The Hunt For Blue October
In this day and age the trend for most conferences is to backload the schedule of their better teams putting off their better games until late in the season. The thinking goes like this: let your powerhouse teams rack up impressive 8-0 or 8-1 records and then let them go at it. Any team with eight wins late in October is most likely ranked and attractive to television. Pit two highly ranked teams against one another and you get a lot of attention. Lots of attention means national television appearances which is good for the conference as well as the two programs involved. But this year the Nittany Lions should coast through their three games in November if all goes well. As Frank Bodani points out, our real test will be the month of October.
Then comes the most memorable October on record.
The Lions play back-to-back road games against Purdue and Wisconsin, which are backed up against homecoming vs. Michigan and a trip to Columbus, Ohio.
What a stretch.
By the time the bye week hits on Nov. 1, the Lions will be either in the national title hunt or will be regrouping once again.
I see a lot of Nittany Lion fans already putting on the blue tinted glasses. They are scoffing at the preseason polls that rank us in the 20's if at all. They hold up other polls as gospel when they predict us in the Top 10. People, have we learned nothing over the past two years?
Count me as cautiously optimistic about this season. I think we'll have a good team. And why shouldn't I? We return nine starters on offense and eight on defense. But you have to admit their are some questions about this team. And if we've learned anything in the past two years, it's that these questions don't always magically work themselves out.
We're going to be starting a new quarterback this year. While it's tempting to say nothing could be worse than what we had the last two years, that doesn't necessarily mean we'll get something great. Many people are convinced Daryll Clark is the next Michael Robinson after he rushed for 60 yards and a touchdown in the Alamo Bowl. But oddly the coaches didn't even let him attempt a pass in that game. And honestly can anyone remember him completing a pass? The stats say he has, but he hasn't had any meaningful playing time his entire career other than the 2006 Michigan game. He looked completely terrified of the Michigan defense in that game. Perhaps rightfully so as he was the second quarterback of the evening to be carried off the field blowing snot bubbles.
But as far as the offense as a whole I'm not too worried. We sport a veteran offensive line and two great running backs. That alone is enough to score a lot of points. The new quarterback, whether it be Clark or Devlin or even Cianciolo, will just be asked to keep it simple and don't make mistakes. And he'll even have a veteran corp of wide receivers to work with. The offense will be fine. It's the defense I'm worried about.
The defensive line is killer. Evans, Odrick, Koroma, and Gaines all have NFL potential. If the worst case scenario happens and Joe Paterno runs them over in a fit of road rage, we'll simply throw Lattimore, Baker, Taylor, and Maybin out there. If those guys decide to go "party walking" and stomp some guy in front of 50 witnesses on College Avenue we'll just go with Hayes, McEowen, Okoli, and Still and you know what? That wouldn't even bother me one bit. The defensive line will not be a problem with this defense. The linebackers and defensive backs? Meh...
The loss of Sean Lee is huge. Yeah we've recruited well in recent years, but Lee was the heart and soul of this defense. And now he's gone leaving a huge leadership void. I think our linebackers will be ok, but I would feel a lot better if our opening day lineup was Lee, Colasanti, and Bowman rather than Hull, Gbadyu, and Sales as it appears at this point.
In the secondary we obviously lose Justin King, which may or may not be a bad thing considering the way he got torched like a marshmallow at girlscout camp in the second half of the season. A.J. Wallace looks like he has the physical tools to be a good corner, but whether he has the discipline to stay under control remains to be seen. Also, I'm not convinced Mark Rubin is a great choice for safety. I think he'll be great in run support, but with our defensive line and linebackers I'm not sure we need him there. We need a great cover guy that can lock down the tight end or third wide receiver. I'm not sure he has the speed to do that.
And we can't completely ignore the schedule. It's damn tough. The out of conference schedule should be challenging, but manageable. Illinois is a team that always plays us tough. Zook always has a surprise for us. In 2006 he broke out the option for the first time against us. In 2007 he brought in backup quarterback Eddie McGee in the second half, and he promptly broke off a 60 yard run on us. Count that game as one that scares me.
