Change We Can Believe In?

Mark Wogenrich of the Allentown Morning Call writes that all hope is not lost for the 2009 non-conference schedule:

The schedule might be tiring, but it's not necessarily grueling. The non-conference opponents are unspectacular (Akron, Syracuse, Temple, Eastern Illinois), and the Big Ten road trips are bearable (at Illinois, Michigan, Northwestern, Michigan State).

The two toughest conference games are at home (Sept. 26 against Iowa and Nov. 7 against Ohio State), meaning a 10- or 11-win season is entirely possible. But Penn State should (and is) begin working with ESPN to upgrade the Oct. 10 date by swapping Eastern Illinois for an opponent with more BCS cache. An ACC team is a possibility.

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Of course, I wish it was a conference game.

But I’m probably the only PSU fan who would rather be in the ACC than the Big Ten.

--
Mr. Bob Dobalina

by Run Up The Score on Jan 23, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Just you and me

I think you’re the only person who responded positively to my thread last week about PSU being in the ACC.

by RNF18 on Jan 23, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think you're right.

I say we club everyone else over the head with our obviously superior opinion.

--
Mr. Bob Dobalina

by Run Up The Score on Jan 23, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ow, my head hurts

pax et amor

by jtothep on Jan 23, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ohhh glory glory

I do not want to experience that Eastern Illinois game.

"I'm driven by greatness" - Derrick Williams

by HookMania on Jan 23, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Please

Some divine power needs to make this happen. Getting a terrible 1-AA team off the schedule does wonders for us when people are checking out PSU for polls and stuff. Plus it would be a good test for a PSU to see another team that’s good that they’re not used to.

Do you think they’d try to get a home and home or some kind of deal done, or would this be another Oregon State?

by psuphiman80 on Jan 23, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I wonder which ACC team...

I hope it is Clemson! god that would kick ass for me…even georgia tech would be great!

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Jan 23, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I would love to see clemson

One of my best friends from high school goes there now (we lived outside of Philly so god only knows why he went to Clemson), and I’d love to rub this in his face.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jan 23, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe because the chicks there are smoooooooooooking hot...

It is a cool place to go see a football game at….It is ALOT like PSU…campus in the middle of nowhere…cow fields around…engineering and agriculture are big majors at the school, and people live and die by the football team….If you ever get the chance to go to a game there I reccomend that you do so..it is a great time, and great place…

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Jan 23, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Please let this happen

Playing Directional Illinois can do nothing but harm our profile. At least we might potentially get a modicum of respect or credit from playing an ACC team. Virginia Tech, anyone? I’d be in favor of possibly making VA Tech a semi-regular opponent, given their geographical proximity and that they’re generally pretty competitive.

Let's Go State!

by Gopher Broke on Jan 23, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

THANK GOD

"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled"- Hunter S. Thompson

by phishead_psu on Jan 23, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I SHALL RESEARCH THIS AND GIVE SOME GUESSES

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Jan 23, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This must happen

Where’s that guy who was fasting and got Larry Johnson to stay at Penn State?
We need you.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jan 23, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm here brother

Unfortunately I’m enjoying a nice chicken sandwich right now! :-)

by RNF18 on Jan 23, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

A chicken COSMO sandwich??

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jan 23, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So we're replacing Eastern Illinois with Duke?!? Awesome.

by Screen Name 20 on Jan 23, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

As funny as that sounds

Duke at least won a few games last season and is not a 1-AA program. I’d take it over Eastern ILL

by psuphiman80 on Jan 23, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Cutcliffe is the coach too...

Duke is gaining some cred…Cutcliffe was Payton Mannings QB coach at Tenn…I believe…people aren’t sleeping on Duke anymore in the ACC that is for sure…

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Jan 23, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you

My first quote was obviously loaded with sarcasm but I agree with you somewhat. Yes, Duke is a step up over Eastern Illinois, but I’d still be disappointed…less so than if we keep Eastern Illinois, but disappointed nonetheless.

by Screen Name 20 on Jan 23, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is

the best page I found with 2009 ACC football scedules, but all the dates are not filled in. For example, if you click on the big ten link every team has dates next to all their games.

http://www.mybearterritory.com/cal_bears_football_files/2009_Schedule_ACC.htm

by whiteoutonly on Jan 23, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Going off of this link

We’re looking at Duke, Wake, or NC State. Every other team has 7 home-5 away games already lined-up, with the OOC away game already locked into a date. I find it hard to believe that these teams would drop an away game against a FBS with a date already named (i.e. they’ve already started giving out tickets).

