Grading The Defense: Black Is White, Linebackers Are Suck
Defensive Line: B. It's been said that holding could be called on every play if the referees look hard enough. Well, holding really could've been called on nearly every Illinois offensive play. There were multiple instances of Illinois offensive linemen grabbing a fistful of jersey, directly in the view of officials and without penalty. It's a Big Ten tradition, after all. In particular, Jared Odrick was held all night.
The pass rush wasn't particularly vicious by Penn State standards, which makes me think that Tom Bradley called for the "mush rush" against Juice Williams, forcing him to operate from the pocket. Ollie Ogbu continues his solid play, clogging up the middle and blowing up a screen play in the second quarter. Maurice Evans recorded the Lions' only sack. Aaron Maybin was surprisingly solid against the run.
Linebackers: C-. Ghastly. That would be a good start to describe the play of Penn State's linebackers, except for the man quickly becoming known as "Lavarro". Josh Hull is the kind of guy that everybody wants to succeed, but it's just not happening. This is no exaggeration -- his bad-to-good play ratio was about 10:1. It's embarrassing and heartbreaking. Tyrell Sales was barely adequate. He and Hull were blocked rather easily by the Illinois offensive line all night long. Neither are remotely quick enough to stop plays to the outside. Or anywhere else. Bani Gbadyu got a little playing time, and didn't do much of anything.
Secondary: B. Can't really complain too much. Benn made an All-American touchdown catch against Lydell Sargeant. Something weird happened on Benn's second touchdown -- Mark Rubin let him run by, apparently expecting help over the top when no help was forthcoming. Obvious blown coverage. There were a few others, but Juice couldn't take advantage. Rubin and Drew Astorino were both great (yes, great) in run support. Scirrotto still isn't the best tackler, but he's a ball hawk in the middle of the field. Oh, and A.J. Wallace was awesome all night (but needs to be on the bench for kickoff returns).
Glaring Problems: Well, the linebackers. Obviously. I'm not sure what can really be done, because it's difficult to determine what options the coaches actually have. We all knew that Sean Lee's injury was catastrophic, and Saturday night was the proof. Lavorro is the only linebacker who deserves a starting role right now. It's up to the coaches to find a solution. Perhaps the best option is sliding Sales into the middle and using Bani Gbadyu, Nate Stupar, or Mike Mauti as the other linebacker. But something has to be done.
Another potentially troubling development was the difficulty defending practically every read-option play the Illini ran. Makes you wonder what might happen when Terrelle Pryor and Beanie Wells are on the other side of the ball instead of Juice and Dufresne. Maybe that problem fades a bit with different linebackers, but the time to get other LB combinations is right now. Waiting a few more weeks will lead to a disaster against Ohio State, nevermind against Wisconsin's power running game in two weeks.
Overall Grade: B-. Nothing to be particularly ashamed of, but it won't go down as a particularly great defensive effort.
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A thought...
We’ve done well by adapting our offense to our personnel. Is there something like that we could do defensively? That is, rather than shaking up our personnel, simply change our playcalling or formations to compensate for our weaknesses and make the LB position less important to the D’s success? I don’t know if that’s practical at this point in the season or what the change might be, so I guess I’m just throwing it out there.
by PSUox50 on Sep 29, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
1) my mother called me up and asked me where the linebackers were. i was proud of her. then it dawned on me that if my mother could tell where the weakness was….
2) half the bar down here in arlington as screaming “HOLDING” on many plays. nothing you can really do about it, i guess.
"Son, if it were up to me, there wouldn't even be numbers"
by psudrozz on Sep 29, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Team could go with more Big Nickel packages..
The fifth DB is a run-stuffing safety instead of a Nickel corner-back.
Rubin, Astorino, & AS would do a decent job of stuffing the run and our defense would never be nearly as vulnerable to the passing attack, especially down the seams.
by dyehardfan on Sep 30, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor LB Play
The poor play of the LBs is keyed by the D-line. If LBs are getting hit by the O-line, the D-line is simply not doing its job. I have questioned Penn State’s d-line all year and thought they were going to be a weakness of this team (With Baker, Taylor, Evans and Koroma I thought the d-line was weak.)