The night game at Wisconsin is a bit frightening, but I have a good feeling about that game. Their power running game plays into our strength on defense. And we pretty well demoralized them at home last year. One or two lucky bounces in 2006 we would have beat them despite our horrible quarterback and offensive line play. I think we'll get that one.
Michigan has more questions than answers, so that's a game we should win at home. Count Ohio State as a loss. So it would sound like I'm talking myself into an 11-1 or 10-2 season. But there is always the Paterno factor. Joe is notorious for puckering up on the road and playing conservative. I have to think there will be one or two games we come out flat and grossly underachieve. Games at Purdue and at Iowa look like prime targets. Couple the fact that Indiana went to a bowl game last year and Dantonio is bringing Michigan State around and I think it's highly possible we drop two of those games.
I'm not prepared to make an official prediction until I study all of these teams in more depth. (I have to go out and get my copy of Phil Steele this week.) All I'm saying is let's not make asses out of ourselves like recent years. We have the potential to go 12-1, but it's also likely we could end up 9-4 for the third year in a row.
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I think the strength of our Lines is key.
Games are won in the trenches and we have veteran linemen on both sides of the ball. Whichever quarterback is out there will have plenty of time to read the field and find a reciever, plus the running game will obviously benefit. While on the d-line, the pressure they create will make the jobs of the linebacker and secondary corps easier. Another thing that veteran lines give is an ability to deal with road noise. We will have played two road games by the time we roll into Wisconsin. I think we can definitely get 9 regular season wins out of this season, and anything after that is just awesome.
by psuphiman80 on Jun 9, 2008 12:41 AM EDT 0 recs
"People, have we learned nothing over the past two years?"
I have. In 2006, I had myself thinking the 2005 magic would carry depsite the fact that we lost our QB, entire secondary, and most of our lines. Um, that was dumb. The more I think it about that team did pretty much what they should have. They lost to the better teams, and beat the worse and comparable teams. In 2007, I had myself convinced that Morelli’s “breakout” in the Outback Bowl would bring us great joy (funny how all he really did was not f* up and so many of us thought he was ready for a huge year). Regardless, I still think that team underachieved. This year, I think we have a real shot at being a great team. The only definite loss I see is Ohio State. But, I’m not getting my hopes up too high. Yet.
by speedomike on Jun 9, 2008 8:48 AM EDT 0 recs
The Key Game
to me is Illinois. We all remember the Minnesota game in 2005 as our breakout game. We went into that game with a lot of doubts and Minnesota was 5-0 or something like that. But the way we handled them so easily was our first indication that team was going to be something special. I’m looking at Illinois as that game. We will have four games under our belt by that point. If we struggle to execute the offense or stop them on defense then I’m not optimistic things will resolve themselves by the end of the season. But if we can dominate a team most people think is going to be pretty good then I think it bodes well for October.
Mike
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by BSD on Jun 9, 2008 8:54 AM EDT 0 recs
I think that's a pretty good comparison
We didn’t look all that great through the first 4 games of 2005 (how many people were calling for Morelli at halftime of the Northwestern game?), but that Minnesota game made me a believer. More importantly, I think it gave the team the confidence it needed to take on Ohio State the next week. Illinois could be a similar situation.
by speedomike on
Jun 9, 2008 9:25 AM EDT
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Not One of Those People
“a team most people think is going to be pretty good” (about Illinois)...I like this comparison, tho, and agree this year’s Illinois game will have a similar result to the 05 shutdown of Maroney (dag, that was a fun day!) Mendenhall, it turns out, was a spectacular talent that even the zookster has not replaced with recruits. Juice Williams, imho, doesn’t have it. Arrelious Benn does, but without Mendenhall I’m not feelin Juice’s ability to get it to him. D’s can tee off on him (and hopefully he won’t bounce ours off him!). I’ll be interested to read your predictions after you study them in more depth, Mike.
