Joe Paterno Press Conference Notes
by BSD on Oct 20, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
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Here are the quick bullet points from Joe's press conference today.
- The presser got off on an odd note today when a reporter asked Joe about his recruitment of Tate Forcier and Joe acted like he didn't know what the reporter was talking about.
Joe, you and your staff recruited Tate Forcier. Can you talk about the adjustment he's made from high school to college football?
Joe Paterno: You said our staff recruited him? Is that right?
Yes.
Joe Paterno: We knew about him; we didn't really recruit him. He really didn't have a lot of interest in us, I don't think. But anyway he's --
I found this a little shocking since Forcier made an UNOFFICIAL VISIT FROM CALIFORNIA. If a kid pays his own way to fly across the country to visit you're school it's safe to say he's interested. Given Joe's ability to run into a guy that played for him but never started in 70's and ask him if his mom still makes that spaghetti he liked so much, I find it hard to believe Joe doesn't remember recruiting Tate Forcier. I hope this doesn't give Tate any bulletin board material.
Joe, what's made Michigan stadium such a tough place to play in and win for you guys?
Joe Paterno: I don't think Michigan stadium is a tough place to play.
Do they really need more motivation?
- There must have been four questions trying to get Paterno to comment on Tate Forcier's greatness as a freshman quarterback. Seriously, can't the Michigan reporters come up with anything else? Finally Joe took the bait and said Forcier reminded him of Tim Tebow, so get ready to read those articles the rest of the week.
- Joe mentioned he thinks the team has made "decent progress" in recent weeks.
- Says the tackles are going to have their hands full with Brandon Graham.
- Joe had no comment on Ohio State and Terrelle Pryor losing to Purdue. He claimed he didn't watch the game.
- When asked about the kickoff game he mentioned they haven't had many opportunities to return kicks due to the fact other teams haven't scored on them much. Then he added on he thinks their doing a good job.
- Joe is not in favor of kids enrolling in January of their senior year in high school. He thinks kids should enjoy their time in high school. But he understands kids want to do that because it gives them a better chance to play their freshman year. It's hard to resist the temptation to bring a kid in early.
- Chaz Powell wasn't thrilled with switching from defense last year, but he has adjusted well.
- Wallace got the start over Timmons last week because his height matched up better with Eric Decker. This week Joe is not sure who will start. (Interestingly, the possibility of Lynn not getting the start doesn't appear to be on the table. Safe to say that spot is locked down for the next two years.)
- They are preparing to see both Robinson and Forcier at quarterback.
- Some of you may recall the story of Elijah Robinson. He was an offensive lineman a few years ago who had to give up the game because he had an abnormally narrow spinal cord that left him susceptible to neck injuries. Apparently, Joe offered him a position as one of two Penn State graduate assistant coaches. I wasn't aware of this, but I think it's a great story. Joe says Robinson relates to the players well and has the makings of a fine football coach. Maybe they are grooming a replacement for Dick Anderson who has been rumored to be retiring soon?
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the summary gave me the impression joe was pretty sane the whole time
that’s almost a first this season…
We decide when you hear the snap count...
I don't know
I think the theory of “bulletin board material” is full of crap. So if we sit quietly and don’t say anything, the other team will lose because they aren’t mad enough at us?
Maybe I’m wrong, but I think the idea of “extra motivation” is crap. You’re either fired up and ready to play, ready to win every game in front of you… or you’re not.
Now, the environment can be more/less electric, the crowd can be louder, etc. etc. which does play a role, but I think Michigan wants to beat us plenty regardless of what is said or not said in a press conference.
by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 20, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions
I'm in the same boat
And I also don’t think Paterno’s comments are going to transform the Big House into Death Valley or Happy Valley night game. Michigan has been getting bagged on for a less-than-intimidating crowd for a long time. I don’t think one off-hand comment by JoePa in a presser is going to make the UM fans go bananas.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
I don't mind "bulletin board material" in this case
Because it’s the truth. Even their fans admit this.
"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr
by ReadingRambler on Oct 20, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Tate's bulletin board is full of...
