Upside Downside: Will The Offense Actually Be Better?
I have absolutely no idea how this year's Penn State team is going to be. None.
Some people believe Penn State is a 10+ win team and a darkhorse national championship contender. Others have PSU completely out of the top 25, predicting another 8-4 season on the fringe of relevance. Both scenarios seem entirely possible. Depending on my mood that particular day, I can rather easily talk myself into believing either one.
Utterly confused and partially terrified, I began sifting through the team, position by position, in an attempt to determine whether the personnel on this year's Nittany Lions put the team in a better or worse position than a year ago. Will the quarterback position be an example of addition by subtraction? Can the Spread HD magically turn a Lincoln Log offense into an offensive bullet train? Will the NCAA ever find out that our receivers have actually been in school for eight years?
Is there really no place for this offense to go but upward? Let's try to find out.

Rain on your parade? Call it a slight drizzle for now.
QUARTERBACKS
2007: Anthony Morelli, Daryll Clark -- Morelli has taken enough of a beating in this space, so let's not rehash his career too much other to say that (a) he completed 58% of his passes for 19 TD's and 10 INT's last season and (b) didn't play well in the fourth quarter of important games. Clark only attempted nine passes in 2007, and completed six of them for a grand total of 31 yards.
2008: Daryll Clark, Pat Devlin -- Again, 6-for-9, 31 yards. Clark also ran for 78 yards over the course of the season, 50 of those were in the Alamo Bowl on six carries. Devlin threw one pass, an incompletion against Florida International.
Analysis: The general sentiment from Penn State fans about the quarterback situation seems to be, "it can't be any worse than last year." But is that true? We're heading into the season with two quarterbacks who for all intents and purposes have no game experience throwing the football -- take that up with the coaching staff, who rarely lets a backup quarterback throw a pass more than ten yards. Clark actually threw the ball more in 2006 (14-27, 116 yards). While Clark is sure to add more production in terms of rushing yardage, do we have any concrete proof that the overall quarterback production will exceed that of 2007 Morelli?
PASS OFFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Northwestern........ 8 360 222 16 61.7 2485 6.9 15 310.6
2. Purdue.............. 8 380 230 7 60.5 2236 5.9 12 279.5
3. Minnesota........... 8 313 179 11 57.2 1973 6.3 13 246.6
4. Michigan State...... 8 246 154 4 62.6 1848 7.5 11 231.0
5. Indiana............. 8 281 170 7 60.5 1842 6.6 13 230.2
6. Wisconsin........... 8 225 124 9 55.1 1797 8.0 9 224.6
7. Michigan............ 8 263 138 7 52.5 1741 6.6 16 217.6
8. Penn State.......... 8 261 146 7 55.9 1633 6.3 7 204.1
9. Iowa................ 8 249 131 3 52.6 1491 6.0 9 186.4
10.Ohio State.......... 8 191 120 10 62.8 1432 7.5 15 179.0
11.Illinois............ 8 186 103 8 55.4 1172 6.3 12 146.5
Okay, okay, fine. Clark has a good chance to be better than that. If he's not, you have to wonder when the coaching staff would switch over to Pat Devlin -- or would they be as stubborn about QB replacement as they were last season?
Whatever the case, let's hope this year's quarterbacks respond better to the challenges of providing leadership and great performances at crucial times. I'm optimistic about the QB's, but not close to convinced. Talk to me after the Oregon State game.
RUNNING BACKS
2007: Austin Scott, Rodney Kinlaw, Evan Royster, Matt Hahn, Brent Carter -- After Austin Scott was removed from the team, Kinlaw became one of the truly great stories of 2007. He ran for 1,329 yards (5.5 ypc, 10 TD's) and caught 21 passes for 128 yards. Pretty damned good for a guy who looked destined to be a career backup at PSU. Royster eventually emerged as a tough inside runner with a nose for extra yards and the goal line (6.3 ypc, 5 TD's). Hahn was a dependable ball carrier (5.5 ypc) and outlet receiver before his ACL injury against Indiana. Brent Carter's notoriety stems from him brilliantly answering the bell during the final drive against Michigan State, only to be ignored by the playcallers for the final, fatal four incompletions of the drive.
Ultimately, Penn State finished fourth in the Big Ten (conference games only) in rushing offense at 182 yards/game (4.7 ypc). Pretty good, considering their opening day starter flaked out of the program and the Kinlaw / Royster combination fought some nagging injuries.