I’m always concerned about Camp Randall, but agree that even with their exemplary ‘coaching up’ and game day coaching, they consistently underachieve in the talent-recruiting dept, and our Dline is too talented & skilled and deep for the unco white boy cheesehead O-liners (and by default P.J. Hill) this year. Michigan, as I’ve written here before, could be Notre Dame-bad this year, and will provide a glorious end to our recent winless streak against them.
So, who’s the real possibility for preventing us walking into Columbus at 8-0? Not Purdue. At least Illinois has brought in some decent talent in the trenches the past two years; Purdue’s got nothing and Tiller’s one foot out the door. Not Temple, tho Golden and that crazy athletic white qb who chose the Owls so he could play 4yrs and who was injured against us last year (thank god), could give us a scary little run. I’m most scared of the other OSU—in week two. Early season, unfamiliar and talented ooc foe comes in to our house early and catches us before we establish much-needed establishment at key positions like quarterback and secondary. I hope we squeak that one out, lest I have to crawl into the carrier-dome the following week with tail between legs with half my make-fun-of-orange jokes having lost their sting….
Convivite Nudem!
by jtothep on
Jun 9, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
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The Beavers
Agree that could be a tough one. But why they may resist at first, we’ll loosen them up and pound them steadily.
by speedomike on
Jun 9, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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Clever
I see what you did there.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
by 06Lion on
Jun 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
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Careful of a Kobe,
Speedomike, we don’t want you to have to endure a boston garden crowd chant of ‘No Means No’
Convivite Nudem!
by jtothep on
Jun 10, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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Few questions
I know, I know, biased Michigan fan here, but I’d like to hear a few thoughts on the following:
- Lots of returners on both sides of the ball, but you also have a coaching staff returning that has yet to show anyone a terrifying ability to utilize the play-makers you do have. Does Penn State change its offensive philosophy much this year? I still am trying to wrap my mind around how Penn State tried to line up and play smash mouth football against us last season when it was clear we couldn’t stop ANYTHING in a spread formation at the start of the year. Instead you guys came in and played right into the teeth of our D. With a new QB, do you really think JoePa is suddenly going to turn things loose on the road this year, or even at home for that matter? Do you think the return of a more mobile QB means a more open offense a la 2005, or do you think Penn State tries to stick more to a power running game and uses the QB to just manage the football game?
- Will JoePa take a “bowl game” approach to the big games this year? Penn State has played impressively in its bowl appearances, 9-2 in its last 11!!! Now, obviously having more time to prepare helps, but don’t you guys see some disconnect between how the team seems to perform in those games as opposed to how its done against Michigan and Ohio State over the years?
- More traps await in conference play than I think some here are willing to admit; unbelievably, Penn State has been a .500 team in Big 10 play from 2000 thru 2007 (32-32). That stat stunned me to be honest.
The stretch featuring 4 road games in 5 weeks certainly isn’t going to be easy, and that one home game? Michigan. The schedule is tougher than it appears at first glance. That said, Illinois as the key game? Perhaps from a confidence point of view. The Illini losing Mendenhall will hurt that team badly, I don’t think they’re going to be nearly the same team that you saw last season, combine that with the fact that the game is in Happy Valley and I would certainly expect the Nittany Lions to win that one. I think the “springboard game” for you guys will be at Wisconsin, a win there could conceivably see you headed into the Michigan and Ohio State stretch highly ranked and possibly undefeated.
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on Jun 9, 2008 10:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Thanks for the comment
And I appreciate the courteous tone in which it was asked. I’ll try to answer your first question and hopefully someone else will answer the others.
I’m 95% sure you will see an offense more like 2005 than you saw in 2006 and 2007. Anthony Morelli was not a spread option quarterback. For one he couldn’t run, and two, I’m not sure he was capable of running it. You can read whatever you want into that.
All the reports I’m hearing and everything the coaches and players have said suggests they are going back to the spread option style we saw in 2005. Daryll Clark showed off a little bit of it in the Alamo Bowl rushing for 60 yards. He seems better suited to that style of play than Morelli ever was. (Who can forget the one option play Morelli ever ran? Tom Zbikowski picked up the fumble and ran it back for a touchdown.)
