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Spread HD: It's Good For You

Good for you.  Cory Giger of the Altoona Mirror was able to collect some good player and coach quotes about the new playbook that might help us understand this new high definition offense.

Jay Paterno on his Playstation creation:

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''It's a run offense,'' Jay Paterno said. ''It's really a glorified wishbone offense.''

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''That's the biggest misconception about the spread offense is that it's this wide open, throw it all over the place [offense],'' Paterno said.

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''It helps immensely because we can move them around and do things because they all know the other positions,'' Paterno said. ''You're not going to necessarily know where Deon Butler is every time. You're not going to necessarily know where Derrick is or Jordan is or any of those guys. We're going to be able to move them around and put them in different places.''

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''We really want to get into where we have that running game, but we want to be able to throw the ball so we can win games in the fourth quarter,'' Paterno said.

This is both scary and exciting.  In the bowl game Clark was able to gain a first down virtually every time he touched the ball, all despite the fact that it was painfully obvious he was keeping it after the snap.  Williams' end arounds are usually very predictable but he still averaged over 6 ypc last year.  So now we are looking at those two weapons on the field at the same time, plus a tried and tested Royster and very promising Green in the backfield.  That is four very good options without even taking into consideration any type of passing attack.

This raises some interesting (read: potentially troubling) question, however.  If Jay has historically been in charge of the pass and Hall in charge of the run, how is this offense going to be able to maintain any type of consistent game plan?  I know you could say that no matter what offense is being run with our ridiculous OC system, but it seems especially important here.  Besides, if Jay is the creator of this thing he needs to be the guy directing it, at least from a high level.  The worst thing that could possibly happen is Penn State attempts to implement this offense, only to handicap it with 1970's style hand-offs every other series.

I've always hated the offensive play calling system even though we know almost nothing about it.  I have my complaints about Jay, but if he is moving forward with an updated offense and tailoring it to our personnel, it's not fair to handicap him and thus diminish the effectiveness of the playbook.

Regardless, the players sound excited:

''We're going to make more of, when Daryll's in there, more of his legs,'' Butler said. ''Obviously he's still going to throw passes because teams are going to make him prove that he can pass. We know he can, but he's going to have to prove it.''

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''With the talent that me and Pat may bring with being able to run the ball,'' Clark said, ''we're going to have some options and a couple of wrinkles with the wideouts being in the backfield and things like that.''

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Clark added: ''With Stephfon and Royster being back there, Derrick being back there, reverse here, reverse there, reverse pass here, a lot of quick passes and putting the wideouts in position to make plays, make yards after the catch.''  [ed - awesome]

For the most part this is all good news.  Penn State led the nation last year in 'boring offensive' and, as a result, the team was predictable and struggled with late game drives.  The coaches and players all seem to be excited and hopeful about the new playbook. The system and personal are in place.  The big question will be how far Joe will let this thing go.  The two most important games of the year are on the road, a place both the players and coaches have historically struggled. The only way we are going to be able to mount an attack at the Big Ten Crown is if the head coach can stomach a truly contemporary and aggressive offense.

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Execution clusterf*ck

I’m all in favor of a new, diversified offensive strategy. I just want to be sure our players are prepared and disciplined enough to execute the plays well. After spending years glancing at a playbook that contains as much variation as a Tecmo Bowl gameplan, I hope the players are studying this seemingly more complex scheme and working hard to implement it.

That said, I’m strangely optimistic about this plan even though it still sounds like it’s going to contain heavy doses of running plays.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Jul 16, 2008 12:24 PM EDT   0 recs

JayPa

So, I keep seeing this ongoing joke about Jay inventing this HD Spread offense on his PlayStation…and I think its hilarious. At first I didn’t believe one iota of it…but now it’s been said so much, that I’m starting to believe it.

Please. . .for piece of mind. . .tell me Jay didn’t invent this offense using his PlayStation.

