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Posted on behalf of resident BSD x's and o's expert, carolinaeasy...

The Still Life is back this week for another helping of strategic insight, despite my best efforts to quit football all together this week. I was 0-4 as a football person/coach this week. My high school team, college team, pro team, and my fantasy team all took a fat L this weekend. In three of the four cases it was one culprit: the offensive line. Yep that age old adage of you're only as good as your line came to the forefront this week in Happy Valley as the Lions line stunk up the joint. In today's post I will examine a play that really illustrates the struggles of the line the past several weeks and also raises some questions about the running backs as well.

 

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The play in focus today is Evan Royster's -1 yard carry out of his end zone in the first half of the Iowa game. This was a play in which the Lions narrowly averted a safety (a safety which we all know came seconds later). This was actually a very good play call given the situation, but as we will soon see, the lack of execution on the play lead to this disaster.

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Pre-Snap Read: Penn State lines up in an I formation with the TE to the right. Iowa is lined up in a 4-3 with the linebackers shifted over to the tight end (see circled). They are in a pretty vanilla defense right now. The interior linemen are in a "31 technique" which means outside shade on a guard and inside shade on a guard. The ends are playing outside shoulder of the tackles or "5 technique". The defensive end away from the tight end has contain (meaning he cannot let anyone run outside of him on his side, if this happens it is usually a big gain). The circled linebacker has contain on the opposite side. In many ways this is a 5-2 formation with 4-3 personnel.

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Snap of the football: Look at the steps taken by the offense. Everyone is moving to their right. The offensive linemen are all taking angle steps to their right. This is clearly a zone run play based on what the offensive line is doing. In a zone run you want your offensive line to overtake the defensive man's play side half of his body and get him turned towards the backside. The only exception to this is when a linebacker over runs a play then you wall him off and hit the cutback lane for a big run. In this particular play we would want to see the offensive line turn the defense to the left and create a seam for the running back to run. One person I want you to take note of is number 50 DeOn'tae Pannell; his right foot is moving backwards and his shoulders are opening up ever so slightly. This will be a major factor in the development of this play.

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Next Steps: Here we can see the defense react to the offense. At this point they are all reading run and moving towards their left. Everything is looking pretty good for the Lions here. Royster has three possible reads at this point; between the center and guard, off tackle, or outside the tight end. The two blocks he needs to read are in the yellow boxes. If Wisniewski, number 61, gets his man turned to the offense's left this will most likely be a dive up the middle. If he cannot make this block it bounces outside to one of the other reads. Once again take a look at Pannell. Is he overtaking his man and turning him to the left? 

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Here we can a seam developing: Eliades, number 77 has walled off an over pursuing linebacker, Pannell has created a wall as well by not overtaking his defensive end. Johnnie Troutman has blocked the backside linebacker as well. The one block that has not been made is by our best returning lineman Stefen Wisniewski number 61. Look at the head of the defensive lineman it is in the hole and that alone scares Royster away from the developing hole and forces him to bounce outside.

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Now we can see why Royster did not run it up the middle even though most of the hole is still developed there even this late. At this point his next read is off tackle. Unfortunately Pannell is not getting the job done here and there is a ton of the Iowa defensive end in the hole. Pannell needs to continue to fight to get his right hips around the DE's body. When he does not,  Royster's only choice is to out run him to the edge.

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Now Pannell is completely lost his defensive end, who is also about to tackle Royster for a safety. Take another look at where Wisniewski has ended up with his man.

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No real analysis here just a tackle taking place here while Pannell watches. I wonder if he yelled "look out!". That would have been the polite thing to do. 

 

 

 

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Finally we have the tackle. The Lions were VERY fortunate not to get a safety here on this play. 

My Take: This play could have gotten positive yardage if Royster would have turned it up in the seam we see in the early pictures. Yes Wisniewski does not get a great block, but it would have been two to three yards at the minimum and know what we do now about the ensuing plays that could have been all the difference. Instead he looks spooked when he sees a piece of the defensive tackle and bounces it outside where Pannell is not getting the job done. I feel based on looking at the play in these shots that Royster is more to blame for this failure than the offensive line. Was this an A effort from the line? Absolutely not, but it was good enough for 4 yards if the back would hit the hole. The line took a ton of heat this week. But looking at this play I wonder how much of it was the backs not hitting the holes and taking what they could get at three to four yards a clip and looking for the big run instead and just not being effective. Maybe that was why we saw Greene come in midway and run somewhat effectively for a few plays.

