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Now Peter King bashing Paterno?

 

 

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In the latest Monday Morning QB Peter King questions Joe Paterno's recent contract extension:

Penn State is insane. A three-year contract extension for an 82-year-old coach who has had recent health problems? Why is there no one at this august institution who can tell a man whom the school isn't positive can even STAND on the sideline every week that it's time to step down? Can anyone who bleeds Nittany blue honestly tell me Paterno has the energy to out-recruit coaches 40 years his junior for the best football players in the country?

I don't understand why King would go here when PSU is in the midst of an 11-1 season that includes an invitation to the Rose Bowl.

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Well obviously our recruiting has fallen by the wayside

oh…wait….

So apparently we have an 82 year old coach who can put together a program that can still win games and still lure in top recruits. Man, let’s get rid of him soon!

by The JuggerNitt on Dec 22, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Peter King = Idiot

It’s the same, very simple math used for Mark Mays, etc.

by NJ lion on Dec 22, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't dismiss King so easily

He has an agenda but he’s widely read. Nobody takes a talking head like Mark May seriously.

by DK Jr. on Dec 22, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about that, King is pretty stupid

I usually listen to King’s show in the morning, he’s pretty full of himself and his opinions. He’s one of these guys that thinks he’s really hilarious and witty, and who enjoys the sound of his own voice. He named one of his sidekicks McLuvin, and acts like he came up with that name himself.

This very morning one of his vapid sidekicks and King had the following discussion about the bowls this season:

King “Yeah, I was watching this Miss State Troy game, boy were those uniforms ugly, it was like someone lost a bet and had to wear those horrible yellow uniforms” (it was So. Miss and Troy, not Miss St)

SideKick: “Which one was it wearing the yellow uniforms, Miss State?”

King “No it was Troy” (it was So Miss, actually. Troy wore red) “But you know that game was pointless, it doesn’t mean anything. Why should I watch a game that doesn’t mean anything?”

SideKick “yeah like why would I want to watch the Rose bowl, just to see Penn State get waxed by USC”…

by millzners on Dec 22, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wait, maybe that was dan patrick. I get those two confused all the time.

by millzners on Dec 22, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dan patrick

I confirmed this morning it was in fact the Dan Patrick show. so take everything I said and replace King with Patrick.

And yes, the sidekick said that word-for-word with all the smarmy douchiness you can imagine. I wanted to punch my radio.

by millzners on Dec 23, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually don't read Peter King

And I’ve given up on trying to read what many of the so-called “sports experts” have to say after the non-stop JoePa bashing regarding his age, his health, his salary, his recruiting, etc etc etc. I know Joe’s not perfect, but I’m so sick of these guys making such ridiculous and personal comments (“Why is there no one at this august institution who can tell a man whom the school isn’t positive can even STAND on the sideline every week that it’s time to step down?”)

Maybe I’m just a super-homer. Pass the blue and white kool-aid!

by NJ lion on Dec 22, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Loyalty is dead

Though I like Peter King, these people bleed football football football, the high testosterone, cut throat business and everything that comes with it. Sensibility has gone out the door.

It’s JUST football.

What worries me even more is this mentality bleeding into our everyday life. We will be a sad, sorry country if we do.

by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 22, 2008 2:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Peter King

I generally enjoy reading Peter King’s articles. He provides generally good insight on the NFL, aside from his occasional puff piece on Brett Favre (though most NFL columnists do that anyway). Don’t get me started on his other pieces of his columns. I don’t care about his damn kids or what movie he thinks is really funny.

However, Peter King consistently laments that he doesn’t really care for college football. That’s fine… he’s entitled to his opinion, and he’s not a college football columnist. However, in the business world of the NFL, 99.9% of all your decisions are strictly business, not personal decisions. This is not true in college football.

Clearly, keeping Joe Paterno at Penn State is not based entirely on business reasons. We could debate semantics and talk about his donations, booster donations, and NLC memberships, but keeping Joe Paterno is a personal issue. Even when Joe can rattle off a pretty shitty start to the decade, as was the case from 2000-2004, and still receive an extension, it’s a personal decision. Most fans (myself admittedly included) wouldn’t have had too many qualms with Joe being gone after 2004. In retrospect, we’re glad he isn’t.

Personally, I’m fine with that. I’d rather be a consistently good program with a legendary coach then a program that goes from the (insert current hot coach name here) method of firing coaches after one bad season. Is it the best decision from a pure business standpoint? Maybe not. But anytime you can pull off an 11-1 season, land some pretty good recruits, and still drag your ass out to the sidelines at age 82, you deserve to be rewarded for that work. Joe has earned this extension.

by shadowfax on Dec 22, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Usually

Peter King says nice things about Penn State, I can recall him specifically talking about the PSU/Ohio State game in 2005. I read his column every week, and no college team gets more ink in MMQB than Penn State. He once even stated that he almost went to Penn State, and that it was his second choicewhen he picking colleges (went to Ohio Univ.). I think he’s a fan actually.

What got me about it is that he ignored the “terms subject to change provision” and the guarantees for the assistant coaches. It just seemed like a knee jerk reaction to the news, which is strange for Peter King.

I sent him an email, but I bet 10,000 other people did too.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Dec 22, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's one thing.

King will apologize if he feels he’s made a rash comment. I would assume that he’ll do so. Pretty classy articles, so this one was a surprise.

by Cairo on Dec 22, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Many media companies have encouraged their columnists to comment on topics outside of their focus. I’ve been in a few newspapers where they are trying to build internal momentum around “personalities” (even if you’re the “food critic” in shittown hartford). It’s another way that misguided publishers are trying to prevent their product from becoming a commodity – you might get the same news anywhere, but if you really like this “personality” you’ll return to their source.

