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Grading the Penn State Offense Against Eastern Illinois


You all get lucky today. My kid's soccer game got cancelled, so I watched the Penn State game. So you all get a review today. Let's get to it.

Quarterbacks

Daryll Clark was sensational completing 13 of 19 passes for 234 yards and 3 TD. But then I would be worried if he were anything less than sensational against Eastern Illinois. Other than being a little erratic in the redzone on Penn State's second possession, his lone mistake was the interception, and it was an ugly play. He recognized the blitz was coming and looked at Quarless for the short outlet. And he looked. And he looked. And he looked some more. Then I think he even pointed at Quarless and yelled, "Hey, I'm going to throw it there!" Then he threw it and it was intercepted. Let's try not to do that next time, mmmkay?

But let's talk about Mr. Newsome who saw his most extended action of the year. Saturday was more confirmation about some things we already suspected. Newsome is an electrifying runner. It seems like he can go from standing still to top speed in about two steps. And he's a big kid that's tough to bring down. I must admit, when I see him running in that No. 12 jersey, I see a lot of Michael Robinson. Having him in the backfield next year with Evan Royster and Stephfon Green with an experienced offensive line just might be unstoppable. That's the good part.

On the flip side, I saw something else that reminded me of Michael Robinson, but this isn't a good thing. Newsome has a long way to go in refining his mechanics. He throws off his back foot a lot, and he's a little partial to doing the sidearm wrist-flick-thing. And yes, I saw a lot of arm punts. The other thing that bothered me is the way he carries the ball. He had two fumbles in his short time on the field, and there were a few other carries where he let ball separate from his body leaving him susceptible to another fumble. Just looking at the picture to the right makes me nervous with the way he's carrying the ball. He's got to tighten that up, or else that electrifying running ability will be quickly negated.

Final Grade: B

 

Running Backs


I can't think of anything particularly spectacular the running backs did. They didn't fumble, so that's good. I think Royster did a good job of reading his blocks and making the right cuts this week. He looked more like 2008 Royster than 2009 Royster. It looks like he's starting to gain confidence in his offensive line again. He finished the day with 94 yards on 8 carries for a whopping 11.8 yards per carry.

Stephfon Green and Brandon Beachum looked equally impressive averaging 7.2 and 7.0 yards per carry respectively. I still don't know what to think about Green though. It just seems like he either gets impatient and runs past his blockers or he gets too patient and just dances until somebody tackles him. But when he times it correctly and puts it all together it almost seems like he's going to take it to the house on every play. More of that, please.

Final Grade: A

Star-divide

Wide Receivers

Unquestionably, the most pleasant surprise for me this year has been Chaz Powell. I must admit, I was not expecting much from him when the season began. My estimation was based on his performance last year when all I saw was a kid that ran end arounds and dropped half the passes thrown his way. But he has made a lot of progress and he's looking like a regular Derrick Williams out there. Saturday he had four catches for 79 yards and a touchdown. I was really impressed with his 51 yard touchdown pass. The throw from Clark was short, but Powell did a good job of adjusting to the ball and shielding the defender with his body. Then he showed some great concentration to catch the ball while the defender was hanging on him. And does anyone think Deon Butler or Derrick Williams could have fended off that contact and remained on their feet to walk in the endzone? I don't.

From what I saw Saturday, Justin Brown is going to be a star before his career is over. He caught everything thrown his way including a nice diving catch out of bounds. He threw a key block on Stephfon Green's 26 yard touchdown, and he even had Penn State's biggest punt return of the season for 18 yards. I think he has definitely earned the right to see more playing time going forward.

I felt great for Brett Brackett. After struggling to see the field and break out of his slump all season, he finally caught a touchdown pass. But then I felt bad for him because the announcer credited it to Mickey Shuler.

Final Grade: A

 

Offensive Line

Nothing special here. You expect a Div. IA offensive line to dominate an FCS team, and that's what Penn State did. But there were a couple of false starts, including one that killed the second drive forcing State to kick a field goal. So no perfect grade this week, guys.

Final Grade: B

 

Offensive Coaching

Eh, it's Eastern Illinois. But I was impressed with the motivation. It would have been easy for the team to pack it in and just go through the motions against this team. Credit the coaches for getting them motivated and focused to play this team. It looks like the team did a good job of shaking off the Iowa loss and coming together.