Because if he did, then I’m not laughing anymore.

by Stately NOVA Lion on Jul 16, 2008 1:05 PM EDT   0 recs

He didn't invent it on Playstation but

he had somebody load the plays onto the NCAA Playstation game so the team could play it with PSU’s plays pre-loaded into the game.

Patiently waiting for the return of Penn State Football

by ReadingNitFan on Jul 16, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

honestly

as quimiky (sp?) as that sounds…it is pretty insightful considering all of the features offered in the replay mode of the PS ncaa football game…I think if used properly it could be very benifical not only for backs and recievers to learn plays but for lineman to learn blocking schemes as well…think about it (seriously) if you could have a computer simulate the proper way to execute a blocking scheme or run a passing route and then be able to slow that down and go over it step by step and view it from multiple angles…this could be very usefully…I don’t know if Jay had that theory in mind when he was doing this but to me that seems like the place where this would get the most benefit

or maybe my brain is just fried and it needs to be August 30th sooner than later

by Lion Alum on Jul 16, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That does make sense....

As long as the game is sophisticated as we all think it is…then I agree.

by Stately NOVA Lion on Jul 16, 2008 2:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Williams at QB

As long as they never run that formation where Williams lines up as QB, and the QB lines up as a WR, I’ll be happy. I think that formation has a history of -10 yards and two fumbles. Notre Dame ‘06 really sticks in my mind.

Perhaps I’ll give them one play, considering Clark is a much more servicable WR than a 6’5 Italian pocket passer.

by cpm126 on Jul 16, 2008 2:12 PM EDT   0 recs

the adidas commercial

appreciates that play

by gbd106 on Jul 16, 2008 2:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That formation

Speaks volumes about our offensive staff

by speedomike on Jul 16, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the Spread HD sounds a lot like RichRod's WVU offense.

Tons of running plays from basically every conceivable player. Then the throws they do make are shorter and designed for the wr to run after the catch.

"Boy that student section now is up and really making a gigantic amount of noise. You see the sea of white, the white out. Well they are 2 minutes and 28 seconds away from the whiteout of the Buckeyes here tonight." - Ron Franklin

by rmcmillen50 on Jul 16, 2008 2:21 PM EDT   0 recs

i still believe jay

is playing a joke on everyone. psu has run the same plays since the 1970s. do we think the qb draw didn’t exist then??

it will be just like 2005, mostly conventional plays but add in the option, more qb draws, etc.

by gbd106 on Jul 16, 2008 2:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Joe just might let this offense fly

Its obvious he knows that his time as HC is coming to a close. I think that he realizes Jay’s position and reputation, and is willing to let him invent and implement is own version of the spread to possibly further his career and justify him becoming OC in 2009. Therefore, I think that this system will be damn near 100% installed and run this season. At least that is what I’m clinging to.

by NittanyNutz2 on Jul 16, 2008 3:11 PM EDT   0 recs

egads

“but we want to be able to throw the ball so we can win games in the fourth quarter,’’ Paterno said.” I was struck by this statement, I thought we threw the ball to lose games in the fourth quarter. This offense really is different.

Boom goes the dynamite.

by psu on Jul 16, 2008 4:47 PM EDT   0 recs

the thing is

if we brought someone else in who would be instituting this new offensive scheme, we would all be terribly excited.

since Jay is instituting it, we all remain skeptical.

Another interesting point is it took Joe’s son to dramatically change our offensive (pun intended) style.

JD

by psudrozz on Jul 16, 2008 4:55 PM EDT   0 recs

this is true...

although my skepticism is blanketed over the entire offense, not just jaypa… lets think for minute here… this whole scenario reminds me of being a young kid and wanting to play in my family reunion vollyball games… eventually they would let me play, and obviously i sucked because i was 20-30 years younger and 2 feet smaller than everyone else playing, but they would appease me by getting out of the way and letting me hit the ball every once in a while, and if it went in and we won the point… HOORAY!! celebration was in order… everyone patted me on the head and said good job… but in retrospect was i actually good compared to everyone else?? no!! I can’t help but feel that we are in a similar situation here with Jay. I am confident (read:hopefull) that this offensive plan will work, but whos to say that someone else didn’t think up the gameplan and just ‘get out of the way and let Jay have his glory’?? Perhaps I am more sceptical than I should be, but I have seen nothing from him in the past that would suggest that he could actually come up with something like this on his own and implement it successfully… Either way, I sure as sh*t hope it works…

by erieisforlovers on Jul 16, 2008 11:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Spread HD

