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Penn State Basketball Update

When we last left our heroes they were about to begin a four game road stretch that was going to go a long way toward determining how successful their season would be. We're three games through that stretch, and so far the results are mixed.

The Nittany Lions started off well with an 85-73 win over Penn at the Palestra. They dominated the first half doubling up the Quakers 49-24 by the intermission. But they coasted in the second half and allowed Penn to cut the lead to ten, but they held on thanks to some solid free throw shooting to get the win. Talor Battle and Stanley Pringle were sensational scoring 24 and 25 points respectively. Cornley chipped in 16 points to go with his 9 rebounds.

Penn State stayed in Philly to take on Rhode Island as part of the Philly Hoop Group Classic. After trailing for most of the game, Penn State rallied and had a chance to tie the game in the final seconds, but Pringle's three point attempt was off the mark and the Nittany Lions suffered their first loss of the season. For the first time this season our guards were outplayed. Jimmy Baron scored 20 points and gave Battle fits on defense all night. Battle finished with 15 points on 4-of-16 shooting.

So Penn State was forced to settle for the consolation game against Towson on Saturday. It was a dangerous game for State. They could have come out hung over and tired from the night before and played down to the level of their inferior opponent. But instead they came out firing on all cylinders and responded with a resounding 78-54 victory. Battle nearly scored a triple-double with 15 points, 9 rebounds, and 8 assists.

What we've learned so far...

  • Talor Battle is a star and easily the best kept secret in the conference. If he played in the Big East or the Big XII everyone would be talking about him being a future lottery pick. When he and Stanley Pringle are on we can play with anyone in the country.
  • We are not very deep. Ed is playing just six or seven guys for most of the game. Battle in particular is playing a ton of minutes. If Woodyard and Babb can't get up to speed and allow him to rest for a few minutes here and there I'm afraid we're going to wear down late in the season.
  • This team has learned how to win away from the Jordan Center. Does everyone remember the big fat egg we layed in the Old Spice Classic last year? Though it would have been nice to beat Rhode Island and get a shot at Villanova, they responded well following the loss and played solid basketball against Towson. Last year they would have never got their mojo back until they went back home.
  • Somebody has to step up and help Cornley in the paint. Jones took a big step toward that with eight points and 13 rebounds against Towson.

Next up the Nittany Lions travel to Georgia Tech on Wednesday (7:30 PM) to compete in the ACC/Big Ten Challenge on ESPN2. Then they return home on Saturday for a huge game against Temple. That game will be televised on the Big Ten Network at 6 PM. We'll have your open threads here.

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my thoughts

now i realize all the stipulations surrounding everything Eddie D, but i can’t help but notice that he’s been there for 5 years, and each of the five we say “well his bench isn’t very deep” and “they can’t find a way to win away from home.” Even if he doesn’t have the best recruiting base and loses players here and there for whatever reason, shouldn’t Eddie D have found a way to combat these re-occurring problems and motivate his players to want to win, or am I missing something? I feel there’s no reason we shouldn’t be competitive in the Big Ten year in and year out. Sure we don’t get the big profile recruits, but it also seems Eddie doesn’t even get recruits that fit in his scheme.

For the glory

by lionalum05 on Dec 2, 2008 11:38 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A fair knock

I think the key for Ed has been to just show progress. He came into a program at an all time low. They first thing he had to do was just turn around the attitude to keep the players he had. He had a lot of trouble just keeping his best players from transferring out of the program.

He did that and in 2006 he managed to keep a core group of players (Walker, Hassell, Claxton, Parker, Mooch, and Cornley) who believed in the program and played hard. That was step two. Getting a decent starting lineup. That team went to the NIT.

Step three is building the bench. 2006-2007 was a major step back. Having only lost Travis Parker, and bringing in a host of new freshman, that team should have got better. But they didn’t for whatever reason. The freshmen were either redshirted or injured and didn’t contribute.

2007-2008 had potential. Once Talor Battle settled into his starting role and Jackson and Jones started coming around it looked like we were making a major step forward. But the injury to Claxton set us back again. Half the season was lost, but by the end guys like Brooks and Jackson started coming around. We could have had some nice depth if not for the injuries to Claxton and Cornley.

We’ll see what this year holds. Jones, Jackson, and Brooks look better than last year, but we have to remember they are all still sophomores. If they continue to improve we should have an excellent frontcourt the next two years. But we’ll need guys like Billy Oliver and Andrew Ott to also contribute. Then Ed has to go out and recruit some big men which he has failed miserably to do. Geary Claxton would be a guard at UNC, but at Penn State he was forced to play small forward. Cornley would be a small forward at Duke, but here he has to play power forward and even center at times. They are going up against guys that have a five inch advantage over them. I’m hoping Preston Lewis can recruit some big men for us. Ed has no problems bring in guards.

by BSD on Dec 2, 2008 12:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's hope

I agree with you on recruiting. I think there are more good guards to choose from as opposed to big guys.
The competition for guards (3 stars) is less and Ed can recruit good quality. Competing for the big guys is a different story. That’s why Ed tried Europe in his early years with little success. However one hurdle has been recently over come. A quote from the Nittany Lion Club news by on recruiting:

Improvements to facilities provided an offseason boost for the basketball program, and it was a necessary boost. You can’t tell 17 year olds you’re serious and them not see what they see at other places" Dechellis said. “With what we have now, they go to the locker room and it’s ‘wow,’ and the practice facility and it’s ‘wow’ and our office and it’s ‘wow.’ We’re in the ballgame. We can compete now with the other teams in terms of facilities.” In addition, summer camp attendance has jumped from just a dozen teams six yea5s ago to 68 and some 1,000 participants, this past summer.

If you don’t have the facilities or successful camps then your ability to recruit is diminished. It looks like Penn State has finally got their act together in these 2 areas. It remains to be seen if we can actually attract some 4 or 5 star recruits.

by ageing lion on Dec 2, 2008 8:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry for the Typos !!!!!

I accidentally hit the wrong key while editing and the post was submitted.

by ageing lion on Dec 2, 2008 8:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we need a few big guys

There are going to be three storylines this year. Our shooting %, our bench strenth, and our size. Our shooting is at least as good, if not better, than we have ever had a Penn State. That will let us win a lot of games this year. If we are on we will compete with good teams. If we are off, we are in trouble. When our shooting is off we will have to really push to stay in games. Our bench is thin so we will get tired then as soon as we slow down and stop using our quickness… size is going to kill us. In short, we will get tired and then get destroyed inside.
We have a transfer from Villanova who will start playing in a few weeks. That is an additional big guy I hope will help us. We really need Jackson, Jones, and Brooks to play big this year.

What we really need for the future is to recruit a few true big men, (who are good) so the mid sized guys can stop playing out of position.

Peter

by psuboy on Dec 3, 2008 9:25 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ACC/Big-Ten challenge

Currently, the challenge is tied at 3-3, and I’m hoping that Penn State pulls out the win tonight to help the Big Ten finally win this thing. Of course, if they win and the rest of the Big Ten sucks tonight, well, I’m sure I’ll still sleep well tonight.

As for the depth, there’s a give-and-take deal here. We have the players on the bench, but they’re not as good in game situations. But most don’t have the experience in game situations to help. But they won’t get experience unless they’re used in these games and… I’m sure you see where this one goes. It’s going to be up to Ed to determine how much faith he has in the young guys so our top guys can give us a full effort late in the season.

by IcersGuy on Dec 3, 2008 2:17 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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