Blue White Roundtable Is A Day Late
First off my apologies to The Big Eleventh. Last week he sent out these questions and we had planned on posting them yesterday. But then with the holiday weekend and all the recruiting news going on I completely forgot until I saw the BWR over at RUTS. But really it's his fault. He should know by now that us bloggers are all a bunch of slackers. You can't send out questions a week in advance and expect us to remember. We usually send the questions out at 8 PM the night before and throw something half-assed together in the morning much like I'm doing right now. He should have known better. Rookie.
Anyway, be sure to check out these other fine blogs who I'm sure might participate in the roundtable as well.
The Big Eleventh
Run Up The Score
The Nittany Line
William F. Yurasko
Tangled Up In White and Blue
There Is No Name On My Jersey
The Nittany Notebook
Nittany Whiteout
Of the PSU players who went undrafted but were picked up by NFL teams, which one has the best chance of actually seeing playing time in The League?
It seems like the Eagles are always desperate for wide receivers, so you might think Terrelle Golden has a good chance to make the roster. But coming from Penn State and going to play for Andy Reid is like going from the Stone Age to the Nuclear Age overnight. If he makes the roster it's going to be his blocking ability that gets him there. If he can hang around for a year to learn the playbook he stands a chance of having a decent career in the league.
But I would say Austin Scott probably has the best chance. With his troubles seemingly behind him he can focus on football again. And in a town like Cleveland he won't be as exposed to the temptations of the big city lights and glamour like New York or California. Jamal Lewis is the feature back there, but you have to wonder how many years he has left.
My office recently installed those vending machines that keep the coil spinning when your selection gets snagged by the oversized potato chips in the next slot over, usually resulting in two treats for the price of one. This has improved my occasional afternoon snacking 250%.
What football technological improvement has most increased your afternoon football enjoyment the most in, say, the last five years?
My oldest boy is almost four years old now, so he doesn't quite understand football at this age other than it makes his dad yell at the television a lot. I'm just waiting for the day I can break out my "Back in my day" speech. I envision it going something like this.
Back in my day we didn't a yellow line to tell us where the first down marker was. You had to actually watch these people called "referees" who came out and measured the distance with a chain! Then they would signal a first down. If it wasn't a first down you had to rely on the announcer to tell you how far they had to go and you had to actually remember it while the play was going on. And we didn't have little boxes in the corner telling you the down, yards to go, score, quarter, time and timeouts left, and how many times Jim Tressel brushes off his sweatervest. If you were flipping between games you had to wait until a commercial break when they put the score on the screen to tell who was winning. During the two minute drill you had no idea how much time was left on the clock. Once in a while between plays a camera would show you a scoreboard to let you know. And the scoreboards weren't these high definition LCD things you see now. They were just a bunch of light bulbs flickering on and off. Bulbs were burn out and sometimes you couldn't even tell the correct score. 'Is that a 6 or an 8? I don't know.' And you know what else? They used to signal in plays with hand signals instead of having headsets in the helmets. I know that sounds crazy, but they only had 15 plays to choose from back in those days so it wasn't so bad. Not the thousands of plays they do today.Now everything is measured through GPS and all the officiating is done from the press box by two guys watching 20 cameras strategically located throughout the stadium. They took all the fun out of yelling at the ref.
List the top 5 Penn State games, in order of intrigue, that you would like to attend. For bonus points, include an away game.
- Illinois - The first conference game of the season against the flavor of the week team. Illinois may be carrying a lofty top ten rank into that game, but with no Mendenhall or Leman I have to wonder how good they will actually be.
- Michigan - The streak is going to end this year and in a big way. This game should be a blowout in our favor, and Michigan fans will sound like Charlie Weis telling us to laugh now.
- Ohio State - The Buckeyes will undoubtedly be ranked in the top five when we go to Columbus. I don't think we have much of a chance against them, but any time you play a highly ranked team it gets your blood going.
- Oregon State - Who was the last west coast team we played? (Answer below) It's been a long time so that in itself makes it intriguing. The Beavers should be a good test on top of that.
- Temple - Call me crazy, but I'm looking forward to the Temple game. They played us tougher than the score indicated last year so they are going to come to Happy Valley with a lot of confidence. I like what Al Golden has going there, and living in suburban Philadelphia I guess I have a soft spot for the Owls.
