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Welcome Back Casual Penn State Fan

Well, well, well...look who's back. Where the hell have you been? The last time we saw you was just before the Michigan State debacle. You didn't even stop by to read my recap of the game. I thought maybe you would check in for some of the bowl game coverage, but no. I guess the Alamo Bowl wasn't worth your time. Hey, I know how it is around the holidays and all. You're busy. It's ok. We understand. It was only Texas A&M. I'm sure you had Christmas presents to return or something that day. Who could blame you?

So now here we are the day before the first game of the year and you're checking in with BSD to see how the team is going to look. Typical. You don't want to park next to us at the tailgate party and you give us smarmy looks when our football bounces into your little wine and cheese circle jerk, but you didn't pay attention all summer long and you hate sitting in the cold so you need to know if you should scalp those Michigan State tickets now or hold on to them in case the team is any good. So you've lowered yourself to visiting a...a...go ahead and say it...a football blog. Oh the humanity. What would your friends say? We promise we won't tell anyone.

At least we won't have to deal with you this weekend. Even though there is a Penn State game scheduled we know you won't be there. There is no way you're passing up one last Labor Day weekend getaway to the beach house in Margate to see Coastal Carolina. Everybody knows the real season starts when Oregon State comes to Happy Valley, so I guess we'll see you then. So go ahead and have a good time. I'm sure you can catch the score on the ESPN bottom line Saturday night. I'm sure it will be a blowout and you can feel good about yourself for not wasting a perfectly good Saturday on Labor Day weekend to go watch a boring football game.

When you do show up you'll know who we are. When you pry your fat ass off the sofa to step outside the motor home and grab a Heineken out of the cooler, take a look across the dirt road at the $20 parking section before you scurry back to the air conditioning. We were there before you got out of bed that morning getting ready for this. Our red faces, stinging from the wind and the sun, are covered in the dust from the road you drove in on at 10 o'clock. We'll still be standing here in the cold November rain while you eat your tickets and watch the Indiana game from home.

We'll be the ones hastily wiping the tears from our eyes so we can watch the drum major nail the flip without blurred vision. When the guy behind you responds to the student section's call "We Are" with a "Penn State" that is a little too loud for your liking, you can turn around and give him a scant look. It's us. And when you get up and leave at the end of the third quarter to beat the traffic, I'll gladly prop my feet up and use your bench as a foot rest.

We are your tired, your poor, and your huddled masses. We donate the minimum to the Nittany Lion Club. We don't get club seats or VIP parking spaces. We come to Penn State to eat, to drink, and to socialize. But more importantly we come for the football. We come to Penn State to feel the tradition. The pride. The sense of being a part of something bigger than ourselves. Whether it's Florida State or Florida International on the schedule, we're there and we're cheering the Lions and we're not leaving until the final second ticks off the clock. You only get twelve Saturdays a year to experience Penn State football. We've been here waiting for this day since the final seconds ticked off the clock in San Antonio, and we're not going to waste a minute of it.

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I can feel it....

It’s almost here….

That last paragraph brought a tear to my eye….Either that or my scolding hot coffee.

by Screen Name 20 on Aug 29, 2008 8:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, if you don’t like RUTS, you can just tell him.

You don’t need to make these anonymous insult posts about him missing the first game (and most others) because he lives too far away. You know, Harrisburg?

by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 29, 2008 8:12 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I HAVE A HANGNAIL.

It’s like you have no compassion.

by Run Up The Score on Aug 29, 2008 9:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, and don’t think just because we park in the red lot four rows away from the stadium and donate an amount to the NLC roughly the same size as the national GDP of Blogswana that we’re not hard core fans.

For crying out loud, we rented an apartment in State College this semester just to make our tailgating that much more efficient. We’re the first ones in the lot at 7am, and the last to leave.

Why? Because we don’t believe in religion. We believe in Penn State football.

by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 29, 2008 8:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Penn State football

A game against Coastal Carolina isn’t Penn State football.

