.

by Run Up The Score on Dec 10, 2008 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Concussions get worse with time

That one he had against Michigan, then again at Ohio St. the following year. Not to mention he still didn’t seem right at Iowa.

Clark is great but I worry more and more that he’s got a glass jaw when it comes to hits. The coaches seem to know it too. I just hope he learns to avoid those hits and stays off his back, ESPECIALLY w/out Devlin.

by millzners on Dec 10, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't

worry, ZUG can play QB.

He will drop back and throw to himself.

Seriously, this stinks! I really liked PD and thought he had more upside than DC.

But DC was Jay’s guy.

by SweepTheLeg on Dec 10, 2008 10:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If

If we don’t get a QB in this years class, we’re looking at a potential return to the Dark Years after the 2009 season.

by kmblue on Dec 10, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The crime here...

…is the failure to land high-quality QB’s on a consistent basis.

Still, this could help us tremendously in recruiting. Any of the remaining top-notch high school QB’s suddenly see a situation where a top-ten program is going to have a starting position available in their true sophomore year.

The timing of this is actually kind of good.

by Run Up The Score on Dec 10, 2008 10:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting point

But if we recruit a top-flight QB every year, won’t half of them transfer when they realize they’re only going to start one or two years?

It’s becoming clear to me that a QB every year just means that Delaware or ’Nova is going to get some well-prepared/somewhat spoiled QBs dropped in their lap.

by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 10, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Beats the alternative

Players are going to leave at every position, for various reasons. The problem at Penn State is not only do they have a shortage of scholarship QB’s, the QB’s they have are pretty old. Paul C. is gone after this year, Clark has one more year remaining, and that’s it. As of right now, you have a sophomore walk-on as your backup QB next season.

One of the guys who posts on the FOS boards likes to say that PSU is one of two teams in what we know as Division 1-A that hasn’t signed a scholarship QB in the past three years (the other is Okie State, as I recall). That’s ridiculous and irresponsible.

by Run Up The Score on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and wasn't Newsome just in town.

It makes you wonder if Newsome is going to most likely commit after a good visit. Maybe Pat couldn’t handle the thought of competing for the starting role his senior year against another QB who maybe better for the spread offense.

We just needed a couple players, a couple people to buy in to the fact and we were able to do it. --A.Q. Shipley

by psu on Dec 10, 2008 10:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But PSU always starts the older kid!

I can’t possibly believe that Newsome scared off Devlin.

I would suggest that this became a distinct possibility after Pat played in the 4th quarter at Iowa, led the team to a win (with a lot of handoffs, let’s not forget), and watched an obviously groggy Clark effectively crap the undefeated season away at Iowa*. Add the increased Derrick Williams Wildcat snaps in the games and in practice, and the kid starts thinking, “how the hell am I ever going to get on the field again?”

Again, I don’t argue with the selection of Clark as starter. The Wildcat stuff generally works. And hey, who can blame Devlin for seeking out a better situation? The only real problem here is the glaring lack of any scholarship QB’s in 2009 besides Clark. And the next player to accept a QB scholarship becomes the apparent opening day starter in 2010.

(Unless, uh, we move Brackett back to QB.)

  • - And to be fair, there were other problems.

by Run Up The Score on Dec 10, 2008 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No way

For exactly the same reason that RUTS said. Joepa starts the older kid, in almost every situation. In fact, that thinking is probably what caused him to transfer: Devlin and Clark were tied, or at least very close, in the QB competition, so Joe went with Clark, who was here longer

by WPIALkid22 on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Joe went with Clark

Because Clark was better.

by speedomike on Dec 11, 2008 7:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

We’ll never know what our record could have been with Devlin. Hell maybe we’d be 12-0 going to meet Florida in the big game. But alternatively we could be 8-4 going to the damned Outback.

I’m not going to look a gift horse in the mouth, Clark has been incredible and aside from Iowa, near flawless.

by millzners on Dec 11, 2008 8:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the obvious argument of seniority.