The only reason the Penn State defense played so well was because they only played one safety during the game. This allowed 3 LBs to stay on the field to make plays.
For reasons I can’t comprehend Zook did not attack the Penn State secondary. He should have. Whenever Illinois was lined up with two WRs to one side and one to the other they should have called two deep passing routes on the side with two WRs. A deep post and go route. One of the two WRs would have been single covered on every play. I guess Juice isn’t good enough to make that play.
All night the Lions defense dared and taunted Illinois to throw the ball and all night Illinois chickened out.
If Illinois’ o-line caused problems for PSU’s D, Wisconsin will be a nightmare. Their o-line is huge and their FB is a monster.
The Penn State defense is not going to win any games this year. It is always going to fall on the offense to pull out the win.
by DrDetroit on Sep 30, 2008 7:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like
UW had their way with Michigan?
With UW, you have the option of stacking the box and selling out against the run. That QB is pretty terrible, and makes even worse decisions when pressured. Moreover, they can’t play from behind.
Everidge in the shotgun is something, I feel, we should be striving for.
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Sep 30, 2008 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta disagree with the Doctor
With Baker and Taylor, the DL was quite excellent last year except for one game (Ohio State). Hell, they were in Michigan’s backfield all afternoon, not that it helped.
In this case, it really is the linebackers. They’re taking false steps and running themselves into positions where they’re easily blocked.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 30, 2008 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it weren't for the D-line being as good as they are
The linebackers would be even more exposed at not being able to make plays and getting shoved around by running backs. Even Dufresne manhandled Hull a time or two. Eeeuugh. And “Uh-Oh”-manawanuwi simply ran away from him after that catch across the middle, how can he not even catch that guy?
by blogue20 on Sep 30, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to refer to him as Uh-oh Maui Wowie!
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Sep 30, 2008 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the way the defense is performing this year
I really wish Lee didn’t get injured and King didn’t declare for the NFL.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 30, 2008 8:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does losing King hurt us that much?
I’ve been surprised how well the secondary has played so far. Wallace’s play to break up the touchdown without getting pass interference was amazing. Benn is the best WR we’ll face this year (now that James Hardy’s gone). Last year the secondary seemed disappointing, and this year they are exceeding my expectations.
by pjk on Sep 30, 2008 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hull...
played really poorly. No denying it. That 10:1 ratio is about right.
“Perhaps the best option is sliding Sales into the middle and using Bani Gbadyu, Nate Stupar, or Mike Mauti as the other linebacker was really.”
I said the exact same thing after I rewatched the game on Sunday. If Colasanti was the answer, he’d already be playing. And since he isn’t getting ANY playing time, it’s clear we need to look elsewhere for a solution. Sales is a senior, so he should know the playbook well enough to slide over. That gives either Nate or Bani the nod on the outside. I’ll take the former, personally, but either should be an improvement over the current situation.
by BSM PSU 93 on Sep 30, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish it wasn't the case.
Like I said, I hate piling on the guy, but he’s killing us out there.
Another option, as mentioned above is going heavy on the nickel defense.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 30, 2008 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colasanti
What is the deal with this kid? He must stink…god knows Hull is not the answer. Although he is slightly better than Gino Capone
by SweepTheLeg on Sep 30, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't looked too good
In admitted limited playing time. Might be worth an extended look at some point, though.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 30, 2008 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hull
I can’t agree more with you, RUTS. I reeaaallly want Hull to suceed out there. He has done everything right…good student in the classroom, student of the game, works hard, has the desire to be the best he can be, etc. The fact is that he is just a step too slow to play at this level.