I was glad to see a lot of younger players get in the game, but I felt like they could have got Newsome in there earlier. He really should have started the second half, but Paterno went with Clark. The offense went 3-and-out, and I think Paterno didn't want them ending on a bad note like that, so Clark took the next series. I kind of predicted this was going to happen somewhere in the comments. Clark took a nasty shot on that last drive which pretty much infuriated me. There was no need to have him in there when they were up 38-3. It's not like Eastern Illinois was coming back.

Final Grade: B

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Yawn, cupcake, yawn

I just hope that Justin Brown can restore the honor of the number 19.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I know, right?

Do you think he knew about this history of that number and OMG Shirtless wide receivers?

by BSD on Oct 12, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard

When they were giving out numbers, Spider held up No. 19, the room went a little quiet and the kids with no number yet kinda hemmed and hawed and looked away. Then Justin Brown stood up and said to Spider: Sack up and give it to me.

He hasn’t looked back since.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 12, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stabby McStabberson

or Chris Bell…whichever you prefer was a 5 Star WR recruit. Everyone expected big things from Stabby. He showed flashes, but never put it together. Bell got into an argument with his teammate…which i believe was Devon Still and pulled the knife. He also yelled that he had more knives and a gun on campus. Article is here

Stabby left Happy Valley and transfered to Norfolk State.

"I'm not affraid to compete"
~Robert Bolden

by QBsneak12 on Oct 12, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT'S NOT STABBY MCSTABBERSON

It’s Stabby McShankerson! Get it right.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected.

"I'm not affraid to compete"
~Robert Bolden

by QBsneak12 on Oct 12, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

although we’ve got little to go on, he appears to have put it together at another school, which I’m happy to hear.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 12, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't you hear?

They supplied him with a box of cell phone cases when he transferred, so he should be good to go from here on out.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh. I guess I just didn't put two and two together.

I’m familiar with the works of Shanky McStaberson. I just didn’t know he wore 19. Learn something new every day…

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not until RR once again accepts the Zug as The One. Granted he had only one catch, but Boone had only one punt.

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

BLASPHEMY!

I can accept you taking on a new god, but I will not sit idly by and allow you to speak ill of The Zug. I, sir, challenge you to a duel.

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm quaking in my boots

I mean, after Zug’s victorious duel with Iowa…

Oh, wait.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That seems a bit harsh

I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. I would hope you would accept Zug back into your life before you stoop to THAT level.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bad proposition

however, I fear the Boone has twisted him too far. He’s like the Darth Vader of BSD, and the evil Boone is the Emperor (can you tell that I’m watching ROTJ on Spike right now?)

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best part about that story

Is that it happened in Pollock Commons at 6:30… and there were coaches with him… and it was over a cell phone case.

Um, seriously??

How in the world does anyone think anything other than getting kicked off the team with possible criminal charges could result from that situation. And for a freaking cell phone case?! I am still amazed by that.

by PSUMark2008 on Oct 12, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin

Justin’s a good kid. You find any of that mess out of him. I actually work with a friend of his mom. Justin’s an good, upstanding kid who will do a lot of good for this program. I will be absolutely shocked for what I know and have seen of Justin if he has any sort of behavior problems.

by MGPardoePSU on Oct 12, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Newsome is a true frosh

The jump he’s going to experience from year 1 to year 2 will be pretty nice. He’ll be even bigger and stronger too and he’ll look like MRob even more, which is scary. Others on the internet were freaking out about Newsome’s play but I’m just not that worried. Everyone should have suspected that he look like this as a true frosh.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Oct 12, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

The Big Ten had one of these this year.

A true frosh last year that was supposed to have a big jump this year. It’s debatable whether or not there was a jump.

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you agree that Pryor is not the norm in college football or at PSU?

Newsome doesn’t seem nearly like Pryor at all in terms of attitude. I think it will play out a lot differently.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Oct 12, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we don't know

and shouldn’t expect progress, I think that is the lesson here, and its one we learned not that long ago with QB14.

For the record I expect progress, but I think it’s best to stay consistent in terms of assumptions.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 12, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

QB14

IMO was an anomaly (hopefully anyway). No amount of coaching was going to help him, as illustrated by the lack of a pro QB coach being able to do anything with him.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

him and austin scott were cut from the same fabric

unable to comprehend an offensive scheme. at least if newsome gets in trouble he can run out of it

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Oct 12, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you have to take the system into account

There’s no way you’re going to take a zone option read type guy and shoe-horn him into a more pro-style offense. Ohio State has put Pryor in the gun more this year, but he’d have been better suited in an offense that showcased his abilities. Newsome seems to be in the right situation. The passing game will come around for him. It’s just nice to know that his legs can get him out of trouble and give the defense something to worry about.