2008: Evan Royster, Stephfon Green, Brent Carter, Dan Lawlor, Brandon Beachum
Analysis: After you factor in expected improvement from Royster and Carter, the exchange is essentially Green and Beachum for Scott and Kinlaw. I'll take it. Green is obviously the big question here, and he'll certainly make a few defenses look silly at random points this season. Can he be consistently great, or just randomly spectacular? Beachum is interesting in that everyone's silently hoping he can bring back memories of Aaron Harris -- that undersized fullback / oversized running back who refuses to be tackled.
(Really, we're all just waiting for the next Aaron Harris. But Beachum is a topic for 2010, in all probability.)
People outside the Penn State bubble just don't know how good Evan Royster is yet. But they will. Still, I hesitate to call this an major upgrade from last year's group, which was better than people gave it credit for. The 2007 running backs combined for roughly 2,400 yards last season. We have a sure thing with Royster. Green is still a mystery. Intriguing and exciting, yes. But a mystery. He's not the first guy to receive glowing practice reports and do something wonderful in a Blue/White game.
In any event, the running backs should compare favorably to last year's group. Royster in a featured role will be fun to watch. Any rushing contributions from the quarterback position will obviously influence the yardage output from the running backs.
WIDE RECEIVERS
2007: Derrick Williams, Deon Butler, Jordan Norwood, Terrell Golden, Stabby McShankerson.
2008: Derrick Williams, Deon Butler, Jordan Norwood, Brett Brackett, Derek Moye, Graham Zug.
Analysis: The Last Waltz for the mighty freshmen of 2005. Brackett will likely take over Golden's role and will allegedly be a red-zone target. We'll see. The coaches seem to like Moye in the void left by McShankerson, but at this point we're discussing the contributions by the #5 receiver. I think this makes Zug the 2008 version of Brendan Perretta. I'll double check that for you.
This group should be the same it's always been. Good, not spectacular. The difference will be made by the quality of play from the quarterbacks. It'll be interesting to see how much Moye can contribute this season, and what the coaching staff can do in order to get Derrick Williams the football in an open field situation. It's a matter of design and creativity, and I don't see how slapping lipstick on a pig with a newly minted "Spread HD" nametag is going to magically solve things.
TIGHT ENDS
2007: Andrew Quarless, Mickey Shuler. Combined for 21 catches, 296 yards, and 3 touchdowns.
2008: Andrew Quarless(?), Mickey Shuler, Andrew Szczerba
Quarless' name, of course, to be pronounced as follows:
Analysis: "I'm Andrew Quarless?" Seriously, nobody is talking about Quarless or his prospective contribution to this year's team. Szczerba made a great impression at the Blue/White game. Shuler is solid, not mind blowing. Really, Quarless is the wild card here. If he doesn't see the field, it's a step backward for this position. Perhaps not a huge downgrade, depending on Szczerba's progress. It's not like this unit will need a ton of production to match last year's paltry output.
OFFENSIVE LINE
2007: Gerald Cadogan, Mike Lucian, A.Q. Shipley, Rich Ohrnberger, Dennis Landolt.
2008: Cadogan, Stefen Wisniewski, Shipley, Ohrnberger, Landolt.
Analysis: The obvious strength of the Penn State offense. Wisniewski has supplanted the surprisingly versatile Lucian at left guard. Wiz is just too good to keep off the field at this point, which is a downer for Lucian, who played quite admirably throughout 2007 and will be counted on if any of the interior players go down. These guys are very, very good, though that only accounts for a slight upgrade from last season.
Injuries to either tackle could be utterly devastating. It's unclear what the coaching staff would do in order to compensate for the loss of Cadogan or Landolt. Lou Eliades is a candidate to start in case of emergency, but he's lacking in meaningful game experience.
OVERALL
The performance of the Penn State offense will come down to a few things, some more obvious than others:
1. Quarterback performance. Truth be told, every other offensive position is in pretty good shape. If Daryll Clark can minimize his mistakes (let's not forget Morelli's fumbling issues last year, either), it seems that the offense should be efficient if not proficient. And really, it was the timing of Morelli's mistakes that will be his legacy. The costly fumble deep in our own territory against Michigan. The fourth quarter at Illinois. Annual fourth quarter pick-sixes against Ohio State. And so it goes.
