Bowling For LOLers
Tough slate of bowl opponents for the conference. Your Big Ten Bowlers:
Champs Sports
Wisconsin vs. Florida State Orlando, Fla.
Florida Citrus Bowl Dec. 27, 4:30 p.m.
Alamo
Missouri vs. Northwestern San Antonio
Alamodome Dec. 29, 8 p.m.
Insight
Kansas vs. Minnesota Tempe, Ariz.
Sun Devil Stadium Dec. 31, 5:30 p.m.
Outback
South Carolina vs. Iowa Tampa, Fla.
Raymond James Stadium Jan. 1, 2009, 11 a.m.
Capital One
Georgia vs. Michigan State Orlando, Fla.
Florida Citrus Bowl Jan. 1, 2009, 1 p.m.
Rose Bowl Game
Penn State vs. USC Pasadena, Calif.
Rose Bowl Jan. 1, 2009, 4:30 p.m.
Fiesta
Ohio State vs. Texas Glendale, Ariz.
University of Phoenix Stadium Jan. 5, 2009, 8 p.m.
Haven't seen any odds yet, but I have to think that Iowa is the only team that will be favored*. The Champs Sports Bowl is likely to be an ugly Wisconsin loss. Kansas and Missouri aren't great, but they're better than the soft middle of Big Ten**. Similarly, even though Georgia is wildly over-rated on an annual basis, Sparty's in for a solid pounding in the Cap One. We already know Penn State and Ohio State will be underdogs***.
The theme for Big Ten bowl teams? Nothing to lose. It's not like the conference's reputation could get much worse.
* - That may be last-resort wishful thinking in order to just have one favored team.
** - Although I could totally see Northwestern winning that game, somehow.
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I predict 4 and 3
With PSU, tOSU, Iowa, and NU all winning. I’m also expecting Sparty to do okay.
Optimism can’t hurt, can it?
JoePa for governor
In the 7 years since the 2003 Fiesta Bowl
Ohio State has played in 4 Fiesta Bowls. And one of their NC game losses, in 2007 was in Arizona. So in 7 bowl seasons they have played 5 games in Arizona. Are Buckeyes fans just buying time share condos in Phoenix at this point?
I'm too country for Terrelle Pryor.
All this underdog-we-gunna-get-our-ass-kicked talk about the big ten and us
Just makes me think of the, “THEY SAID IT WAS OVER”/“We TOLD YOU SO VIDEO”.
I’m so jacked for the bowl games. Big Ten against the world, lets go.
Let's Go State
I do not say this as a Penn State fan, but
…PSU +10 seems like a gift to me.
by Run Up The Score on Dec 7, 2008 9:22 PM EST reply actions
I was expecting it to open higher
somewhere between 11 and 13.5…
I think the line is so high because most people think Petey and USC are god’s gift to mankind and we’re just lucky to be able to see such unbelievable football, blah, blah, fuck off, blah…but I don’t think it’s implied disrespect to the nits, though I’m sure I’m in the bsd minority on that one.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I could care less about the rest of the Big Ten.
We win our bowl games.
WE ARE!!! PENN STATE!!!
WE ARE!!! PENN STATE!!!
WE ARE!!! PENN STATE!!!
^THIS^
The rest of the Big 10 can kiss my ass. I care about one game and one game only, and that’s the Rose.
That said, the only game outside the Rose where I think the conference has a good chance of picking up a W is Iowa vs the other USC.
And PSU as 10 point ‘dogs? Vegas, you just want to give me free money, don’t you?
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I need to bet this game...
any suggestions on what sites good for putting down a bet?
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by TheMightyErik on Dec 7, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
If you don't want to go the betting exchange route
Sports bets over the internet can be accomplished from inside the U.S. I use a site called bookmaker.com which I’ve been pretty happy with. I found it through sportsbookreview.com. I do hear that pinnaclesports.com is the best but they do not take U.S. players.