The game against Michigan last year was extremely aggrevating to us. Everyone knew how to beat Michigan. App State and Oregon gave us the blue print. After the game it came out that Jay had wanted to spread things out and get Daryll Clark in the game, but Joe nixed it and went conservative. I don’t think he had confidence in his quarterbacks at all the last two years. Especially on the road. This year he knows he has some guys who can run so he’s going to use that a lot. Running is always less risky than throwing in Joe’s book. So while it may look like Joe is really spreading things out and opening things up on the surface, he’ll really just be converting his running style from smash mouth to finesse. Prepare to see a lot of not-so-sneaky quarterback sneaks.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on
Jun 9, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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Joe
Joe tried his best to get Morelli’s confidence up. He really thought he could be a good QB if he just got his head in the game. Reflecting on that he’s realized he just never had it. He really likes Clark and Devlin. He says they’re extremely confident in their abilities and they both think they should have the starting job. Clark has been calling for the job for awhile. I think a new QB will make a world of difference.
by psuphiman80 on
Jun 9, 2008 10:47 AM EDT
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Clark and Devlin
I really think we’ll be ok with either. I know a lot of people are calling for Devlin, but I’m starting to find myself more in the Clark camp. He carries himself with a lot of confidence. He’s even a bit cocky which is something I like to see in a quarterback. His teammates say he was the one organizing drills through the off season. He sounds like an excellent leader that the team responds to unlike #14.
Devlin sounds like a good kid too, but he’s noticeably shy in the media. Not saying it’s a problem. A lot of people get nervous in front of cameras. Maybe on the football field he’s completely different. But it makes you wonder if there are maybe some confidence issues there. But everyone says he can thread a needle with a football so I think we’ll be ok if he plays too.
Personally I think Joe is going to play both of them heavily with Clark getting 75% of the snaps.
Mike
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by BSD on
Jun 9, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
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I totally agree about Clark, while he does seem a bit cocky he doesn’t appear to be the kind of guy who will makes excuses, which is the down side.
Regarding the schedule, the biggest problem, i think, is that Ohio State is at the end. It’s twice the trouble b/c if we are winning it could mean a mediocre michigan team could get a bit of a look over (although the curse will help with the focus), and besides that it’s going to be a lot of wear and tear on the work horses no matter what the outcome of the previous tests.
by Kevin HD on
Jun 9, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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I figure the same...
...75 / 25…and depending on the opposition and how a game is flowing, a 60 / 40 split could be very likely.
Old School... MEETS New School!
by BlueWhiteLife on
Jun 12, 2008 8:54 AM EDT
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Coaches
Oh, we’re fully aware of the coaching issues. Mike mentioned in his post as well. I think most of us realize that this team is capable of going 11-1, 10-2. I think most of us aren’t holding our breath though. Don’t even get me started on the Michigan game from last year. When the first two plays were Austin Scott up the middle I knew it was over.
I guess it depends on how you define “springboard game”. I see Illinois as being more of a “springboard” for a tough October, whereas Wisconsin is, plain and simple, a big game. I think to call it a springboard game downplays its importance.
by speedomike on
Jun 9, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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Clarifying...
Sorry, I said “springboard game” to mean the game that sets the tone for the rest of the year, so I would definitely call it a HUGE game. A win at Camp Randall means that Happy Valley will be frothing at the mouth for my Wolverines the following week (I hope to be there actually) knowing that if they can get through the following two weeks, the sky’s the limit.
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on
Jun 9, 2008 11:33 AM EDT
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Win or lose in Madison
I think Happy Valley will be frothing at the mouth for the Wolverines. “The Streak” is not sitting too well with us.
Mike
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by BSD on
Jun 9, 2008 11:37 AM EDT
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The Streak...
...is getting downright annoying. I thought that it was going to end in 2002 then again in 2005 (and probably should have in both cases). And then last year….that was one of the most frustrating games that I’ve even watched as a PSU fan.
by Screen Name 20 on
Jun 9, 2008 11:43 AM EDT
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I don't doubt that at all...
