Paterno: Evans, Koroma, Quarless Out For Saturday
by Run Up The Score on Sep 4, 2008 7:02 PM EDT
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So says the old man from Brooklyn on his weekly call-in show. A.J. Wallace will play. Also, Willie Harriott has been removed from the team. Scuttlebutt is a DUI the night after the Nittany Apartments incident.
I don't care if a few players are getting high*, in that the act itself doesn't appall me considering the grand spectrum of Football Player Shenanigans. It's the utter lack of regard for consequences in the face of ongoing disciplinary incidents that is troubling. Forget the drugs, team loyalty, leadership, and all that other stuff for a moment. Even for selfish reasons, doesn't it have to click in the mind of guys like Evans and Wallace that they should be looking out for the size of their own wallets in less than two years? Why have the stuff in the apartment in the first place? They just cost themselves 10-20 spots in the NFL draft at a minimum, even if they're completely clean.
* -- Allegedly, counselor.
UPDATE from Mike: The Daily Collegian has the story.
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Eventually
all the problems will be gone right?
by psuphiman80 on Sep 4, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Drug Tests!!!
Well, ESPN just reported that the 3 boys will be doing some drug testing soon.
by deihlba on Sep 4, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting to sound that way
At least for these immediate problems.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 4, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We're about
a team on-field brawl away from getting a permanent “new U” branding from the media.
by gumbercules on Sep 4, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
M1EK
was right…we are the new Miami.
Yo
by SweepTheLeg on Sep 4, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was about to say...
the same thing.
Anyone else feel like throwing up?
by 4thand15 on Sep 4, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hit post button too early...we need a edit function
…You would think after all the problems in the last 2 years these guys would know better.
DUI? That is just DUMB!!!!!!!!!! You know the cops are out looking for this…why tempt fate?
by SweepTheLeg on Sep 4, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where was he driving anyway? The campus is small enough to walk anywhere.
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Sep 4, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always wonder that
when I hear about these. I just don’t get it.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on Sep 4, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop me if you've heard this
But football players are notoriously lazy off the field. My wife had a class with Curtis Enis and had a group paper they had to work on. She lived in Pollock, so they would meet in Pollock library to work. Curtis of course lived in Nittany apartments. When they got done one night Curtis asked my wife if she needed a ride home. She said, “That’s ok. I live right across the quad.” So they leave the library and Enis gets in his car, which was parked in a handicap space, and drives home across the street to his apartment.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it's bad news
but if we’re getting rid of kids maybe third times a charm. He was gone for way less, they may have thought they would need to get into way more trouble to be gone. I believe the three with the apartment are being made into an example. Hopefully they’ll be back.
by psuphiman80 on Sep 4, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know what to say....
I don’t know who to blame? What to think?
I just know that I think the current off the field culture of Penn State Football has grown too complicated and tiring for me to grasp.
(Scratching my head) I say,
go state, beat beavers?
"A setback is just a set up for a comeback." -Drew Brees
by kajpsu on Sep 4, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point
You need to blame Joe…it starts at the top
I almost wonder if Spanier has a secret deal w/ the Po Po???
by SweepTheLeg on Sep 4, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conspiracy Theory
I thought same thing. The apartment incident is bad enough, but to turn around and get a DUI on the following night? What depths of stupidity do these guys wish to reach? F*ckity! F*ckity! F*ck! F*ck! F*ckity! F*ck!!!!!!!!!
by Spats on Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
blaaaahhhhhhh
this sucks.
"Boy that student section now is up and really making a gigantic amount of noise. You see the sea of white, the white out. Well they are 2 minutes and 28 seconds away from the whiteout of the Buckeyes here tonight." - Ron Franklin
by rmcmillen50 on Sep 4, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a loss
A loss this week will surely seal the end for Pappy. The reason being it was the direct result of losing players because of the legal issues. If we lose this week I hope we lose the rest of our games.
by shiloh on Sep 4, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This game...
was goign to be 48-24 anyways… now it will just be 48-34… we still win…
I will be there, but I may just get REALLY drunk tailgaiting, and instead of going to the game, go to the Willard steps and preach (read: scream) at people about how F’ing stupid these kids are…
by erieisforlovers on Sep 4, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Segue into related point
Is the Willard preacher still alive and preaching?
by cpm126 on Sep 4, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you after this weekend...
We will be fighting over good real estate on those stairs if he is…
by erieisforlovers on Sep 4, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heckuva job, fellas!
F’n awesome!