I'm too country for Terrelle Pryor.
thank you, guys!
now I can go dig up my jar out of the yard and bet one of the two dollars in it. Thanks again and good luck to all of us putting down some cabbage
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by TheMightyErik on Dec 8, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
We need the rest of the Big Ten
There’s a reason USC and Penn State weren’t even in MNC talks – both live in conferences that are perceived as weak. Bowl season is a chance to win (or steal wins, whatever…) from the other BCS conferences and show some “worth”.
As the Texas fan pointed out in one of the fan posts – all of our respect was lost by tOSU’s previous failings.
I will never root for Ohio State, sorry
OSU crapped the bed and ruined our conference’s reputation, thus making it more difficult for us to get any recognition. Then they continued to talk as if they were still the best team in the country and the predestined big ten champs before playing a single game.
They lost two games but had an overwhelming sense of entitlement to a BCS bowl game, anything less would mean they were getting screwed by the system…
In my mind, OSU deserves to lose badly and should. We can make our own repuation without the Big Ten or Ohio State. The sooner we draw a distinction the better. Screw Ohio St.
by millzners on Dec 8, 2008 8:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, I'm getting sick of "needing" OSU to win for us to look good
they won’t win, so what’s the point in caring anymore. If people won’t respect us for what we do, then I guess them’s the breaks.
I still don’t see what Penn State did or didn’t do that so obviously places us in 8th place, other than play in the Big 10. Not saying that any of the teams ahead of us should necessarily be behind us, but everyone just takes it as “fact” that Penn State is worse than all of them, when we have as good of a record as ANY other team in the BCS conferences, and only Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma can really claim that their loss is “better” than ours. Sure some of the teams have better “signature” wins than us, but not all of them do, and not all of those “big wins” were really that big in the end.
Ok…I guess that’s enough ranting for now :-p
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 8, 2008 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
Respectfully, of course (I’ve certainly got no fundamental issue with an inherent hate of brutus). I like to think of Ohio State as OUR little brother this year. They’re really kind of cute. Even when they douchily mention cochamps, we can tussle their hair and say ‘some day, little brother, just not this year.’ But it’s kinda like we’re 18 and graduating and about to go off to college and bone hotties or to war to fight terrorists, and they’re the 16yo with a few more years of high school football and HS bmoc steez goin on. And we know: they’re gonna be good.
I agree we can continue to draw distinctions, tho, and that starts with figuring out a way to score on the trojans. In a way they were unable to. Perhaps follow the quizz model of internal beaver penetration. Texas hasn’t seen a defense like tosu’s, tho. We got out of the Shoe with a great win, but they concussed our starting qb and held us to 13pts. They’ve also improved their ball-control offense and their freak athletic qb has gotten many more needed reps. They also have the traditional buckeye keep the foot on the snake mentality (to exceedingly douchey levels btw; see tosu/nw game).
And it’s good to keep an eye on them from afar because, like a little brother, we are inextricably linked and we play them next year. It’ll be interesting to see what happens when we come home from college or the war and little bro’s acting like he wants a piece of us. So, I’ll still root for that opportunity to mean more by a tosu win over the genuinely-screwed-by-the-system Horns.
pax et amor
That Quizz model
of internal beaver penetration sounds interesting, and something we should consider. If there’s initial resistance, we just keep probing and probing until we find that middle opening. When we DO locate it, we need to ram the Rolls – harder and harder – into the depth of their defense, until that small crease becomes a gaping pathway to glory.
Probably throw the ball, too. Balance is good.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Dec 8, 2008 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
wow... suddenly I need to logoff from here and go find the old lady
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by TheMightyErik on Dec 8, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Time to step up
I’m preaching to the choir here, but we need a strong showing this year to push the conference respect meter up towards the B12 and SEC and not further towards the ACC.
you expected something different?
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by TheMightyErik on Dec 7, 2008 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I was completely expecting it
but I will say, its not as bad as I would have expected. I like how someone already told him we beat OSU on the road, but like usual no one has mentioned that we faced a completely different OSU team than what USC did.
thats not too bad...
coming from a USC alumn
You find out life's this game of inches. And so is football.
by BleedingBlue4Psu on Dec 7, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
well...
He sounds like a homer who knows his team VERY well, and has a passing familiarity with the PSU via the Big 10. Not that I’m criticizing him. I think most fans are like that.
