Nitt Picks is Stirring the Drink
Cuz I know you guys love these, more perspective on the USC-PSU Rose Bowl matchup from the west coast.
The Rose Bowl is bittersweet for USC.
Had Oregon State beaten Oregon, USC could have faced an opponent from the Big XII or SEC in the Sugar Bowl or Fiesta Bowl.
“I would like to play somewhere different, but if the Rose Bowl is what it is, then the Rose Bowl is what it is,” defensive end Kyle Moore said.
USC’s roster is littered with seniors set to make their fourth-consecutive Rose Bowl appearance with a victory against UCLA on Saturday. It would set up the Trojans’ third consecutive meeting with the Big Ten — Penn State has already clinched its spot.
After losing to Texas in the 2006 Rose Bowl, also the BCS title game, USC has won handily the past two seasons against Michigan and Illinois.
“Of course we want to go somewhere else and play other people. It’s whatever now,” senior defensive end Fili Moala said. “I definitely would like to play someone they think we can’t beat.
“I think if people take a good look at our team they’ll notice we’re one of the two best teams in the nation. I don’t think anyone can touch us.”
They just feel like they don't have much to play for anymore.
When you consider USC coach Pete Carroll proclaimed this his best defense and the Pac-10 Conference is worse than ever during his tenure, one would think the Trojans should be playing for the national championship.But the Trojans instead face struggling UCLA with only the Rose Bowl at stake. That is the prevailing view anyway, except for Carroll.
Only the Rose Bowl, eh? Well I guess they like their chances.
USC, though, looks to be the clear favorite. Playing in their fourth consecutive Rose Bowl, the Trojans have disposed of two straight Big Ten opponents-Michigan in 2007, Illinois in 2008.Now, Penn State coach Joe Paterno gets his shot. In a matchup of two top-10 squads, the difference could well be the USC defense and the ability of both Carroll and Paterno to adjust.
If that's the case, one has to like the Trojans' chances at taking a third straight Rose Bowl win and landing in the top four national rankings for the seventh straight season.
I don't understand. If the game comes down to adjustments it favors USC? How so? You think Joe Paterno won 380-some games by throwing rock every time?
Is USC actually considering throwing the UCLA game just to get a matchup against a Big XII team?
The ironic part is that whoever winds up as the Big 12's third-place team -- Texas, Texas Tech or Oklahoma* -- will probably provide a better game than Penn State. By beating the Bruins, the Trojans actually condemn themselves to a lesser bowl opponent.Nice work, football gods.
Yes, because it would be so much more fair on the part of the football Gods if Penn State had to play Oregon State, a team they already defeated 45-14 earlier this year, instead of creating a matchup between two top 10 teams steeped in rich tradition in the greatest post season stage of them all. That would suck. And of course, if the Big XII gets two teams into the BCS, that means USC would face the Big XII's fourth place team, and not the third place team. That would probably be Oklahoma State. So if you think it looks better to lose to UCLA just so you can play Oklahoma State, go ahead and knock yourself out.
If this kind of stuff angers you to read, good. Get used to it. There is going to be a steady diet of it over the next month, and BSD intends to see to it that you read every word of it.
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sheesh
there is going to be no room left in the psu locker stalls with the constant bulletin board material being presented by the press and usc players.
http://glassesofjoe.blogspot.com/
by psudrozz on Dec 2, 2008 5:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Penn State 08 = Illinois 07 = Michigan 06 ???
Fascinating stuff. I had no idea that this year we were watching the same team that could hardly beat Anthony Morelli’s Nittany Lions at home last year (Illinois 07), or that we were watching a team whose defense was a complete sieve in ‘06 (Michigan). For the last 12 weeks I’ve mistakenly been of the impression that Penn State 08 was a unique configuration of players and coaching staff yet unseen. Call it the magic of television I guess.
Can’t help but wonder what tragic event caused those poor, unfortunate Trojans to be ‘stuck’ in the Rose Bowl playing a Big Ten team each of the last 3 years?
Oh yeah, they are 0-3 in the state of Oregon the last 3 years, they couldn’t beat a mediocre UCLA in 06, and they lost to 4-8 Stanford in 07.
But oooooo, this year their defense has “athletes”!! Ohhh wow! And they really “fly to the football”…amazing!