2. Health on the offensive line. We were extremely lucky last year in this area -- perhaps the most overlooked aspect of the 2007 season.
3. Mildly competent playcalling and properly implementing the "new" offense. Can Jay and Galen really pull this off, or is "Spread HD" really just propaganda for "we think the offense can be pretty good, so let's run the stuff from the 2005 playbook, slap a dumb name on it, and tell everyone we reinvented the wheel"?
The quarterbacks have next to no experience. Like it or not, there is only one proven running back (Royster) and one backup lineman with extensive game experience (Lucian). Sure, the wide receivers are good, but they're at a position which generally depends on everything else on the field going as planned before they get a chance to make an impact with the football.
I can't help thinking that a lot of Penn State fans are falling into the "Morelli's gone, everything is going to be "HD-BRAHSOME" trap. What will happen when Oregon State rolls eight guys up to the line of scrimmage and forces Daryll Clark to throw? It's still the same offensive coaching staff you've been complaining about for years, only now they're trying to implement a different offensive package in a year when the new play-clock rules won't allow for any dicking around by coaches on the sidelines.
The offense could end up being good -- very, very good if things break correctly -- but just like when you're shopping for a real HD, buyer beware.
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So, this Spread HD thing
What’s the opinion on this? Am I being way too skeptical in thinking that JayPa looked at our returning starters, saw the makings of a good offense, and came up with this “Spread HD” name in order to gain a little notoriety for a program that is universally viewed as being stale on offense? Or is this going to be a truly new and diverse offense?
by Run Up The Score on Aug 21, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's a good diary on this, too.
By carolinaeasy, right here.
by Run Up The Score on Aug 21, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, if you want to be REALLY cynical
Was “Spread HD” a marketing gimmick for the Terrelle Pryor recruitment?
by Run Up The Score on Aug 21, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spread HD
I don’t see it as being any different than 2005, although I can’t be sure of that since they didn’t show anything in the B/W game. It’s merely a marketing gimmick.
If it’s a success, apart from having a great season on offense, it can also go a long way into helping our recruitment of Newsome. If it’s not, well, I don’t want to think about that right now….
by Screen Name 20 on Aug 21, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Sirs....
are consistently great.
I, however, am randomly spectacular!
I’m fired up!
by GLORYOFOLDSTATE on Aug 21, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oddly enough
I couldn’t find McShankerson on any of the PSU box scores for last year. In any measure, if Brackett or Moye can catch a ball when they’re wide open in the endzone (or catch a ball in general) they’re a step up on Bell.
For some reason I’m feeling confident about this year’s team…maybe it’s b/c of the possibilities that a mobile QB brings to the table.
by Screen Name 20 on Aug 21, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was a package deal
With our two departed defensive tackles, Punchy von Kickenstein and Fatty McButterpants.
by Run Up The Score on Aug 21, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RUTS, you are hilariously insightful
Interesting analysis, coupled with the “Fatty McButterpants” allusion; priceless.
I agree with you, we could be anywhere from a dissapointing 8-win team, to a better than expected BCS team. In many ways, we’re as unpredictable as our “arch-rival” Michigan State. They could go 6-6 or be undefeated when we play them. OK, probably closer to the former than the latter, but a question mark nonetheless.
by pjk on Aug 22, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with this
i think the relaxed feeling with me isn’t necessarily confidence in “HD-BRAWSOME”, but the notion that we might be looking at less smack-yourself-in-the-forehead-while-spilling-your-beer moments. And yes, I know that’s not incredibly insightful, but still comforting.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on Aug 21, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mobile QB
Rather than watching lead-foot sit in the pocket way too long (although thanks to our offensive line we didn’t give up too many sacks last year), Clark/Devlin can take off and run. I think this threat of a mobile QB taking off from the pocket and running adds a little bit of insecurity into a defense. It may keep the defense a little more honest and any bit of hesitation is all a receiver needs to get open.
by Screen Name 20 on Aug 21, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about this?

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Aug 21, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed I am.
That’s the most blatant of his drops. Instead of reaching out and meeting the ball with his hands, he lets it hit him in the body…and promptly slip through his hands.
by Screen Name 20 on Aug 22, 2008 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quarless' drop against Illinois
Was way worse…waaaaaaaaay worse.
For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994,
by jesse. on Aug 22, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Without a doubt it was worse in terms of effect on the outcome of the game, as that was a swing play in a close game.