Still, I won’t complain with anyone in that collection. Duke is slightly on the way up, and NC State and Wake have been at least solid for the past few years. And hell – anything is an upgrade over Eastern ~~Motors~~ Illinois.

by IcersGuy on Jan 23, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Your cupcake is your credit.

--
Mr. Bob Dobalina

by Run Up The Score on Jan 23, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Miami would be great

Those were some good games back in the day.

We just needed a couple players, a couple people to buy in to the fact and we were able to do it. --A.Q. Shipley

by psu on Jan 23, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Just like that awesome one in 2001… Not quite as fun as the Thompson to Fields game.

by The Mess on Jan 23, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Alright!!!

The Blue Devils are totally going down!

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries

by BSD on Jan 23, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

LOL

My thoughts exactly. Color me pessimistic.

"They haven't played us yet."

by ReadingRambler on Jan 23, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

At Oregon State would be nice

But that’s not happening.

"They haven't played us yet."

by ReadingRambler on Jan 23, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Acc team

It will probably be an old foe, like UMD.

I agree, the ACC move would be better for PSU. Dominate the east coast, we have not done great recruiting west of PA.

by SweepTheLeg on Jan 23, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Plus it will make for an easy trip for half the families on our team

by SweepTheLeg on Jan 23, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maryland is my bet, too

Despite my comment above. :)

"They haven't played us yet."

by ReadingRambler on Jan 23, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Used to be a common opponent

It’d be cool to see Maryland back on the schedule since we used to play them for many years, even though, like Syracuse, they blow.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jan 23, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

MD isn't so bad

They have a winning record and they won their bowl game. Not a great team but definitely a step up from Syracuse!

by lmrlion on Jan 23, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

UMD / VT ...

for the easy travel…add to the recruting edge…and “up” our Strength of Schedule

Clemson / GT / USC to expand the recruting / SOS – and so Carolinaeasy can wear the Blue & White in the stands…instead of some other colors!

" ...the pool or the pond; the pond is good for you..."

by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 23, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the shout out!

I am having a hard time down here finding a “second” team to get all nutzy about…I get season tickets to Carolina, I go to Clemson games, and I really enjoy watching Florida’s offense and travel to a few games there a year…but none can compare to my Lions…I am counting down the days until PSU at Alabama!

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Jan 23, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah man...

I feel for ya…I’m also in ACC/SEC land (Charlotte); pretty much keep my opinion of those conferences out of conversations here. I just “nod” alot!
Lots of PSU fans/alum here though…

" ...the pool or the pond; the pond is good for you..."

by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 23, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah the mall in Mooresville

is loaded with PSU stuff…I was shocked when I went up there…

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Jan 23, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good news/bad news

I think the move is essential, but I have a wedding that weekend that I have to go to. Can’t they trade one of the earlier crappy games?

by InScoresOfOtherGames on Jan 23, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Actually

There was talk a few months ago about PSU trying to work out a deal with UNC. I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up playing the Tar Heels which I kind of like. Butch Davis has them going places. It’s one of those wins that people will say, “Yeah so what” when it happens, but by the end of the year it will be an impressive win. Kind of like Oregon State was.

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries

by BSD on Jan 23, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Butch Davis

from meeting him at coaches clinics, and whatnot…is a cool guy to meet and a great speaker…I see why that program is turning around…I wouldn’t mind that matchup it would be interesting…

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on Jan 23, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Should know within two weeks

The final ACC schedule is due out “early February” according to this post on the ACC website.

It probably won’t be Virginia – they are on our schedule in 2012.

My vote would be for Virginia Tech, Maryland, or Miami but I’d take any BCS team over Eastern Illinois.

by JMFlyer1454 on Jan 23, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and hey RUTS

Don’t think I didn’t notice you worked an Obama slogan into the title.

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries

by BSD on Jan 23, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

But this actually IS change we can believe in!

--
Mr. Bob Dobalina

by Run Up The Score on Jan 23, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

When I read the title of this thread

I knew before I even got to the post that this conversation was coming.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Jan 23, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hope it's Clemson...

…revenge for the whole paw debacle!

I would expect to see Boston College or Miami.

Kevin

by kevinmc on Jan 23, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Clemson was the reason for our genetically-engineered 3 or 5 toed lion’s paw.
Sheesh..

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jan 23, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but now we OWNS the 5 paw.

So we can bully some poor school into changing to the six toed version.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Jan 23, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Shame on you

You all must hate America.

