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I remain baffled by what happened at Boston College over the past two weeks.  I think I understand the point, that BC and their AD demand loyalty, but have they ever read the sports section of a newspaper? 

Besides the inter-school shuffle, when you hire a talented coach to lead your college football team, inquiries from professional teams kind of come with the territory.  If they didn't come, you probably don't have a great coach.  Or he's 82.

So when MGoBlog tore down a ridiculous argument from one of CBS Sportsline's finest, a comment after the post stuck with me:

What BC did sounds like good business to older folk, but it's this kind of thinking that is dooming those peoples' businesses.

So while BC is busy turning themselves into the GM of football programs, other schools are realizing that lifetime contracts, and more specifically, lifetime commitments, are going to be a very rare thing these days.

This all brings us back to Larry Johnson Sr, whose fate we will likely find out this week.  Paterno's staff has been incredibly resistant to shuffling, so I can understand the somewhat dramatic tone people have used to talk about this potential loss.  The truth is it's probably all for the better good.

Star-divide

In fact, the one thing that does worry me about the eventual Next Penn State Football Coach is the possibility that they will have zero exposure to the outside.  It's important.  Looking at some of the more successful active coaches in NCAA football, one thing becomes apparent.

Team Coach Experience
USC Pete Carroll Worked at 5 different colleges and 5 pro teams, held three HC positions and worked as OC and DC in college.
Florida
Urban Meyer Worked at 7 different colleges in 7 different "leagues", worked as a HC at 3 different schools.
Ohio State Jim Tressel Worked two HC jobs in two different divisions.
Oklahoma Bob Stoops Worked for three different schools, worked or played in three BCS conferences.
Alabama Nick Saban Worked for 10 different colleges and 3 pro teams, has been a HC at four different places, both pro and college.

Interesting, right?  Tressel has worked just two places and is probably the only person you could legitimately call a "company man".   Stoops is also lightly traveled (relatively) but has seen quite a lot of different kinds of football.

The other three guys are true journey men, picking up contacts, experience and system exposure at a combined 30 different places.  It's probably no coincidence that they've become successful both in their conferences and nationally against teams they don't often play against.  (This is at least another theory as to why Tressel seems so inept against non-Big Ten teams.)

So if the Post-Paterno Age is going to start with an in-house bump up, which I'm not necessarily against, I think filling out the staff with experienced people is important.  It's happening in the real world, with companies like Google and P&G swapping employees because of the potential benefit; these workers will enter into a new network and be able to apply business processes that their new employer isn't aware of.  It all leads to progress and improvement.  There is no reason why this concept shouldn't be applied to football.

Coaches who move around learn new skills and become better at what they do, and teams that hire more experienced people will probably win more often. It's really that simple. There is definitely something to be said for loyalty, it promotes unity and might help recruiting, but it also means your program is standing still while others are adapting to the ever changing environment.

LJSR may go, but if this actually happens the real concern is not his loss but rather his replacement.  It's a rare chance to bring fresh air into the Lasch Building; I'm under the impression the smart move would be to take advantage.

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The BC decision was right

but only limited to that situation. That guy is not going to get the Jets job, it the interview was a lark, basically his way of telling everyone in the country, “hey, I’m a good coach and I’m looking to trade up”. What he was inviting is the Bobby Petrino style “will he stay or will he go drama” until, inevitably, he left. I can see nipping that in the bud before it gets started.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jan 14, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shame on BC

If you want loyalty in your coaches, put a huge buyout clause in their contract. If a coach wants to look around, make it expensive. He’ll think twice about leaving if it means having to pay $4 million. Firing employees is not the way to build loyalty in your coaches.

by BSD on Jan 14, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What I don't get

is that I’ve read there was nothing in his contract about looking around.

Seems foolish to me…

BSD

by Kevin HD on Jan 14, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like an overblown way to make a point

I don’t exactly read BC blogs, anyone know how the fan base felt about it?

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Jan 14, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From what I've read

most are as confused as I am and wish Jagodzinski well. They were pretty lucky to have a replacement in hand, a guy who didn’t seem bothered by this at all (with Penn State ties, by the way). So there currently isn’t a lot of fallout.

The problem is if the new guy (DiFilippo) doesn’t work out; they may have to go outside the program and find someone who is okay with how Jagodzinski was treated.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Jan 14, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is because

They found out he had been sending out feelers to for all kinds of NFL jobs, not just the Jets job.

JoePa in '09

by JGuiher on Jan 14, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for fresh blood

But maybe fresh blood in different areas? Like on the offensive side of the ball?

But I’m with you on hiring guys with experince outside of Penn State. Wasn’t Kermitt Buggs essentially a promotion from elsewhere within the program?

by PSU Mudder on Jan 14, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Buggs

He was a graduate assistant. Not sure where he came from before then.

by BSD on Jan 14, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

an academic support guy or something like that. LJSr replacement will be the equipment guy or something.