One would think that if any program was going to learn the lessons of over looking teams it would be USC with 5 chokes on its resume in the last 3 years. But apparently not. Just keep blocking out the light with those sun glasses…because you really are that cool.
Meanwhile, Pete Carroll keeps focused on what color uniform his team can wear this weekend.
by NittanyBadger on Dec 2, 2008 5:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
They also have messages on their fake eye black. FEEL ME SON! FEEL ME! LOOK AT MY EYES, OR JUST DIRECTLY BELOW THEM….READ THAT MESSAGE BITCH! READ IT! THEN LOOK AT MY EYES! YOU FEEL ME YET??
by speedomike on Dec 2, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The 814
I wish we had some cool white guys to display the ol’ 814 under their eyes.
Where the hell is a Ganter brother when we need one?
by NittanyBadger on Dec 2, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
CHICKEN COSMO
Feed me son! Feed me!
Its a damn shame the Chicken Cosmo is no more. But perhaps a little eye black message is just the thing to get some momentum rolling towards bringing back the Cosmo.
Food related items I’d also like to see make a comeback: The Penn State Sub Shop being cool again. The framed pictures on the wall with people in cool places with a sub shop wrapper take me back to another time when life was simple and The Sub Shop was awesome…yes, the 1980s.
by NittanyBadger on Dec 2, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That'd be sooo badass
I love it!
pax et amor
by jtothep on Dec 3, 2008 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I do not feel sorry for them at all
If you want something bigger than the Rose Bowl, GO UNDEFEATED!!
USC decides to choke at least once a year, keeping them out of the MNC game, they have to go to the Rose Bowl, and now I’m supposed to feel bad about it.
Well boo hoo.
When you’ve won ALL your games and you’re not in the NC game, maybe then I’ll feel a little bit sorry for you.
sheesh
by NJ lion on Dec 2, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not the smart way to talk...
… USC fans and players should be saying ‘we should be playing Penn State in the BCS title game, not the Rose Bowl; they’re not Ohio State, and it’s not our fault Washington and Washington State are bad’.
by drothgery on Dec 2, 2008 5:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Calm down
you are being entirely too reasonable here.
by Roland86 on Dec 2, 2008 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and it’s not our fault Washington and Washington State are bad
“Bad” isn’t even close to the right word.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on Dec 2, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get an English major in here?
To find a word to adequately describe the level of “bad”
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 2, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
An English major?
How about Groundskeeper Wilie?
“Cheese-eating surrender monkeys!”
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Dec 3, 2008 6:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The 3 words to describe them are, and I quote
Stink, stank, stunk
by NJ lion on Dec 3, 2008 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Huh?
Uh, what the heck makes people think that if they throw the game vs. UCLA that they would be in the BCS at all? UCLA is 4-6. You lose to a 4-6 team as a Top 10 team, your top 10 status is in jeopardy.
by Bleed Blue 'n White on Dec 2, 2008 6:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think their theory
is that USC would fall out of the BCS and into a bowl against a Big XII team. However, as Kevin pointed out, the Big XII is getting 2 BCS births (most likely the MNC and the Fiesta’s at large), and then the third team is going to the Cotton Bowl. Too bad for USC that the Cotton Bowl then picks a team from the SEC. Minor details, eh?
USC “falls” to the Holiday Bowl against the Big XII’s 4th pick – either Okie State or Mizzou. I’m sure it’s the dream matchup all the Trojans have been waiting for this season…
by IcersGuy on Dec 2, 2008 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
I’ve seen the “falling to the Holiday Bowl would result in a better opponent” logic and don’t get it. It’s almost like the idiots writing this stuff don’t realize that the Cotton will get the one team let out among the Big 12’s top three. So, unless Mizzou upsets Oklahoma, you’re looking at a 3-4 loss team in the Holiday Bowl.
Or do USC fans think that it’s possible that they’d get an at large BCS bid coming off a loss?
by Laaaaazzz on Dec 2, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I don't get...
What I don’t understand is whether or not USC fans realize that any argument made against Penn State not being a good opponent can be made against USC as well.
- Big Ten a weak conference? The PAC-10 by any objective measure is worse.
- Penn State has 3 wins in the Top 25, one in the top 10. USC has 3 wins in the Top 25, one in the Top 10 (the same team, in fact).
- Penn State lost to a 4-loss team ranked #26 in the AP poll. USC lost to a 4-loss team ranked #25 in the AP poll.