Believe me that Ann Arbor gets revved up for the game as well, I’ve been to every one at home since ‘98, it’s a fun time, and I truly mean it when I say I’ve definitely come away with a great impression of the PSU faithful, the fans who were at the ‘05 game by our seats were some of the classiest I’ve ever encountered.
I guess my point is that Penn State stands to carry some serious momentum into that game if they get by the Badgers in Madison, whereas a loss would be something of a bit of a wet blanket heading into that week. No doubt it will be treated as an enormous game, but the result the previous week could kick it into overdrive.
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on
Jun 9, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
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Yeah
I guess my point is that Penn State stands to carry some serious momentum into that game if they get by the Badgers in Madison, whereas a loss would be something of a bit of a wet blanket heading into that week. No doubt it will be treated as an enormous game, but the result the previous week could kick it into overdrive.
We thought the same thing after beating OSU in 2005. I don’t like the fact that the Michigan game is sandwiched between Wisconsin and Ohio State. If you guys get off to a bad start and we beat Wisconsin I could see us overlooking you toward OSU the following week.
Mike
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by BSD on
Jun 9, 2008 12:59 PM EDT
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Momentum
I think the momentum thing gets a little overrated. Like Mike mentioned, I can’t imagine a team on more of a high than PSU after beating Ohio State in 2005. But look what happened the next week. Even looking at last year, we played our best game against Wisconsin, which had followed losses to Mich and Illinois, and a lackluster performance against Iowa. Not to mention the HUB fight and Austin Scott getting kicked off the team the week before. So, who knows.
by speedomike on
Jun 10, 2008 1:08 PM EDT
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some of you guys have a lot more restraint than I do and I respect that
All I have to say is I’d honestly enjoy a 1-12 season with the michigan game in the W column than an a 12-1 season and a BCS win. I swear to god I would. I had nightmares the night before the last michigan game and I will again this year.
I feel like a Browns fan when I think about it and that’s not right. I don’t want to understand how the dawg pound feels.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on
Jun 11, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
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JoePa and the spread offense
It was clear to everyone the Michigan couldn’t stop the spread offense… JoePa and the staff thought has did I, even thought I wanted Clarke to run the spread offense that game, that PSU could line up with Michigan and win… and they should have won that game… Morelli and Scott beat PSU more than Michigan beat PSU that day… I know turnovers and things like that are apart of the game and you can’t turn those things off but I will still say PSU was a better team than Michigan last year…Now to answer your question… Joe has always tweaked the offense to fit the personnel, not the other way around. Last year Morelli was the QB. He was not a running QB. This year Clarke will most likely see the most time. He is a running QB, thus we will see more of a spread offense. This offense will still be based of the power running game with a mobile QB. All the really means is that there will be a few more QB draws and designed QB keeps, but more importantly than that is when a pass breaks down Clarke will be able to get positive yards rather then take a sack or turn the ball over.
by WETSU on
Jun 9, 2008 10:54 AM EDT
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Agreed
But, like I said in a thread about the Mich State game, the defense shouldn’t get a free pass for that game. How long did Michigan have the ball in the fourth quarter? Something like 11 minutes?
by speedomike on
Jun 9, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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I don't know why
But it just seemed like Mike Hart hated Penn State. I can’t think of three or four guys that I’m more glad that I never have to see again. If Michigan doesn’t have him, we’ve won at least two out of the last three games.
For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994
by jesse. on
Jun 9, 2008 11:12 AM EDT
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You can’t under-state how important Long was to them last year. He ran that way almost exclusively. That offense was great at siting on a lead and they never should have been in a situation to do that.
by Kevin HD on
Jun 9, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
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Bowl Games & 36-36
Penn State’s record in Bowl games I think is attributed to our independent days. Our attitude was that bowl games were our chance to prove ourselves against big confrence teams that all thought we’d lose three games in their league. Once upon a time, our program was looked down on like the way we all look down on the Big East teams today. Unfortunately, the three loss thing has turned out to be the case to a great extent, but back in the day, beating those types of teams in bowl games was a tremendous source of pride for us. I think there is still some carry over in the way we prepare for the games, insofar as we still have all the same coaches.