But in terms of which drop was the worse display of skill? It’s gotta be Bell. I don’t want to make excuses for Quarless but at least he had the ball knocked loose by Captain America himself, whereas the Bell drop is indefensible (I mean, look at it above).
by Screen Name 20 on Aug 22, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couple of thoughts
1. JayPa is an idiot. Plain and simple: he’s talentless, he’s overly confident in his lackluster abilities, and he is running at least half of this offense.
2. We’ve had 1 really good season in 15 years because we had 1 guy who was so awesome he actually counteracted the scourge that is JayPa.
3. Despite all the incredible talent we have, all the offensive weapons, all the depth at RB — it all comes down to the 4th quarter, when we’re down 2 scores on the road, during a night game. It will happen this season, and it will probably happen more than once. JayPa will pull his usual aweful playcalling, and SOMEONE will have to step up and make a play.
I do not believe in JayPa, Spread HD, or even our O-line. But after that Alamo Bowl performance, I really honestly believe D Clark will get us 10 wins this year…
by millzners on Aug 21, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
Penn State practice on the BTN tonight at 9 p.m.
Nittany Lion Hotline is also tonight. Joe Paterno won’t be in the studio, but three players will.
by Run Up The Score on Aug 21, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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They are a completly different teams – this year compared to last (but i can still see the same outcome)… the ’07 Lions D was stronger and the offense need to be just good enough to win… This offense will be more powerful and will need to out score people as our the D has to really rely on D front because we lose a little at LB.
-We upgrade immediatly at QB without Morrelli.
-The receivers are the same…
-the tightends are upgraded due the Quarless off field problems giving other guys valuable PT last year. plus Quarless is still a stud. TE is one of our deepest positions.
-OLine will be awesome
-Running backs will be great… and we have a few
Defense will be solid and thats all they sould need to be with this offense. as long as the don’t get blown out we should score enough to win.
I just hope this “SpreadHD” things doesn get out of control. There is no reason to get too creative. The offense we have is just fine. even the ‘05 offense was essetially the same offense, we the just ran a few more QB’s draws and had people who made plays… it wasn’t some mastermind creation… Just line up and execute… thats what Morrelli couldn’t do.
by WETSU on Aug 21, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know Jay's coaching him and all
but does anyone else think Clark might end up being a better passer than we think?
by ReadingRambler on Aug 21, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JayPa The Great?
Or lack there of. He has yet to prove anything although from a marketing perspective, do give him a lot of credit with creating this whole HD buzz, or rather BS. The offense will look a lot like 05. I agree RUTS, our WR’s are good not great, again being overhyped but hey, maybe they will show us something this year. I’m still waiting for the day we throw a ball down the middle or actually utilize one of our big boys in the red zone. So unless that changes which I hope it does, forget about Brackett or Moye contributing. Rather a lot of 3 and outs.
I think both QB’s have potential but again it’s hard to judge now. Clark does seem to have the leadership abilities. What scares me is that we have our first game in less than 3 weeks and don’t have a starting QB. Does that scare anyone else? How many other programs have QB battles this close to the start of the season, and it doesn’t seem like they want to implement a dual QB scheme, which either means 2 things.
1. Both QB’s are playing great
2. Both QB’s are playing average and haven’t won the starting spot
Running back is a toss up his year and like most running backs in college football, it all depends on the line. If we stay healthy there, our backs will get yards regardless of whose in.
by Craig07 on Aug 21, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense is more of a concern
I think our offense will improve this year (due to experience + no morelli) however I doubt our defense.
Our secondary last year was terrible and we lost our top corner, our DTs are dropping like flies, and our LBs are a big question mark.
by zigs on Aug 21, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quarless
You’re right, no one has been talking to him this offseason. Is he even going to be cleared to play at the start of the season? Didn’t he have a pending dui or something?
I hope he can play because when he has his act together he’s pretty solid.