Also, I don’t think expectations are nearly as hgh for Newsome as they were for Pryor.

by Spats on Oct 12, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's lost in the Pryor thing, I think

is that he expressly rejected the “get me in the best system for me” thing when he turned down a automatic first year job for what looked like, at the time, a certain freshman year on the bench at Ohio State. From what I remember he did this because he wanted to become a QB, not a Pat White.

Part of the reason I thought Smart Football’s comments after the USC game were partly off base was because he ignored this completely. He suggested that Pryor should transfer right away and get in a system that “uses his skills” while ignoring the fact that he specifically picked a program that was going to do what is being done instead of simply running an offense around how well he might be able to run the read.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 12, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

first year job = michigan BTW, left that out.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 12, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true, and now that I think about it..

I remember him saying something (in regards to Michigan) about not wanting to be a run quarterback.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He felt his strength was in his passing??

Tressel couldn’t have told him that with a straight face.

A win over Pitt is like kissing your sister

by JuniataMan on Oct 12, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also on Pryor

Let’s remember that he basically had the starting job handed to him about three games into his true freshman season. There hasn’t been anyone to rival him for the quarterback spot since.

Newsome will have to earn the job by beating out Jones and Bolden. Whoever wins the competition will be stronger for it. I look at it as we have three good options while Ohio State and Tressel are married to Pryor win or lose.

by BSD on Oct 12, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope that

it’s a real competition and not a “competition.” I’m not trying to imply anything about Clark/Devlin ‘cause that’s in the past and I think the right man won, but I don’t think we can deny Joe’s propensity to give it to the older guy (see QB14/Clark).

by PSUMark2008 on Oct 12, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's fair

The man has won 286(7?) games. A lot of times we crucified him for not going with the younger kid only to later find out he knew what he was doing. I think we need to let this play out and see where it goes. I’m sure he’s not going to be happy about his choices being a true sophomore or two true freshmen. But I trust he will put in whoever gives us the best chance of winning.

I will say this for Newsome: Everything I hear says he’s a good leader and his teammates respond well to him in the huddle. IMO that’s 50% of being a good quarterback.

by BSD on Oct 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your last paragraph

Everytime I read something like that, I think back to the spring of ’07 when Morelli was turning into a real leader.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not criticizing Joe

Except for he who must not be named (which Joe later admitted was a mistake) I think he’s always made the right choice. And obviously, I have no idea who out of Newsome/Jones/Bolden is or will be the best QB. I’m just saying that there is some evidence that seniority can sometimes trump skill when it comes to who gets the starting job. Joe has the right to make that decision and I’ll trust his decision when he makes it. I’m just saying that I hope it really is based on who is the best QB.

by PSUMark2008 on Oct 12, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

McGloin

Don’t forget about the darkhorse of the race…

Oh…who am I kidding….

"I'm not affraid to compete"
~Robert Bolden

by QBsneak12 on Oct 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Expectations

“nearly as high for Newsome as they were for Pryor”

reminds me of a time a few years ago…

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember

MRob looking like Bad Juice Williams prior to ‘05 anytime he got garbage time duty. Newsome can be something special if he works hard. It’s too early to be saying he’ll be a Pryor or he’ll be a Robinson. We’ll have to wait until 2010 to find out.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Oct 12, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robinson

never got any serious playing time until ’05 – and, as we all remember, it took 3.75 games to see any evidence of a “jump.”

by PSUgirl on Oct 12, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo

As fondly and romantically as we all recall MRob there were chants aplenty for ANTHONY MORELLI to be put in. MRob was pretty bad the first few games that year and then it flipped and the rest is history.

Anyways, why anyone would be worried about Newsome right now is beyond me. My only hope is one that I think Bolden and Jones have: Do not automatically give the job to Newsome. I think he will earn it on his own, the job will be his rightfully. However, if Robert Bolden or PJ Jones show up and blow everyone away, give them the job. Just give it to whoever is the BEST QB, not who was here first.

I mean programs such as USC and UM are playing freshman QBs, so maybe we can get sweet savory espn frosh QB coverage?