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Awesome once...

again. Not having an X’s and O’s background, this is really informative. Question, does the defensive end on the left side of the offense maintain contain? Looks as if a fake and bootleg would have gotten positive yardage, but pictures can lie.

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by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 1, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Not sure

But just from looking, I think the end didn’t overpursue the Royster handoff enough for a bootleg to have worked. I think he would’ve had time to cut the angle and prevent Clark from getting around him, but I’m just a layman.

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by 06Lion on Oct 1, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think going opposite of flow is a good idea here.

The defense reacted to the flow to their left (offense’s right). Sending Royster left against flow is taking a chance that the defense will overrun the play and if they don’t, that would likely result in a loss of yardage (safety). This type of misdirection thing is hardly ever done that close to your own goalline and rightfully so, because there’s too much of a risk of the safety to justify the reward of big yardage against the flow of the play. If PSU coaches noticed a tendency up in the booth of the defense to not control their gaps or contain the back side of a play then yeah, probably a good idea. Otherwise asking for trouble.

by jimbo2psu on Oct 1, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice breakdown

I think BTN’s Breakdown mistakenly used footage of this play and said it was the one that resulted in the safety.

by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 1, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fantastic job

It’s amazing that all of this action and decision-making happens in just a few seconds.
Thanks for this breakdown for all of us non Xs and Os people.

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by NJ lion on Oct 1, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well done

Agree with your comment on Green. Although he’s usually hitting the lanes too fast before making a good read, he did particularly well on the few carries he had Saturday.

by Screen Name 20 on Oct 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He almost has the mentality of a goalline back.

Doesn’t matter if you hit the best spot, just do something quick.

by jimbo2psu on Oct 1, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what she said

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 1, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

WOW

That could be the BEST TWSS ever. And I’ve heard some doozies (doosies? deusies?).

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AWESOME JOB

Seriously, this kind of content is so friggin interesting.

From your analysis it seems that if we had a Tony Hunt type back running this play we’d have seen 4-6 yards at least out of this. With a line this shoddy you’d like to have a back that likes to make contact with defenders, that’s something Royster almost never does.

I know it wasn’t his assignment, but it would have helped if the FB blocked someone at the line there instead of going out into the secondary.

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by millzners on Oct 1, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You beat me to it...

Was just about to post something about the FB.

If the FB hits the hole (the red arrow), I think the Iowa defense collapses on him expecting Royster to follow him. If the line at least keeps their blocks, it’s still a 2-3 yard gain if Royster follows. If the Iowa defense collapses on the FB and Royster can bounce it outside, this might be more than a 2-3 yard gain.

Great job, carolinaeasy!

by dmoney350z on Oct 1, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know nothing about the design of a play, but my guess is that the FB followed his assignment and had Royster got past the first level of the defense, we’d have seen a huge gain b/c of the FB.

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by millzners on Oct 1, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

that is my read on the play.

by Screen Name 20 on Oct 1, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

We ran this stretch play against Syracuse and it failed miserably then too. I was in the stands so I couldn’t tell you what happened, but it seems to me we had better get it right or quit calling it.

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by millzners on Oct 1, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another observation

Looking at Quarless in the last picture, it looks like he demolished the outside linebacker pushing him back five yards. Suhey ran to the second level without touching anyone.

by BSD on Oct 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Quarless

He is finally coming around this year. He looks to be fighting on every play. I wander if he is totally out of the doghouse yet?

by jetskijoe on Oct 1, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could this mean our offense starts to look like the cowboys?

somewhat unproven WR’s (minus a roy williams type), a couple good backs, a QB who gets shaken too easily, and a dependable TE (that is if they let Quarless be as good as i think he can be). idk if they have offensive line problems though…

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Oct 2, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame EIU!

(Tony Romo played college ball there).