"Boy that student section now is up and really making a gigantic amount of noise. You see the sea of white, the white out. Well they are 2 minutes and 28 seconds away from the whiteout of the Buckeyes here tonight." - Ron Franklin
by rmcmillen50 on Aug 21, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I keep thinking...
that if he wants to see the field over the next two years, he’d be better off moving to wide receiver right now. That’s where we’re really going to need him. We currently have Shuler, Szcerba, Ditto, and Wedderburn at TE and they’re all spaced out by a year. Beyond this, consider our recent weak recruiting classes at wide receiver and the impending graduation of the smurfs (DWill, Norwood, and Butler). If he gets some playing time at wideout this year, Quarless could step right in and become our number one receiver in 2009-2010. I know he’s listed at 6’5"/250 lbs, which would be a bit big for a wide receiver, but those numbers seem to be slightly exaggerated. He’s probably closer to 6’4"/235… excellent for a tall wideout. And he has pretty decent speed as well.
by BSM PSU 93 on Aug 22, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a very strong and tenured OL will help minimize a lot of the questions. Clark will have more time & open lanes on designed runs. Where the ball goes when he throws it is another story, but he’ll be ok.
This OL made someone a 1300 yard rusher in less than a full season. Not worried about what we can do on the ground.
Keep in mind the old PSU formula: Ridiculously good OL + talented RB + marginally ok qb = national championship chase. I realize it’s not 1986 any more, but this OL is too good to let us lose. That’s the defense’s job this year…
by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 22, 2008 5:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling
That you’ll have a similar post about the defense pretty soon. Not that I’ve started it yet. Power outage in mom’s basement.
by Run Up The Score on Aug 22, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, defense is a little scary, especially considering what they let Illinois, OSU, MSU, and to a lesser extent Michigan do to us last year. Take out two All-American LBs, replace with younger but talented guys, lose some depth on the DL, start two white guys at safety? Not sure that screams BCS game to me.
However, if you ask a PSU fan whether they trust Vandy, Scrap, and LJSr, and the logical ones will say ‘YES!’. I’d agree with them. We’ll see.
Sorry to hear that PP&L completely PWNED your mom’s basement. Hopefully you didn’t lose your high score on Frogger.
by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 22, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2008
Excellent analysis. I think Royster’s health is also an issue. Paterno says all the great backs have to be durable and he has not shown that yet.
I also agree that the obvious defensive strategy is to make Clark pass – sell out to stop the run. My hunch is that Clark will not do well. I have not been impressed by the little I have seen of him – but it is only a hunch. With a superb line and receivers, one of the two QBs should emerge eventually.
Jay ( a living monument to nepotism, to the sorrow of those of us who admire his father greatly) will continue to burden this team.
by hartmann on Aug 22, 2008 8:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If they have to sell out to stop the run...
We should be favored to win 11 games. The only attractive thing about the “Spread HD” in my opinion is the ability for our WR and TE to make plays in the passing game. I know that the Prodigal Son believes the Spread is a running offense, and for sure, variations of the offense can feature runs from a RB, QB or SE. However, the important part of it for us is that the spread, if run and coached properly can get the ball into the hands of our talented WR.
Your assertion that teams will sell out to stop the run against us makes that point very well. If they do need to walk in a safet and put 8 in the box, we SHOULD shatter passing records this year.
There was nothing I saw in Clark at the BW game that made me think he couldn’t run a passing game. I believe he can. We already know that Devlin can…the only thing that will stop this offense from being a machine is the inept and at times beffudled coaching of the Prodigal Son, Geriatric Galen and the Old Man. There can be no personnel excuses this year…its all on the coaches.
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by NittanySteve on Aug 22, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We already know Devlin can [run a passing game]
really?
by The IC Lion on Aug 22, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He is the all-time Pennsylvania passing leader…I think he knows how to throw the football and understands the passing game.
Did he do it against B10 defenses? Nope. But, he knows the dynamics of the passing game and how to make it work. I think Clark does as well…at least he sure looked like he did at the BW scrimmage.
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by NittanySteve on Aug 22, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replacing Morelli at QB can't be understated
Its not just that Morelli didn’t see wide open receivers and overthrew well timed screen passes. He did. But the real difference was that he consistently committed unforced turnovers.
In the 4th quarter against Illinois, Morelli marched the team down the field only the turn it over 4 times. His play alone in that game changed PSU’s season. Simply eliminating those unforced errors – or even cutting them in half – should be realized this season with a new QB.
I think last year, it was expected that Morelli would accentuate the other skill guys like DW and the RBs. This year, I expect our skill players to provide Clark or Devlin with safe options when under pressure.
by DCPSU on Aug 22, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree...
The textbook refutation of statistics ought to be the comparison between Robinson and Morelli. One did it when it needed it done and the other…
by hartmann on Aug 22, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Illinois view that game as a "statement" game?