As for 36-36 in confrence play, the record is what it is. By way of explanation, that record encomapses the records of four of the worst teams in the history of our program, certainly the worst four in the past 50 years. I’m supprised the record as presented is as good as is it is.
For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994
by jesse. on
Jun 9, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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Work Poll
Early Predictions can be fun. At my workplace in NJ, we have a bunch of PSU and Rutgers fans. Before June 15 each year, we all predict the upcoming season’s wins and losses for both teams in addition to the bowl game they will get picked for. I have PSU going 10-3 with losses at Wisky and OSU and a loss at the Cap One bowl.
I have Rutgers losing the Car Care bowl after going 8-4.
It really does lend to a lot of fun around here in the fall. Try it sometime!
by chakey on Jun 9, 2008 10:39 AM EDT 0 recs
Thanks
No need to threadjack. That’s what fanposts and fanshots are for. More people will see it there and you get your avatar on the front page.
Mike
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by BSD on
Jun 9, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
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Do you know what I want to see on offense...
1. I want to see shotgun formations. Misdirection out of shotgun, read option with QB/1RB, Devlin or Clark selling the hand-off with two players in the backfield [Beachum/Green, Royster/Green, Williams/Green, Quarless motioning out & Royster] and working some of the outside option game. I DON’T want to see this be all QB draws with Clark, I want to see passing as well.
2. I want to see Devlin & Clark under center, not everything has to be out of the shotgun.
3. I want to see A LOT of QB under center, QB in the shotgun: 2WR/2TE 1RB sets. I want to see RBs motioning out of the backfield. I want to see TEs motioning. I want to see both WRs lined up on the left side together streaking deep down the field clearing space for the TE to come across the middle from the right side. I want to see post patterns with the TE running 5-10 yard outs. I want to see both TEs [Quarless, Szczerba, Shuler, Ditto, whoever] working the seams. I want to see one of the TEs motioning off the line and into the slot , whether it is a roll out or not.
4. I want to see Pat Devlin actually play in a football game, rather than make 2 appearances in 13 games and throw 1 pass.
5. I want to see the the misdirection play with the QB [whoever it is] under center, where he turns opposite, pivots and then pitches to the RB with the fullback leading and the guard pulling. And I want to see it more than once all season long.
by RBGmug on Jun 10, 2008 12:34 AM EDT 0 recs
...I want that every year...
...only this year, we have the talent and seasoning to ACTUALLY DO IT…
Good detail in the post…
Old School... MEETS New School!
by BlueWhiteLife on
Jun 12, 2008 9:10 AM EDT
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I think Michigan is being under rated and tOSU overated
Michigan along with tOSU are the only 2 teams in the Big Ten that can reload. Michigan’s recruiting for the past 4 years has been excellent. Regardless of what you think of DickRod as a person he is an excellent coach. Beating a rebuilt Michigan team is not going to be a guaranteed win. Anyone predicting a Charlie Weis kind of year for Michigan is smoking some funny weed.
The magnitude of Penn State’s loss to tOSU last year was an aberration that is carrying forward to this years thinking. Of our 4 losses last year, tOSU is the only one I put squarely on the coaches for not preparing the team properly. Players comments after the game ” They did not run anything we practiced for” said it all. We will be much better prepared this year. I think we will be able to stay close and have a chance to win. I don’t count it as an automatic loss. No one thought Big Brown could lose to a 38-1 long shot his past weekend. Obviously we will have a better idea after the 5th or 6th game of the season. All I’m saying is don’t rule a win out before anyone has played a single game.
by ageing lion on Jun 10, 2008 1:41 AM EDT 0 recs
I'll (obviously) agree...
to an extent… It’s hard (and usually pointless) to trumpet one’s own team on a rival board, so I’ll refrain as much as possible from doing so, but I also think the predictions of an ND-like season are extremely misgduided.