Penn State hasn't played a team from the Pac 10 in eight years (USC in the 2000 Kick-off Classic). Oregon State adds a little flavor to an otherwise very standard schedule. How do you think this season's matchups compare to prior years?
It's ok but not great. We have two teams from BCS conferences which is something not many teams can boast, but it's not like they are national championship contenders. Syracuse looked like a decent matchup when it was signed several years ago, but the Orangemen have fallen on tough times of late taking a lot of the luster out of that game. But adding Oregon State is a nice last minute addition.
Hopefully this may be the start of a trend to get one marquee matchup every year and add on a game against some middle of the road BCS team. I could stomach one or two games against the Coastal Carolinas and Akrons of the world if that were the case.
Night games appear to be a growing trend in the Big Ten. While the 2005 Ohio State game was as good as it gets, the following year's Michigan game seemed overhyped and we all know about last season's Ohio State outcome.
This year's Penn State night schedule includes Illinois at home and tough ones in the dark at Wisconsin and at Ohio State. (I'm not sure what to make of the 4:30 kick-off against Michigan)
Here is the three-parter: (1)Does this mean that all of our big games will be played at night from here on out? (2)Do you enjoy the 8:00 or still prefer 3:30? and (3)Do you think a night kickoff actually increases home field advantage or does it simply look cooler on TV?
PSUncle and I were talking about this over the weekend. There is definitely a trend of seeing more big games in prime time television. For the program this is a good thing. It gets us great exposure, and for alumni spread across the country who can't attend the game in person it gives them another chance to see their team play on television. So I think the trend is here to stay and I welcome it. Now on to part two of your question.
PSUncle and I concur that we almost prefer the 3:30 games anymore. It gives you plenty of time to tailgate and have fun and you get home at a reasonable hour after the game. Maybe I'm getting old, but getting up at 5 AM to get drunk while you bake in the sun or freeze in the cold or sit in the rain and then drive home after the game well after midnight just isn't as fun as it used to be. The 8 PM games are cool once a year for a really big game against a top 10 opponent, but this year we're turning on the lights for Illinois? That's when I think we're going a bit too far.
As for part three, I think playing under the lights does provide a better home field advantage. I don't know what it is, maybe the extra alcohol, but the night games I've been to (2002 Nebraska, 2005 Ohio State, 2006 Michigan, and 2007 Ohio State) had a certain electricity in the air. I've been to big games in the daytime back in the 90's and they were exciting, but they didn't compare to any of the previous games I mentioned. So yeah, I think there is an advantage to playing at night.
Lighting Round:
How would Penn State finish with Iowa's 2008 schedule (substitute Iowa in place of the obvious difficult situation of playing yourself)?
No Ohio State or Michigan and we get to play Wisconsin at home? We're going undefeated. As a bonus we get to beat Pitt in the process. How come Iowa can get them on the schedule and we can't?
Which RB gets the most carries this year? The most TDs?
Hopefully not Joe Suhey. If so we're in trouble.
How much would you pay for this fall's Michigan ticket? What is the most you've ever paid to attend a PSU game?
By the time Michigan comes around on the schedule they should have two or three losses. But the Wolverines travel well and you have to consider it's homecoming so that will cause a small uptick in demand. It's mid-October so the weather should be pretty nice, but it's televised at 3:30 so a lot of people may decide to stay home and get the leaves raked instead. I'll put the average price around $75. Some people will undoubtedly expect to get $200 for their tickets, and they may find a sap stupid enough to pay it, but I suspect a savy shopper can find tickets for face value if they stay patient and determined.
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Couple Things.......
Jamal Lewis…...don’t worry about how much time he has left. 2 years ago my buddy’s batchelor party made its way to the Pink Pony just outside of Atlanta. Our party bus pulls up and there is a Maybach that is all pimped out. Inside sitting at the bar was Jamal Lewis. I know strippers make out pretty well, but I have to imagine the 450k card was Jamal’s :)
I would love to go to the Michigan game, but it sounds like I’ll have to stay in Tyrone if I want a hotel room.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on May 28, 2008 11:49 AM EDT 0 recs
Heard this before...
” Michigan – The streak is going to end this year and in a big way. This game should be a blowout in our favor, and Michigan fans will sound like Charlie Weis telling us to laugh now.”