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 12, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think people are worried about Newsome now because

If DC17 gets injured, Newsome becomes the man…and with little quality playing-time this far into the season, paired with the fact that his passing is not spectacular, a potentially great season goes right down the drain.

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 12, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget about Little Red

and a side bar….it looks like Big Red ate a tire before the start of the game…i guess it is easier to rest your arms when you have something to prop them up.

"I'm not affraid to compete"
~Robert Bolden

by QBsneak12 on Oct 12, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Big Red’s Old Man was/is really big.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

II was thinking the same thing...

Ring Ring
Red Speaking
Hi, I would like to speak to Hugh Jass, do you have a Hugh Jass there?

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 12, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Newsome will be the

ultimate test of Jay Paterno’s capability as a QB coach. If Newsonv2.0 throws sidearm flicks from his back foot and runs with the ball like it’s a loaf of bread, then any goodwill Jay has built up the last few year(s) will have eroded and I will question the guys’s ability once again.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 12, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what if one of the freshmen step up big time?

Look at Tater at UM. Granted they have lost a couple, but is it unfathomable to think Bolden or PJ could do that, if given the opportunity? Let’s say Newsome craps the bed against Bama. All reports are that Bolden is nasty…I’d say give the whole QB crop a shot before stringing up JayPA. Of course if Newsome gets his stuff together and wins the Heisman, Jay can stay.

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps, if given the opportunity

but that’s exactly it: I do not see Joe allowing a true freshman to hold the reins of his offense when there is an upperclassmen ahead of him.

But then again, we have an odd, and for PSU, a rare situation at QB. For the first time in a while we’ll have young talent (a true soph, and two true freshmen, assuming one isn’t redshirted) instead of a junior/senior who has been waiting for his turn at the helm for two years behind the upperclassman starters.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

My worries

Newsome’s throwing left a lot to be desired….

I’m more concerned about September 11, 2009 at Alabama. All that running is fine, but it won’t work when we need you to throw the ball. Next year we are going to have some very experienced WRs and we are going to need someone to get them the ball.

Also, how do you trust a kid that had his helemet stolen on the sidelines :-)

"I'm not affraid to compete"
~Robert Bolden

by QBsneak12 on Oct 12, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now, Forcier looks light years

better than newsome. Newsome is a natural runner, sans the fact that he holds the ball like a hot potato, but his passing (everything about it) looks BAD.

by brd119 on Oct 12, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness though

Forcier is probably taking 90% of the first team reps in practice. Newsome probably gets 10%.

by BSD on Oct 12, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

^this

"...Drink'n Blue Kool - Aid; One Sip @ a Time..."

by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 12, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a very good point.

Next year (just a look ahead) will he be our starter or will it be up for grabs?

by jetskijoe on Oct 12, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tough to say

Jones is enrolling in the spring, so I think he’ll get a chance to see what he can do. I think he’ll be given the opportunity to compete for the job. But ultimately I think Newsome will be your starter on opening day.

I think you will see Bolden redshirt to create some separation.

by BSD on Oct 12, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But thats the problem with two great freshman QBs

Newsome will be a soph, PJ a true, and Bolden a redshirt. There is the smallest separation possible. This is why I see PJ or Bolden transferring, which I’m not opposed to (I mean they have to do what’s good for them). I just hope the coaches let all three compete (READ: don’t automatically give it to the upperclassman) and the guy that comes in third should be free to transfer.

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with that

If the guy that finishes second or third wants to transfer, I wish him well. The important thing is that whoever wins the job is going to have to beat some good talent. I would rather be in that situation than have a five star handed the job over a bunch of walk ons.

by BSD on Oct 12, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with that either.

The problem is going to be in getting the separation. Once a winner is declared (assuming Joe declares one) next year, I feel one of the others will transfer. The other should redshirt, but there lays (lies?) the problem, in that we’ll only have one QB. To get the separation that either PJ or Bolden want, there should be two years. It’s a catch 22 that could bite us in the ass if it isn’t handled properly. Unless Newsome loses the job, or leaves early for the NFL, it would appear to be Newsome, then PJ/Bolden one year behind (one year starter) and the other transferring. Only time will tell…

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boo Hoo

I wish we had this problem every year.

by BSD on Oct 12, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same

I have no idea how people possibly think this is a negative situation. Yeah a lot of things could happen. Injuries, off field stuff, people not panning out, etc, If you want to be an elite program, you need to as they say “Re-load” not “Re-build” If USC and UF and UT can have 5* waiting in the wings at every position, we sure as hell should be able to handle it. A kid transfers? Thats why you need depth.