- Penn State played 2 BCS conference teams out-of-conference. USC played 2 BCS conference teams (if you include Notre Dame) out-of-conference.
So perhaps the proper response to “if we lost to UCLA, we’d get a better opponent” is “you do realize you’re criticizing yourself, right?”
by Bleed Blue 'n White on Dec 2, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Close, but....
USC actually played three BCS conference opponents in non-conference (tOSU, Notre Dame, and Virginia) — out of 3 non-conference games. I agree with the bulk of your post and don’t think USC has performed any better this season than PSU, but their non-conference schedule was certainly a very good slate.
by Laaaaazzz on Dec 2, 2008 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to acknowledge ND as a "BCS conference opponent"
First, they’re not in a conference.
Second, they are not now, haven’t been for a while, and hopefully won’t be for a long time, BCS worthy.
Syracuse > ND
by NJ lion on Dec 2, 2008 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Transitive Property
My 2003 Co-ed Intramural Flag Football team > Syracuse > ND.
We put a girl at quarterback so that all receivers were eligible on all downs. She was very much into her appearance and struggled with accuracy. She was Jimmy Claussen before Jimmy Claussen.
by NittanyBadger on Dec 2, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your girl QB......sounds like
Unless she looked like an emu
by NJ lion on Dec 2, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh.....I meant she sounds hot
getting sleepy.
time for bed.
by NJ lion on Dec 2, 2008 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So
Middling ACC + Crap ND + tOSU >>> OrSt + ’Cuse + Temple?
Um, I doth protest. Your third beats ours, but our first two beat yours (in the ’Cuse/ND case, literally)
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 2, 2008 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well technically
our first beat YOU
our second beat your second
but yes, all 3 of yours would probably beat our third…so you guys have that going for ya
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2008 7:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
which isn’t so nice.
Onward to the Rose Bowl!!!!!
Traped in the SF Bay area.....nothing like kickoff at 9 am.
by bconway6 on Dec 3, 2008 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It helps to be USC
Then you may not drop out of the top ten when you lose to a cupcake.
by dawsonPSU10 on Dec 2, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This stuff doesn't make me angry.
Au contraire; the more, the better.
It’s reminding me more and more of the ’87 Fiesta Bowl.
Keep it coming, please………
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Dec 2, 2008 6:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
USC is getting a little too comfortable with their greatness.
If they are so good how did Oregon State take them out back and beat them with a 2×4. I am looking very forward to this game.
We just needed a couple players, a couple people to buy in to the fact and we were able to do it. --A.Q. Shipley
by psu on Dec 2, 2008 6:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kool-aid, baby!
JoePa for governor
by ReadingRambler on Dec 2, 2008 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that I got the fat-fingers quick post out of the way...
Let the speculation begin. A potential young receiver for a developing Pryor in ’09? A huge plug in an otherwise depleted receiving corps for Penn State in ’09?
Interesting stuff.
by MainLion on Dec 2, 2008 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is kinda strange
considering he only has 1 year of eligibilty left, and if he goes to a 1-A school he’d have to wait till 2010 to play.
by whiteoutonly on Dec 2, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you read the first comment on that board?
My bet is hes going to Penn State-his dad wanted him there in the first place, its close to home, AND they graduate a great crop of recievers this year so after sitting out he could step right in and play in the Slow-10..i meant Big10
This is going to be so sweet if we win.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Dec 2, 2008 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Major zinger there...
with the Slow-10 thing. A real knee slapper.
by jimbo2psu on Dec 3, 2008 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just like the
Lack-10… or Puke-10, or whatever out west
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2008 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Woah
I am getting old. I didn’t realize he is a junior. I swore he enrolled at USC last year. I guess it shows how little attention I pay to any school but PSU.
by MainLion on Dec 2, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Screw USC
The whole point of the BCS is to determine a national champion. Like it or not, it’s what we’re stuck with. And like it or not, this means that EVERY game is a de facto playoff game.
So guess what, Trojans? WIN YOUR GAMES!! ALL OF THEM!! Then you won’t have to bitch about what could’ve been. Then we won’t have to hear you whine about “but but but WE’RE the most talented team (on paper) in the country!!” Then we can all ignore the myopic sportswriters bemoaning the fact that their darling little “men of Troy” don’t get the chance to settle it on the field. You had your chance, and you blew it…tough crap.
