How much?

I also worked 40 hours a week in the summer. I don’t know the rules specifically, but are the players forbidden from working outside the school year? The pay I made from the summer kept me fed and housed all school year, and even a few pitchers at the bars.

makes the case for the kids to get a little stipend. He says a player is more likely to get caught up in a bad situation with an agent when they don’t have money. He wants them to be able to afford to go to the movies and take a date once in awhile with out borrowing money from his folks, or friends.

JoePa agrees with the small amount of money for the kids…

I’m for giving them something like $65 a month…. A kid has got to have some dignity. There’s dignity in a kid going out with his friends and saying, ‘Hey, this pizza is on me.’ Kids need to be able to fit into the mainstream of student life.

My response to that is always “Who’s paying their stipend?” I don’t think it’s fair to make the other students pay it in tuition. Maybe a portion of ticket sales, NLC contributions? But you raise an interesting point with what Nike and everyone else makes off of merchandise which is essentially profiting from the players… There might be some ways to monetize that for the players without it turning into the NFL with endorsements and merchandising contracts and all that. For instance, they’re not allowed to negotiate deals, but all NCAA athletes automatically get a flat cut (1%) of all merchandise sales that are specifically in reference to them as a player (i.e.: Sean Lee wouldn’t get anything from someone buying a generic PSU tshirt but would get 1% of the profit from selling a 45 jersey). Something to think about…

being Darryl Clark and seeing your jersey hanging at Family Clothesline and not being able to afford it. Pretty shameful IMO….Gotta give them something or else stop putting them on tv as the villian every time a kid that comes from nothing and still has nothing in college accepts a handout from a booster just to fit in with people less talented than him at sports.

Players get full scholarships, books paid for and a meal stipend for road games.

I get the athletes believe they should be compensated, but they already are…that is what an athletic scholarship is.

Players think they should be paid because they are in video games now too. once you give a little, the flood gates are opened….not a good thing.

If they worked jobs, boosters would tip them thousands of dollars…a very bad thing.

the game is not innocent…but we can try to make people think it is still

If they’ll get rid of incidental facemasks, they should get rid of RITP.

My argument is invalid. sigh

I think that would solve a ton of problems.

Can Penn State come up with the money to pay all it’s athletes a stipend? Probably. But what about Buffalo, or Akron or countless numbers of other schools that aren’t drowning in boosters and jersey sales.

It’s not an issue of can Penn State afford it, everybody has to be able to afford it, or it would be an unfair cometitive advantage.

But I think you would sue and win a share of the money.

These players have made the university what it is today. Pay them a stipend. They are not normal, the sooner the regular student population realizes the work they put into the program the better.

the company makes a ton of money, and you won’t see any of it (though you will probably have pretty good job security from then on out).

What annoys the hell out of me is that from my experience working at 3 major pharmaceutical companies, whenever there was a major drug release, the marketing departments would get HUGE bonuses, and the research & development departments would get cake. Seriously? Ugh.

is there a blank space in between my comment and farrellpsu’s. Doesn’t make any sense. Whatever.

dead to us. Viva la Bad Rambler.

I like to think that good things happen to good people, but not as often as the optimist in me would like.

You should probably turn the card in to me, Shell, or Petethestreak.

What the schools charge for the education, is not really what it costs them to provide it. For a couple of reasons.

1. I’m sure they build that cost into the standard tuition that everybody else pays.
2. Most of Penn State’s football scholarships are fully endowed by private donors; ie the Joe & Kelly Schmo scholarship for middle linebackers.
3. Comm 180 costs the same amount to put on whether there are 180, or 181 kids in the class. Really the only “cost” to having scholarship athletes is the loss of income of having another paying student in the dorms.

But at the end of the day, I don’t think anybodu is philosphically opposed to putting some spending money in these kids pockets. But close to a hundred comments later, nobody has come up with a realistic way of accomplishing it. Too many moving parts.

My only suggestion is to investigate scholarships that cover the “true cost of education”, that would have some walking around money built into them. But even this doesn’t make the money grow on a tree, nor does it eliminate the potential for abuse and/or inequity. Obviously the true cost of education in Miami, is different than in Akron.

i am just internally conflicted.

I guess I should just say that I personally empathize with the whole “being dead broke” thing that some of these athletes have. I know how bad it sucks not having spending money. I really do.
I also know how incredibly gracious I am to at least have enough to eat, have clothes, warm place to live and an opportunity to attend a great school.
I know what they contribute to the university and how hard they work, I know that I work every bit as hard, albeit in a less marketable area. I am fine with all of that.

I take nothing away from these guys, I know most of them are good students and stay out of trouble. It is unfortunate that some of them can’t experience some of the things that are a part of college life, but there really isn’t an easy solution. As I said, I am not opposed to them having some money, but how do you do it fairly? What if a player is from a well off family? Do they get the same as someone from a dirt-poor family even though they don’t need it?

I just don’t think they are getting as raw of a deal as it is made to be sometimes and I know that I would probably feel the same way they do if i was in their shoes. its just the ugly side of the sport.

Things like scholarships for non-revenue generating sports. That would be the sticking point.

Get started!

Can I debate Title IX with CarolinaEasy instead of working this afternoon? Can I, Can I, Can I!!!!