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The Importance Of Deflecting Blame

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It's a yellow-out!

There are a couple of things any national sports writer can fall back on and be guaranteed a response.  The quality of your argument and the newsworthiness of your topic are simply irrelevant.

One of those things is Paterno's age, but this rather large umbrella can cover other areas too.  Has his age affected his ability to coach on gameday?  To discipline his team?  To get over a grudge?  Enter Pitt-PSU Rivalry Story  #4,564:

Joe hasn't addressed what every red-blooded Western Pennsylvanian wants: a resumption of the Penn State-Pitt rivalry.

That's because he is asked about it every 15 minutes because reporters like you can't find other things to write about in June*.

There are plenty of reasons -- from both sides -- why it doesn't happen. I'll boil it down: Pitt says Paterno ended the series because he still holds a grudge from when Pitt wouldn't join Paterno's failed Eastern Conference plan from decades ago.

Fair enough, probably had something to do with it, but in case you missed the other 4,563 stories that have been done about this rivalry, it's mostly about money.

Of course, Penn State loses money in a home-and-home series. Happy Valley holds 107,000 fans, while Heinz Field holds 64,000 [ed-- misleading for obvious reasons, see photo above]. But you don't end a series because one school has a larger fan base. If that were the case, half the rivalries in college football would be dead.

This is non-sense, and he gives no examples.  Off the top of my head, some of the major rivalries in college football: Ohio State-Michigan, Auburn-Alabama, USC-Notre Dame, Texas-Oklahoma, Florida-Florida State.  Notice a trend here?  Both sides of the rivalry bring something to the table.   Notre Dame doesn't need 45,000 USC fans to fill up their stadium to sell out the game. 

Penn State says Joe ended the series because Pitt forced Penn State fans to buy a package of tickets to see the games in Pittsburgh, thus making money off Penn State.

This is bush league and further proof why Pitt doesn't really deserve any PSU favors.  They currently do this with Notre Dame and it's the only way they are able to even approach selling half the season's tickets.

Here's how we end the bickering: Find a title sponsor to make up the difference.

He doesn't explain this proposal so I'm not really sure how he wants it applied.  Based on his wording I'll assume the entire fee will go to Penn State because of the money they are losing on ticket sales if they don't get the 2 for 1.  No way they are getting enough money out of a Pennsylvania company to make up the difference.  Piit is going to have to go to a bowl game and/or not lose to the The University of Ohio Bobcats before this thing will be the draw everyone remembers.  Oh, and no way Pitt would agree to this.  If they won't agree to two home one away why would they simply give this money to Paterno?

Penn State leads the series, 50-42-2, and nearly everyone who has ever played in this once storied rivalry wants it to happen again. Instead, we get this from the Penn State non-conference schedule: Coastal Carolina (that's not a misprint), Temple (nor is that), at Syracuse and Oregon State.

The record since 1950 is 32-12-2.  That is a 73% winning percentage.  Just thought I'd bring that up.

While the weather usually determines my stance on this one, and the game would be more fun than Coastal Carolina, that is oversimplifying the situation.  Penn State is always made out to be the bad guy but there is a bigger picture.  Pitt won't replace Coastal Carolina, it will replace Oregon State.  You could argue it should replace Syracuse but two BCS programs on the schedule is the exception not the rule, and really it probably wouldn't have happened except for how bad the Orangemen turned out to be after we signed the deal.  Besides, there is no reason to subsidize the Pitt Athletic Department through what will surely be a bogus package of Pitt games that tens of thousands of PSU alum will be forced to buy.

When you look at the numbers, this looks like it would start out a lot more like the Iowa-Iowa State game, which is a bad thing by the way.

 

* Yes, I understand the irony of me turning around and writing a post about it, but I don't get paid and besides, he started it.

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Oh man

Circle the wagons. Here come the Pitt trolls.

by BSD on Jun 10, 2008 3:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Trolling in...

Penn State’s afraid of us, blahblah, blahblahblah, JoePa’s a dirtbag….the fans deserve it, blahblah, blahblahblah.

Convivite Nudem!

by jtothep on Jun 10, 2008 3:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Joe hasn't addressed what every red-blooded Western Pennsylvanian

Joe hasn’t addressed what every red-blooded Western Pennsylvanian wants.

Bang. That’s the answer, 60% of our fans don’t live in Western Pennsylvania, and for the most part, don’t give a shit anymore. Hell I live in Western Pennsylvania, and don’t give a shit anymore.

For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994

by jesse. on Jun 10, 2008 3:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Jesse...

”...tell us how you REALLY feel..!”
Good point!