It is never a bad thing to have too much talent, so long as the kids you bring understand the fact that they will have to compete and are willing to do so.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 12, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

competition will breed talent

if kids are in a competitive mindset in practice, would that not help them bring the same thing to a game. you feel bad for kids that don’t cut it, but with the way the rules are structured now, they can still find a school that suits them.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Oct 12, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only real negative I can find in this situation

is that I like all three of them, and would be sad to see any of them go, even though it is likely to happen at some point.

But like Mike said, it’s not a bad problem to have.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be clear, I wasn't complaining.

Just saying that, while this position is VERY advantageous, it sets up very trickily (if that’s a word). I would love nothing more than a very easy decision to be made, and Bolden being a 4 time Heisman winner.

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND

Forcier was flying all over the country for elite camps at the age of 12. Newsome grew up in a tiny town and was generally considered “raw” in the creepy recruiting sense. The flip side of that is that Forcier probably entered college with less room for improvement and “coaching up” than Newsome did.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 12, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent Point

Kids like Forcier are molded for this purpose from a young age. Then they are set and you can do little to change them. PSU doesn’t really have a great track record with guys like that. We need kids that might take longer to develop but take direction and coaching well.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 12, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

QB robots

Anytime I read a story like Forcier’s, I’m reminded of the creepy Marinovich story, how the dad molded his kid to be a USC QB from like age 3. I’m just glad I never had parents like that. There’s being great at something, then there’s being obsessed and having no life other than your obsession. Just kinda creepy.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Oct 12, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

A glimpse of that--Coach vs player this weekend

Forcier pouting on the bench while RR (the other one) yells at him

A win over Pitt is like kissing your sister

by JuniataMan on Oct 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but do they have a grotto?

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Oct 13, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I wouldn’t be surprised if they do. If his parents were able to afford to send all their “superstar” QB sons to camps around the country, I have a feeling they’re probably loaded, which increases the likelihood of grotto ownership.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that 10% is with the second team

If I remember right, and I was looking for this when he came in at the end of the 3rd, they took the 1st team o-line out. I had wanted to see him take a few snaps with the first team O-line (and in fact I saw him warming up with Wiz on the sidelines right before he came in, so I thought he was going to play with the 1st team, but Wiz had his helmet off and walked away when the offense was ready to come back on), but apparently not.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now...

Newsome= Denard “Shoelace” Robinson…

Excellent runner…shaky thrower (Robinson missed two wide open WRs on the pick he threw…ball was overthrown by 15 yards)

"I'm not affraid to compete"
~Robert Bolden

by QBsneak12 on Oct 12, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, however, it is a little alarming, to me anyway, that he’s not a little further along than what he’s showing being that he enrolled in January. He had 4 months head start and doesn’t look close.

by WETSU on Oct 12, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second Half DC17

That was ridiculous. I recall reading somewhere that Paterno wasn’t going to use Newsome until the 4th quarter and he almost waited that long.

There is absolutely no reason that Newsome couldn’t have started the second half with a couple more starters at the skill positions around him to give him ever better feel for the game. I also cringed, cursed, and I am pretty sure threw something when Clark got popped when he shouldn’t have been in the game. You would think the Sean Lee injury while ( who I am now convinced has a problem way more serious than a simple knee sprain) playing in the 4th quarter of the Temple blowout would have been a good guide.

We are not normal. We are legends.

by NittanyAlum02 on Oct 12, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Why are you now more convinced that Lee has a serious injury?

They weren’t about to play him against Northwest Maine A&T.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa now

I think you’re blowing Lee’s condition out of proportion. If he was that badly injured he wouldn’t be suited up for each game, he’d be in street clothes. I’m glad he hasn’t played since he was injured because other than Iowa, we haven’t played anyone that deserved us risking further injury to him for.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Excuse me, Mr. Lee?