Will the real Derrick Williams please stand up?
by ReadingRambler on Sep 4, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There it is
“It’s the utter lack of regard for consequences in the face of ongoing disciplinary incidents that is troubling.”
There it is right there. That’s the part that will baffle any thinking person.
I must say that is an excellent piece of logic. Well written
by Jeff at the BBC on Sep 4, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've waited 8 months to see PSU football again
and now I almost don’t care about this team anymore. I was looking forward to a weekend in Happy Valley, but I could save the money and a long drive and stay home and watch my kids’ soccer games. (Elementary school soccer – egads!) Or mow the lawn. Or poke my eyes out with a fork.
If it wasn’t for players like Wiliams, Butler, Norwood, Devlin, Clark, Royster, Green, etc., I think I’d give up on this team.
And why is it always D players (except for no-good Quarless)?? The offense is gotta be ready to kill these guys (not literally, obviously, cause that’s illegal too.)
by NJ lion on Sep 4, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well,
Chris Bell was willing to give it a try….
by Spats on Sep 4, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will spell the end for Quarless
He’s an idiot, plain and simple. Joe should have known he was a f*ck-up when he busted up JoePa’s knee.
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Sep 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ever remember hearing ...
JoePa saying #10’s name in a presser – or some live / post game coverage?
“Quaw-less…” in his own Brooklyn way…
Old School... MEETS New School!
by BlueWhiteLife on Sep 5, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing.
How many times did we say to ourselves “I’m ready for the season to just start already, we can put an end to all of this and get on with football” ? I guess we forgot these thing can happen any time, but to circle back with what RUTS said, you’d think the added focus of actually being in season would help some of these guys stay out of trouble.
Guess not.
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on Sep 4, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dear coach,
all this stress of being a top player, having to have good grades, AND play football? at the same time? i smoke because it calms me and keeps me focused when I’m reading the playbook and listening to my music. truthfully coach I didn’t know that it was too loud… i could barely hear it above my own voice memorizing the plays….
sincerely,
[enter player name here]
For the glory
by lionalum05 on Sep 4, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to cut thru
the reports/allegations and such…help me out:
The ESPN ticker on TV right now backs up what Joe’s presser stated; but WAS IT NOT TRUE that Abe & Mo WERE NOT @ the apartment when this went down? IF that is accurate AND they are waiting for their piss tests to come back – then their “could be” a slight sigh of relief there.
Not to over-state this obvious ditty, but if Quarrelsome tests positive, he’ll be playing AA ball.
Old School... MEETS New School!
by BlueWhiteLife on Sep 4, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
quarless
could be the new TE for the California Penal League.
For the glory
by lionalum05 on Sep 4, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing
The Collegian article specifically mentioned that Mo and Koroma were NOT in the apartment at the time (only Quarless and Wallace(????)), so I’m officially confused. Way to go guys, you’re now officially responsible for giving ESPN a hard on.
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 4, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe
is making an example of them. If they all come back with a clean piss test and no charges they will be good to go.
by psuphiman80 on Sep 4, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just read "BSD Mike" update
on the Collegian update posting. Wallace really not involved? Then what, HE was not there, one could conclude…still no actual conclusion for Mo & Abe; would have to guess someone identified that they WERE there @ some point in the evening…and left before the po-po’s got there – I guess?
Old School... MEETS New School!
by BlueWhiteLife on Sep 4, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McLane reports:
“According to a team source, however, Evans and Koroma were punished, along with Quarless, because marijuana "residue” was found in their bedrooms. Nothing was found in Wallace’s room, the source said."
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on Sep 5, 2008 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miami
I know this is late, but let’s remember that at least when the U was all over the police blotter, at least they were playing in BCS games. We have guys that can’t stay out of trouble, yet still only go 9-4 every season.
by Deezy24 on Sep 4, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOoooo! Let's reserve judgement on these players until.....
we get the results of their drug tests. IF they are clean all of you comparing us to the U are out of line. When I was in school…..I was at parties and in dorm rooms where others were doing drugs or drinking underage. Did that make me a bad person or irresponsible…I don’t think so. It is very possible that Evans, Koroma and Quarless were not even involved with the weed at all. I mean do we know if Evans and Koroma were even there? Earlier reports made it sound like they were not. Sounds like they may be getting drawn into this whole thing just becase they live in the apartment were one bud was found. Let’s just wait until the facts come out until we compare ourselves to the U. BTW if you think PSU players were not at parties in the 90s when people were tokin….you all are delusional!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
by pic15 on Sep 4, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Over Stated
Fights, weed, and alcohol. Big whoop. I’m not proud of this by any stretch, but lets keep everything in perspective before we start making comparisons to “The U”. The truth is, the same stuff can happen at 7th grader Brad’s house when he has a party while his parents are out of town.