Coaching wise there is a literal chasm between Charlie Weis (go back and watch the Navy game last year and tell me this guy is a capable head coach…) and Rich Rodriguez. The recruiting has always been top notch under Carr and all Rodriguez did was put the finishing touches on another huge class this year. The names are different, but there is still a LOT of talent on both sides of the football in Ann Arbor. For some reason no one is talking about our defense which is flat loaded and will give the young offense some slack to find its feet and make a few mistakes here and there without absolutley killing us. Overlooking Michigan this year has been a pretty consistent theme from rival fan-bases thus far, and while I’m by no means predicting instant greatness, I think it would be a mistake to count any game as an automatic win, let alone one against a team with as much talent on both sides of the ball as we have. Again, I’m not saying we’ll be a huge force to be reckoned with this year, but at any point in time if this team clicks, it is capable of beating anyone on the schedule.
Now then, on to OSU. They’ve earned the top spot in this conference by being a darn solid football team over the past 5 years, and I cannot take that away from them. They are not invincible however, and as long as Boeckmann is still taking the snaps, there is a chink in that team’s armor. Again, OSU will be the largest hurdle in Penn State’s schedule when you combine the opponent with the fact that its a road game, but that team will be beatable, it’s just going to take a great game to do it. I think if PSU’s deep front four is able to get some pressure on Boeckman and force him into the same idiotic decision making you saw against Illinois and LSU, then PSU has every chance to hang tough in that game.
It goes without saying, but this far ahead of time, any kind of absolute prediction is pretty shortsighted if you ask me.
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on
Jun 10, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
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Michigan's D
You mind giving us a breakdown of what they bring back? I’m just curious. Also, is RichRod implementing his 3-3-5 D. If so, what success do you expect with the returning personnel?
Argh, I told myself I wasn’t going to do this but it’s June and I’m already getting excited for college football.
by speedomike on
Jun 10, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
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I'll do my best...
Pardon the length, but here goes:
First things first, we brought in Scott Shafer from Stanford (no really, Stanford) as the new DC. He’s young (41) and has been the DC at 3 different schools (NIU, Western Mich, and Stanford), he also looks like an evil mastermind, so bonus points there. I was a pretty big fan of Ron English and was sad to see him go, but I think we’ve found a solid replacement in Shafer. His Western Michigan D lead the nation in sacks in 2006 and then he went to Stanford and took a defense that ranked 111th in sacks in ‘06 and turned them into a team that finished 11th in sacks in ‘07… needless to say, he is a fan of the blitz… I think turning a few of Michigan’s guys loose is only going to be a good thing, more on that in a bit.
Perhaps more importantly to us Michigan fans, he runs a base 4-3 with a number of variations, this came as a big sigh of relief to yours truly who looked at the O-lines and RBs in the conference and gulped HARD at the idea of a 3-3-5 stack against those types of attacks.
D-line: Everyone returns, nearly the entire two deep from last year, I’m not counting Shawn Crable as a D-lineman as we misplayed him horrifically last year often lining him up at LB and then moving him down as a “5th lineman”. Watch what kind of a beast he turns into as a LB in the NFL and then watch all of us Michigan fans slapping our foreheads. Regardless, we return Brandon Graham, Terrance Taylor, Tim Jamison, Will Johnson, and Marques Slocum who should all fight to be in the starting front four. Graham is a beast and likely to play a LaMarr Woodley type of role this season. The line will be very solid.
Linebackers: Mix of young talent and some lesser known experienced guys, nobody has a real sure read on who the final starting three will be, but look for there to be a big competition between Obi Ezeh, John Thompson, converted safety Brandon Mouton, Austin Panter, and Marell Evans. Thompson figures to be a solid senior leader, but he may have to move around a bit to see the field a lot, Ezeh looks to have an edge on him at this point. If I had to flat guess I’d say you’ll likely see a starting three of Evans, Mouton, and Ezeh. Ezeh is the guy that I am most excited about, and there’s been a lot of buzz over Mouton.
