5204 Apartment Update
by BSD on Sep 3, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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The CDT has offered more details on the Nittany Apartment incident last night.
News reports about police converging on an apartment shared by three Penn State football players turned out to be based on a pretty routine incident — police breaking up a loud party.Penn State police Lt. Bill Moerschbacher said police did find and seize a small amount of marijuana from the residence, but he said that a “Special Response Unit” truck was at the scene only because that’s the vehicle police happened to be driving last night.
Moerschbacher said police received a complaint about a loud party at Nittany Apartments number 5204 about 8 p.m.
According to Penn State’s online directory, football players Maurice Evans and Abe Koroma reside at that apartment.
When police arrived, they saw a small amount of marijuana, Moerschbacher said. Police got a search warrant from District Judge Carmine Prestia and seized several related items from the apartment, Moerschbacher said.
Moerschbacher said he could not comment on any suspects, but there was no arrest made last night. Any citations filed will likely be sent through the mail, he said.
Does anyone know how to split an ounce of marijuana four ways? If so the State College district attourney would like to have a word with you.
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According to the Collegian
Quarless and Wallace were there, but Evans and Koroma were not — they were just listed on the search warrants as current tenants. Sounds like a large group of people were there, but if Quarless turns out to be guilty, well…
That's huge...
if Evans and Koroma weren’t there. It sucks that any players were involved. But we can’t afford to take any more hits to the D Line.
Wallace
also said he was sleeping at his girlfriend’s house the last couple nights, whatever you want to make of that. If it was a loud party, it could’ve been anyone’s weed, so hopefully it is
at least he didn't jump offsides.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Sep 3, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If it was me...
and I really have no experience in this area…
other than watching my buddy’s Dad bust into his room while he and our other friend were doing just that. Friend #1 quickly hid the goods only to be called out by his Dad. Dad subsequently divided said product into four portions – then took two for himself. Friend #1 later explained that he hid the product no to keep his innocence in the eyes of his Dad but to keep his Dad out of his weed.
www.pinkertonpark.com
I think Penn Staters
are justified in their overreaction…we can’t afford any more of this BS…
Not convinced yet.
As I mentioned an hour or two over on the FOS boards, this all isn’t adding up to me. I don’t think it’s as minor or as simple as some are making it out to be.
Call it a bad hunch if you want.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 3, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
Convenient that now the players weren’t there. Also seems a bit fishy that the riot squad was called because someone smelled pot.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 3, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
So What are You Suggesting?
That what may have gone down is a bigger deal than the media/police is making it out to be at this point?
Or that the police were a bit overzealous in their actions and are trying to explain their way out of it?
No, I think the police...
…appear to be on the right side of things here.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 3, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless they were camped out at Nittany Apartments on their nightly rounds, waiting to see who they could bust.
Someone accidentally turned the stereo up too loud for a minute, and BOOM – probable cause.
Wouldn’t put it past the people who arrested Scott Paxson for riding a bike he found in a dumpster.
by Tailgate Shogun on Sep 3, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
NCAA Drug policy?
Does anyone know what the NCAA drug policy is? Does it include the use of MJ?
Could player drug testing be in the works with possible suspensions?
MJ is included...
BUT from my own experience, I have seen guys who you KNOW are stoners pass those test. How? I don’t have a clue, other than I saw one guy tape a saline bottle to his penis and fill it with someone elses urine to pass…but I don’t know if all of them have done that…
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
Drug testing
When I was in college I seemed to get tested every semester. There is no way to hide a bottle of urine anywhere. The people we had test from the NCAA made you pull down your pants to your ankles, lift your sack and do a complete 360. It was pretty embarassing espcially the first time I had test it was in front of a woman. Oh yeah and they actually watch you pee. On another note there were guys who I saw smoking weed a week before test pass.
We had
to pull down the pants but we didnt have to face them as we urinated. And the sack thing we didnt do either. That is really demeaning.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
Drug testing
definately could flush it out of your system. Not an expert in this area, but I knew a wrestler who did it a couple days before a big tournament, told his coaches, then got it completely out of his system before the drug test for the tourney
Metabolism issue
Really well conditioned athletes could get it out of their system faster because they have lower body fat.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Same friend I noted above...
passed a scheduled work drug test a day after smoking by drink a gallon of water about 1/2 hour before the test. He peed pure H2O.
www.pinkertonpark.com
that was
a funny story, btw. I guess it does make sense though, low body fat, less chance of getting caught and getting it out of your system (RUTS)
that won't work
The THC will not be detected but you will fail because the urine is too dilute.
