Nitt Picks Has a Full Plate
The men who run college football are all meeting in a swanky hotel in Hollywood, Florida this week coming up with ways to take the fun out of the game and squeeze more coins out of your pockets. The hot topic of debate is the possibility of tweaking the BCS to include a "plus-one" game. Jim Delany isn't buying into it and says, "he's not the only one.
Not so fast, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said Tuesday.
"The perception that the Big Ten and Pac-10 are holding this back is not right," Delany said, after exiting a Tuesday morning meeting of conference commissioners and bowl and television representatives at an oceanfront hotel here. "We're seen as obstructionists when we did what we did to evolve the system. The calls for change are external. Ask others here how strongly they feel for a call for change. I don't see it."
And that would be who? Certainly not SEC commissioner Mike Slive.
And how about ACC commissioner and BCS chairman John Swofford?
Talk about your wishy-washy answers. Is Swofford in favor of the "Plus-One" game or not? I can't tell from that quote. He feels good about the BCS but he wants to explore making it better. Whatever. But Swofford does raise some good points.
"You run into the problem of taking it too deeply into second semester, which the presidential level says is unacceptable," Swofford said.
The Nittany Line has already done his best to shoot this down.
Excellent points from my colleague Galen, but Swofford does make sense to me. My biggest hangup with instituting a playoff in college football has been this insistence on simultaneously preserving the current bowl system. Dreamers say rotate the championship game among the BCS bowls and let the other BCS bowls host semi-final games.
It seems feasible. Teams could easily fly from Florida to Arizona or California in time for a game one week away. But what about the fans? Is it reasonable to expect Nittany Lion fans in State College to travel to Arizona one week and then have to turn around and fly to California the next? Most people I know can't afford to do this. The cost of airfare, meals, hotel, and tickets is pretty outrageous not to mention the time off of work. Some people would do it, but not enough to fill 80,000 seat stadiums. The bigger schools like Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan, and Ohio State would stand a chance, but imagine the horror in years when a small school like Rutgers or Wake Forest qualify. And that will scare off the bowls from agreeing to such a deal.
College football playoffs have been around for years in Division I-AA. But they play home games through the first few rounds. The home town fans are already in place and the visiting fans only get maybe a few thousand seats. There is no way you will ever see this happening in Division I-A. The bowl games are entrenched and here to stay. They are never going to agree to just walk away and let the NCAA take their ball and go home. So how do we fix it? Sadly, at this point I don't think we can.
But I can tell you what I would do in a perfect world. First of all four teams isn't enough. If March is madness, then I want December to be demented. I would like to see eight or sixteen teams. That would make for three or four rounds of playoffs. All on Saturdays and most of them falling over the winter break. Don't give me crap about "preserving the student athlete" when you send basketball players on the road for over half of every spring semester.
But to take a page from the book from NCAA basketball, the best solution I can see is to have regional quarter and semi-final games like the NCAA tournament. Have an Eastern, Southern, Midwestern, and Pacific regional bracket and host those games in geographically strategic areas. Host games in New Orleans, Miami, and Tempe and call them the Sugar, Orange and Fiesta bowls if you want to. But come up North and host games in Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, and Philadelphia as well.
The next piece of the puzzle is deciding who gets to play. And in my opinion it has to be conference champions. I've always felt if you can't win your conference you don't deserve to play for the National Championship. I don't care if your team is a late starter. Start earlier next year. And I don't care if the fourth best team from the SEC could destroy the ACC champion. Don't tell me about polls and computer rankings and head-to-head matchups during the regular season. Win your conference. Consider it the unofficial first round of the playoffs.
Of course you have the problem of Notre Dame and the non-BCS conferences. Again, in a perfect world I would make Notre Dame join a conference. Their arrogant insistance on remaining independent has to be factored into any decision and frankly I'm tired of it. Get with the rest of the 100-plus college football programs and join the 21st century. As for the other non-BCS conferences, the easiest solution is to expand the playoff to 16 teams and allow them to send their conference champions to first round slaughters. But this creates a new set of problems.