I hate when teams do that? If it’s that important, make it an orange-out or something. Calling it a statement game is just dumb.
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Aug 22, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to start this again...
But those turnovers were not all Morelli’s fault.
Quarless went after a ball like a girl in the end zone, had it stripped and intercepted. Quarless’ fault.
The fourth was a hail mary…which is kind of a low percentage play.
The fumble was a great effort, and unfortunate. That kind of shit happens to everyone.
Putting the whole Illinois loss on Morelli’s head isn’t really fair. The kid was no conquering hero to be sure, but he had help losing all four of Penn State’s games last year.
For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994,
by jesse. on Aug 22, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that fumble...
I was actually sitting at a bar in Harrisburg for that game…and there was Morelli, breaking the pocket and heroically scrambling for a first down only to fumble about 9" off the ground. And that’s his career in a nutshell, fair or not.
by Run Up The Score on Aug 22, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tale of two halves
That was a pretty weird game. As I recall, the defense was poor in the first half and woke up, for the most part, in the second half. The exact opposite was true of Morelli and the offense. He was above average in the first half and then just plain pathetic in the second. You’re right, Jesse, that you can’t pin the loss entirely on Morelli’s back. I completely agree with your assessment of the Quarless drop… that ball was absolutely there (for once!) and he simply didn’t pull it in. Lemen needed him to bobble it for a second or he wouldn’t have been able to knock it away. The problem with Morelli (and we saw it over and over) was his lack of ability to come through in big situations. Lack of concentration… lack of confidence… lack of ability… they all conspired against him exactly when we needed him most.
by BSM PSU 93 on Aug 22, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morelli Critques
Fair criticism is fine with me, what bothers me is when the criticism is unfair, over the top and/or uninformed. And I’m not pointing fingers at anybody here.
1. "The back up quarterback is better" is an argument that any smart football fan should be past by the time they are 10. I’m sorry, it’s just childish. The coaches are clearly playing the guy they think gives them the best chance to win. It’s not a conspiracy, they want to win way worse then we do. They weren’t playing Morelli just to boost his self-esteem.
2. The way some people talk about Morelli makes Penn State fans look bad. You think five star recruits and their parents don’t read message boards? Or attend the Blue/White game? I bet they do. When we don’t look after are own guys, we look bad. It looks disloyal, and we trade on loyalty pretty heavily at Penn State. I’ve taken shit for defending Austin Scott, Anthony Scirotto, and yes, even Anthony Morelli.
We don’t have to put these kids on pedestals and never criticize them, but I think we owe them all the same benefit of the doubt we’d give to any other Penn Stater. What I didn’t like about the last post is it was essentially a lawyer trick, say something that sounds bad, put no context around it, and use it to condemn the kid. I don’t think it takes clever advocacy to make a point about Anthony Morelli.
And for god’s sake give the kid a round of applause on senior day. It’s just the right thing to do.
For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994,
by jesse. on Aug 22, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a break!!!
Morelli is as far a representative of the Lions as we could ever want… He was not a team player. thats been documented… stating fights and talking shitt to Michigan fans after the game… been documented. He was talking shitt after the bowl game… a game that they won… this guy is an idiot… there was an article i read not too long ago where he was basically bashing penn state….
Fair Criticism? Fair criticism of Morelli is he had more than enought chance to wins the “big games” and he could do it.
Secondly, regarding point # 1. JoePa has publicly said that JayPa was telling him to play Clark. Jay thought Clark gave them a better chance to win… Further more, JoePa publicly stated that maybe, and i am paraphrasing here, he played him or didn’t take him out when he should have because he didn’t know how Morelli would handle it… WTF. the kid is supposed the be a young adult and the coach plays him because he doesn’t want to hurt his feelings… you gotta be kidding me.
by WETSU on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were in Champaign, and couldn’t see a replay screen courtesy of the fukcing overhang in our section. So, we sat there wondering exactly what was happening for five minutes. Bad times, bad times.
Best part of that game was cheering whenever Juice dropped back to pass, as he stunk 100X worse than Morelli. However, he could run and hand off ot Benn/Mendenhall, so he had a much better day.
by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 22, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fumble
Happens to everyone, except it always happened to Morelli…any time he crossed the line or scrimmage it was a fumble waiting to happen.
And the interception was Morelli’s fault. Yes, Quarless should have caught the first pass. Ok, but Morelli didn’t have to come right back, stare him down and promptly throw it directly into Lehman’s chest.
by Screen Name 20 on Aug 25, 2008 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boooooooooooo!!! Boooooooooo!!!