And you guys that willingly pay for this are enabling that kind of shameful scheduling.

by M1EK on Aug 29, 2008 9:02 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any game that PSU is in is Penn State Football

I don’t care who is on the schedule I will be at the game or if I can’t make it watching it on TV. I am happy to watch Penn State Football. Every team has a few bad games on there schedule. I guess this just means a closer parking space for me.

by jetskijoe on Aug 29, 2008 9:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beating up on the weak sisters

isn’t what Penn State football is about. Not in my opinion, anyways. You can go ahead and be proud of a game you’d be making fun of if UM or OSU scheduled them – but I’m not going to enable this despicable behavior.

I wasn’t about to take your parking space anyways. The drive from Texas is a bit too much to pull off.

by M1EK on Aug 29, 2008 9:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give it a rest man.

Seriously, have a beer, smoke some grass, whatever. Just chill out.

For the Glory; National Champions 1982, 1986, 1994,

by jesse. on Aug 29, 2008 10:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone has someone weak on there schedule

PSU: Costal Carolina, Oregon State, Syracuse, Temple

OSU: Youngstown State, Ohio, USC, and Tory

UM: Utah, Miami-Ohio, Notre Dame, and Toledo

I think those even out pretty well.

by jetskijoe on Aug 29, 2008 10:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So what you are saying is

Utah. Miami, Notre Dame and Toeldo all scheduled the same weak team?

Blogging about D.C. Baseball since April '04. Penn State alum. Also partial to the Washington Capitals, New York Yankees and Yale football.

by WFY on Aug 29, 2008 10:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You got it :)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Utah wins.

by jetskijoe on Aug 29, 2008 10:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's plenty of teams to choose from in Texas

If you don’t like PSU football, cheer for them. And don’t give me any crap about Administration this, coaching staff that….the players are still wearing Blue and White, regardless of the opponent.

You strike me as the type of “fan” that Mike is talking about in his post, the guy that never watched a second of football during the Dark Years but complained anyway. Go ahead, stick it to the man by not watching, but please spare us your GD negativity.

by Screen Name 20 on Aug 29, 2008 10:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watched religiously

during the dark years. But I won’t spend a dollar to support this dumbing-down of our program, and neither should you.

by M1EK on Aug 29, 2008 10:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll up it:

You guys in PA can go to the games, or at worst, watch them on TV. I, actually, spent hours trying to find AM radio feeds that hadn’t yet been shut off on the internet so I could listen to the games.

Oh, and, of course, I was in the band for 4 years – while all you megahomers had to do was buy tickets and sit on your asses. Keep on imagining, though.

The fan who is never critical of his program when his program does things that are wrong is no fan – he’s a sycophant.

by M1EK on Aug 29, 2008 11:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Internet Stream audio

M1EK,

I had the same problem last year finding a internet stream to listen to the game. It seems like ESPN radio streams PSU football games. Go to http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/index click on click here to listen. where it says more streams change it to Pittsburgh. That is espn radio 1250AM. They steamed all the PSU games last year.

by jetskijoe on Aug 29, 2008 11:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks and ssssh

I hope it lasts. Several of the stations I used to use for streams must have gotten C&D letters later, because they dropped off.

by M1EK on Aug 29, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, that'd be the very definition of a fan(atic)...

But who said we’re never critical. Am I happy with the OOC schedule, no, but will I support my team, yes.

by Screen Name 20 on Aug 29, 2008 11:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question...

did you move out of PA on your own, or were you chased-out by your “neighbors” with pitch-forks/shovels & scythes…because they want to keep Happy Valley – happy (just like all others want to keep this fine BSD Blogisphere)

…get it now?

Go “enable” yourself on a longhorn…

Old School... MEETS New School!

by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 29, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question...

Mike, I suppose I’m just supposed to sit here and take this crap, right?

by M1EK on Aug 29, 2008 10:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No M1EK

You don’t have to take anything. But you have to understand something. Some people just like to cheer their team no matter what. This isn’t just limited to Penn State. All teams have this demographic. They may have issues with certain parts of the programs, but they don’t let it ruin their experience. They hope their team does well. They cheer even when they are losing until the last second of the last game ticks off the clock. When the team loses they just throw their hands up in the air and say “We’ll get ’em next year.” Though I sort of make fun of these fans in this post, the truth is I still respect them and welcome them to BSD.

But when you come in here calling these people “homers”, or “enablers”, or “kool-aide drinkers”, or “sycophants” you have to realize they are going to take offense to that. And some of them are going to lash out for it. I don’t like to see BSD turn into a shouting match, but I let it go as long as it doesn’t turn into name calling because I don’t want to stiffle debate.