But to me there isn’t a more logical reason for Devlin to transfer from a football standpoint. It’s just a bummer.

We just needed a couple players, a couple people to buy in to the fact and we were able to do it. --A.Q. Shipley

by psu on Dec 11, 2008 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seniority

It wasn’t because of seniority. Clark was better, and it wasn’t even close. I was told this by someone who saw every single practice.

by speedomike on Dec 11, 2008 10:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My question is this:

If it wasn’t such a close competition, why did they take so long to name a starter? And then afterwards have Joepa saying that both will split snaps with Clark being the starter?

by WPIALkid22 on Dec 11, 2008 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm speculating here

But maybe the coaches knew Devlin could be a risk to transfer before this year if they named Clark the starter earlier. It’s also possible that not everyone thought Clark was that far ahead of Devlin. That was just the opinion of the person who told me that.

by speedomike on Dec 11, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And therein lies the rub, I imagine.

Pat probably looked back on those August conversations with the coaching staff and realized he’d been (at least partially) played, so to speak.

by Run Up The Score on Dec 11, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to see Pat go...

Why do you think he left before the Rose Bowl?

by dontcallmescooter on Dec 10, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So he

can enroll in his new school in Jan.

JoePa in '09

by JGuiher on Dec 10, 2008 11:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing to start spring practices

But I was wondering that too. Wouldn’t you want to play in the Rose Bowl at least once in your life?

by WPIALkid22 on Dec 11, 2008 12:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Respect

I actually like what Pat is doing. It now gives the extra reps to McGloin. That is what this month is about. Besides preparing for the bowl games it is also the time they look ahead to 2009 and position switches. They can get some guys more reps and McGloin is going to need them.

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Dec 11, 2008 12:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now don't start that rumor..

On the very thought that Zug may show, several 5 star recruits decomitted from big schools just on the offchance they would be in the presence of the almighty Zug.

by MicrobrewPSU on Dec 11, 2008 12:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh, the good old Marauders!

Went to basketball camp there in 1989. Good times, good times. Except for when they made us do those damn “wall sits”. Those things SUCK!

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Dec 11, 2008 9:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My dad went there for awhile.. lol

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member

by TheMightyErik on Dec 11, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Newsome

I thinkI we have a great chance at getting Newsome, he was already very interested, and now seeing a chance to start three years at a program like Penn State, I think its only a matter of time.

by All Hail Lord Zug on Dec 11, 2008 12:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not to rile up all the JayPa haters....

but, here’s a quote from Jeff McLane’s Inquirer Blog:

The source said Devlin was never comfortable with quarterbacks coach Jay Paterno and relied more on the advice of wide receivers coach and former Penn State quarterback Mike McQueary and offensive coordinator Galen Hall.
“The relationship was never forged with him and his quarterbacks coach,” said Mike Matta, Devlin’s coach at Downingtown East.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-pennstate/Devlin_outtaaaheeeeerre.html

by GreggS on Dec 11, 2008 12:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did you feel that?

It felt as though an entire PSU message board exploded and then went silent.

Throw it to Zug!

by ReadingRambler on Dec 11, 2008 12:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Jedi's are going to feel this one...

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 11, 2008 1:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well

thats because McQuery ACTUALLY got playing time at the quarterback position, i would be more comfortable with McQuery over Jay any day

For the glory

by lionalum05 on Dec 11, 2008 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Galen Hall

He actually played too, albeit 70 years ago.

by Screen Name 20 on Dec 11, 2008 8:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Big Red should be QB coach

by NJ lion on Dec 11, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps..

This is a sign of the will of Zug.. big red should be the QB coach/Offensive coordinator.

by MicrobrewPSU on Dec 11, 2008 6:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but...

The main article…

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20081211_Penn_State_s_Devlin_says_he_ll_transfer.html

…states that Pat’s parents basically showed up with a list of gripes/demands and that PD wasn’t making up his mind about transferring. It sounds to me like JoePa got tired of doing this dance with him every December.