He’s wrong nevertheless.
by Mr. Rosewater on Dec 8, 2008 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with this, tho
The Oregon State and Texas-type games will happen on occasion but USC always keeps it close and has had an overall talent edge against everyone they’ve faced since sometime in 2002.
We’ll need another of those turnover- & penalty-free games like we had in the shoe to pull out a close one. And some turnovers of our own. Sanchez looks like he’s itchin to hand us some freebies; remember Reggie Bush’s lateral attempt vs. Texas? He’s playing that kinda way these days.
pax et amor
Conference hopes
The more I think about it, the more I realize the conference’s hopes for a winning bowl record this year are dim.
I, for one, think tOSU is to blame. If their large and involved fanbase weren’t a consideration for the BCS selection crew, they wouldn’t be in it. But now everyone underneath them is bumped up a rung on the ladder and is going to be underdogs. There is an excellent possibility that the conference will look like shit again in the bowls and tOSU will be to blame one more time.
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you need to be one of those 'glass is half full' people...
jk… I agree 100% with you. The Boise States of the country have to watch a 2 loss Buckeye team go cross country for a date with a pretty pissed off Texas team.
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by TheMightyErik on Dec 7, 2008 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but
Iowa, of the 6-6 variety, should have beaten an, I think, 10-2 Texas team in the Alamo Bowl a couple years ago. Now, Texas was in no way motivated but the talent differential was ridiculous. Never underestimate the ability of Mack Brown to screw the pooch when he’s against a slightly above mediocre coach with good players. He won’t like if it Pryor goes all Vince Young on him.
Anyway, and much more importantly, beat the shit out of USC.
Speaking of BSU...
How did the San Diego Credit Union and Sandwich Shop Strange Holiday Plant Bowl end up with a near-BCS caliber game of Boise State – TCU? Seriously, it’s the [insert favorite ranking poll here] #9 v #11 – better than any non-BCS bowl, and even the Orange Bowl. It’s a real shame these two teams won’t be getting more coverage in a bigger bowl.
Oh, and the spot the BIg Ten had to vacate in the Motor City Bowl – goes to the powerhouse of Florida Atlantic. May the mockery of Zook and DickRod continue…
wow... I didn't even catch that
That will be a good bowl. Both of those teams deserved better
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by TheMightyErik on Dec 7, 2008 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Glancing at the matchups
Best chances for wins are our trip to the Rose Bowl, and Iowa in the Outback. I see intriguing match-ups with MSU v Georgia (2 teams with basically identical seasons) and Wisconsin v FSU. Wiscy started looking better down the stretch, and FSU can struggle against the run.
As for that slate of the BigXI v BigXII games, well, that might be more of a struggle. Ohio State doesn’t match up extremely well against Texas – they’ll need to control the ball and keep the Texas offense off the field as much as possible. Northwestern should be able to hold their own against Mizzou – Oklahoma found a way to shut down that offense, so it might not have to be a shoot-out of offenses. Which NU would lose. And congrats to Tim Brewster on getting the Gophers into a bowl game. It’s not to say KU is a tough team, but that whole backwards slide into the bowl game doesn’t make me excited for Minny’s chances.
So, in conclusion, this could be a long bowl season for the Big Ten or a successful bowl season. Or something in between. And if any of this made sense to anyone – feel free to pass that bowl you’re smoking from my way.
big ten
i love our bowl schedule:
i think every team has a chance at winning sans wisconsin. i have never been impressed by OMG georgia. the only reason that they are where they are is because they were ranked high at the beginning of the season.
winners: PSU, OSU, Minnesota, Michigan State, Iowa
losers: Wisc + NW
I like Wisconsin's chances
Sure, Bucky isn’t anything special this season, but neither is Free Shoes. They were ranked in the top 25 for awhile this season when they never had any business being there.
Here are my Big Televen bowl predictions:
winners: PSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern
losers: aO$U, MSU, Minnesota
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Dec 8, 2008 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
It seems to me
the entire conference has what WE were hoping for: a favored opponent and a chance to dump a large bucket of STFU on the rest of the CFB world.