I don't know, Mello Yello is pretty awful. What's the worst that could happen?
by psu on Sep 3, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It did at the time, I guess Tyson isn't as
particular as NCAA. It has been a number of years and I’m sure things have been refined to catch people wokrin the system.
THC
will stay in your system for 30 days. Alcohol and drugs like cocaine dissipate much faster. A urine test is no wear near as accurate as a blood test. There are products for sale at GNC that will help you beat NCAA or workplace testing. “PSU” is correct that if your pee is too dilute the NCAA will require and additional test. Most of the products sold to help hide the THC require use for several days before the test. Also I have heard people say that Evans and Koroma can not be charged if they were not present. This is not the case. If the weed was located in their personal living area (their bedroom or in and around their bed), charges can be filed (and knowing this DA, will be) by the DA’s office.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
Drugs,
alcohol and nicotine actually don’t remain in your system as long as you might think. Urine testing (which I’m sure is used due to cost factors) also has a shorter ‘fail window’ than a full blood screen.
Unannounced testing, of course, will nab your ass if you were making love to your TOKER 2 the previous night, but 3 days notice is pretty much all that’s needed to get clean enough to pass urinalysis. YMMV slightly with cocaine or opiates, but not much. Hardcore daily stoners should allow about a week.
Keep this in mind when scheduling your next life insurance application’s paramed appointment.
This is inside info from within the insurance industry, and NOT notes from personal field tests of pharmaceutical and / or herbal products.
No Sir.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Sep 3, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure, but
…how many players do you hear suspended for testing positive for drugs in college? Not possession or intent to distribute, but testing positive for personal use? Not many, if any.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 3, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t “violation of team rules” code speak for failing a drug test?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 3, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that's a good point
That accounts for some of it, I’m sure.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it is included...
I have sat through the required meetings for NCAA freshman…It is listed and they do tell you NOT to use it, but that hardly stops anyone interested in doing it.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
Let’s see…fighting, drinking and now mary jane…what are college student/athletes going to do next ??
I wouldn't bet on it at this rate
Will the real Derrick Williams please stand up?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 3, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
From the Collegian:
"Police were seen carrying a cardboard box with a bag or envelope inside. Police took the box inside apartment 5204.
At about 1:30 a.m. today, four police officers left the apartment, one carrying two paper bags and another carrying a cardboard box.
At least one member of Residence Life was inside the apartment. At about 1:30 a.m., he left with another man, the two of them carrying a speaker, a speaker stand and two duffel bags. They then re-entered the apartment and carried out two more bags and two hard cases."
What is up with the speakers? Can’t be just because of loud music right? And if it was just a small amount of reefer what is with the hard cases and all the boxes being removed? Too many questions of which we have almost no answers yet.
The speakers
It was the RA that took the speakers and bags. I’m guessing he was breaking up the party and helping someone carry their speakers to their car or residence. Or maybe he was kicking out the guy that was temporarily living there and helping him remove his stuff?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 3, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just about to say the same thing. Duffle bags and hard cases are owned by the guy shacking up in Wallace’s room. RA probably has the responsiblity to keep out non-residents.
Although to be fair when I first heard hard cases I was thinking two silver briefcases – one filled with benjamins and the other a desert eagle. Another far scarier scenario that would have led to immediate arrests. Maybe I have watched the Boondock Saints one too many times.
one thing to point out about the speakers
they were being removed by the RA, not the police. I have no idea what that means, but it might be relevant.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
If there's someone shacking up in their apt.
he should just cop to the weed and get rid of this dammit!
I'm guessing the 5.0
were headed back to the station to burn a few buds and lacked fly tunes to chill to – thus the confiscation of the music playing apparatus.
On a lighter note...
Daryll Clark has earned an extra year of eligibility.
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2008/09/03/clark_earns_extra_year_of_elig.aspx
"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled"- Hunter S. Thompson
I just wanna know
Who calls the police on a party at 8 pm??!!! If it was 1 or 2 am, then maybe I could understand, but 8:00 – that justs baffles me.
For the glory
Sorry about that, P80
It was probably me and my posse in Pinchot that aggravated ya.
If, of course, you’re talking about ‘74/’75.
Which you’re not.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Sep 3, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
First week of class
Who calls the police during syllabus week? That’s the bigger question. Does anyone actually do work during that week? I used it to build up my tolerance.
Might be time to round
up the posse and knock some heads. Some pecilneck needs showing who’s boss. I would start with the nextdoor neighbors.