All your base are belong to JoePa.

by mushdamma on Dec 11, 2008 7:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Post-Intelligencer

Not the Seattle Post. Damn it. I grew up reading that paper.

by speedomike on Dec 11, 2008 7:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Must we go over this again...

….both Zack Mills AND Michael Robinson started over older QBs.

Please, don’t let the perception of the program get in the way of fact. Michael Robinson set the single game passing record AS A SOPHOMORE STARTER in 2003.

by stonewall435 on Dec 11, 2008 7:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

McQueary

has the single game passing record.

by blogue20 on Dec 11, 2008 9:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mills broke it in '02

He threw for 399 against Iowa. I can’t find that listed anywhere, but I distinctly remember that.

Throw it to Zug!

by ReadingRambler on Dec 11, 2008 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Several things to consider:

First, accoring to today’s Harrisburg Patriot News, Devlin’s father was not aware that Pat was transferring and said he hadn’t talked to him in some time. If that’s true, I don’t find that strange, that’s bizarre. So we really don’t know what was in Devlin’s head.

Unfortunately, my 13 month old boy (Penn State class of 2030) broke my crystal ball this summer (which was why I incorrectly predicted us before the Iowa game to be ranked #1 after that weekend) and I can no longer see into the future (fortunately Zug knows these things) to know whether Clark will escape 2009 injury free. If Clark does remain injury free, this may actually be a blessing. If Devlin had stayed, we would have been looking at breaking in new starters at QB in back to back years (‘10-’11). With Devlin gone, this should definitely help with recruiting a QB this year. And whoever it is knows he’s not going to be sitting for more than one year ( and if Clark were to go down, he’ll be playing immediately). I’ve always hated this shit of our QB’s having one full year of playing time. Most of our great teams have had QB’s that have been 3 year starters (there are exceptions, of course). So there’s actually a chance this is good.

As for Jay, he’s gaining a little bit of my respect. With him as QB coach, Robinson took us to within 2 seconds that didn’t exist of going undefeated. Morelli, from what I had been told by somebody connected with the Big 33 game, had personality flaws that Jay was not going to correct. Look at the year Clark had this year. Pretty damn good to me. I think the Iowa game was a combination of things (and we’re all entitled to a bad day; who doesn’t have them?) So, to me, Jay has nothing to do with Devlin’s leaving. And I hold no ill will toward Devlin. You do what you gotta do. I hope it all works out for him.

by Ab4PSU on Dec 11, 2008 7:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is there a reason he had to leave

before the Rose Bowl? That I don’t get.

Transfering? If he was going to transfer he should have left last year…I could have lived with that. It just seems like he’s going out of his way to leave us in a lurch.

I’m annoyed.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Dec 11, 2008 8:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He probably would have left before this year

But at the time, Clark looked like he was going to be gone after this year, leaving Devlin with two years as starting QB. I think when Clark stated that he was coming back for ’09 that sealed the deal on Devlin transferring.

by blogue20 on Dec 11, 2008 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This really hurts us in 2010... damn it!

I wish Devlin the best but I have to think this was a dumb decision on his part. One year as a starting QB at Penn State is worth several at an FCS school.

by markpsu on Dec 11, 2008 8:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate to see Pat go

But thats not necessarily true. Joe Flacco would NOT be a starting NFL qb right now had he stayed at Pitt.

by blogue20 on Dec 11, 2008 10:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike or Kevin, what are your sources telling you is the real story?

He cleaned out his locker and will not participate in the trip to the Rose Bowl?

That seems very strange to me. There must have been a blow up or something that would have caused him not to finish the season in the bowl game and then announce a transfer.

What is the real scoop?

by Lovethosefreakinnittanylions on Dec 11, 2008 8:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

So he can enroll in his new school right away

For the sake of classes and spring practice at his new school. Sucks that he won’t be there for the Rose Bowl, and I’m sure he wanted to, but that would have put him behind academically and as far as being on the field in ’09 in 1-AA

by blogue20 on Dec 11, 2008 10:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sources?

You think I have sources?

by BSD on Dec 11, 2008 11:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Best of luck, Pat!