As a Penn State fan I would not be enthused about having to drive to Indianapolis to watch the Nittany Lions play MAC champ Akron in the first round. I would probably be inclined to skip that one and hold out my money for a second round opponent. While not pretending to speak on behalf of all Nittany Lions everywhere, I suspect a lot of fans think like I do. Unattractive matchups will lead to poor ticket sales and television ratings which leads to less dollars. And we all know how the NCAA feels about less dollars.
So I think the best solution has to be an eight team playoff where the conference champions from the six BCS schools automatically get in. The remaining two schools will be selected from the conference champions of the non-BCS schools. This will allow the Hawaii's and Boise States to get in when they have good years, but we won't be forced to watch the lions and tigers eat the Christians like Roman days.
This post turned out longer than I intended. Sorry about that. But it's the offseason so let's have the college football playoff free-for-all debate.
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I don't necessarily agree....
Not only that, I think you deprive some deserving teams of a chance just b/c they play in a tough conference. If you look at the NFL, we'd most likely be looking at the Patriots as Champs instead of the Giants. But on the other hand I guess you could look at CBB, as most teams that win the NC win their conference tournament beforehand.
by Screen Name 20 on Apr 30, 2008 1:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Traveling fans
Then there's the whole situation of hotel rooms and air travel. I think the best solution is to continue the season with playoffs. The higher ranked teams would get home field advantage. In this scenario you would have a built in fan base and ticket sells.
The championship game could be played the day after New Years. This would give 2 or 3 weeks for ticket sells and to make travel arrangements. The other bowls could host consolation games.
by ageing lion on Apr 30, 2008 1:50 PM EDT 0 recs
Who would go?
by psuboy on
Apr 30, 2008 1:54 PM EDT
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Fans
by ageing lion on
Apr 30, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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Playoffs
Many of the March Madness games were not sell outs either.
Teams and Alums/fans travel to see away games all season long. Why would they not travel to see their team in a playoff game.
by psuboy on Apr 30, 2008 1:52 PM EDT 0 recs
The solution is soooooo simple
You go back to the old bowl system, and play all of the games on New Years Day. Let the each conference cut whatever bowl deals they want, and then let them live with the consequences. You can't bitch if about where your league sent you, if your own league sent you there, right? The Bowls are saved, tradition is restored, the purists are satisfied.
You play a plus one game selecting the two teams using either the current or slightly tweaked BCS formula, which includes the results of the January 1 games, to select participants for the final game.
The final game is played the first Friday night seven days after January 1st, and it's hosted on a rotating basis by each of the leagues. They can play it wherever they want, but it's treated like the Super Bowl (ie the tickets are allotted to sponsors, the host conferences teams etc.), not a college bowl game, where the participating teams have to sell all the tickets. How will Ohio State's fans get there? Who cares? They'll get a couple thousand seats at best.
This game would be a license to print money.
Further, the bowls would function as an uber-regular season week, all the games would theoretically matter, rather than just two.
Perfect? Nope. Simple, realistic and achievable? Yup.
by jesse. on Apr 30, 2008 1:59 PM EDT 0 recs
Or...
I think that day might be bigger than the Super Bowl.
by jesse. on
Apr 30, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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that day would be insane
by rmcmillen50 on
Apr 30, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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conference champ?
BUT...i could be wrong.
I, too, hate hearing teams bitch about how they finish 3rd in their conference b/c it's tougher....but let's face it...it's true. Put Tennesse and Georgia in the Big East and see what happens. No way WVU or Louisville is getting through both those teams every year. Don't talk to me about Rutgers or South Florida...okay...they blow.
I think they should go through the season as they normally do...with rankings. And at the end of the year, they should take the top eight, ten, sixteen...whatever...and set up a playoff. Any team ranked 9th, 11th, or 17th can shut up. When have we ever thought a 9th place team should have a shot to play for the Nat'l Championship?