You just got your asses whipped by a bunch of goddamned nerds.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 3, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because this is one of the greatest movies ever:
"Clap your hands everybody, and everybody clap your hands. We’re Lambda Lambda Lambda and Omega Mu. We come here on stage tonight to do our show for you. We got a rockin rhythm and a hi-tech sound that’ll make you move your body down to the ground. We got Poindexter on the violin, and Lewis and Gilbert will be joining. We got Booger Presley on the mean guitar and a rap by little ol’ me Lamar. We got Takashi beating on his gong, the boys and the mu’s are clapping along. And just when you thought, ya seen it all, along comes a Lambda four foot tall. So won’t ya come on out here on the floor, so we can move our bodies, like never before. "
by Tailgate Shogun on Sep 3, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Mary Jane
It’s JoePa’s. He mistakenly left his medicinal marijuana at their apartment.
“It’s for his glaucoma, officer, I swear.”
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
The scariest thing..
is what I’m reading on the scout.com boards, in which a so-called person in the know is saying that Evans and Karoma are gone because they refused a drug test. The Penn State online community would explode from the repercussions if that were true.
I was out in the trenches, which enables me to paint such a powerful picture, like Apocalypse Now.-Cormega
Yes
But it was found in their place, and I guess through scholarship agreements, the have to consent at anytime a drug test is needed. And the scuttlebutt is that they didn’t, so they were asked to “clean out their lockers”. Who knows what that will exactly come to mean.
I was out in the trenches, which enables me to paint such a powerful picture, like Apocalypse Now.-Cormega
This is bizarre
All we’re getting now are rumors and innuendo. Personally, I don’t believe anything I read on Audibles. So let’s not let this thread get out of hand. Let’s just wait until more facts are revealed and then we will discuss the consequences.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 3, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
everyone knows next to nothing about what exactly happened. I was just posting it because I thought the rumor represented the absolute worst this whole thing could be. I’m leaning towards this incident being semi-serious, but like you said lets wait and see.
I was out in the trenches, which enables me to paint such a powerful picture, like Apocalypse Now.-Cormega
They don't get caught
They use their Southern Speed to run away.
Will the real Derrick Williams please stand up?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 3, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking
The last kid I can remember getting removed openly from a team for weed was that RB (Coker maybe) from the Fulmer Cups own UT.
JoePa in '09
Didn't Mario Manningham test positive last year?
How many games did he miss?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 3, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he sat out one game I think
for “team rules”, if I remember right no one even discovered it was week related until months after it happened.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
Thanks Mike
Always proving me wrong :-)
JoePa in '09
...may no act of ours bring shame....
my arse. let’s vow not to allow any criminals, thugs or worst of all…any idiots on the team from now on. ok? Joe are you listening? Turn up the hearing aide. State College Keystone Kops are salivating…probably don’t need dogs to smell the weed.
For Discussion's sake...
Lets say there was a pot farm in there. I’m saying, like, a greenhouse full of weed. You know the first thing ESPN will do is send a goon to find someone to tell them it was Joe’s fault, and that hes completely lost control.
But, I’d want to ask this person how Joe is supposed to stop this? Tell the players pot is bad? Throw someone off the team as an example for wrong-dooers (done)? Use some hip, modern lingo to help them understand this?
I just don’t see how Joe can be blamed for this. He isn’t a baby sitter. Hes a football coach. What would Greg Schiano or Kirk Ferentz have done to stop this, or any of the other problems we’ve had in the last year +?
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
He could claim the players were the victim and cry to the press, like Stoops just did at Oklahoma when his underage players ended up in a gun/knife/pipe battle at a bar.
by Tailgate Shogun on Sep 3, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Slow down there Shogun
I suggest you find out the full story behind the OU stabbings before you rip on Stoops. I think the guy is overrated to say the least but it was a private party that non-invited guests tried to crash and when they couldn’t get in, they stabbed a few guys (athletes) who were getting in. Now, what underage athletes are doing having a private party in a shady part of the city is beyond me, but it isn’t like these guys tracked down a spitter 2 hours later to beat the shit out of them and got stabbed in the process. It really was random as to who the victims were.
JoePa in '09
Oh, I don’t claim to know the facts. But Stoops getting in front of the story instead of behind it is smart.