I think we have a very diverse community here. I’m pretty proud of that. Everyone has their opinions and we debate the topic of the day in a very civilized way and then we move on to the next topic. But every thread you take part in sinks down to name calling and finger pointing which is unfortunate, but it’s a trend we shouldn’t ingore.

So do you have to take it? No. You have several options.

1. You can leave. I hope you don’t because I think you add a different point of view that the BSD community is otherwise lacking. But nobody is making you stay here and take a beating.

2. You can let things slide off your back. The best thing you can do to a bully I have found is ignore them and not let them know that they get to you. So you have the option of reading and not commenting.

3. Continue expressing your point of view, but show some tolerance for the fans who don’t consider Penn State football a life or death situation. Let them live in their oblivious utopia where any day they can sit in Beaver Stadium and let the sun, rain, or snow fall on their face is a good day.

by BSD on Aug 29, 2008 12:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're a bad moderator

Go back through this thread, look at the timestamps. I didn’t even use the H word until somebody suggested I “enable” myself on a longhorn.

Don’t just claim to be enforcing standards of good behavior when you only really do it against people like me, with whom you disagree on the points.

by M1EK on Aug 29, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blah Blah Blah

M1EK, you seem to have a problem with everyone and everything.

Everytime you feel the need to complain about other people’s postings, do us all a favor… type your thoughts into the box and then hit the “cancel” key instead of the “post” key.

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Aug 29, 2008 3:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...

"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."

-Tony Hunt

by Cpiritual27 on Aug 29, 2008 6:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

love it

the idiot formerly known as "joepadon"

by nittanyroar on Aug 29, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I apologize...

to both you & BSD Mike for “adding” to it…I won’t make/or take it personally if I read a point that I strongly disagree with…this site is not the place to negativley take a personal shot @ anybody you do not know fully / personally.

I WANT PSU FOOTBALL…I BREATH PSU FOOTBALL; and this site pulls it all together (for me) w/o actually living there anymore.

Thank you BLACK SHOES DIARIES! ! !

Let’s go to the Phyrst…I’ll buy a ‘round…’not scared!

Old School... MEETS New School!

by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 29, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wish I were actually there

and I would man – just a hypothetical olive branch extension!

I’ll be in Charlotte watching @ a bar w/ other fellow grads!

Old School... MEETS New School!

by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 29, 2008 10:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually...

im with mi3k on this one. i haven’t missed an openning game in a few years. i just can’t support playing a d-1aa team, or whatever the hell they call that division now. just perpetuates jim delaney’s scheduling policies.

for those that are going, i wish you nothing but the best times. See you bright and early for oregon.

"That's a [expletive] play!"

by psudrozz on Aug 29, 2008 11:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

last year Michigan

I am sure every Michigan fan felt that way last year playing App St. How would everyone feel if the same thing happens this year?

by jetskijoe on Aug 29, 2008 11:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if that's the case

then i definately wouldn’t want to be in happy valley tomorrow night!

"That's a [expletive] play!"

by psudrozz on Aug 29, 2008 3:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon M1EK

It was meant to be a light-hearted post. Lighten up and laugh a bit. Football season is here.

by BSD on Aug 29, 2008 10:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jerry Rice is creepy

Maybe it’s me, but that picture of Jerry Rice (FFOC ad) looks like Benson.

by Spats on Aug 29, 2008 9:08 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chris Benson?

That is pretty scary. I appreciate that he’s rid of the receding hairline corn row hairstyle. He looked like half the corn field had been harvested on his head.

by Cairo on Aug 29, 2008 10:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh. You're going old school.

Love me some Soap/Benson. Mr. Belvedere was a Benson poser.

by Cairo on Aug 29, 2008 10:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree! Benson was a playa

Mr. Belvedere never had any German maids after him!

Patiently waiting for the return of Penn State Football

by ReadingNitFan on Aug 29, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the game

that we “love-PSU-football-but-can’t-make-the-mental-leap-to-obsess-about-recruiting-season” fans get to use to remember what number goes with the player. This way we can sound intelligent next week when Mike Mauti subs in for Chris Colasanti. Posers? I’ll let you decide.

by Cairo on Aug 29, 2008 10:06 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have no idea what you're talking about!!