Please don’t suit up for the game. ’k, bye." < zips out of the room >

Bradley supposedly didn’t want him Lee to put on his pads. See how that worked out.

by confirmy on Oct 12, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been hearing...

things that concern me with Lee’s injury that’s all. Its nothing I can confirm so I’m not going to start spreading internet rumors, but as the weeks pass (and when we start switching safeties to outside linebacker) and he still isn’t practicing or playing I am becoming more concerned that there is truth in the rumors. As for him in pads, everyone on that field knew there wasn’t a chance on earth he goes into the game Saturday. The fact that he had pads on is not really telling one way or the other. It seems like a bit of a charade to me.

We are not normal. We are legends.

by NittanyAlum02 on Oct 12, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we haven't played anyone since Iowa.

Wait? We did? Well we didn’t play anyone of note. And next week isn’t much better, although Weber/Decker could surprise a lot of people. I think Lee hasn’t played because I could have dressed in his spot and both scores would have been the same. No risk ruining a yet-to-begin NFL career over Easter Illinois Tech A&M. Better to get him more than enough rest to ensure he is at his best when he rips the pansy off of Pryor.

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 12, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not disagreeing with you about the competition since Iowa.

And trust me I truly hope you are correct and its all just to be entirely sure he is 100% and not 95%. Like I said, its just a concern because of the rumors. I will be happy just to hear when he is practicing most of the week honestly. Our defense is clearly not as good without him and we will certainly miss his speed and skill against both Ohio State and Michigan.

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by NittanyAlum02 on Oct 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beachum

Looked very solid to me. Always need to be cautious when seeing sparks against FCS teams, but he looked like Tony Hunt with more agility.

by jigalion on Oct 12, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Beachum looked REAL good

problem is how/where are they going to find playing time between him, Green, Royster and some of the talent behind them?

by brd119 on Oct 12, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

sounds exactly like Tony Hunt…

by PSUgirl on Oct 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this next game

 #3 / BB will get the ball and will show HIS “IT.” The coaches will then call his # again and again. It will be that type of big play from which “thereforward,” the coaches will seriously have to scrutinize which of the our 3 gets in on any particular down.

We have 3 main – but different backs. All 3 can play; BUT the coaches need to dial “IT” up alot more carefully now. Beachum will get this shot and move the ball decisively – and that will beget the momentum to really open-up the full potential of our ’09 Spread HD.

The Spread HD play calling options for PSU are like a mathmatical permutation. This is where the film study comes to its fruition too. Each play is key; truely “dialed-up.” Moreover, on our offense, there is a key player whose # gets called.

This addition of BB – and even the “Justin Brown’s” now just need to get applied.

Momentum begets momentum; within our players – amongst our coaches. PSU has the talent, the heart and ability to finish strong this year…lets go show it now…

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by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 12, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

for “mathematical permutation.”

by Joe 96alum on Oct 12, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

How to get Beachum on the field

1. Move Green to Slot WR or CB
2. Let Beachum get some carries.

Side note…in 2010 the question will be how do we get Curtis “Kajana Carter” Dukes the ball…
1. Move Beachum to FB or LB
2. Let Dukes get some carries

It’s a cycle

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by QBsneak12 on Oct 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget about Carter

he might be moved to FB, but he looked like a bulldozer on his TD run at Illinois

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 12, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a horrible problem

So many good RBs, we can’t figure out how to get them all on the field.

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by NJ lion on Oct 13, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought he looked

incredibly slow…he had a big knee brace on too

by hbeach08 on Oct 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said: bulldozer (which are more regarded for their power than speed)

The knee brace is because he tore his ACL. And you don’t need to be incredibly fast to be said bulldozer.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beachum was also a hell of a good LB at Mooney

If there’s no room in the backfield and injuries keep piling up with the LBs…..

by Spats on Oct 12, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken

(and it’s possible I am), I’m pretty sure Beachum is on kickoff coverage. So technically we’re still using him for both purposes (RB and LB).

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by IcersGuy on Oct 12, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

RB receptions

Is anyone else suprised that combined, Royster and Green have less than 10 receptions to date. I like the use of Quarless; he already has 18 receptions compared to just 11 all of last year. That said I think he could have been used a lot more in the Iowa game. It also seems like screens and draws to your running backs can help to slow down a pass rush. At the beginning of the season Paterno was touting how they were going to get Royster more involved in the passing game. I haven’t seen it and the numbers speak for themselves. I know Suhey has caught the ball a good bit, especially on 3rd down, but IMO Royster and Green both need to get more short catches in the coming weeks. It can only help the OL.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?

by pic15 on Oct 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know if anyone has ever screened succesfully against Iowa

Something to do with the way Ferentz teaches his linemen and LBs.