This isn’t the NFL (or perhaps more accurately, the NBA), where you can play mediocre ball during the regular season and “save yourselves” for the postseason. You shot yourselves in the foot when you get curb-stomped by a team we dismantled (don’t let the score fool you, their “juggernaut offense” went scoreless in the 1st half).
Are we crying that we’re not in the MNC game? We missed being undefeated by one second. ONE SECOND!! Against a team that might finish 2nd or 3rd in the lowly Pac-1. No, we’re not crying. We’re relishing our opportunity. We live for these types of games.
So please, keep telling us we can’t win. Keep mouthing off to the media. Keep yawning about the situation you put yourselves in. Let Petey keep treating SoCal like his own personal Dude Ranch. JoePa and the boys will be ready, and don’t think we’ll forget a single word that has been said.
So wear your little eye black, but maybe more importantly, be sure to buckle up that chinstrap. Because you’re about to be punched in your primadonna mouths.
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Dec 2, 2008 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ty well put
Ben and Alex... first commits for 2024
by 3Yardout on Dec 2, 2008 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm bitching we're not in the MNC game ;-)
but only because there’s a fairly good chance that there will be TWO 1-loss teams in the MNC game, and I don’t see why any of them are obviously better than PSU (or USC for that matter).
Actually I’m more bitching for a playoff, and not necessarily that we should be in the MNC game over any of the other teams, either.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2008 7:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WIN YOUR GAMES!! ALL OF THEM!! Then you won’t have to bitch about what could’ve been.
Unless you’re Boise State or Utah.
Just sayin’
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Dec 3, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this was my fave
…comment from LA Times article
You’re forgetting about another common opponent-Ohio State, which you beat by a TD. As I recall, USC beat Ohio State by 32. It goes to show that mathematical comparisons don’t always work that well. How many overrated, slow BigTen teams must USC beat to make you realize that you simply can’t compete (Iowa, Michigan twice, Illinois, Ohio State).
wonder if this guy realizes that USC still lost to Oregon State and we beat BOTH teams. mathematically two wins is larger than 1 win…at least, in the East it is…
by amandakt on Dec 3, 2008 1:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
not only that
but the combined score is 31+7 = 38 point margin of victory for us over the 2 OSUs, and theirs is 32 – 6 = 26 point margin of victory for USC over the 2 OSUs.
Apparently their 32 point victory of a team we also beat is significantly better than our 31 point victory to a team they LOST to. Man, I wish we went for 2 on one of the TDs, so that they wouldn’t have that “super point of doom” in their favor.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 3, 2008 7:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We beat Ohio State in the Shoe.
We beat Ohio State in the Shoe, with a healthy Beanie Wells, and after Pryor had, seemingly, found a rhythm. Ohio State had to travel across the country to play USC without their starting RB. I mean, you could make the argument that Oregon State had to travel across the country to face us, but we were without what was arguably our best defensive player at the time (Mo Evans) and a starting defensive tackle. Plus, you still had the veil of the Outside the Lines piece hanging over us (Funny how you haven’t heard SHIT abut that in a while). If USC was as good as they claim to be, they would have beat down Oregon State, too. Instead, Quizz Rogers made that defense look foolish.
I think the most shocking part of this isn’t that the media is spouting off the USC coronation jibberish. The USC players are saying it too! You can expect the media to print this crap, but for the USC players to echo it is unbelievable!
by Spats on Dec 3, 2008 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Feel me

Maybe Cushing’s eye black is referring to his man tits. Feel me up?
by speedomike on Dec 3, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like somebody...........
has a case of the bitch tits. Just sayin.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on Dec 3, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he needs a bro
We just needed a couple players, a couple people to buy in to the fact and we were able to do it. --A.Q. Shipley
by psu on Dec 3, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
USC school for girls
Every year we are told that USC is the best team ever. Every year they play the patsies of the Pac Ten, and are never undefeated. Blah, Blah, Blah…
Hey, you hollywood Panzies, wait till you get a good dose of Jarid Odrick on your sissy QB. As for Defense, Royster and company will prove that your Oregon State loss was no fluke. You are over-rated . . . every year.
Matt Leinert after losing to Texas,“we’re still the best team.” boo-hoo-hoo.
What a bunch of whiners. Can’t wait till we rip your heads off and vomit in the holes.
Go Lions!
by pastormike7 on Dec 5, 2008 2:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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