“There is no way you’re passing up one last Labor Day weekend getaway to the beach house in Margate to see Coastal Carolina.”

The beach house is in Avalon, not Margate!

Patiently waiting for the return of Penn State Football

by ReadingNitFan on Aug 29, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right Around The Corner

Nothing beats the start of another college football season. I’m looking forward to this even more than the NFL, and I’m a huge GMEN fan (Superbowl Champs!!)

Great post. Although I may only get a chance heading up for 2 games this year, I agree 100% with everything said. I miss the days of having a beer in one hand and a burger in the other at 9am, for a night game. Nothing beats the return to some good old Penn State Football.

On a side not, Oregon St. just lost to Standford? What the hell is that crap OSU? Way to have our game downplayed now.

by Craig07 on Aug 29, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard we got a new quarterback

And our last QB, Michael something is actually a running back.

I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?

by psu on Aug 29, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

25-1/2 hours until

I have to explain to a confused blue-hair lady at the Big Ten bar why our second-string QB is lining up under center.

by Cairo on Aug 29, 2008 11:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The 'Casual Fan'

Mike, I’ve gotta say, this post (and its comments, of course) has got me rethinking what this phrase means to me. I used to freakin hate its use. Hate it! Mostly cuz of its origin: a device media members utilize to remind their readers—their constituents—that they have more access to a sport, its teams and its players and coaches and to assert, quite inaccurately, that, as such, they ‘know’ more about all of it. That they are more and better than the ‘casual fan.’ Those of us in DC have been hearing that kind of nonsense from the Post’s Thomas Boswell for years now. But the game has changed, and, as we saw on that Costas piece a few months back, Blogswana has rewritten the landscape and these dbag columnists are losing their power. The website mob is taking over, and in some cases we’re even showing we’re smarter! (actually not that often yet, but we’re trying).

Anyway, I love what you’ve done with the casual fan here. Its an age-old football tactic, too—playing the underdog card. Rep some bluecollar in the face of the fruh-fruh! Self-deprecating doesn’t hurt either (yeah, we’re the geeks who posted every day of the offseason). And it’s a great narrative, too. All set up to culminate in a celebration of why we’re all here: love, man.

I’m trying to get my last preseason fix, and this hooked me up. I identified most with this line: ’We’ll be the ones hastily wiping the tears from our eyes so we can watch the drum major nail the flip without blurred vision.’ Ain’t a goddamn thing casual about that.

Convivite Nudem!

by jtothep on Aug 29, 2008 11:10 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you....

Can say that you already knew that Coastal Carolina’s QB tomorrow will likely be Wally Richardson’s younger brother, of if you can rattle off the starting 11 on D without thinking about it, or can name 10+ of the incoming freshman on the team, or never had to “catch up” on more than 3 of Mike’s recent posts in any one visit to BSD, or if you figure that you sorta “know” Mike (in not a creepy sorta way) even though you have no idea what his last name is or wouldn’t know it if he was pissing next to you at the urinal to your left during halftime, then sign yourself up on the list of fans that he’s referring to.

by blogue20 on Aug 29, 2008 11:53 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TN Fan

Living in TN, I don’t get to go to many games. In fact, the ones I have been able to go to in the past (and buy tix for) were games like this weekend’s game. And I bought the tix, drove 14 hours straight, sat in the nosebleed, and enjoyed every SECOND. But that’s just me. If I lived in PA, I would be at every game, no matter who were are playing.

And I love cheese. Mmmmmmm. Any food is good tailgate food!

"Red, it took me sixteen years to get here. You play me, and I'll give ya the best I got."

by Touchdown on Aug 29, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you are a true fan

There is nothing I like better than watching PSU cream a team, you get to see the 2cnd and third stringers. My wife always tries to pry me from the TV or stadium in the 3rd quarter but I stand my ground and enjoy every minute.

I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?

by psu on Aug 29, 2008 12:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No lie!

My wife is like…“Honey they are up by 40. Can you please (insert manly chore here) now?” That’s where I say…“But (insert chump team name here) could come back and win! I have to watch to make sure they don’t! You KNOW HOW I GET if we lose right???” HAHAHAHAHA!