I don’t know if Bradley will pull the trigger and try a new rotation out there at LB. I hope he does it sooner rather than later.
by Rocky Mountain Nittany Lion on Sep 30, 2008 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They definitely need to adjust
some things on the defensive side of the ball. I agree with what most of you have said. Josh Hull has a hard time getting off blocks and seems to be one step behind on every play. This can’t continue to go on as the biggest games lie ahead. If Colasanti were ready to play, he would be in there. It’s obvious they don’t think he is ready. I wonder if they could try something like moving Sales to the middle, then Bani and Navarro on the outside. Stupar and Mauti probably aren’t ready for a starting role but experimenting this weekend wouldn’t hurt anything. Did anyone else take notice to Gaines playing some DT on Saturday? I thought that was an interesting move. Evans and Maybin on opposite ends could be a lethal weapon if used consistently. Whatever they decide to change, if anything, I hope it’s changed quickly. I don’t want to go to Madison and Columbus and have that feeling of nervousness because they can’t come up with a big stop. They will need some big stops down the stretch to get to Miami.
by LIONHEAD2477 on Sep 30, 2008 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense
Illinois had a week to prepare, came out, ran every thing they came up with and scored on their first two possesions.
After that, they had a a TD on a blown coverage, and a field goal after a fumble.
So basicly after the first quarter, we pretty much had our way on defense. We could not have been that bad.
Also, there are not too many teams left on our schedule that have Illinois talent on the offensive side of the ball (I can’t think of one). I think we’ll be okay on defense.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Sep 30, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fallacy
Yes we only gave up 10 points after the 1st quarter blitz. But Illinois was consistently picking up 7, 8, 9, yards on option plays. All varieties of the option they ran from the gun, whether it was classic veer, zone read, or sprint/fire options worked consistently. We got lucky to an extent because: 1) we were ahead and they couldnt afford to run every play, (2) they don’t have a very complex passing offense, and (3) they shot themselves in the foot with penalties and juice’s INT. Obviously the option is their base running game, but many many teams run all or much of this look now, and with the exception of juice and regis benn, UI’s offensive personnel didnt impress me much.
I don’t think Hull was ever in position to make a play on the outside option…which is what the MLB has to do. You hope that the DE can take dive, OLB can be on quarterback, and CB/S will handle pitch if need be, but the middle backer is your ace in the hole that should be able to cover up if someone gets fooled by the trickery. Hull is not capable of doing that. We have struggled historically with Illinois’ option looks, and if anyone thinks the 4.5 ypc they put up on us is a fluke and will not be studied by other teams and be exploited you are crazy. If you arent terrified by the idea of Pryor and Wells running zone reads all day behind that massive buckeye line, then you are a fool. I can only hope that TB is trying to get stupar, mauti, or colasanti ready to go. stupar has looked like a stud on special teams thus far.
by Governator on Sep 30, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
When you are playing with a lead, you will play zone, and you will be subject to giving up running plays for seven or eight yards. It is not even necessarily a bad thing. It’s frustrating to watch, but that’s Penn State football. They stopped that option play in a few very important circumstances as well.
Ohio State is different animal entirely. Accounting for Benn was priority one on Saturday. Against Ohio State, accounting for Wells and Pryor will be 1 and 1a, but they will be lining up next to each other, giving us the ability to key on the option more than we could against Illinois.
The why Illinois spread attack (and our’s incidentally) works is because you can’t sleep on the passing game. Pryor has been efficient in the passing game this season, but if you look at his stats it is clear they are holding things out of the playbook, and relying on their running game. It would have been a much different game last year in State College if Ohio State did not have the confidence in their quarterback to open up their passing game.
We have struggled historically with Illinois’ option looks</em. Not really true, we struggled with Mendenhall. We struggled with Benn. Those are two legit NFL first round picks there, Ohio State struggled with them too last season, so did Missouri this year. Historically, we are very strong against the option.