JoePa in '09

by JGuiher on Jan 14, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or some silly high school coach

from Maryland that nobody ever heard of. He’ll probably have a couple of snotty kids too.

Larry Johnson Sr. is irreplaceable. IRREPLACEABLE!

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jan 14, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no one

is irreplaceable. I bet the Patriots thought they were screwed when Bledsoe went down and they had to play a 7th round stiff out of Michigan (turned out pretty well for them) or when Trent Green went down in 1999 and they had to go with a box boy arena football league player no one ever heard of (worked out again).

Penn State will find someone. Someone who will be a great coach and do well with recruits. Maybe this coach will also spawn one of the best RBs we had in PSU history as well. We could always bring back Matt Millen…

PSU Softball

by QBsneak12 on Jan 14, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Everyone is replaceable. The question is, will the replacement be as good as the orginal. But regardless of who they plug in, Penn State will still manage to put eleven guys on the field next year and compete.

Who knows. Maybe Joe looks at this as a chance to do a major restructuring of the coaching staff and hires a special teams coach instead of a DL coach. Let Vandy coach the DLine, Bradley the LB’s, Buggs the DB’s.

by BSD on Jan 14, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

or maybe the administration can use this as an excuse

to bring in an “outside guy” into the program, and then when it comes time to naming a new head coach, then everyone can be happy.

Think Golden or Schiano want to be DL coach at PSU? :-p

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 14, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

But I bet Bill Cowher would!

by BSD on Jan 14, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Post

I agree with basically everything you said. It’s also kind of exciting to see what will happen, we are exploring the nearly unknown, at least for us PSU fans under the age of 120.

by Roland86 on Jan 14, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's not just the coaches either

So many people that are involved in everything that is Penn State football know nothing else. I don’t think they need to wipe the slate clean, but there are some silly things that are held on to at Penn State just because that’s how it’s always been done.

by speedomike on Jan 14, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

…I “always” thought that’s part of the whole…“We Are..!”

" ...the pool or the pond; the pond is good for you..."

by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 14, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A little fresh air would be nice.
It would be nice to bring in a guy who has had to regularly defend against a big-time pass offense so we know what to do when we actually play one.

by NJ lion on Jan 14, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How about a coach....

With some SEC ties?? We lose a great Md. recruitor but pick up a guy from the south that has some southern high school connections. Maybe from recruiting hotbeds like Fl., Ga., Tx.! I know its a stretch, but i mean maybe it could happen?? Not saying losing LJSR won’t hurt, but it could be a blessing in disguise in the long run.

by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Jan 14, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good Idea

I really think we’ll be ok when it comes to recruiting in Maryland. We’re Penn State. We’re still the most dominant team in the northeast. The Penn State brand name still sells itself. We may not dominate like we have been, but we should be able to pluck two or three of Maryland’s best recruits every year.

But if we could supplement that with a pipeline to Florida, California, Ohio or Texas, look out!

by BSD on Jan 14, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ki Jana, anyone?

I don’t know if he’d be any good at it, but I could see him coming on as Special Teams coach under the plan outlined by Mike above. I understand that he’s got a pretty decent presence in Florida already…

There is a tractor in the parking lot, West Virginia license EIEIO. Your lights are on.

by leeharvey418 on Jan 15, 2009 7:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What's KJ's Florida Connection?

He grew-up near tOSU / Columbus…went from PSU to the Bengals, injured / retired…

I’m guessing he retired in the Florida area?

" ...the pool or the pond; the pond is good for you..."

by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 15, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right

He retired to Florida and lives next door to O.J. McDuffie. (True story)

by BSD on Jan 15, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's Going to Recruit?

JayPa? JoePa?

The Lion with his keg on wheels?

The sororities?

Two star recruits get you two wins per season.

by CDRS on Jan 15, 2009 8:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Big Red the head of recruiting now anyway?

I thought McQueary had the official recruiting director title, could be wrong though. We’ll still have guys to recruit. They might have to rethink the way they go about some things, shuffle some guys around to different places or whatever, but I think they still have plenty of capable recruiters despite losing one of the best.

Sending the occasional sorority girl out to recruit couldn’t hurt either…I like your style.

by jimbo2psu on Jan 15, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not all bad

Vandy, Bradley, Anderson, Buggs, and McQueary make up a good recruiting team. Oh yeah, and JayPa I guess.

by BSD on Jan 15, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems that . ..

Whenever the Nittany Lions get a four or five star recruit, Larry Johnson’s name is attached to it.

Who’s going to make up for what we’re losing here?

by CDRS on Jan 15, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well

It seems like every time somebody gets arrested for fighting while “party walking” LJ Sr’s name is attached to it too.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jan 15, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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