I’m disappointed, and embarrassed, but not yet appalled. The Austin Scott case alone scared me more than the other problems combined. When the crime gets to that (alleged) level, then I may start to panic, but right now, I’m more ashamed than outraged.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Sep 4, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t get over the fact that these guys keep jumping in, despite the blood in the water and the circling sharks. Whether it was one bud, or not, it’s the fact that these guys keep surrounding themselves with others who have no regard for themselves, the staff, or others on the team. I almost laugh when I think of the theme to the Penn State Story. These guys play for family? For those that came before them? If they are innocent, then they need to remove themselves from those negative influences (read: Quarless). May no act of ours bring shame. Yeah, right. I’m just disgusted.
by Spats on Sep 4, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention........
The U was the U 20 years ago when their behavior was, relative to cultural standards, way more ricidulous and unseemly. One need only look at the mere prescence of such a thing as the Fulmer Cup to see where we are today in College Football. However, this is what happens when you strut your stuff for 40 years……you screw up and everybody is on you. If this is Alabama or UT its probably not a big deal because they haven’t taunted themselves as the orginators of “The Grand Experiment”.
Not to sound cheesy, and sad as it is, if you stand up and espouse a particular standard and don’t live up to it you catch way more shit than the guy who doesn’t ever accomplish anything and doesn’t portend to.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on Sep 5, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You, sir
just got recommended.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 5, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid
How F*cking stupid do you seriously have to be: We’re (or my friend is) smoking some weed in our appartment, which is illegal, why don’t we turn the music all the way up too? Don’t worry, no one EVER gets busted that way. We’ll be fine too, because some of our teammates already got in a shitload of trouble, so we’re basically untouchable since ESPN already did their piece. Plus Joe never told us to stay out of trouble. Nope, not after the Merridian fight. Not after the HUB fight. Not after the underages and DUIs. We got nothing to worry about. Turn up the music
by WPIALkid22 on Sep 4, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
I’m just going to fire up the XBox and play my career with my 7’ 400 lb running back and forget about this nonsense. At least my little digital guys with the big hearts aren’t acting like morons.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
by 06Lion on Sep 4, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shit like this...
happens in East Halls and nobody bats an eyelid. In the first two weeks, I’ve seen about 50 kids smoking weed, multiple kids snorting cocaine, and just about everyone engaging in underage drinking. I’ve heard confirmed stories of date rape, of taking advantage of girls…nobody should care that football players do it.
by DevonEdwards on Sep 4, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What?
Just because everyone else is doing it doesn’t make it right. I hope these guys get whatevers coming to them, but I just hope it doesn’t destroy Joe Paterno.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Sep 4, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN........
maybe they weren’t making it up when they stated that PSU was recruiting players of questionable character. As I stated in another post, I would love to see the entrance qualifications of all these doofus’. Last I checked, there was an inverse relationship between intelligence and criminal behavior. The last 24 months, the behavior of this team would support that relationship and consequently ESPN’s insuation.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on Sep 4, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Response.......
If anyone gives me shit about this whole thing………..I am just going to smile and admit what an embarrassment this has been. No defending anything. Defending the indefensible makes you look bad.
Eric Watters Atlanta, Ga.
by ech2os on Sep 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they're just trying to maintain our status
as a Top 5 party school.
by NJ lion on Sep 4, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is what it is
I’m not going to let this ruin my season. The time to cut the cancer out of this team is long overdue. If it means we go 6-6 so be it. At least it will be an honorable 6-6. We probably weren’t going anywhere anyway with the way these guys thought stomping Coastal Carolina was worth throwing a party and getting high. I wonder what they would have done if we had beat Michigan or Ohio State.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 4, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could he change his mind?
Lets say tomorrow someone else finds that they are all clean. Can they still play on Saturday or is it a done deal? I know that nothing will come up but I was just wandering. I also feel as if Quarless should be kicked off the team he has been nothing but a trouble maker. Get some kid that wants to play and win and has a good head on his shoulder. I mean if I was one of these kids I wouldn’t want to risk it at a party they could be getting paid. Look at what some of the NFL stars are signing for these days. Not worth it for a little bit of pot.
by jetskijoe on Sep 4, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
coaches can do whatever they want
There is no official “he’s sitting list”. Remember last year when Saban “suspended” one of his players against some cupcake, but then put him back in when the game turned out to be close?