I think as the season goes on, that we’ll look back on this as a better win than we’re currently giving it credit for.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Sep 30, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good points
benn and mendenhall are legit talents…but I’m not convinced that daniel dufresne and whoever else running alongside juice on saturday is an nfl player. and its not like we had a massive lead and were content to let the illini run out the clock for us…it was a close game most of the way, no more than 10 points spread for any length of time until after AQ’s touchdown. I don’t think bend but don’t break is what you look for when all the other team needs is two TDs to win the game. especially when the quarterback is not a lights out passer. all I’m trying to say is that our struggles defensively in this game are getting glossed over because we put up 38, and that may come back to bite us eventually. look, I hope that Illinois is the second best team in the B10 eventually, and this win looks really good, but at this point the way the defense played gives me worries for Ohio State.
by Governator on Sep 30, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you play a team like Illinois you are giving up yards.
That’s just a fact. Penn State’s defenses, even our very good ones, have never stressed much about giving up yards.
The question is how do you give up those yards, and can you keep from giving up points? The best way to do that, in my opinion, is limit the touches that their best player (Benn) gets and let the two guys that probably won’t see Sundays (Williams & Dufrense) try and beat you running a play that we generally defense pretty well. Penn State has been stopping the option since it was invented.
Keep in mind Illinois scored 27 points last year, when we had Lee, King and Connor. Hard to imagine reading this thread, but you can make an argument that Penn State’s defense played better against the Illini than they did last year (I understand that no Rashard Mendenhall was an issue).
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Sep 30, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am in no way a football expert
and I don’t have any stats to back this up, just personal observations, but it seems that most teams I’ve ever watched that run the option, tend to stall in the red zone (more than most offenses stall in the redzone). Perhaps it is because the corners and safeties are closer, and can move in on the play and stop it, but I’ve never been scared of an option team scoring, despite them usually making up huge chunks of yardage mid-field.
Now of course if that team has a power runner who can run it up the middle, or a good TE, or even some good WRs, that changes things a bit.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 30, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mauti
Does anyone else remember the preseason talk about Mauti that this kid is just so good he might have to get a step quicker and play safety for us just to get him on the field. I think we overhype here a bit too much sometimes and now we dont even know where to grab a LB from.
by PSUgavemeAnAlcoholproblem on Sep 30, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is more to playing linebacker than speed
You have to know, among other things, where to be. Penn State is going to play the slow kid that knows what to do over a fast kid that doesn’t 100% of the time.
It’s hard for a freshman to get on the field at linebacker. Pozlusny and Connor both did, but not until later in the season. I suspect that Hull will eventually get beat out by a one of the more talented freshman, once those kids learn how to play the position properly. But it’s not entirely realistic to expect that it will happen in less than two months.
Try to be patient. Bradley knows what he’s doing.
"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008
by jesse. on Sep 30, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just remember
i didnt mean play him at LB, for some reason i remember a quote that said they may try to play him at safety just to get him on the field, forget the quickness thing
by PSUgavemeAnAlcoholproblem on Sep 30, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linebackers play does need to improve
However, as the point was made, we held them to 10 points the last 3 quarters…this defense will need to hold the line as the offense scores – likely we’re going to see a LOT of bend don’t break in effort to minimize damage…the only problem is that we put the ball on the ground a lot…a good defense will be able to capitalize and turn these into turnovers shortening the field. My biggest worry is that when we face an OSU or Wisky we’ll do just that, and they’ll be able to capitalize…
by pennst92 on Sep 30, 2008 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
put Navorro Bowman in the middle
Why not move Hull to the right or left side. I don’t think he is good enough to play middle. He seems a step to slow but I have to admit he knows how to tackle. After rewatching the game I didn’t see anytime that he missed a tackle just seemed slow to me.
by jetskijoe on Sep 30, 2008 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he's too slow for the middle
He’ll get utterly smoked on the outside.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 30, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
But he seems to be a great tackler. Could we move on of the DE back then?
by jetskijoe on Sep 30, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The second loss of Hayes
really put a damper on adjustment options in this dept.
Convivite Nudem!
by jtothep on Sep 30, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we're stuck, to be honest.