Michigan fans certainly don’t have to do any talking when it comes to this series, a mere gaze at the record books says all that needs to be said. I certainly don’t need to respond with vitriol or even indignation here, but we’ll call this a raised eyebrow and leave it at that. You are more than welcome to your opinion, I’ll just tuck this one away for when October 18th rolls around…
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on May 28, 2008 12:21 PM EDT 0 recs
Tucking it away
I would expect nothing less. See you in October.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on
May 28, 2008 12:52 PM EDT
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Wouldn't it be funny.....
If the court in West Virginia handling WVU’s suit agains Dickrod decided to hold Saturday pre-trials and require DickRod to attend?
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
by pic15 on
May 28, 2008 3:28 PM EDT
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Tuck this one away too
You’re going down. Hard
by Highland Tom on
May 28, 2008 3:46 PM EDT
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Ok
Noted. oh, yes, let me make sure I include the “hard” part… You want to throw a score prediction in there as well? This could be entertaining reading in about 5 months.
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on
May 28, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
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I Don't Care......
if we beat Michigan by 60. Its one game. Won’t hear any smack out of me until we make the series respectable in the win loss column.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on
May 28, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
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Score prediction
You care to make one?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on
May 28, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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Sure, I'll Make One.
If the QB is playing meh until that point…....17 – 10 PSU. If he is playing well, 31 – 10. Either way I think we win.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on
May 28, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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Thanks
But my request was directed at ThoseWhoStay
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on
May 29, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
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That's What I thought.......
but I figured I’d chime in anyways :)
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on
May 29, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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Think I'll go ahead
and wait until I see at least one series from each of the respective teams first… October is forever away in football terms.
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on
May 29, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
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Did you know?
That since 1950 Michigan has exactly one undefeated and untied season, or exactly the same number as Penn State has since 1993? Penn State has five since 1968.
Michigan has never played in a true one versus two National Championship game? Penn State has played in four.
that Michigan’s only national championship since facemasks on helmets became commonplace was a split title with Nebraska (who won two more games than them)? Why did Michigan get a split title and not Penn State?
Michigan’s beat Penn State ten times in row. What else you got?
For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994
by jesse. on
Jun 2, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
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Ummm...
My office recently installed those vending machines that keep the coil spinning when your selection gets snagged by the oversized potato chips in the next slot over, usually resulting in two treats for the price of one. This has improved my occasional afternoon snacking 250%....What???
the idiot formerly known as "joepadon"
by nittanyroar on May 28, 2008 5:10 PM EDT 0 recs
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Screwed that up, better luck next time I guess.
the idiot formerly known as "joepadon"
by nittanyroar on
May 28, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
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“Michigan – The streak is going to end this year and in a big way. This game should be a blowout in our favor, and Michigan fans will sound like Charlie Weis telling us to laugh now. “
Yes, laugh now. I mean right now, laugh immediately. Laugh all summer for all the enormous giants of Michigan care. Once finished, explain how an infinity long streak ends in a big way. Then predict more stuff that we say. I will probably say, “Ha ha! 10 in a row.”
by peerless psycho m fan on May 28, 2008 8:56 PM EDT 0 recs
ThoseWhoStay...
...is likely the same type of person who tries to justify DickRod’s actions, saying that he’s “just misunderstood” and actually a good-character person.
Yeah, Michigan has owned us. But if losing to APPALACHIAN STATE hasn’t clued you into the fact you’re not nearly as dominant as you used to be, I just dunno what will…
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on May 28, 2008 8:58 PM EDT 0 recs
Zing!
An App State reference?? You burned me there! I don’t recall making any claims to Michigan’s dominance other than pointing out that recent history against Penn State doesn’t exactly justify all of the bravado around here. Yes we did lose to App State (funny thing is, they were the better football team that day, plain and simple), yet somehow we still managed to knock off the #10 Nittany Lions with a true freshman signal caller despite such an appalling and program changing loss just a few weeks prior… it was one game, a bad game, but one all the same.
I think it’s particularly funny to make predictions of this nature before you’ve so much as seen one snap of actual football played, especially considering that nobody, not even us Michigan fans, has ANY idea what the Wolverines will look like come the fall.
Oh, and I don’t have to justify anything, thanks. Classy and original use of the Rodriguez’s name too.
