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Student Tickets to go Paperless in 2009

Found this interesting in the Daily Collegian today.

The 2008 football season will mark the last year Penn State uses paper tickets to admit students to games, athletic department officials said Monday.

Beginning next year, a new system will require students to swipe their ID+ cards at Beaver Stadium's Gate A to be admitted on game day.

"As students enter the game they will swipe their card, and it will tell the person working the gate whether the student is a valid ticket holder," Associate Athletic Director of Marketing and Communication Greg Myford said.

At Saturday's game against Coastal Carolina University, the athletic department tested the new system by requiring students to turn in their tickets and swipe their ID card as they entered the game.

Myford said the card-swiping system this year is merely to record which ticket holders are original ticket purchasers, adding that the system will be in place at every home game this season. Students holding tickets given to them by others will not be punished this year.

Next year, if a student swipes an ID card that is not theirs, the card could be confiscated and the student will be turned away at the gate, he said.

In other news, hundreds of PSU students wonder where their beer money will come from next year.

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That stinks.

I don’t see the logic in restricting students who wish to give away their tickets. In the end, it will just reduce the number of students sitting in the stadium.

Also, I love the massive ticket exchange that goes on at the southeast gates minutes before the game. It looks like the Chicago Board of Trade sometimes.

by Cairo on Sep 2, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So does this mean

that students won’t be able to sell their tickets anymore? Or can they still sell them through the ticket exchange?
And if they can sell them, will they only be able to sell them to other students, or can us old heads still buy them and pay the extra $25 at the BJC to be able to use them?

I’m thinking about going back for a masters degree just so I can sit in the student section for 6 more years! Do they have a masters program for beer, women and football?

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Sep 2, 2008 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's an online system

that students can use to transfer tickets to other students. One restriction is that they can’t transfer a whole year’s worth. Additionally, it’s unknown if they will be allowed to sell them for a profit (at least through the site).

I would think that since you need an ID card to attend games, that sales to non-students are now impossible.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 2, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terrible Idea

I understand the need to keep people from profiting 1000s on scalping tickets but now a person can’t even give away a ticket to a game they can’t attend for whatever reason. There needs to be some leeway or this will feel very overbearing, the school is basically saying you can’t do what you want to do with your own property.

"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled"- Hunter S. Thompson

by phishead_psu on Sep 2, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Non-students are given the

ability to sell their tix, I fail to understand why students should not be allowed. Sometimes missing a game is out of the ticketholders control. I do like tying ticketing to the ID for efficiency and cost savings.

However, I can empathize with those students who miss out on season tickets, only to see those who were able to get them – with no intent on attending, sell for big $$.

www.pinkertonpark.com

by rahpsu92 on Sep 2, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But aren't student tickets much cheaper than regular tix?

And their seats tend to be better as well since they don’t have to worry about being stuck in the upper deck seats (or upper-upper deck like in the south endzone).

But I do agree that they should be allowed to do what they like with their own property.

Not to mention how empty the student section will look when all the people who get too drunk to go to the game can’t simply give their paper ticket away. Especially for those night games when people are tailgating and drinking for 12+ hours before the game.

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Sep 2, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't like this

i couldn’t attend some of the games due to personal matters (guard duty, traveling for other psu sports, etc.), so i either gave the tix away or sold them at face value.

i know the people (non students, alumni, that is)that were on the recieving end were only too happy to take them off my hands.

i understand why the administration is doing this, but i am not sure this is the answer.

"That's a [expletive] play!"

by psudrozz on Sep 2, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This isn't all the information

when they discussed this last year, the plan includes an online exchange. So if you are a student and buy season tickets, you will have the ability to transfer the ticket to another student’s ID for face value.

It sounds like non-students might be out here, but there is still a possibility that could work the $25 stamp they run now into the system. This eliminates blatent student scalping, and the priority should be to allow all students a chance to see the games at a reasonable price. This does that.

by Kevin HD on Sep 2, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Side Deals

This is going to create a situation where students become Cosa Nostra. They will sell tickets for face value but make side deals with the buyer. Not sure how they will work considering once the ticket is purchased, the buyer can stiff the student for the rest of the “side deal” money. This will cause more fights and outrage.

Let them sell tickets. Penn State has a great business school, the students are just using what they learn in school, law of supply and demand

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Sep 2, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If someone decides to strike a deal

only to screw their counterparty over – that individual will need to deal with the consequences. I typically only sold/sell tickets to folks I know so I would expect an acquaintance to respect the deal. Otherwise payback is a bitch.

www.pinkertonpark.com

by rahpsu92 on Sep 2, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if this becomes the norm

and by that I mean every transfer includes some kind of ‘side deal’, they could easily eliminate that by making the matching random. By that I mean, if you want to sell your ticket, you submit it on the site, then, when a ticketless student logs on to buy, you are matched without actually knowing who you bought/sold to. It’s a much more liquid system, anyway.

by Kevin HD on Sep 2, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

That is the only way to keep side deals from happening.

The idea here is to remove scalping by students. As many students as possible who want a chance to go to a game should be able to do so at face value.

by WallyC on Sep 3, 2008 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Always one step ahead....

of the masses, that is how the Man keeps us down.

www.pinkertonpark.com

by rahpsu92 on Sep 2, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

surprised

I was surprised today to see this as the top story of the Collegian. The Ath. Dept. mentioned months ago that they were looking to do this. I think its a great idea.