WVU isnt the only team that has a similar offense.Oregon run the same type of offense that was described in the article. Everybody thinks of WVU when they here about this type of offense but I think Oregon runs a better version of it. WVU has had some good RBs over the years but so has Oregon with most recently Jon Stewart. I remember watching Dennis Dixon run the offense against Arizona the game he got hurt and Oregon lost its title hopes. The offense was amazing until Dixon got hurt. One play out of shotgun was where the Dixon faked the option to the right and pitched it to the receiver on the reverse. Arizona didn’t know what the hell hit them.

I think if the offense is anything like that we won’t be wondering why we lost to Illinois. I cant wait to see it against Oregon State this fall.

by crispen333 on Jul 16, 2008 6:47 PM EDT   0 recs

nothing beats

the fake statue of liberty against michigan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNkES_Sadc0

awesome.

by Kevin HD on Jul 16, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thankyouthankyouthankyou

i remember laughing so hard i was crying after that play.

JD

by psudrozz on Jul 17, 2008 10:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Old Man

Old Man Paterno will never go for it! He hates exciting football…rather have 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Remember THEM last year and pretty much every year except for 94? He must have loved everything about the Iowa game a few years back except for the winner. Sorry to rant, but reading this post got me thinking about Joe and put me in a bad mood. Joe would also rather have all noon games. Can you believe it? What kind of coach would not want their team in prime time? A coach who is not willing to adapt to the times that’s who.

by shiloh on Jul 16, 2008 9:44 PM EDT   0 recs

exciting football

personally, i think the most exciting play in football is the tailback lead for 12 yards. the fullback dive for 6 and a first down on third and two is a close second.

by spakajewia on Jul 18, 2008 4:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In my ideal football game

Penn State doesn’t pass once. Call me old fashioned, but passing is what you do when you can’t run or if you’re losing. If you’ve got the lead and can run the ball, why the hell risk a pass? I don’t like Penn State games to be exciting. I like nice, boring, wins.

For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994

by jesse. on Jul 21, 2008 10:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Who is the most successful son of a major college coach?

The problem I have with believing in Jay Paterno’s eventual success is that I cannot think of a prior situation that resulted in an equal or superior outcome for the son of a major college coach. Jay is a footnote on Joe’s career, Terry Bowden should not yet even be uttered in the same sentence as his father (forget about his brothers), and other examples are scarce. Of coaches’ sons, who achieved the highest coaching pinnacle? Jim Tressel is the best match I can find, but his father Lee never ventured outside of Division III. Bill Belichick almost certainly was aided by his father Steve’s coaching experience at Navy, but Steve never took the head coaching mantle there.

I feel as if these fathers open too many doors for their children that the truly great coaches open themselves. Does anybody out there with a more extensive knowledge of college football or general sports history know of any examples? I feel like Jay is trying to buck a trend to which history has not been kind.

by gumbercules on Jul 17, 2008 12:09 AM EDT   0 recs

can you consider

Wade Phillips – though I would call him extremely successful he is an NFL coach with some moderate sucesss

and he is the son of Bump Phillips who coach for Bear (I believe)

by Lion Alum on Jul 17, 2008 7:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sorry

it’s Bum Phillips

and he coached at all levels

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bum_Phillips

by Lion Alum on Jul 17, 2008 8:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jason Garrett

Jason Garrett the Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator is the son of a division III football program. His father coached at Susquehanna University for a number of years.

by b598650 on Jul 17, 2008 8:15 AM EDT   0 recs

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