Kevin @ Black Shoe Diaries
by Kevin HD on Sep 4, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least we're not South Carolina
They just lost a nonconference game to to MIT.
by gumbercules on Sep 4, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't MIT
and it was a conference game against Vanderbilt…
Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno
by carolinaeasy on Sep 5, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, just making a joke.
South Carolina, or pretty much any SEC team, should never lose to a team with far higher recruiting requirements like Vanderbilt.
by gumbercules on Sep 5, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 thoughts
1. This is why Joe should have retired by now. What the hell does he need to put up with this crap for?
2. Lee, King, Baker, Taylor, Still, Evans, and Koroma. That’s an all-american LB, all-conference CB, two rotations at DT, and all-american DE that could all be playing in this game Saturday but aren’t for one reason or another.
by speedomike on Sep 5, 2008 6:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
of all people
Mo Evans. I’m so disgusted right now.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Sep 5, 2008 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get off your soap box...
If the test comes back clean, he did nothing wrong. I’m still confused as to whether he was even there?? Remember, it was a PARTY!! There’s no certainty that it was his weed, or still that he was even there.
If they did something wrong, punish them. But if not…innocent until proven guilty.
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
by Cpiritual27 on Sep 5, 2008 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
However, they should be smart enough to police themselves. At this point they can’t even go to the bathroom w/o it being in the media so why do these guys keep putting themselves in situations that could POTENTIALLY get them in a boat load of trouble and ruin their futures at PSU. Even if none of them were smoking the weed, just having it there is a recipe for disaster and they aren’t even smart enough to say, “take it somewhere else!” I just don’t get it. How hard is it to keep your nose clean for a few years?
by PSU Jen on Sep 5, 2008 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what is going on.
Quarless and Wallace were there when the cops showed up. Okay. Quarless is suspended; Wallace isn’t. Hmm.
Is it because of past transgressions? Can’t be, because both Koroma and Evans were not there when the cops showed up and both were suspended. So why were they suspended if they were supposedly not there, while Wallace, who was there, is not. What information did Joe get his hands on to determine this punishment and determine why those 3 have to take a drug test while Wallace doesn’t?
by Screen Name 20 on Sep 5, 2008 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Quarless is
convicted of any crime he might be facing 15-30 days in jail given that he is currently on ARD for DUI. I believe they are pretty strict about that. That ought to be a wake up call. I also believe that this was Harriott’s second DUI this year. Thus the immediate dismissal.
by kmpsu on Sep 5, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what a load of crap
I’m so disgusted…This just puts me over the edge with this team. I wish I could root for some other team but I can’t because I’ve bled blue and white for the past twenty five years even when I was playing for another team in college. Joe has been an Icon and a poster child for what is right in college football and now I believe his reputation is tarnished. Its time to move on Joe… You have lost control.
by han_solo on Sep 5, 2008 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I suspect this
seals Joe’s fate. 2009 is it. Better make it a good one.
by kmpsu on Sep 5, 2008 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 game suspension
This is best case scenario for the long term… Joe suspends them so he shows everyone he’s not putting up with this, even though we already know he doesn’t put up with it. They get drug tested next week which is plenty of time to run to GNC and pick something up. They’ll test clean and that will be it…
Until we know more details, this should be pretty easy to side step… unless the police definitely know who brought the weed, they won’t be able to pin it on anyone… especially if there were other people there…
by WETSU on Sep 5, 2008 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Make it a 3 game
suspension. Outside of this Saturday it won’t have much of an impact but would send a stronger message. On the positive front, this likely means Evans isn’t leaving for the NFL after this season.
by kmpsu on Sep 5, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think a three game suspension is in order here. With Syracuse and Temple coming up it’s not like it’s a huge loss.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 5, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits
These boneheads are living proof of that
I bleed Blue and White.
by Horse N Buggy on Sep 5, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
suspending a pre-season all-american will tell the team that anyone can get punished….I hope.
by blt on Sep 5, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok, so who's left to start on the line this week?
Gaines and ….?
by PSU Mudder on Sep 5, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DLine
I think we’re looking at Gaines, Odrick, Ogbu, and Hayes with Maybin, Lattimore, McEowen, and Crawford rotating in. Gaines will probably play a lot of defensive tackle this week. OSU isn’t very good at running up the middle so we could use his speed and that would allow us to get Maybin and Lattimore more time at DE.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 5, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say
Okoli get’s in before Crawford.
by psuphiman80 on Sep 5, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot Okoli
But Crawford did play last week too.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 5, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okoli
is around 300lbs so I think he’s more suited to get in. Crawford may play but if I were a betting man I’d go with Okoli.
by psuphiman80 on Sep 5, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crawford...