No one will bother to ask what 18 year old kids were doing in a bar now…
by Tailgate Shogun on Sep 3, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
So
my poli sci prof is a big criminal defense attorney up here and he said he was late to class today because hes been dealing with this case all day. From reading between the lines it sounds like the cops found way more than an ounce.
does his last name
start with an L? i dont want to out anyone out of consideration, but i think i’ve had the same guy before
For the glory
yea
its the same guy, dont spit the name tho, prof is professor
The rumor
circulating around campus is that there was 100 pounds of pot found in that room. If that’s true, Jesus Christ we’re fucked
100 lbs of weed
Is a LOT of weed. I think the cops would’ve been carrying more than a few nondescript bags and speakers from the apartment if that were the case.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
Wow
When I said “pot farm” I was being completely sarcastic.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by Adam Bittner on Sep 3, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
All I can tell you
is that’s what I’ve heard. I don’t know how accurate it is [probably not] but I’m scared. Really scared.
by DevonEdwards on Sep 3, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
especially since
the first sentence of the collegian article says “Police said a small amount of marijuana was found Tuesday night in a Nittany Apartments..” http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2008/09/03/police_marijuana_found_in_apar.aspx
i would probably call that a RUMOR. oh hey, gullible is written on the ceiling, could you wash it off for me?
For the glory
100 lbs
would make Bam Morris look clean….
JoePa in '09
If there was 100 lbs of weed...
…these kids would be gone by now.
C’mon, how much does a guy like Mo Evans (future 1st round pick) stand to lose by dealing pot? There’s just no way I can believe this…
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
and...
I’m sure more than just the Penn State police would have been involved…
That being said, 1/100th of a pound is too much… these guys need to know better and know that everything that they do will be looked at under a microscope…
Unfortunately, Judge Snyders reasoning of, “Boys will be boys”, can no longer apply to our football players
by erieisforlovers on Sep 3, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
Slightly related, for what it's worth
The team didn’t make it in for dinner until nearly 7 pm tonight (I should know, I was in the *$^# dishroom)- mayhaps practice ran a bit long? Dunno, figured someone else could make more out of this than I can.
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Sep 3, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
Another Hot Rumor
…has Evans and Koroma refusing to take a drug test and being kicked off immediately. No word on Quarless and Wallace.
Again, this is pure rumor, from what I’ve heard around campus. I hope to god that this isn’t true. We can’t really stand to lose any of these guys, but especially not the DL guys. I’m scared, I really am.
Not scared, just frustrated
There is something really fishy going on at PSU. This is so f&*(^$*ing frustrating. I thought this stuff was behind us and we were moving forward.
I am a huge conspiracy theorist, so here is my attempt to justify…
Spanier wants JoePa out so he has the police sitting outside of players rooms and just waiting for one little item to bust them….
How else could you explain a noise violation at 8 pm??
Pat Devlin in '08, er, '09
Feels like a Disaster
After the ESPN piece, Joe has no alternative really.
My guess is they are waiting for drug test results and I’m just guessing but it’s highlylikely we lose all 4. I desperately hope I’m wrong but if they found pot I think the odds are all were smoking it.
I dont think that’s something you would live with and not say anything if you werent using it knowing the scrutiny.
If so, the season is over before it starts.
This isnt Joe’s fault, it’s the players. They had to know the risk they were taking.They seem to have .have egos the size of Beaver stadium
Update...
from today’s collegian:
“The warrant listed Nova, Wallace and Quarless as being at the apartment Tuesday night. Neither Evans nor Koroma was listed as being at the apartment Tuesday night, with the warrant only listing them as two of the most recent tenants.”
We can survive without Quarless, losing Wallace hurts but not too bad. If we lose Evans or Koroma, we’re done.
Guys
Calm down. No need to be scared. This is not a disaster. We’re not done. Even if we lose all four we’ll manage to put eleven guys on the field. Penn State football will go on.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Thanks Mike,
I kind of needed to hear that right now.
"A setback is just a set up for a comeback." -Drew Brees
Regardless of what the end result is...
Quarless needs to go. He is nothing but trouble.
Pat Devlin in '08, er, '09
100 lbs?
What the f—-!?!?! If all of this proves to be true, there’s really no way for Joe to have prevented it, but it would be time to drain the swamp. Unfortunately, this could be that final push to end it all. I was really hoping for a big season (with no public black eyes) for Joe to go out on, but if this is true…..just, oh my god!
100 lbs is absolutely ridiculous
I would imagine 1lb probably fills a schoolbag…if it was 100 they would’ve been walking out of there with many, many dufflebags and people would’ve been arrested on the spot. Plus, I don’t think 100 lbs would classify as the so called “small amount”.
by Screen Name 20 on Sep 4, 2008 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Right
I don’t think they would mail out violations for 100 lbs.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 4, 2008 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
On a bright note...
At least we aren’t Pitt fans!
Cheer up….we have a great offense this year. We have 4 great RB’s that all have 3+ years of eligibility. Two good QBs with 2+ years. Possibly the best O-lineman in PSU history with 3 years of eligiblity (all including this year).