1. Liza Minelli pictures
2. Flashdance album cover
3. Tips on how to do your best “jazz hands” (Whatever they are)
4. An autographed pic of Nathan Lane from the Birdcage
"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza
by NJ lion on Oct 20, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
About Tate
I hear he watches game film in a sequence dress given to him by Cher. Those crazy SoCal kids!
sequin dress. not sure what a sequence dress is, but i think it would look funny.
by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
-1
for using gay bars correctly AND using in plural form!
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 21, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
He reminds me of Tebow....
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….he’s like Tebow but virtually the complete opposite!
On the issue of who Joe did and did not recruit...
I think questions like that wander into sticky territory because coaches can’t mention high school athletes by name during the recruiting process. Maybe Joe was playing dumb on the topic rather than get into sketchy territory with the recruiting rules and whatnot. I doubt he meant it to disrespect Forcier in any way or provide bulletin board material to Michigan..
by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Oct 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
Eh
This is Joe Paterno’s craft. I would hope he knows the rules of recruiting by now.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
I'm sure he does
I’m sure he knows that he can talk about Forcier at this point, and that he remembers him well. There is just no reason for him to get into the conversation. What is he going to say?
You don’t want sound bites out there where you are running down a list of why a recruit would pick another school over yours. You don’t want follow up questions comparing Forcier and Newsome and who would have been his first choice. And you definitely don’t want questions regarding your son’s ability as a recruiter/position coach.
Playing the "I don’t remember" card is the easiest path there. He can leverage his age in a good way, basically to get out of a conversation he doesn’t want to have. For reference, check out RR’s comments on TP the week leading up to the OSU game, when reporters ask if they are glad he chose OSU. I expect that he will play the "let’s talk about the guys who play for Michigan" card, since he can’t get away with "I don’t think we recruited him."
by Wlvrn99 on Oct 21, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes Tate is a college player now...
but can Paterno discuss recruiting issues in regards to him before he was a college player? I honestly don’t know what the NCAA rules are on that… I guess the better question would be, why would Paterno want to discuss Forcier choosing UM over PSU anyway?
by Domin8ing the Big Ten(11) on Oct 21, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
He can pretty much say whatever he wants now. The second question is probably more apt for discussion, you’re right.
As for Forcier, maybe he really wasn’t that interested in going to PSU? Even if he did take an unofficial visit, maybe State College was too country for him too. Maybe he was just using the trip as leverage over Michigan. Who knows?
Piped-In Music
Anyone else notice the stadium crew has curtailed it a lot?
Awesome that they listened to fans’ displeasure.
I'm all for more band play during the game
but I hope that as the band gets more time, they start to update their playlist.
Have noticed
That started against EIU and it’s AWESOME.
by PSUMark2008 on Oct 21, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Elijah Robinson
Anyone with any more details? I don’t remember any of this.
"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza
Wow, May 2007...
0 comments on that story.
Now if you write about a blue & white dog turd there’s bound to be 112 comments (bad example, that would be almost like finding a picture of the crying Virgin Mary in the mist on you glass shower door).
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
If your dog craps a blue and white turd
not only does that thread deserve 100+ comments, it needs to be front paged.
Purdue vs. Ohio State
“He claimed he didn’t watch the game.” He watched it and was cheering just as loud as the rest of us.
That sly Paterno.
"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza
I hope he wasn't
It was a noon game, he better have been preparing for his own game.
Maybe he recorded it on a VHS tape and watched it later!
….you know JoePa doesn’t have a DVR at home!
WE ARE.......PENN STATE!
not if you feel like watching
a certain type of movie.
it ain’t disney.
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
I am embarrassed to admit this
but I do not have a DVR or TiVo and I have taped every game this year on VHS.
"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno
by Horse N Buggy on Oct 21, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd normally mock you, but you're Amish and a little slow, so it's OK
"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm probably going to get backlash from some TiVo diehards
but hear me out.
I can’t stand that stupid thing. My family (and by family I’m referring to the two females in the house) insists on watching every crappy show on television and recording it on TiVo. Zug forbid they miss one damn episode of Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, So you think you can dance, etc. etc. etc. It drives me absolutely crazy. So not only would I not be able to tape a PSU game on our TiVo’s, it would probably get vetoed or deleted when it conflicts with the setting my Mother and sister set up that tapes every single episode put on television of the shows they want to watch whenever aired, even though they’ve already seen the majority of them.