In my experience, you end up having a lot of people who are expert at one thing wasting my time commenting on something that they know nothing about, and as in the case here, just repeating the opinion of the loudest/least educated majority.

by InScoresOfOtherGames on Dec 22, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So, what's good to eat in Hartford?

A Miss. State / Troy college football game?

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 23, 2008 11:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My basic response to any JoePa bashing is why

Don’t we hear the same stuff about Bowden? They are essentially the same age, and while JoePa has more health problems, PSU is regularly winning more games then Florida State (as of the last 4-5 years), so why not the talk about how Bowden can’t get it done anymore? Maybe FSU’s recruiting is “better” (everyone knows the star system is flawed), but as mentioned many times, JoePa is recruiting to a cow college. I just don’t understand why the hate for one coach but not the other?

As a side note, I still have tremendous respect for Bowden and wish not to see him gone either until he’s ready, I was just trying to make a point.

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 22, 2008 4:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's possible Bowden is getting similar treatment

But we only take note of the JoePa articles, either due to being in markets that cover PSU more than FSU or that we’re just more sensitive about the topic if Paterno is the subject.

by DK Jr. on Dec 22, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can say as a neutral party

And being on the West Coast, I’ve heard nothing about Bowden needing to be let go. I have heard ton about Paterno. Now that’s not to say that there isn’t stuff in Florida that discusses BB needing to retire, but I’m just talking about what is heard through national media.

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 22, 2008 5:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Jimbo plan has taken the

heat off of Bowden to retire.

pinkertonpark.com - you owe yerself a laugh.

by rahpsu92 on Dec 23, 2008 10:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My opinion........

is the glasses and Joe has made some questionable comments in the last 5 years in pressers that have made you scratch your head and wonder if he was losing it. He doesn’t seem as lucid as Bowden does. He may very well be every bit as lucid, but his pressers and his halftime commentaries aren’t as spry sounding as Bowden’s. That’s just my opinion. Paterno comes off more like the old crotchety guy across the street that doesn’t want kids in his yard and Bowden comes off more like an old guy completel in tune with “tech messaging” (the hip shades, the nice FSU apparell….the Panama Jack and Baseball hats etc.)

Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Dec 22, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so.

I’ve seen some quick-hit interviews with Bowden this year, and sometimes he seems pretty…lost, I guess. I think Joe looked awfully subdued this year because, quite frankly, he was in non-stop pain, and probably medicated for it. He looked 1000% better last week while bouncing back from his surgery.

I expect to see him on the Rose Bowl sideline, screaming at officials, getting in player’s faces, and not looking a day older than 75 years, 5 months.

Mr. Peabody, fire up the WayBack Machine, and set it for Jan 2, 1987.

Vroom vroom.

'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'

by Pete the Streak on Dec 22, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cow college?

I hope you’re saying that in a kind way.

Moooo

by NJ lion on Dec 22, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course!

So-called “cow colleges” were what this country was built on. People forget the importance that ag has in every day life. “Sexier” universities love their philosphies, law schools, and what not. Cow colleges feed you.

A great bumped sticker I once saw on a combine, chuggin along in front of a mile long line of cars honking:

“Have you fed your kid today? Quit honkin and get off my f*in ass!”

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 23, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure you're not really a PSU alum?

You’ve got almost as much admiration for Penn State as most Penn State alum.
"Cow colleges" were what this country was built on – maybe the Land Grant Trophy should be a bronze cow.

That bumper sticker reminds me of my bus ride to elementary school in my PA pork town, hoping a tractor would pull out on the road in front of us so we’d be late for school!

by NJ lion on Dec 23, 2008 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take

Joe’s sandbagging versus Bowden’s folksy stupidity any day.
I’ll agree, joe’s responses often leave you guessing – I’m of the belief that’s intentional

by InScoresOfOtherGames on Dec 22, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

Intentional… Joe is more intelligent than people give him credit for when he’s speaking to the media. He’s a master at giving them almost nothing and making them feel like thats all he’s got on the subject. I wonder if any of the anti-joepa, anti-psu sentiment thats floating around the media has to do with PSU and other Big Ten officials (both rightly and wrongly) pointing out that The Big Ten is full of classy institutions for the most part that recruit above-board, regularly graduate athletes, and actually hold them to some kind of standard in the classroom. I’m not quite sure that many (not all) SEC schools and some ACC schools (I’m looking at you FSU) can make that claim with any degree of sincerity. When you make claims like that (Commissioner of Big Ten) you put a target on your back, its that simple.

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Dec 22, 2008 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Peter King

One of my favorite sports-related blogs, Kissing Suzy Kolber, has been spoofing Peter King’s columns for some time. They seem to enjoy focusing on King’s apparent man-crush on Brett Favre, but they did happen to effectively destroy him for his comments on Paterno.

King – “Penn State is insane. A three-year contract extension for an 82-year-old coach who has had recent health problems? Why is there no one at this august institution who can tell a man whom the school isn’t positive can even STAND on the sideline every week that it’s time to step down? Can anyone who bleeds Nittany blue honestly tell me Paterno has the energy to out-recruit coaches 40 years his junior for the best football players in the country?”

KSK- “For real. It’s not like they went to the Rose Bowl this year. And it’s not like JoePa could just go hire talented people to go recruit for him while he remains an effective figurehead. Or like he helped build half of the school. STOP FOOLING YOURSELVES, YOU PEOPLE! HOW CAN ANYONE POSSIBLY LEAD WITHOUT THE POWER TO STAND?” (Note: They then link to a photo of FDR)

Peter King Loves Men Who Work the Land

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Dec 22, 2008 7:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Somewhere in SoCal and in Maryland...

Lavar and JoePa simultaneously said…..“Who’s Peter King?”

by RNF18 on Dec 23, 2008 9:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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