The sky is still Blue and White!
Pat Devlin in '08, er, '09
This is probably
getting blown up way more than it should be. I didn’t catch it last night but apparently Comcast in Philly was attacking Joe and the program. Some of this can be expected considering the not-so distant airing of OTL, but there’s been nothing but vague descriptions of the incident which may or may not have included up to 4 PSU football players. Yes, it was at their apartment but the least they could do is refrain from bashing until they get a full disclosure of the facts.
Also, I found this incident from last year inciteful, but TIFWIW….A TTU player was arrested on the scene for less than 2 ounces.
But that was in Texas
the land of electric chairs for jerry’s kids, and landmark Supreme Court cases involving sodomy….They aren’t as laid back as other areas of the country.
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Sep 4, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
True
but there was also a case involving South Carolina players a few years back…arrested on the spot. Just like in Texas they were caught red handed with possession, but I have a feeling they’re going to have a hard time linking the MJ to any of the players, if it is indeed in fact their’s.
There’s No Name on My Jersey did a write up on the MJ laws in PA…
http://gloryofoldstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/legal-ramifications-of-marijuana.html
by Screen Name 20 on Sep 4, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Does It Really Matter........
I mean……..I am not a Lawyer, but what is different about coming into a house where there is dope and say……..The Grandmother who gets in trouble because her name is on the house out of which her Grandson is peddling dope ? Or the guy that gets pulled over on Cops and has pot or meth in the car and claims its the hooker in the passenger seats drugs ? I think in both instances the cops don’t HAVE to prove the drugs belong to either…….if you are around it you are in trouble. But like I said……..I am not a Lawyer.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
Don't know
how either case would be handled. I’m just saying that from the instances cited, they made the arrests instantaneously. whereas in this case, they didn’t.
But whether innocent or not, the fact that they are around it with all the problems we’ve rehashed 1.3 trillion times this offseason, is stupid. They shouldn’t be putting themselves in this type of situation.
by Screen Name 20 on Sep 4, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I live in South Carolina...
It isn’t far behind Texas in terms of Baptist zealousy pervading local politics…
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Sep 4, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
It Would Be Interesting........
to take all the players that have been cited for something over the last 18 months and see if there is any correlation with their entrance qualifications.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
Also....
I mentioned in an earlier post that it seemd players on the defensive side of the ball were finding themselves in trouble more often than the offensiev side (with the exception of Quarless and Blade). Someone else also made a good point in saying that, of late, it seemd to involve defensive linemen, and a lot of players from the DC or Maryland area.
I hate to agree with ESPN, but perhaps character is something that is being overlooked. Maybe it’s difficult to identify the character issues because there’s no record of them – a lot of these kids ae made of teflon because winning at a HS level is now more important. There have been three or four different HS games on ESPN channels this week, alone.
Maryland
Im from maryland and have never got in a fight, got busted for underage, or got caught with pot……
I am starting to wonder what they put...
in the crab cakes down in Maryland….
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Sep 4, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You're from Maryland?
I’ve got my eyes on you! You’re under suspicion immediately!
Patiently waiting for the return of Penn State Football
by ReadingNitFan on Sep 4, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Not on ESPN.com
But give it time, I guess. The one thing that I did find on ESPN was this article about our “smurfs.” http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=3568624.
Who came up with that nickname?
For the glory
Stupid is as stupid does
How can this be possible?? Maybe we’ve been faking these high graduation rates all these years.
Makes me wanna holler!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uhhhhh.....
Let me just say this.
In my 4 years at Penn State.
I was busted for drinking in the dorms.
I smoked my fair share of weed, but I wasn’t what you would call a “heavy user”.
I have had apartment parties broken up by the cops for getting too rowdy, without ANY charges being filed or searches being made.
And, I have driven myself around numerous times, when I most definitely should not have been behind the wheel.
I don’t say this because I’m proud of all of this, but because they were all experiences that were part of my growing up at Penn State.
Somehow, through all of this ‘mayhem’ I managed to Graduate on time with Honors, and I would venture to say that there are a lot of Penn Staters out there with similar stories.
The only difference between a lot of us PSU Alums, and these guys, is that our names didn’t appear on the PSU Depth Chart.
I mean I know there is no excuse for there actions, but DAMN.
I’m about ready to suggest building a compound on campus for the whole Football team, that has around the clock security. They could only leave for class and practice. And this wouldn’t be to keep an eye on THEM, but to protect them from the f!#$%Q POLICE.
"A setback is just a set up for a comeback." -Drew Brees
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