"Boy that student section now is up and really making a gigantic amount of noise. You see the sea of white, the white out. Well they are 2 minutes and 28 seconds away from the whiteout of the Buckeyes here tonight." - Ron Franklin

by rmcmillen50 on Sep 2, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's never going to be a perfect system

But this addresses the major problem, as I see it — students who buy a season ticket package solely for the profit down the road. If this reduces the demand for the profit-seekers and still allows transfers for individual tickets, that’s pretty good.

by Run Up The Score on Sep 2, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My reaction

This is good for students. The only people this pisses off are the ones who like to sell their Ohio State or Michigan ticket for $200 or the student who gets season tickets because he/she likes to go to one or two games a year and doesn’t want to pay $200 a ticket. Theoretically now it’s easier for that student who only goes to one or two games a year to buy individual tickets at the ticket exchange website for a reasonable price.

It seems to me the system now is geared to get tickets into the hands of people who want to go to the games and keeps it out of the hands of the people who just want to turn them around for illegal profit. This is a good thing.

by BSD on Sep 2, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK. Then it changes things.

The online exchange is a good thing, especially for games against mid-grade opponents. Maybe it will get tickets to the people who want to be there.

by Cairo on Sep 2, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The drawback though

No more giving your unused Coastal Carolina ticket to your buddy to sell to some old fart at the gate right before kickoff. A lot of students will end up eating their tickets and I bet the student section will have 20 empty rows at the top for most games where the opponent isn’t Ohio State or Michigan. We’ll see if ESPN still calls us the best student section in the country when that happens.

by BSD on Sep 2, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you bring up a good point

With this new system, I think there should be a penalty for not going to the game or selling back your ticket ahead of time. That would encourage students to take action and be responsible, and not just wake up at 1130am and say, “screw this i’m too hungover”.

"Boy that student section now is up and really making a gigantic amount of noise. You see the sea of white, the white out. Well they are 2 minutes and 28 seconds away from the whiteout of the Buckeyes here tonight." - Ron Franklin

by rmcmillen50 on Sep 2, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like maybe a reward system

For every game you attend you get a credit. At the end of the year if you went to all seven home games you get first dibs on season tickets the next year. Then the people that went to six games get their shot and on down the line. If you only went to one game you’ll have to sweat it out and hope for the leftovers.

Once all the tickets are distributed they should open it up for one week to allow students to sell tickets they know right off the bat they aren’t going to use right back to the university. Then they should make those tickets available for single game sales to students who couldn’t get season tickets.

by BSD on Sep 2, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a great idea

That way we will get the die hard students at every game and the rest will have to prove their loyalty!

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Sep 2, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good idea

that reward system would be smart. However it wouldn’t really apply to seniors. but i suppose nothing is perfect.

"Boy that student section now is up and really making a gigantic amount of noise. You see the sea of white, the white out. Well they are 2 minutes and 28 seconds away from the whiteout of the Buckeyes here tonight." - Ron Franklin

by rmcmillen50 on Sep 2, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

So maybe you give seniors a half a NLC point for every game they attend their senior year.

by BSD on Sep 2, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy who flakes out.

and doesn’t appear at the gate? Wouldn’t it be their own ticket with this system instead of yours? It’s your own fault if you’re a student, don’t attend the game and don’t put it up for sale.

With this system it’s possible to have a station at the gate where you could buy a ticket right there if they’re available. I’d imagine you could put it up for sale 20 minutes before the game starts and still have a chance it sells. I think it will max out the student section.

by Cairo on Sep 2, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised by some of the opposition to this

I’m a junior right now, and for the past two years have been screwed out of student tickets while hundreds of students sell their tickets for a profit (and by profit I mean upwards of $1500, when we pay only about $220 for our season tickets), leaving the loyal Lion fans (i.e. myself) having to scramble, or pay a ridiculous amount of money for a ticket. I’ll hold my judgements until the system is in place, but at this point, I only see this as a positive in that it rewards students who actually bought tickets to attend the games to actually go, while weeding out the ones who only want to sell them for profit. Only the most loyal and spirited fans are allowed to go to the games, as it should be.

by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 2, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks buddy!

I agree with you 100. From the time i heard about this i was in favor of it 100. To many of my friends bought tickets this year for the sole purpose of selling them but profit and not going to any of the games. Actually a friend sold his tickets for $1500 and went out and bought a TV to watch the games on. That’s stupid in my eyes, especially for a fan. I like the idea of being able to get online and sell your ticket to another student for less because tonight i was offered an oregon state ticket for $80. Are you kidding me? I’m a supporter 100% of the new ticket system. For all the people who aren’t, you’re into penn state tickets for the wrong reason.

For the Glory of Old State

by PSULion29 on Sep 3, 2008 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A good thing for students

I think this is a great thing and a long time coming. When I attended, you were practically guaranteed season tickets and in my 4 years I didn’t miss a game. I think it is sad that some students are not getting the opportunity to purchase season tickets. The more things in place to ensure that current students are able to get tickets the better.

In fact, there is nothing more annoying that a 70 year old man complaining that people are standing in front of him while he is sitting in the student section. Students are the the loudest, craziest, most intense fans in the stadium and for that reason alone should dictate the value of getting actual students into the student section.

by bmg125 on Sep 2, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure how you were guaranteed tickets...

the student population hasn’t changed much, however the number of student tickets has increased a bit since I graduated in ’92. The system has changed, giving the lazy student who has no intention on attending games a better shot at getting tickets.

I remember waiting by the mailbox in the summer for my app so could send it out the same day it came in.

www.pinkertonpark.com

by rahpsu92 on Sep 3, 2008 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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