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on
May 29, 2008 12:34 AM EDT
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I Would Say....
and being seemingly reasonable I think you would agree, that Penn State is returning 19 of 22 starters or something very close to that number. Addition by subtraction with the exodous of Morelli and Austin Scott. Michigan on the other hand isn’t nearly as fortunate. Henne, Manningham, Long, Hart, etc. Mallet gone. New system. New coach. I have heard some radio personalities predicting a Notre Dame like collapse this year. Actually not that bad, but there are definite rumblings of the consecutive years of winnig seasons streak in jeopardy.
Penn State should be favored in this game.
DickRod is funny and if he weren’t your coach you would be using it too pal :)
I thought you guys were done after the Orgeon game, but to everyones credit you guys turned it around pretty good. Thanks for whooping on the Gators, although they started 3 freshman against you in the 2ndary :)
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on
May 29, 2008 12:55 AM EDT
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I have no problem
with the notion that your team should be favored, none at all, especially since it’s a home game that will be a “somewhat night game”... what’s with the 4:30 kick by the way? Seems like an odd time.
What I do find interesting is the notion that the game will be a “blowout”. I just don’t see that happening, not with JoePa at the helm.
Believe me there are many out there who seem to think that Michigan won’t be able to complete a pass, let alone pick up a first down this season. Most talking heads are so caught up with the notion that because we don’t have Pat White, that this offense won’t work at all. Rodriguez will eventually bring in a guy who will be a more mobile quarterback, but that doesn’t mean he’s going to try to jam a square peg through a round hole. You won’t see a West Virginia style offense because that’s not where our strengths are.
The one thing I do find interesting is that NOBODY in the media has talked at all about our defense! Nearly the entire two deep returns on the d-line, two of the three linebackers return, and we have Trent and Donovan Warren at the corners… not exactly a shabby way to set up on the defensive side of the ball. The offense isn’t going to have to score 40 points a game for this team to win football games.
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on
May 29, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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They must use GPS already
remember the Purdue game officials??? lol
Anyways, I paid $1300 for 2 tixs to the ND game a few years ago. 2nd worst stadium I have ever been to too. Still has the same wooden bleachers that Knute made the kids run up and down 90 years ago.
JoePa in '09
by JGuiher on May 29, 2008 8:30 AM EDT 0 recs
Bet you felt robbed......
paying $1300 for tickets to that game. God what a miserable experience! I paid face from a buddy at work and still couldn’t believe I spent money for that game. Horrible game plan and horrible execution. I do think that if we would have played ND towards the end of the season though that it would have been a much more competitive game but woulda …..coulda…...shoulda. I am interested though what is your #1 worst stadium. At this point…..mine is the bighouse…...the seats are smaller than PSU (if you can imagine that) and the restroom and vending faclities are atrocious. On a positive note….the tailgating on the golf course near the stadium was actually pretty cool.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
by pic15 on
May 29, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
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Actually,
most Michigan fans don’t generally use names like DickRod or LLLLLloyd. I would say the same thing about most Penn State fans. We stick with the JoePa’s and RichRod’s. Negative nicknames generally come from the OSU/MSU/SEC/rivals message board people. Sites like BSD or mgoblog tend to be a bit more rational than that (unless of course you’re going trolling for arguments).
Calling Michigan a ND level catastrophe would be a bit over the top too. They were expected to do well. Michigan is expected to compete closer to the middle of the Big10 this year. Unless Michigan wins 2 games or less, it won’t be ND level.
As for the Michigan game this year, I agree its a bit premature to call it a blow out. It’s the 7th game of the season (at least for M). RichRod might have something put together by then that resembles decency. I hope so at least. At least JoePa should have a solid offensive line to work with.
In an overly premature guess, PSU 17, UM 14. M’s defense should be good this year.
by formerlyanonymous on May 29, 2008 10:35 AM EDT 0 recs
Statistically.........
It looks like Michigan needs to tighten up the run defense a little bit. I watched a lot of Michigan games last year, but not with a clipboard by my side. PSU should be able to run the ball pretty well this year. So that should be the match up in that game at this poing in time.
For the record, I root for Michigan when they aren’t playing PSU.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on
May 29, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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Just Curious
but your saying you don’t used the term
“Cheeseburger Charlie”
I highly doubt that…
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