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by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It could have been tried more than it was.....

I think a screen was tried twice all game….. not enough attempts to give up on it. Regardless of whether the staff calls screens or not though, i would still like to see Royster and Green with more catches. It gets them out in space and creates mismatches with the LBs. Quarless does too…..would love to see an even heavier dose of him in the Big 10 schedule!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?

by pic15 on Oct 12, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why don't we see any options?

With the running ability of Clark and speed of our RB and WR. With some of these Defenses we could stretch them out and make them cover another part of our offense.

by jetskijoe on Oct 12, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I always want the option

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by Roland86 on Oct 12, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screen Passes Vanished...

…agree w. pic 15 I’d like to see them work on the screem game a little which can be devastating if executed right with bax with moves like Royster and Green…The Iowa defense was ASKING to be scalded on a screen pass play and for whatever reason I don’t think I saw a single one called.

by JoePaMustStay on Oct 12, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

According to the Iowa people...

nobody screens Iowa.

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by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We tried it once

The linemen couldn’t hold their blocks long enough and Karl Klug(?) batted it down.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarly agree...

with the Iowa people. I think Clark rocketed one through royster’s hands on the only attempt. A good team can screen anybody. The Patriots during their superbowl years used to screen anyone and everyone. It’s all about execution.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just like that I'm an Iowa person now

And I’m sticking by my post: the linemen couldn’t hold their blocks long enough.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They probably didn't hold their blocks...

they were not good in that game.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we had a difficult time b/c the o-line....

isn’t good enough. I think it had less to do with the super human abilities of Iowa’s front 7 and more to do with a poor o-line. Not to mention that Iowa’s coaches are in PSU’s coaches’ heads.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa and OL

The screen is consistently looked at as a way to help an OL, especially a weaker line like we have. It slows down the pass rush. If you don’t want to screen throw some RB draws in in addition to the QB draws Clark is starting to implement. I think we tried 2 screens in the Iowa game. Neither were successful but for different reasons. One had nothing to do with Iowa…rather Clark rocketed the ball. We could also do the WR screen with the Spread but really haven’t tried that all that much either. Regardless of Iowa…..I think the screen, draw and even option as noted above can be ways to help our OL in the upcoming BigTen schedule.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?

by pic15 on Oct 12, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa/Michigan

1. If you tell Joe Paterno that the game is going to end 13-9, or 6-4 or whatever, he’ll take that. It’s how he wants to play. Iowa and Lloyd Carr Michigan teams will/would play that game with us.

Lloyd Carr especially just had a knack for getting Paterno into games that he couldn’t resist. And it cost us. Ferentz has, to some extent, that same knack.

2. We kill Iowa on a fast track last year. And I think we beat them 3 out of 5 in good conditions this year.

But see #1 above. Paterno wants to be conservative. He needs to be conservative. It’s how he understands football. He doesn’t even see it as conservative, he sees it as a football game.

Michigan was able to man up and beat us at our own game. Iowa in the past two years caught some feild condition breaks that neutralized some of our advantages.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would PSU’s line have performed better If we had better conditions?

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

But Clark’s throws would be more accurate, and our speed advantage on the outside would be more pronounced. Plus we’d have tried to do more on offense rather than try to nurse a 10 point lead for three quarters.

Paterno went into full blown don’t blow it mode after we went up ten points, and that is totally because of the conditions.

Keep in mind, we were winning in the fourth quarter. The special teams play was a back breaker. Imagine for a second, what if Boone gets that kick off and they are pinned deep down 5 in the fourth quarter?

It’s not like we never had a chance against Iowa. Let’s put that rumor to bed right now.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. PSU loses that game on a sunny afternoon.

Iowa was just better. Both years.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well last season that's just silly.

This year, maybe, maybe not.

Like I said, one play, and the blocked punt is what swung that game their way, doesn’t make them defintely better.

They played better that game, no doubt about it. They made the plays they needed to win. But we were winning for 75% of the game.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It just matters who is winning when the clock hits...

zero in the 4th Quarter. Last year, the D had a chance to come up with a stop, it didn’t.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think that it is possible

To acknowledge defeat and say hey good game without thiking that Iowa Supermen are out superiors and bowing down to them.