It may not happen, but the only way to garner respect is to be a significant dog, and rise up and punch that team in the face.
If we can only win 4 of them, I’d take us, OSU, MSU and NU beaing USC, Texas, Georgia and Mizzou.
THAT would be a statement.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
obviously the best way to get respect is to be the dog and win
but next year they won’t be talking about upsets and matchups and such, and will pretty much just spout off bowl records, and so hopefully that is respectable.
And as far as the Big 10 getting bumped up and playing “higher” opponents because tOSU got an at-large bid, don’t forget that Alabama and Texas also bumped up their respective conferences, so our SEC and Big XII matchups are basically what they should be.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 8, 2008 7:57 AM EST up reply actions
Only two games matter
The Rose and Fiesta Bowl are all people will notice. Nobody is going to care if Northwestern loses to Missouri or Kansas beats Minnesota. Our best teams have to beat their best teams.
Obviously I like our chances against USC, though it’s going to be tough. I also like Ohio State against Texas. We’ll see how McCoy does when he has to face a pass rush and defensive backs with pulses.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
C'mon, you make it seem like Big XII defenses were dead
when they’re merely in a coma, pulse and all.
by The JuggerNitt on Dec 8, 2008 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
I have to agree
When (please) you guys beat USC, and if Mack Brown has enough omg I don’t know how that happened we’re Texas moments, 2-0 in BCS games will be what matters pre-season 2009. No one nationally cares if my Iowa team beats red-balls coach, or if JNU can beat Mizzou. I like your chances better than sweatervest frankly, because, well, they’re sweatervest. UT can be beat by pounding McCoy into submission.
kinda like we beat OMG ESS EEE SEE teams in lesser bowl and no one cared
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by TheMightyErik on Dec 8, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Go PAC 10!
Personally, I’ll be routing for all Big 10 AND Pac 10 teams in the bowls this year. The more games the Pac 10 wins, the better Penn State looks for beating Oregon State and (hopefully) USC.
Hull
Better be ready for USC’s running game, they are big and fast.
Better yet, I hope our young LB are ready if needed to help. I just don’t want to look like a slow Big Ten team that gives up big drives.
We need to be aggressive…very aggressive and let Dirty Sanchez beat us.
jNU over Mizzou
Missouri cannot tackle. They don’t appear to even teach it. They don’t even seem to care that it’s become nationally apparent that they don’t teach it. Talk about Little Brother. Of the pathetic kind. Chase Daniel and Gary Pinkel want soooo much to be gunslingers like Colt & Mack and Sam & Bob and Mike & Graham. Ohhh, how they want it. They want it so bad, they give absolutely no consideration remotely to any other fundamental in the game of football. I’m telling you now that CJBacher will look like worldbeater in the alamo that night. And Fitz will have the lads shutting down them some tigers. Chalk Daniel up for 2overzealous-caused turnovers and Maclin for 1, maybe two extraordinary ’I’m the best athlete on the field’ touchdown plays, and JNU wins 31-17.
pax et amor
Can you be a bit more specific?
J/K, Bro.
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by Pete the Streak on Dec 8, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Champs Sports Bowl...huh
Don’t know who to root for in that one. I hate Bobby Bowden and the endless comparisons to JoePa. He’s not even fit to roll up Joe Paterno’s pants cuffs on gameday. I also hate the fact that his Samford wins are counted in his “Division I” wins – as if those are as impressive as JoePa’s wins ALL AT PENN STATE!!
I hate Bret Bielema (or Bulemia as I like to call him) because of the stunts he pulled in 2006 with the kickoffs and the perpetual smirk on his face that we finally erased this year.
I swear, this is a lose-lose bowl game for me.
For the glory
I look at it this way
I can stand Bielema getting a win at Bowden’s expense. Its all about making sure that Bowden stays behind Joe.
Yeah I agree
There will be plenty of days left to beat Bielema. The opportunities to see Bowden suffer are running short.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Although I still dislike him
Bielema took some of the dislike away after he voted PSU number 4 in the final coaches poll

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