Oh wait, I guess it is too early to start EIU hate week.
One game at a time.

by confirmy on Oct 2, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suhey

it looks like he was going to the 2nd level to take on the safety, who he clearly missed as you see in the last 2 pictures.

by Screen Name 20 on Oct 1, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suhey's job, I think,

is to clean out the first free man he sees coming through the hole, and not necessarily to help a down lineman finish off a block. If he comes across someone who’s already beat his man and is coming into the hole then yeah, clear him out. This didn’t seem to be the case, so I’d say Suhey did alright here.

by jimbo2psu on Oct 1, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not expert

But it seems to me if Suhey just pokes that DE in the shoulder to slow him down it might help Pannell get him turned around. I guess this is the kind of stuff you get when a group has worked together for a long time. It’s entirely possible I’m an idiot though.

by BSD on Oct 1, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you

That makes sense that he should chip in there, similar to a chip block you see tight ends using. Those calls are primarily used to give the tackle a second in order to lock onto their block, where as I am assuming in this case that he most likely has an assignment, like jimbo mentioned, to take the open man in that lane or someone from the next level. If Suhey uses a slight instant to chip the DE, the safety (who his missed anyway), is right there to make the tackle.

by Screen Name 20 on Oct 1, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably too late in this thread...

…but maybe carolinaeasy is continuing to check his post to keep us football-outsiders educated. My take on Quarless/Suhey is a little different:

It looks to me like Quarless got a good-enough block on the OLB (5th lineman) to eliminate him, and then he released since Royster should already have been past the line at that point. I think in the last picture we see Quarless pancaking a DB, which would probably be his second good block on the play. The Hawkeye watching Royster being tackled seems to be the OLB, and given his position in the last frame, he was likely completely out of the play. I see no reason to accuse Suhey of a missed assignment, but I’m curious about carolinaeasy’s take…

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by NittanyTide on Oct 2, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so.

The Iowa guy standing to the right of the tackle on the last frame looks like the safety to me. I wish this was HD, but the number looks the same as the safety in the earlier pictures before he goes out of frame. It looks like Suhey is reaching for him in the previous frame.

by BSD on Oct 2, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have to go back and review this from the tape

The pictures just don’t give you a clear look at the play. But it appears as if Quarless gets the OLB off the line of scrimmage either by block, or influence. Suhey looks like he needs to attack upfield a bit more, but once again I hesitate to criticize without knowing his assignment, or at least seeing something I know he did wrong.

Bottom line is Royster ran to his third option, and missed his read to hit the first option.

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by carolinaeasy on Oct 2, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that a function of Royster...

not having faith in his line? He seems to be missing reads a lot this season, but don’t know if it is his fault or poor line play.

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by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 2, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Superb Post.

Keep ’em coming.

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by BSmith717 on Oct 1, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

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by ReadingRambler on Oct 1, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy this feature

How is Pannell or Wiz going to turn their men to the left when the play starts with them lined up off the right shoulder? Considering our line trouble prior to this play that seems like an improbable, if not impossible assignment. Pannell may not be great but once the play starts to the right and his man already on his outside, slants to the right he has no chance of turning him. Looks like running behind Eliades for a short gain was the only hole that could be expected with this alignment.

Should have been throwing on first down anyway. Two plays designed for short yardage always bring up 3rd and long anyway with one chance to convert.

by jabama on Oct 1, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well teams that run the zone work on these steps

A lot of teams call them overtake steps. Then you need to work your hips and hands to steer the man back to the left. This is not an impossible block, and really is something I am sure they work on every single day. I know at Florida they work on that block as one of the first parts of individual practice time each day, and I am sure Dick Anderson does as well.

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by carolinaeasy on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome write-up...

I hope BSD makes you a regular contributor because I really enjoy the X and O’s of the game. I used to just pay attention to the backfield, my recently and thanks to ESPN axis and such, I’ve been noticing the intricacies of good offensive line plays: Guard pulls, developing screens, etc.

While there was definitely some general offensive failure on this series, I would have much rather that we played Ferentz game and just punted it away after running into the three times. Why pass from that position? Rain + bad field position + good defensive line + 10 pt lead = keep it conservative.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 1, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We kept it conservative

and still gave up a safety and nearly a TD. If you’re just going to run 3 token plays up the middle you my as well punt on first down to avoid a mistake. How stupid would that look? Gee we have a senior QB, can’t he throw the ball away if needed. Throwing was the only way to get out of there against a defense sold out to the run.

by jabama on Oct 1, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree but...

throwing out of your own end zone in nasty field position with a suspect offensive line? I don’t know if I trust any QB to do that.