Season too long? Shorten the regular season by a game.
by Stately NOVA Lion on Apr 30, 2008 2:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Shorten the season....
by Screen Name 20 on
Apr 30, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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Not happening
by nittanyroar on Apr 30, 2008 2:33 PM EDT 0 recs
What! I am shocked....
On a lighter note i would like to thank all of you for providing a worthwhile distraction from my German final tommorrow. If it wasn't for all of you, expecially Mike i might actually be done more of this. However, i am glad to be reading this and also read that we picked up our third committment Mark Arcidiacono today!
by PSUfooball13 on
Apr 30, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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why
Am i also to infer that the representative from ND has as much influence as another commissioner?
by psudrozz on Apr 30, 2008 5:51 PM EDT 0 recs
Why? Here's why.
Why do the champions of the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10, and Southeastern conferences get automatic berths, while the champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference only earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if their team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings???
Whether you want to believe it or not, it is harder under the current BCS rules for Notre Dame to qualify for a BCS bowl than for a team from the WAC, since ND can only be an automatic qualifier if they finish the season ranked number 8 or higher in the final BCS poll. Do you realize that fact?
Regardless, Notre Dame is, was, and may always be the 800-pound gorilla of big-money college football. If Notre Dame is in your game, you are going to get better ratings, better advertising, and better ticket sales - period, end of discussion.
The BCS has made its bed - and the Irish are right there in it. Do the Irish deserve the BCS? Doesn't matter - they're there. They're in because the bowls, the other BCS teams and networks want them in. And so do fans. ND has long enjoyed a love/hate relationship with most of the CFB fan base. The Irish aren't going to be left out of the BCS any time soon.
by PSU1986 on
May 1, 2008 6:54 AM EDT
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wait a second
Given the blatent media slant toward Notre Dame, i would say that it is easier for them to get a BCS tie in. and that's my conspiracy theory. Just look at the last time they went.
i understand that ND = $$$, even in a down year;
i just find it dubious that a team that refuses to join a conference should be involved in a meeting that would involve such matters as BCS tie-ins.
by psudrozz on
May 1, 2008 11:14 AM EDT
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No problem here.
In all honestly, I don't see a blatant media slant toward ND. I believe that Notre Dame has an equal media bias for and against them. For every voter that votes ND higher in the pools than they deserve, there is one that votes them lower. Obviously, NBC favors ND because of their network deal, but ESPN and the other networks don't do the Irish any favors. A recent New York Times article was posted by Mike on this site blasting ND's proposal with Rutgers. A proposal that was the same as one our 'Nits had with Rutgers. I don't seem to recall any uproar then from the media.
My argument is that the Irish are both helped and hurt by their media attention. If anything, I would argue that USC and Florida appear to be the media darlings. How much negative press do you see against the mighty Trojans and Gators?
by PSU1986 on
May 1, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
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Great post Mike
I was at the Orange Bowl in 2005 and that single trip down to Miami was both tiring and expensive. Hotel rooms, tickets, transportation. Can you imagine if Penn State made its way through a 3 round playoff to the national championship? Fans might have to go through destinations from Miami to Tempe to Pasadena. Not your average fan's price range.
Once again great post, I always enjoy your insight but in this case I have to make sure that I voice my support for a relatively unpopular system we currently have here:
by meanjoe on May 2, 2008 1:32 AM EDT 0 recs
Fans Traveling........
by ech2os on May 2, 2008 9:59 AM EDT 0 recs
I wonder
by PSU Nick on
May 2, 2008 3:27 PM EDT
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Trust me.........
by ech2os on
May 2, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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Exactly, they will be in Sept or early Oct
by PSU Nick on
May 2, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
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F#$k `em.
1968, 1969, 1972, 1994.
Undefeated. Untied. Unrewarded.
Why don't Auburn and [snicker] Georgia try to find some pride and dignity in getting "slighted" instead of whining like a bunch of four year olds.
F#$k `em.
by jesse. on May 2, 2008 8:31 PM EDT 0 recs














