I mean, here we have another repeat offender. It seems like it's just six or seven guys causing all the problems. You never hear about problems coming from the other 80-some guys on the team. Either these few problem kids have to get it or they need to be kicked off the team. Until that happens we can expect more of the same from them.

...even come down to  Joe "watching over the kids" these "kids" are 18-22, well beyond the age of needing someone to make sure they don't make stupid decisions. Yes some structured guidance would be necessary, but who's to say that isn't already in place. When it comes down to it, the kids just aren't the same. Granted, I'm only 25, but there is a huge difference between myself and the children i work with, most every child has been taught that they don't have to answer to anyone but themselves, and if someone tries to tell you what to do, well piss on them, because mommy and daddy told me that i don't have to do anything i don't want to. If i were to act like a complete asshole like these kids do, i would've gotten my rear handed to me on a silver platter. Maybe thats what these kids need, a good old fashioned ass kicking from someone they need to respect. Unfortunately until the cycle of "i only have to answer to myself" gets broken, society not going to get any better.

I don't think that's a fair argument. FOS just released details of the police report.

http://pennstate.scout.com/2/744585.html

In there is says Dick Anderson, Mike McQ, and Kermit Buggs were there in the dining hall when this happened and diffused the situation. These kids are around the coaches all the time for team meals, practice, and study halls. Every minute of their day is practially planned for them. Short of tucking in all 90-plus players at night I don't know what else the coaches can do as far as "watching" them.

The problem to me seems to be the coaching staff is struggling to relate to the troubled inner city youth of today. The drill sargeant routine worked on kids 20 years ago. Kids today need their ego stroked. They need to feel like their coach is "there for them" and "getting their back". When you inflict punishment on them sometimes you drive them further away from you. I think this is the problem we're seeing acting out more than the coaches just inflicting more control. These kids just don't like playing for Joe Paterno. So when the man gives them advice it goes in one ear and out the other.

Wasn't he pulled over in a car with pot in it in 2006 and got off scott free? I guess the Ann Arbor DA and State College DA don't compare notes. Of course I think the fine for getting caught with pot in Ann Arbor is like $5.