"Red, it took me sixteen years to get here. You play me, and I'll give ya the best I got."

by Touchdown on Aug 29, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A football weekend is not just about football

“Let them live in their oblivious utopia where any day they can sit in Beaver Stadium and let the sun, rain, or snow fall on their face is a good day.” When you can only get tix to 1 or 2 games (usually the OOC games) and have to make a multi-state drive to PSU, ANY game is a good game. But it’s more than just the football – it’s tailgating, ladder golf and Yuengling, seeing Mt Nittany, women’s volleyball, soccer, seeing the old dorm, Waffle Shop, the bookstore for blue and white stuff, the shrine, the bars – everything that makes Happy Valley and the PSU football experience what it is. So criticize those of us who go to these “crappy” games, but we’re still gonna go to relive the college days and enjoy a little Happy Valley utopia.

by NJ lion on Aug 29, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

13 games = 39 hours

My girlfriend gives me 39 hours, I’ll give her the other 8000 in a year.

OK, she’s gotta give me the Superbowl, the first two days of March Madness, Masters Sunday too. But you get my point.

by Cairo on Aug 29, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, I agree to an extent with M1EK, I don’t agree with the Bowl Subdivision game, but at the same time the current trend for better or worse is to play those weak teams, so I am going to sit back and enjoy a win.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Aug 29, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

signature quote applies

“Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won’t taste good.”

There’s no honor in beating up on a lower division team.

by M1EK on Aug 29, 2008 4:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how about

How about the honor of making sure we have enough home games to support the rest of the athletic system. Bottom line is we need money, and home games are what gets them. The mid-majors have been taking these paydays for years now, and finally used the cash to build their own stadiums. That means they need to stay home and support their athletics now, so there’s less teams to go around, we make due so we can support the rest of PSU athletics. Obviously, we had hoped Syracuse and Oregon State would be a little better, but hey it didn’t work out that way. I can’t remember if was CC or a team last year that was a last minute replacement because one of our mid-Major gotos (Akron or BG) joined another conference had to schedule another conf game and backed out of playing us.

by queler on Sep 3, 2008 2:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOOOOOOOOO

i havent read anyones post yet, im too excited to not automatically say hell to the yes… this was an awesome post mike, it really damns the man. eff you old man who looks at me when i stand like im still in the student section and the one that shakes his head when i yell till i cant talk because I CAN AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME…..whooooooooo thanks mike

For the glory

by lionalum05 on Aug 29, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NICE!

Me and my buddy had our first confrontation with fellow PSU fans ever at the Orange Bowl in ‘05. We had hunted for tickets, and ended up getting some in the upper level of the endzone. Well, we came to actively cheer our team on to victory for 4 straight quarters, the 75 year old Alum behind us……not so much. We’ve got beads, flags, hats, jerseys, and we’ve been tailgating for about 8 hours.

So PSU Gramps, just can’t handle it any more during about the 3rd quarter. He yanks on my buddy’s Penn State cape, and my buddy flipped out. He said some stuff to the elderly Alum that probably shouldn’t have been said in retaliation. In order to save the situation, I quickly apologized on his behalf and turned around and kept on cheering. The man’s son who was sitting with him, ended up buying me and my buddy beers in apology for his dad’s crankiness.

I’m sorry, but I just GOT to cheer the team to victory, and I hope that I NEVER reach the age where that desire ends, and if at some point I’m not physically able to cheer the team on like I used to, I will look at the Student section full of jealousy, not disgust.

"A setback is just a set up for a comeback." -Drew Brees

by kajpsu on Aug 29, 2008 9:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a casual fan but

also not as hard-core as the blogmasters. I also disagree with scheduling a I-AA team like this. I think the Penn St. athletic department abuses the loyalty of its fans with games like this. Maybe if they charged half-price for the ticket it would be better.

by Joe 96alum on Aug 30, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also I'm not sure if

you meant this post to come off more-light hearted than it actually did, it seemed rather bitter, at least to me.

by Joe 96alum on Aug 30, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoaa! Lighten Up!

Who made you the spokesman for all that’s righteous and holy in Happy Valley? And if you happen on a wine-and-cheese circle where the wine is Carlo Rossi and the cheese is Velveeta, tread lightly. Because if we get your football, we’ll probably cook it and eat it. Go Lions!

by scotty0424 on Aug 30, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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