Sorry, I just have an instinctive reaction whenever I see The Great Unnamed One’s name.
by Cairo on Aug 22, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really,..PSU v. OS...you think you have speed?
I truly enjoyed the “spread-offense” clip that culled all the post-Reconstruction video you could procure to encourage your flunkies to try to break a 4.8-40 during fall camp. PSU has gotten fat for a half-decade on weak out-of-conference games and residing in of the worst conferences in all of college football (one of your top teams last year lost to a I-AA team, really?…that…just…happened). Though you have possibly the weakest schedule in the nation this season, you only have two tough games. You should win 10 without breaking a sweat. Unfortunately, your second game will present you with last year’s #1 run defense, a complete returning secondary, an All-American receiver/punt returner, the two top SI Pac-10 freshman running backs (including the TX HS all-time leading rusher), and another wide receiver with a 11.7 ypc average over 52 carries! Not to mention that they won 19 games in the past two years and have the second-best Pac-10 record this century. JoPa is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the sport and you have run a truly classy program, but nobody in the Big Ten can win anything out of conference anymore. Enjoy the fly sweep son!
by Marcy, Brooklyn...Marcy Son, What? on Aug 23, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey
Anyone remember when Tennessee’s “speed” was going to be too much for us to handle in the Outback Bowl?
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Aug 23, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SEC=Speed?
The SEC is fine for the first five yards…they are big and quick, but that doesn’t mean they can actually maintain it past the first down marker (unless they are playing Ohio State). Quoting the Outback Bowl? Seriously? Sounds like an entree…I’ll take shreaded beef and tomatoes in that bowl…Housh, Johnson, Jackson, Barnett—true speed means you play in Hawaii in Feb…how many pro bowl/all-american/all-conference players (let alone winning seasons) has PSU produced in the past seven years? Remind me. The Lions look like Tom Fennel’s 1908 team where they finished 5-5…slow, rebuilding, and confused.
by Marcy, Brooklyn...Marcy Son, What? on Aug 24, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for you...
…because not only do you not have any idea of what you’re talking about, but it obviously doesn’t bother you. It’s painfully clear that you know nothing about PSU, so it’d be good for everyone here if you just stopped embarrassing yourself.
PS – Housh is a possession receiver.
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Aug 24, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes me feel really sad...
is that this guy is on here ragging on PSU fans about how sorry PSU supposedly is, but you look at recent records, and their bowl history <a= href http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/database/oregonstate_database.htm a> you see how weak his arguement is. Four major bowl games since 1941, three of those are Rose Bowls, only one is from the modern era, which according to most football historians began in 1986 when PSU beat Miami for its second national championship, how many does OSU have? ZERO, ZILCH, NADA. Marcy, marcy, marcy can get on here all he or she wants and bark about soft schedules, but bottom line is his team doesn’t exactly stack up against PSU.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Aug 25, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speed, Son
You think the SEC has speed, kinda like how after LSU won the national championship they were a missed extra point away from loosing their opening game to…a Pac-10 school? I’m just checking, cuz I’m confused. Maybe you are talking about a different, faster SEC and a different, slower Pac-10 where 1st year starting QBs don’t get mauled by 4 year starting defensive backfields. And you are right, I don’t know anything about PSU….how many years has your QB started again?
by Tron on Aug 24, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
About as many years...
…as everyone in your Front 7 on defense. But why bother explain it to you? The same way that you’ll say “but but but two of our D-lineman combined for 19 sacks last year,” I could tell you that not a SINGLE Penn State fan out there misses our former 2-year starting QB, Anthony Morelli, or thinks that we’ll be worse off at QB this year.
Buddy, you like to think that you dabble in facts. Well here’s a fact for you…we’ve only lost 2 times in our last 20 home games. And guess what, when we lose to OSU at home, I guarantee I’m not talking about Oregon State.
Long story short, we’re not Maryland, and this isn’t the Emerald Bowl. The sooner you grasp this, the better off you’ll be.
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Aug 24, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And one last thing...
We’re returning the entirety of an O-line which turned a career 3rd-down RB into a 1,300+ yard rusher, despite not starting until the 5th game.
What good is your “speed” going to do when your Front 7 is lying pancaked on the turf?
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Aug 24, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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