/end rant
It sounds to me like TiVo isn't the source of the problem...
"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr
by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
If you remove the TiVo, an entirely different set of problems will still appear due to the source of the TiVo problem
"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Kill Your Family!
Kill Your Family!
Everyone does.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Oct 22, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The pain..
My mother and sisters do the same exact thing. almost every single mainstream reality show in existence is recorded, repeat or not. So You Think You Can Dance, Cake Boss, Shear Genius, Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, America’s Next Top Model, Amazing Race, The Apprentice, The Bachelor, Trading Spouses, Supernanny, Survivor, Hell’s Kitchen, Project Runway, and I know I’m forgetting some. It’s mind numbing. But Rambler is right. Use TiVo right and it’s your ally. One day, if you get one of your own, you’ll love it.
by PSUisMyHeart on Oct 22, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
move out of the basement
maybe when you grow up and move out of mommies house you can save your pennies and get your own tivo
Other than the aforementioned "reality shows"
my Mom and sister are like Crack addicts for TLC shows. I guarantee there is “I can’t find my testicles” & Ungodly Bitch Plus 8 on the TiVo at home right now.
Nearly all growns up
Not long, Dawson, not long. Soon you will fly the flag of independence and your own personal new Tivo will unfurl itself to its full masculine majesty. Get yourself a 300Gb HD, and your Now Playing List will read like a Who’s Who of Man Shows. Want to check out the play of a freshman DT? Bam! PSU v Eastern Illnois, still recorded. Patience, son, and some last semester hard work, and soon Tivo will shine down upon you in all its glory.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
I hope so
But then again, maybe I’ll just actually watch the shows I want to watch when they’re actually on TV and not have to record every rerun of a show TiVo can find (aside from PSU games I might want to record and re-watch)
hadn't considered that
how novel.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
Don't get me started on Beta...
Damn Sony and their superiorly awesome proprietary consumer electronis failures
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
I'm all about the laserdisc
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
Curtis Dukes
Curtis Dukes seems really big for a running back. I talked to him on campus, and now I’m 6’, and he had at least 3 inches on me. even though the roster lists him at 6’ 1", I think he’s pushing a bit taller than that
He's massive
And he’s posted some scary track times for a guy his size. He could be quite scary for PSU in the future.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
Kind of like if we let Arrington play RB like he did in HS
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
Is it possible that Paterno confused the Forciers?
Because there’s like a 1000 of them and at least 2 played or are playing for Michigan right?
Also, on the big house being quiet… I think Joe detected that it was a “hype” question and Joe doesn’t like buying into the hype so he just down played it. when you entertain these questions you start losing focus of what’s a head of you. I know I’m sounding like him here, but all they have to think about is this saturday and not games from 10 years ago.
Frankly, the "Big House" isn't a scary place to play...
the design doesn’t hold any of the noise. Plus, Michigan has lost a ton of big games there (none to PSU since before I could drive) to the like of Oregon, Appy State, Utah, etc. I think Joe would have the same answer no matter the stadium.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 21, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions
Eh
I wouldn’t go as far to say that the Appy State game was a “big game.” Obviously, it ended up being a big game for both college football and the Michigan program as a whole, but that game was probably scheduled as an afterthought, a la Coastal Carolina.
by Bob Sacamano on Oct 21, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Michigan forgot something important
If you’re going to schedule an FCS team, schedule a bad FCS team.
"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
New Seats
I watched a Michigan game earlier in the seasons. The announcers said the addition of the new luxury boxes keeps the noise in and makes the stadium louder. So the noise level could be dramatically different then in the past.
the article that ramble linked to above
points out something important. It isn’t the stadium, they just have a relatively quiet crowd. As said by a Michigan man themself.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
it does pretty good
kepping in all the quiet.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Maybe, maybe not...
It was opening weekend in Carr’s, Henne’s and Hart’s last year. A team that had title hopes. They’ve lost other really big games there too – Colorado in 94, ND several times.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 21, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions
No real counter to the argument, eh?
"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
sniff? sniff?
You smell that?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
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