We had chances to win both games. But those are the breaks. We’ll see who has the better record at the end of the season. Usually it’s us.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Should have won last year...

should have put Iowa away early this year, but Iowa has PSU’s number.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

But I’d readily admit that Joe Paterno may be the only other person that thinks that.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa's won 7 of 8 in the series...

they can’t all be luck.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine...I give up....

you are right.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cue the band

Rambler should have his own little fight song whenever someone says he’s right.

by BSD on Oct 12, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

true...

but the excuses for losing to Iowa are running thin…

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll prepare one ahead of time

Iowa will be very good next year. They return most of the defense and could reload at key spots. It’s in Iowa City. We don’t stand a chance against a possible Rose Bowl team.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not pre-determined, though PSU's road wins of note

are few are far between of late.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was that one game against Ohio State

And we are 1-0 on the road this year.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

as I said, few and far between...

not non-existent. Last win in Ann Arbor? 1996? I hope they win at Iowa next year. I think the program has stepped out of the dark years. The next step is to keep winning big road conference games. IL doesn’t count.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could get behind that

HAIL! to the Rambler valiant!

HAIL! to the Rambler something

HAIL! HAIL! to something something Rambler of the west!

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ugh

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Admit it

My version is better than the original.

Anything’s better than the original.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider it sung.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 12, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have more arrogant

and/or self aggrandizing lyrics ever been written?

To think they totally miss the irony in singing them about a team that is coached my Rich Rodriguez.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why I chose that song, jesse.

It’s arrogance and my arrogance are a match made in heaven.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I had you pegged as self aggrandizing

Arrogant? Huh, learn something new every day.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might be right

I’ll have has to ask the programmer.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 12, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why can't I find a picture of

Paterno chasing the refs in 2002?

Also: there are so many photoshops of Paterno I’m surprised there is enough room on the internet for them all.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the team, too

When they were shown on the sidelines, they looked defeated.
There was no fire or intensity or drive to get back on the field and beat Iowa.
When things started to go badly, it seemed like they gave up.

by confirmy on Oct 12, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't deny that

Momentum is what makes college ball college ball.

That’s why one play can change a game.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ripe!

I feel as though this photograph is a-ripe for a-Photoshoppin’.

by MainLion on Oct 12, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

it looks already has been

Chaz’s arm just looks funky

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by amandakt on Oct 12, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moye

seems pretty solid so far, but the way he carries the ball scares me. i dont know if it is because his arms are so long, but it just looks like its hanging out there when he is running. i saw the fumble against illinois a mile away, and it looked like he was gonna lose another one while running across the middle this weekend.

by Hamulus on Oct 12, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Wonder What Exactly IA Does..

…that you “can’t screen” them…front 4 was just pinning its ears back and comin…but then I guess if you can;t hold your block for even the split second it requires, it’ll be blown up…I DO remember the one attempt that Klug snuffed now. And their front 4 was so dominant that for long stretches PSU not only couldn;t screen but couldn;t run or throw at it…they’re were a mini ’91 Eagles.

by JoePaMustStay on Oct 12, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

They also have top-notch blogging.

Replete with witty banter, fantastical story-lines, comical fly-on-the-wall playwrights, and other-worldly superheroes. Just ask Rambler.

JVP, on the other hand, can’t download a jar of peanut butter. How could we possibly compete?

Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater

by NittanyTide on Oct 12, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

< end sarcasm font >

Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater

by NittanyTide on Oct 12, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can't

We’ll never beat Iowa again, ever.

Where’s the Beer and the Bar-b-Que?

by jesse. on Oct 12, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa.......

lived off the bubble screen for quite a few years. Its possible their defense isn’t as fooled by a screen because of that. If you listen to announcers everytime Iowa runs a screen, you would think Ken O’Keefe invented the screen.

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Dan Rooney

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by ech2os on Oct 12, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah...

…so the special anti-screen D Kirk has is “Be meaner and tougher than the linemen across from you.”
I think Penn State should try it :) ..just might work.
Do they have a machine the cranks out tough, white DTackles too b/c Klug=Mitch King.

by JoePaMustStay on Oct 12, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure where to post this, but it is discussed above, so ill try it here

People need to back up off of Iowa’s nuts. Yeah they beat us, yeah they could win the big ten this year, but god darn it, by listening to some people you would think they are the 1985 Chicago Bears. They will not be undefeated this year, they won’t be playing for a NC, they are just good.

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by Roland86 on Oct 12, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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