There are various forms of putting lipstick on the pig, but I don’t think that’s one of them. It’s not like we have a ton of spare DE’s, anyway, and you can’t expect any of them to learn an entirely new position. If we still had Jerome Hayes, we might have some more options, but that’s it.
The options appear to be:
1. Do nothing.
2. Sales to the middle, Hull to the bench, bring in one of the younger guys to play OLB opposite Bowman.
3. Play lots of nickel (although it seemed that Hull was in all of the nickel packages)
4. Bring in a younger guy to play MLB (Colasanti, etc.) and leave Bowman and Sales at OLB.
Everybody, feel free to add more possibilities. But I think #1 is the most likely scenario.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 30, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another possibility would be
To have the student section point and laugh at him everytime he is a step slow on a play to shame him into working more on his foot speed in practice.
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Sep 30, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play a 3-4
I know that is a crazy thought but it just might work. I think we are stuck also.
by jetskijoe on Sep 30, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too late for that, too.
Can’t change base defenses in mid-season. Not now.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 30, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you're probably right...
- is the most likely to happen. Though #3 looks pretty darn good… as long as the coaches are smart enough to start taking Hull out (leaving Sales and Bowman as teh LBs). I’m also in favor of at least trying #4 (with Colasanti) on a few series this week against Purdue… might as well give the kid a shot at it.
by BSM PSU 93 on Sep 30, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The more I think about this...
…the more I think they at least have to try Colasanti in the middle. All of his playing time has been in mop-up duty, and they should at least give him an extended look against Purdue’s starters in an attempt to find out what the kid has. Poor Hull was absolutely obliterated out there against Illinois. If Colasanti is making mistakes, at least we can hope they’ll be aggressive, more athletic mistakes. It’s probably worth a shot.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 30, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
Give him a shot with the first team in the first half and see what he brings to the table. I’m not a betting man, but my money would be on him to showcase a few powerful hits and some aggressive tackling. He’d probably make a mistake or two (and who could blame him), but that could definitely be chalked up to inexperience more than anything else.
by BSM PSU 93 on Sep 30, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Illustration
FOS did a great PSU playbook showing astorino stuffing an option pitch to Benn. It does a great job of showing why the option from the gun is so tricky.
http://207.44.194.112/users/Brennan/2008FBImages/ILLAstornioPB2/index.htm
First, maybin is unblocked on the backside of the zone scheme. He does his job, which is to take the dive back and not look at the ball. Well done here by 59.
Unfortunately, Hull bites on the dive mesh, and is unable to close down on Juice, who has the ball and is running around the outside. Astorino saves his bacon, and gets some help from the sideline because illinois is running this play into the boundary. 28 forces juice to give up the ball, and because of the lack of space is still in position to make the play on benn. If illinois ran that look to the other side, its probably a first down.
by Governator on Sep 30, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Incredible breakdown
Normally that stuff is waaay over my head but when it’s broken down like that, you really start to appreciate what’s going on.
by GreatScawt on Sep 30, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They do very good work.
Always been a FOS guy myself. Nothing against BWI, I have no idea what goes on over there. Do they do similar stuff?
by Run Up The Score on Sep 30, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bye Week
I think if a Freshman is going to crack the starting lineup the decision will be made during that off week or the week before.
PSU Softball
by QBsneak12 on Sep 30, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Give Illinois
an “A” for effort in this game, they came out with an aggressive game plan. The Lions are giving up too many 6+ yard rushes up the middle for my liking, although they seem to be able to come up with key stops. Failing on 4th down at midfield would have killed Illinois if we had converted that to 7.
by Joe 96alum on Sep 30, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wallace
What the hell happened to this kid? Was ’06 just a dream? Back then it felt like he could take any given kick to the house, now it seems like he can barely get to the 20.
by nittanyroar on Sep 30, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its simple
He’s being too cute. He catches the kickoff at the goalline, sneaks up to the 15 and then tries to find something. Problem is he’s laying on his back before this “something” happens. He just needs to catch it and run.
by blogue20 on Sep 30, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
I wanted to mention that too. On his first return against Illinois he danced around wayyyy too long.
by nittanyroar on Sep 30, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever!!!