They were selling out to the run which meant the linebackers were probably cheating. In theory that would open up the flat for a short play or quick slant so I don’t know why we didn’t see any of that.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 1, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOW BOUT THE PLAY CALL!!!

You dont run an Off tackle, or what looks to me like a sweep from the 2 yard line!!! Where the hell is the FB going??? They should have ran an iso and have the FB run right between the guard and tackle to light up one of those LB’s. When the defense is playing contain on both sides, you have to “ADJUST” and run the ball up the middle.

Stupid play calling if you ask, me but unfortunately not surprising.

by TITCUS on Oct 1, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay...
This was actually a very good play call given the situation, but as we will soon see, the lack of execution on the play lead to this disaster.

I’ll trust the expert on this one.

by STU Boy on Oct 1, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True . . . Im not and "expert."

But this seems like a very risky play that only works if you have the personnel to pull it off. Obviously we dont.

by TITCUS on Oct 1, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As the poster pointed out...

Royster had several different options and probably made the wrong read.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't a bad play call

It really wasn’t. It was somewhat unpredictable for PSU to run this play. It gave the runningback multiple options as opposed to him having one hole to hit. It also was a quick running play that gets blown up because we don’t execute. It is easy to blame the coaches, but that play call was a good one in that situation. He had a hole, he just didn’t hit it.

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by carolinaeasy on Oct 1, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For Royster to hit the first hole

by cutting back, he would have had to do a Barry Sanders jump-cut. At least that’s what it looks like to me when you watch the play at normal speed. He has too much momentum going to the right.

by Joe 96alum on Oct 2, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he didn't learn that while playing lacrosse?

did you know he used to play lacrosse!?!?!

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Oct 2, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also
He had a hole, he just didn’t hit it.

That’s what she said.

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by Horse N Buggy on Oct 2, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed . . .

But based on where Suhey is going, this looks like a sweep. Meaning that the first to gaps were not an option in Roysters mind? I agree that Pannel missed his block, but I dont think he should have been put in that situation. You have a 10 point lead and your on the 2 yard line . . . run it up the gut behind some serious beef!!!

by TITCUS on Oct 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

This is the sort of information ESPN doesn’t want you to see. Instead, you will be force-fed a loop of Schlereth and May beating the drum of inanity and extreme close ups of the QB.

Seriously, if you listen to Herbstreit, he’s often working out the X’s and O’s, but ESPN likes the high impact trench zoom angles. High angle analyses like these are the best part of football. Thanks Carolina!

by gcdyersb on Oct 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wisniewski

In my opinion, and I have some experience along the offensive front from once upon a time…Wiz got a stalemate from a nose tackle shaded to his side of the run direction. That folks, is a win. # 50 went a yard + in the wrong direction and that created the play failing. Also in my opinion, Royster punching it inside was not much of an option either. Look at the angle # 77 takes coming off the ball….at NO POINT was he concerned about the nose tackle (in other words doubling or “chipping” on the nose tackle to run inside)….the play was a designed “reach” or stretch play, whatever you wanna call it based on the angles of all blockers at the snap. Even the fullback is moving laterally. To me, the second frame tells all on this play. All blockers moving right except # 50 who is still square to the line of scrimmage and actually stepping back.

Now, I also think this is a pretty questionable play call considering field position.

(postscript- it is EXTREMELY hard to judge this in stop frame and not real speed, but I would like to see the fullback contribute on that d-end)

by hbeach08 on Oct 1, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really

These zone stretch runs have been some of our best running plays all year. I think this was a case of the coaches going with what they thought was a money play for 5 yards. Just didn’t work out that way on a count of rookie nerves.

by BSD on Oct 1, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and...

….let’s give some credit where credit is due….an outstanding play by their D-end blowing it up.

by hbeach08 on Oct 1, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

It’s not like that’s the only play that Powell and company got owned.

by STU Boy on Oct 1, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be willing to bet that Dick Anderson didn't grade that as a plus when he looked at the play

A stalemate by your best offensive lineman is not getting the job done. Even with a shade nose he needs to bucket step and work to log his hips to get himself between the ball and the defender, he doesn’t and Royster is appears to avoid the hole because of this.

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by carolinaeasy on Oct 1, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After reading this, I realize there is so much I DON'T know about football

“shade nose” “bucket step” “log his hips”

Go team – score more points than the other guy!!