…got pushed around a lot last week.
by Run Up The Score on Sep 5, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crawford
I think they wanted to give him some “game speed” reps. Whether or not CC is “game speed” remains to be seen. Okoli is ready to go. He was receiving the same kind of practice praise as Still was.
by psuphiman80 on Sep 5, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More info from
Koroma’s high school coach on the daily collegian. sorry don’t know how to link it.
by kmpsu on Sep 5, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here it is
Koroma’s high school football coach, Bob Guyer, said he talked with Koroma over the phone Wednesday night, and Koroma assured him he was not involved. Guyer also said Koroma told him he took a drug test, but the results were not known as of press time.
“He’s anxious for the blood test to come back. Hopefully that will, of course, demonstrate there was never any involvement there,” he said. "My understanding is he was at a class and he was with his girlfriend that night.
“Abe indicated to me he was hoping that once the truth was determined and investigation done, it would be obvious there wasn’t any sort of criminal offense on his part.”
I guess it kind of bugs me that Koroma is “anxious” for the results to come back and “hopefully” that will demonstrate he wasn’t involved. Why isn’t he just confident the results will exonerate him?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Sep 5, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
blood test
OK I thought it would be a piss test. I guess there is really no way to run to GNC for anything like that. I wander if something came back on the drug tests and that is why Wallace gets to play. Lets hope my theory is wrong but who knows at this point.
by jetskijoe on Sep 5, 2008 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was waiting for someone to link to this
I think we all need to calm down. The program isn’t going to hell in a handbasket if there was a party at a player house and someone brought weed to it.
The collegian says that no paraphenalia was found at the house, which is huge, and seems to indicate that these guys aren’t huge potheads. If all of the blood tests come back negative, then what’s the big story?
It was stupid for the players to have a party where something like this could happen—and for them not to throw out the guy who was smoking—but not the worst thing in the world. Now, if the tests come back positive, you’ve got to dismiss them…
by spakajewia on Sep 5, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It has been...
my experience as a black male, that for whatever reason, other young black males who smoke do it with blunts(phillys, dutch masters) so that would explain the no paraphenalia thing.
And this whole incident is just a bad decision until its proven that they were in the wrong. I can’t control what someone brings in my house if I can’t see it, right? And if two of them weren’t even there, they very well couldn’t have told whoever to stop even if they were against it. As for whoever was there and still let it happen, like I said, bad decision.
I was out in the trenches, which enables me to paint such a powerful picture, like Apocalypse Now.-Cormega
by OMEGAMAN on Sep 5, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope something else doesn't show up in those
blood tests. Like HGH or something way out there like a heightened estrogen level.
by rahpsu92 on Sep 5, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quarless
Ok, seriously, what is Quarless problem? He could have been the next Tony Gonzalez but he’d rather drink and party constantly instead of play football. It was bad enough when he was getting himself in trouble, but now that he’s bringing down his teamates, I’ve had enough of him. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for these guys to stay out of trouble. I can kind of understand during the offseason, but DURING THE SEASON!?!?! PUT DOWN THE BLUNT FOR 4 MONTHS!!!!! Let’s see, I could keep myself out of trouble, play really well and earn myself a 2 round draft pick and get millions of dollars in the NFL…….. Naaaaaahhhh, I love weed and beer waayyy toooo much.
IDIOT.
by Hoptafence on Sep 5, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IF all the Blood Tests Come back negative.....
I hope people will put this to rest quickly and THAT THE TEST RESULTS WILL BE MADE KNOWN ON ESPN (who is always quick to show that PSU is the inferno known as hell)! Having a party was a bad decision on a big game week so the suspension is still warranted…….but if the tests are negative, I hope all of the players only get a one game suspension. Hell to me if Koroma and Evans weren’t even at the party and negative test results come before Saturday THEY SHOULD PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again, let’s give these kids the benefit of the doubt until the test results are known!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
by pic15 on Sep 5, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is what I don't understand
So Koroma and Evans were not at the party but Quarless and Wallace were. How is that 2 that were not at the party are not playing but 1 that was is? I guess JoePa figured we needed more help in the secondary? This just leaves me with a lot of questions.
by jetskijoe on Sep 6, 2008 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Joe
has more information than we do. Do we know where the stuff was found? Maybe Evans and Koroma were the ones that live their primarily or it was there friends that were over that had the hooch. We don’t have all the facts and I seriously doubt Joe would hold out a player for a certain game.
by psuphiman80 on Sep 6, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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