He was a class act during his entire tenure at Penn State. I certainly wish him the best of luck where ever he winds up. Frankly, unless it’s Pitt or Notre Dame, I hope he wins a National Championship.

Penn State will truly miss you, Mr. Devlin.

by BSM PSU 93 on Dec 11, 2008 9:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dear Pat,

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

by Wade Rivers on Dec 11, 2008 9:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

That’s completely unnecessary and lacking in class. The guy never dragged the program down by getting caught with drugs, getting in fights downtown, or pulling a knife in the dining commons. He carried himself like a true professional, hellping us to a HUGE win in OSU when he was called upon to do so.

So, give the guy a break, man… he made the decision he had to make and, frankly, most would agree it was the right one for the situation.

by BSM PSU 93 on Dec 11, 2008 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just keep telling yourself that...

…eventually you’ll convince yourself. But that doesn’t make it true.

“He carried himself like a true professional, hellping us to a HUGE win in OSU when he was called upon to do so.”

He had 3 rushes for 3 yards and zero complete passes against OSU. Then he bailed on his teammates right before their biggest game of the season.

I agree with Joe on this one. Good riddance!

by Wade Rivers on Dec 12, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hold on

I don’t think Joe ever said “Good riddance.” I’m sure Joe tried to talk him into staying. I think when Devlin couldn’t decide whether he wanted to stay on for the Rose Bowl Joe decided it was best he leave now rather than be a distraction to the team.

by BSD on Dec 15, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not So Fast My Friend...

Dear Mike,
At the risk of pointing out the obvious.

It was I who said “Good riddance”, not Joe. And I stand by my words.

Devlin never really wanted anything to do with Penn State anyhoo. His first choice was the University of Miami Hurricanes (giving half an eye roll here). All he did at Penn State was waste a lot of the coaches time and valuable resources. If he didn’t win the starting job outright like he thought he was entitled to he should have worked harder to turn himself into an even more productive and effective quarterback/athlete. That’s what real young men do. They don’t quit right when their team needs them the most.

We may disagree on this issue but I’m willing to bet that we agree on a lot more than we disagree on.

by Wade Rivers on Dec 16, 2008 9:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still Not Sold on Clark...

Clark did better than I thought he would, but what defenses did he face this year? Only two good ones – OSU (the one in Ohio) and Iowa. I think he is jittery under pressure and still does some boneheaded things. Plus he fumbles – a lot.

We’ll see what happens in the Rose Bowl and next year. Clark did throw a lot of very nice passes behind a great O-line and to terrific receivers.

Can’t be sure if Devlin would have been better. And, yes, all other things being near equal, Clark was always going to be given the nod due to seniority.

The note about Devlin not establishing a rapport with Jay brings Henne to mind – only Henne figured it out in the recruiting process.

by hartmann on Dec 11, 2008 9:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I do like Clark

But as just a personal opinion, I miss seeing a true pocket passer. I needs me another Kerry Collins-like QB. Nothing against the offense we run right now because it obviously got us where we’re at, but I miss what went on in ’94

by blogue20 on Dec 11, 2008 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Luck Pat, We Need Newsome

I wish him the best of luck. It’s hard to see him go because I really think he could have been great for us, and a class act from what I hear. But for his development and future career, this is the best move for him. Look at Flacco. I wanted him to start this year and be a 3 yr starter, and to be honest still think we would be 11-1 with him starting.

Does anyone have an inside scouting accounts they can help us with on Newsome? He recently made an official to PSU and it seems like it’s between us and VT. I heard he was going to announce at the All American Game and enroll in Jan. But maybe he will decide prior to that. I don’t know much about Boyd, but want Newsome over him.

by Craig07 on Dec 11, 2008 10:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Everyone is going Flacco crazy, lol.

He is one guy from a FCS school out of thousands through the years. Plus Flacco went to Deleware and who knows where Pat will end up. If he goes to Towson the only place anyone will ever hear his name again is on this board.

by markpsu on Dec 11, 2008 12:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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