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by NJ lion on Oct 2, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hurrah!

The athletic club from my region is considerably superior when compared to the athletic club from your region! Hurrah!

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by ReadingRambler on Oct 2, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wft?

ahh, what the hell, +1 for Biffiness.

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by jtothep on Oct 3, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also a Little note about these zone runs

When you run a zone run like this the fullback doesn’t necessarily lead you to where the ball is going. Over pursuit by the defense, or presnap alignment lend themselves to this type of play running inside and then hitting the cutback. That is what should have happened here.

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BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.

by carolinaeasy on Oct 2, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This play

looked a lot like the stretch play in the 1st half of the Rose Bowl that went to the left and got stuffed on a 3rd & 1 with Stefon Greene. We had a better line then, so that makes me think it’s either a poor design of play or too difficult to execute. You seem to be asking Royster to cut it back up the middle, but when you watch the play in actual motion it seems to me like he has too much momentum going to the right to cut it back that severely.

by Joe 96alum on Oct 1, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As always

great writeup. I was wondering if the reason Royster doesn’t take that first cutback lane is less a downfall of his vision, but perhaps showing some of his apprehension to, for lack of a better term, trust the O-Line at times. I’m sure Royster knows he’s been having less time and space to run, so even if a lane is even minimally blocked, Royster’s going to bump it outside. At which point, it brings up a whole new group of issues.

Again, merely postulating a bit.

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by IcersGuy on Oct 1, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Effort in this post?

Way better than our OL.

Nice work, thanks!!!

by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 2, 2009 7:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely love these posts!

I’ve never played football in my life and its really interesting to see how much decision making and such goes into a play like this.

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by MilroyBoozer on Oct 2, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Different take...

Pretty good breakdown Carolinaeasy…I would like to be a fly in the ointment, if I could.

This play looks like outside zone/stretch, and you have made that identification in your analysis. With that in mind, I would contend that in a stretch play, Royster isn’t reading that hole up the middle that immediately presents itself. If you want to hit that strongside B gap with a running play, I think the play call should have been an inside zone play and not the stretch. The path of the fullback lends me to believe this is an outside play as well.

The downfall of the play is with #50, who’s first step is too slow to get his head across the front of Binns, who ultimately makes the tackle. He gets his head “in the hole” so to speak, Binns can’t make the tackle, at least not for a yard or two loss. Royster’s main fault comes in picture 5, when instead of cutting up inside to get the minimal gain (picture 4 is where you drew the red arrow indicating the early hole), be bounces it outside where no hole exists. This exacerbates the situation with #50’s block and he runs himself right into the tackle.

by hawkfan2679 on Oct 2, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It very well could have been a simple stretch all the way call

But most major football programs will run a three hole read. I agree with you Pannell #50 is not getting the job done. But I also think the early hole was the way to go, they have to make that read presnap and look for it. What everyone forgets here is that the Iowa defender on Pannell does a great job. It is easy for us out here on the sidelines to point fingers we aren’t the ones with mud on our pants and blood on our face.

I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.

BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.

by carolinaeasy on Oct 2, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mud on our pants

I’m such a sissy. I only buy Dockers with the stainguard in them.

by BSD on Oct 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

I know the feeling. Getting old sucks doesn’t it?

I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.

BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.

by carolinaeasy on Oct 2, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 Hole Read

I’ve heard of a 1) Cutback, 2) Bang, or 3) Bounce on an inside zone play, but only 1) Bang and 2) Bounce on outside zone plays. Rarely do you see an outside zone right play come back across the center to the left…that’s what I consider the cutback.

I just wanted to weigh in that I thought that if that play was ever supposed to go up the middle, I don’t think the FB would have led around the right edge.

by hawkfan2679 on Oct 2, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wether Or Not Royster Had...

…a read to make on the play, and I think there was btw maybe a read disguised as a stretch (FB going wide)…Royster clearly in frame 4 took a look up that center crack that appeared fleetingly…wether he ever could of would have gone up it, we don’t. But to me it looked like he looked up there in frame 4 and thought about it but as Carolineasy was pointing out the DTackle was just barely peeking around Wiz and it looked like that deterred Royster, who was obviously looking to bust one for more than the minimun 2-3 the Wiz read would’ve given him.

by JoePaMustStay on Oct 9, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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