I am confounded week after week listening to you people. Our linebackers don’t suck. I will explain. Navarro Bowman is a stud, Sales is not far behind. Illinois keyed on the outside linebackers all night to get there option going. Did Sales have a great night? No, but everyone has subpar games now again. Some other poster said our d-line stinks?#@? Are you kidding me Ask Zook how bad and awful our d-line is, or better yet go ask Oregon State who blew the #1 team away last week about ‘em. You people say we suck if we don’t hold every team to minus yards rushing and passing. Ridiculous. Illinois has some extremely talented players. This was a good team. They have lost to 2 top 6 teams, they will not lose many more. Give the other team some credit. You are not going to line up at this level and beat everyone 75-0. The lack of true football knowledge in this blog and in these comments is astonishing.
by A4g on Sep 30, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
someone woke up on the wrong side of bed ;-)
By the way, a C- is still a passing grade, and leaves a lot of room for improvement. THey even said that Bowman did well, and that Sales was adequate, which he was. The biggest criticism was for Josh Hull, who although plays his heart out, and really seems to “know” what to do, he is just a step too slow in actually doing it.
B is an above average grade, which is what the D-line earned.
The Illini offense was able to have their way running the option against us. You think that a unit that gave up 4.5 yards per carry (D-line and LBs) should get better than the grades they got? 4.5 ypc is pretty much guaranteed first downs every set.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 30, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As you say...
“You are not going to line up at this level and beat everyone 75-0”.
Correct. We won by less than two touchdowns while scoring 38 points. So, quite obviously, our defense doesn’t deserve all A’s. We were above average in most respects, but capable of improvement as the season progresses. Most importantly, as Penn State football fans, we’re all here to discuss that fact and to make observations on what can and should be done to manifest this improvement. In all, if you’re not here to do that, then it’s possible you found the wrong blog.
by BSM PSU 93 on Sep 30, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not me
I’m just here for the drugs and hot chicks
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 30, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike
your hot chicks sound hot….
… so does your mom.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 1, 2008 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hull
I kind of agree about the subpar play of Hull. But the more we talk about it, I fear a similar reaction from Paterno as with Morelli last year. Joe always rallies around such players and his stubborn attitude makes it less likely to change. He would never want to let the media/fans think they influenced his decision.
by jabama on Sep 30, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AJ
Maybe I’m nitt picking on TB but we really need AJ to be the “lock” down corner. Not just the lock down one side of the field. He should have been all over Benn all night long like a Fly on Sh*t. I know most defenses these days don’t roll their shut down corner where ever the best WR is, but AJ really should. There was no reason Mark should have been on Benn for his last TD.
Thoughts?
by cmdpsu15 on Sep 30, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And
Sarge got totally turned completely around on the first TD. Granted, Benn made a one in a thousand type catch on the play. But Sarge looked bad. Benn could have been standing straight up and there was nothing Sarge was going to do about it.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 30, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked like he gave up on it.
He just kind of pulled up about 4 yards deep in the end zone, apparently thinking it was out of bounds.
by Run Up The Score on Oct 1, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I recall correctly,
didn’t he get pushed-off right before/or @ the goal line and that contributed to the seperation and being turned around? ? ?
" We need MORE cowbell !"
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 1, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he did
My Dad was yelling “That Illinois guy pushed off” at the TV.
Apparently the refs didn’t hear him.
by NJ lion on Oct 1, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, no.
I don’t think that was a push-off at all. Certainly nothing that should’ve been called. It wasn’t even a subtle Michael Irvin style push-off.
by Run Up The Score on Oct 3, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
" I AM YOUR FATHER...! "
HA!
" We need MORE cowbell !"
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 2, 2008 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
linebackers
I have never seen more fairweather PSU fans in one place at one time. The D beat the buckeyes IN Columbus last night. . . Bowman (game MVP)!!!
by thePennst.d on Oct 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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