Old School... MEETS New School!

by BlueWhiteLife on Jun 10, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh yeah

Great picture. I recommend any Pitt troll that comments on BSD from now on have that picture thrown in their face as the only response.

by BSD on Jun 10, 2008 3:32 PM EDT   0 recs

it will definitely be an easy way to end a lot of conversations. i mean how can you take anything they say seriously when its rather obvious no one even goes to the games.

by Kevin HD on Jun 10, 2008 3:34 PM EDT   0 recs

What game is that picture from?

For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994

by jesse. on Jun 10, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HOMECOMING! - HA!

Old School... MEETS New School!

by BlueWhiteLife on Jun 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I believe that's their spring game.

but they still draw next to nothing for regular season games.

by PSU Nick on Jun 10, 2008 5:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't think so

The field would not have been nearly as beat up, and I think it actually started at 7:00. It was on the NFL network. I also don’t think that anywhere near that many people show up for their spring game.

Nope, I think it’s the South Florida game from last November.

For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994

by jesse. on Jun 10, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That field is always beat up

When would the grass have had time to regrow after January anyway?

by PSU Nick on Jun 10, 2008 6:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i dont think it could be the spring game either, most teams don’t do live kickoffs b/c of the high rate of injury. also, the whole team usually stands on one side of the field.

as the guy who posted the picture i should be able to tell you but now that i’m looking again i can’t find it.

by Kevin HD on Jun 10, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sponsored rival game???

Shudder… that’s just plain wrong. Believe it or not they tried to do this to the Michigan OSU game a few years ago and that was shot out of the sky in a heartbeat. There’s something just plain wrong about sponsored games and neutral site rivalries…

PS – That picture is just plain sad… there’s also something wrong with not playing your games in your own on-campus stadium… but I’ll get off my high-horse now.

Go Blue!

by ThoseWhoStay on Jun 10, 2008 4:02 PM EDT   0 recs

the Keystone State Rivalry

sponsored by the Pittsburgh branch of Vagisil Incorporated….

For the glory

by lionalum05 on Jun 10, 2008 5:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Title Sponsorship

This is actually what i do for a living. I analyze sports sponsorships. The amount of money that a network would require for a “title sponsor” of this game would be at least $500k, most likely more. With the way scaling back of sponsorships as it is, it would be tough to find a company that would agree to sign a multi-year deal of six figures to support a one sided game.

Now if you found a company that has a Penn State or Pitt at the top of the company, they might be willing. PNC and Heinz might be willing to play ball in Pitt and i’m sure Comcast (BTW a deal is almost complete for the Big Ten Network and should be signed by mid August) would step up to the plate or some other bank or comany that wants to get their name out there. It is most likely not going to happen. But when someone wants to put words on paper, thats all it is.

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Jun 10, 2008 4:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Title Sponsorship...

Grrrreeaatttt…

Lets not only play Pitt in a home and home series, but totally sell out too.

Can we also wear a huge douchebag patch on our jerseys? I know, lets wear all blue uniforms for the game, with white shoes, and names on the jerseys it will be great! Just like old times.

Rrriiight.

For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994

by jesse. on Jun 10, 2008 4:07 PM EDT   0 recs

I dunno

The Sheetz MTO Rivalry kind of has a nice ring to it.

by BSD on Jun 10, 2008 4:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

One Condition Though

We get to be the Meatball Subs.

mmmmmm…tasty….

by BSD on Jun 10, 2008 4:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i think we’d have to pick a specific sandwhich.

by Kevin HD on Jun 10, 2008 4:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

48-14

!

Convivite Nudem!

by jtothep on Jun 10, 2008 4:10 PM EDT   0 recs

if any of you want a laugh make sure to read the comments of that iowa-isu link to BHGP, really good stuff…

by Kevin HD on Jun 10, 2008 4:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Who is Pitt?

Are they even a D-1 school?

Pat Devlin in '08

by Nick7 on Jun 10, 2008 4:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Why

does this always boil down to m oney? I’m so sick of college football being ruined by the big wigs, I’m from Pittsburgh and went to Central Catholic, which is right in Oakland. If you had to go to school in the middle of Pitt country for 4 years you would want this back on the map too. Any Penn State fan who makes the claim we don’t want to lose out on the extra home game is heartless. Let the athletic department worry about the money, as a fan you shoul worry about your school keeping it’s history! Why have loyalty to the athletic department? They’re not very loyal to you everytime they raise your tickey prices, which by the way are going to go up no matter if we have 7 or 8 home games a year.

by PSU4ever31 on Jun 10, 2008 7:13 PM EDT   0 recs

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