DBs: Corners are stellar: Morgan Trent had a very quiet but solid campaign last year, and Donovan Warren came in and wowed everybody as a true freshman, as solid as we’ve been at both corner positions in a LONG time. Safeties will feature a number of guys all battling for playing time, experience comes from Stevie Brown and Brandon Harrison with likely backups being Artis Chambers and Charles Stewart… hopefully we can stay healthy at this position as that’s been a bit of a problem over the past few years.
This was the #24 total defensive unit last season, 8th in pass defense, 23rd in scoring D, and a bit more average in the rushing department at 58th. With a LOT of that unit returning, I’m quietly confident. I think a number of people will be stunned by just how fast this D is going to be, the linebackers especially.
I think this D is going to be a lot better than they’re getting credit for right now, but here’s the key: they cannot be consistently hung out to dry by the offense. That was the case in a number of games in ‘05 when Hart was hurt for the majority of the year and the offense was MIA, and the D hung tough until the 4th quarter when they were gassed and blew a few close games.
Again sorry for the length, but hopefully I answered at least a few questions!
Go Blue!
by ThoseWhoStay on
Jun 10, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
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Good Points
I think Michigan will be better than a lot of Penn State fans give them credit for. The defense should be solid and that will be good enough to beat most teams. But if I was a Michigan fan I would be really worried about the O.
You can’t deny the enormous amount of talent that was lost. Replacing Henne, Hart, Long, Manningham, and Arrington spells rebuilding year. On top of that you’ve had a few defections like Mallet and Boren to make things worse. Everything I’ve seen says the offensive line was in shambles this spring. You have all new players to fill in. And what’s worse, those players have been spending the past few years learning a system that got throw in the garbage can when RichRod came to town. Now they have to learn a new system. The playbook is going to be severly dumbed down in the beginning.
But I don’t think all hope is lost. You get an early bye week in September right before the Wisconsin game. I think RR will use that bye week to add some new plays and start expanding his spread offense much like Zook did to us in 2006. They may catch the Badgers off guard with it and steal a win there. Then they get Toledo right before playing Penn State. That’s a game (Toledo) the Wolverines should win on talent alone. So I’m looking for RR to add a few more plays that week, but keep them in his pocket for the Penn State game.
I don’t like making early predictions either, but I’m a blogger so that’s what I do. Every Big Ten team is going to be jacked up for their rare chance to beat up Michigan. Just glancing at the schedule I think Michigan is looking at five losses and a trip to the Alamo bowl. Not great, but certainly better than the collapse Notre Dame saw last year.
Mike
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by BSD on
Jun 10, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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Funny Weed and 'Notre Dame-bad'
Ok, perhaps got a little carried away with that comment, but the smoke seems to be lingering (second-hand, I swear) as I review the ND & UM depth charts….By all accounts, the ND season last year was a result of poor preparation of the kids for the new schemes by Weis. He admitted as much (sorry, sqeezing this in to a busy work day, so don’t have my link machine running). Both teams have been just raking in the talent the past three years, and there’s no disputing the talent & athletes on both rosters. RichRod has already mentioned how much his Glenville State, Clemson & WVU teams have struggled in the first year implementing his system; it’s really, really unique and largely counterintuitive to most football minds and especially to young kids who haven’t seen but one offseason of it. I’m as interested as speedomike to see what former Stanford, Northern Illinois & Central Mich Dcoordinator Scot Shafer does with those four experienced beasts up front, brand new young linebackers & a couple of really skilled CBs. It could be a glorious mess if they try to do that 3-3-5 stuff with that roster. Ooops, while typing, just now see thosewhostay’s post….I agree, doing so would be very, very bad.
Having grown up with Joe Paterno as our head coach, I know never to ‘overlook’ anybody, including the Coastal Carolinas of the world, much less a proud Wolverine tradition, which has had our number to say the least. But, until the season starts and proves me otherwise, I’ll get back to the funniness of summer and wonder aloud (in here) if the UM kids can learn brand new stuff from a RichRod presentation as well or as poorly as the ND kids did from Weis.
Convivite Nudem!
by jtothep on Jun 10, 2008 3:01 PM EDT 0 recs