Seriously, I want Virginia Tech (a big name who can challenge but not probably not defeat us) or Maryland (nothing says “old school bumbling opponents” like having Syracuse, Temple, and Maryland come into Beaver Stadium).

by Aaron PSU on Jan 23, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

my vote goes for..

and this is not having looked at the schedules, in order VT, BC, UMD

For the glory

by lionalum05 on Jan 23, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think VT already has its hands full.

Sept. 5 vs. Alabama Atlanta, Ga.
Sept. 12 Marshall Blacksburg, Va.
Sept. 19 Nebraska Blacksburg, Va.
Sept. 26 at East Carolina Greenville, N.C.

--
Mr. Bob Dobalina

by Run Up The Score on Jan 23, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Now that I think abou it, we have more ACC tradition then Big10

UMD, UVA, Miami, BC…

by SweepTheLeg on Jan 23, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The old ACC

What teams were in the ACC when we joined the Big10? I know that a bunch of teams joined the ACC since the early 90s. I’m not sure if the old ACC would have been a good a place to be in then as it is now. Maybe it wasn’t too bad, I just can’t remember.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jan 23, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ACC

FSU joined the ACC after we had committed to the Big Ten, so at the time of our decision the ACC consisted os: Maryland, Virginia, UNC, Duke, Wake Forest, NC State, Clemson and Georgia Tech. Not exactly a football powerhouse conference. The only school in that group with which we had much tradition is Maryland.

by Laaaaazzz on Jan 26, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

This just confirms my opinion that, since a new bigger and better Big East wasn’t going to happen as Joe wanted, we were better off at the time going to the Big10.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Jan 26, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So I guess I'll be the one who mentions Florida St.

Unless I missed it above, but I didn’t catch anyone wanting to see the Seminoles.

by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 23, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

That would be sweet

And since ESPN is putting this together I’m sure they would kill for that story line of Paterno vs. Bowden.

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries

by BSD on Jan 23, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This site is useful in looking at 2009 schedules

http://cfbpalace.net/2009schedules.html

As someone above said, the ACC hasn’t slotted in their league games yet, but most OOC’s are listed with date, as well as any OOC games needed.

pinkertonpark.com - you owe yerself a laugh.

by rahpsu92 on Jan 23, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Here's the results of my review...

BC: Needs 1 OOC has 10/10/09 open
Clemson: Needs 1 OOC has 10/10/09 open
Duke Needs 1 OOC has 10/10/09 open
FSU Needs 1 OOC has 10/10/09 open
GT Schedule Full
UMD Schedule Full
Miami Schedule Full
UNC Needs 1 OOC has 10/10/09 open
NCst Needs 2 OOC has 10/10/09 open
UVA Needs 1 OOC has 10/10/09 open
VT Schedule Full
Wake Schedule Full

pinkertonpark.com - you owe yerself a laugh.

by rahpsu92 on Jan 23, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The problem is though

FSU already has Maine, BYU, South Florida, and Florida on the schedule. They would have to drop one of those and three of them are already quality opponents. Maine would be the most likely to go, but I don’t see FSU doing that. They need some easy wins to get Bowl eligible.

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries

by BSD on Jan 23, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see FSU adding us on top of

BYU and Florida.

Also, Miami plays Oklahoma – can’t see adding PSU.

pinkertonpark.com - you owe yerself a laugh.

by rahpsu92 on Jan 23, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They key is....

that it would be one game at Beaver Stadium with no return trip, that has Florida State, Virginia Tech and Miami out right away.

Based on what I read above, I think we’re looking at Wake Forest

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jan 23, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

That's my inclination, as well.

Or UNC.

--
Mr. Bob Dobalina

by Run Up The Score on Jan 23, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I think it’s Wake Forest or UNC from the ACC. But I’m hearing they are also talking about some non-ACC schools too.

Mike
Black Shoe Diaries

by BSD on Jan 23, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think NC State

would be a good possibilty. I’m all in on the Wolfpack.

pinkertonpark.com - you owe yerself a laugh.

by rahpsu92 on Jan 23, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

NC State

NC State would be pretty close to a screw you on a one and done too. They had a home and home with Ohio State, I don’t know that they would go for it with Penn State. Something tells me that UNC finds it’s way on to the football schedule with a home and home of their own sooner or later too.

"I honestly think the "Spread HD" is going to work pretty well, and we’ll be just fine this year". - 8-27-2008

by jesse. on Jan 23, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

UNC was pretty good this year, and fun to watch

That would beat the stuffin out of directional Illinois. And we could hang a banner in the Jordan Center with something like PSU win over UNC 2009, not stating that it was a football game.

We just needed a couple players, a couple people to buy in to the fact and we were able to do it. --A.Q. Shipley

by psu on Jan 23, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs