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Michigan Preview By The Numbers


Penn State

Value (Nat'l Rank)

Value (Nat'l Rank)

Michigan Wolverines

Advantage

Rushing Offense (ypg) 187.0 (25) 130.4 (58) Rushing Defense (ypg) Psulogo_medium
Passing Offense (ypg) 245.7 (31) 232.9 (80) Passing Defense (ypg) Psulogo_medium
Pass Efficiency 141.3 (32) 115.7 (38) Pass Efficiency Defense Push
Total Offense (ypg) 432.7 (19) 363.3 (64) Total Defense (ypg) Psulogo_medium
Scoring Offense (ppg) 29.6 (42) 21.9 (46) Scoring Defense (ppg) Push
Rushing Defense (ypg) 75.4 (6) 235.0 (8) Rushing Offense (ypg) Push
Passing Defense (ypg) 163.4 (14) 191.6 (86) Passing Offense (ypg) Psulogo_mediumPsulogo_medium
Pass Efficiency Defense 96.5 (12) 133.7 (54) Pass Efficiency Psulogo_medium
Total Defense (ypg) 238.9 (5) 426.6 (25) Total Offense (ypg) Push
Scoring Defense (ppg) 8.7 (2) 37.3 (9) Scoring Offense (ppg) Push
Net Punting Yds 34.2 (86) 8.0 (71) Punt Return Yds Push
Punt Return Yds 5.3 (95) 41.9 (2) Net Punting Yds   Michiganwolverines_mediumMichiganwolverines_mediumMichiganwolverines_medium
Kickoff Return Yds 15.4 (119) 22.9 (87) Kickoff Return Defense Michiganwolverines_medium
Kickoff Return Defense 22.7 (85) 23.8 (37) Kickoff Return Yds Michiganwolverines_medium
Turnover Margin -0.14 (67) -0.43 (88) Turnover Margin Push
Penalty Yds/Game 36.0 (5) 48.9  (36) Penalty Yds/Game Psulogo_medium
Sacks 3.00 (11) 1.57 (49) Sacks Allowed Psulogo_medium
Sacks Allowed 1.00 (16) 1.43 (86) Sacks Psulogo_mediumPsulogo_medium
Redzone Offense (%) 0.82 (67) 0.79 (47) Redzone Defense (%) Push
Redzone Defense (%) 0.62 (1) 0.79 (78) Redzone Offense (%) Psulogo_mediumPsulogo_mediumPsulogo_medium
Redzone TD % 0.64 0.38 Redzone TD % Defense Push
Redzone TD % Defense 0.31 0.68 Redzone TD % Push
3rd Down Conv. % 56.7 (3) 34.5 (34) 3rd Down Defense % Psulogo_medium
3rd Down Defense % 32.0 (21) 42.2 (44) 3rd Down Conv. % Push

Legend

Difference <25 in National Rank = Push

Difference >25 in National Rank = Psulogo_medium

Difference >50 in National Rank = Psulogo_mediumPsulogo_medium

Difference >75 in National Rank = Psulogo_mediumPsulogo_mediumPsulogo_medium

Differences >100 in National Rank = Psulogo_mediumPsulogo_mediumPsulogo_mediumPsulogo_medium

Note: The Redzone TD% and Redzone TD% Defense are calculated by me and not ranked by the NCAA. Determining who has the advantage in these categories is strictly my arbitrary judgement.

More analysis after the jump.

Star-divide

Best Matchup

The Michigan rushing attack against the Penn State rushing defense is the proverbial irresistible force against the immovable object. Something has to give. The cat-and-mouse game between Rodriguez and Bradley should be fun to watch. Watch how Penn State uses their defensive ends and linebackers to counter the zone read option play, and then look for Rodriguez to adjust. Whoever can keep ahead of the other team's adjustments should win the day.

Worst Matchup

Penn State sucks at returning kickoffs, and Michigan isn't very good at covering them. Something tells me Michigan's numbers will look better after this week.

Advantages for Michigan

Once again, Penn State will be at a disadvantage in special teams. Other than when Michigan is punting the ball, there is no huge advantage for the Wolverines. And frankly, if Michigan wants to exploit their advantage in punting the ball six times on Saturday I'm okay with that. If Michigan has to punt six times I like our chances.

I must say in doing this exercise I'm surprised by Michigan's offense. I honestly did not think they were that good, but there are the stats. They are 8th in the country in rushing, and lead the conference in scoring. They have played some pretty questionable defenses, but then Penn State has played some questionable offenses too.

Advantages for Penn State

The Michigan defense is not that great. Notre Dame picked their secondary apart, and Indiana rushed for almost 200 yards. A balanced offense like Penn State should be able to adjust to what the Wolverines are doing and move the ball. The question for Penn State will come in the redzone. They have struggled to score touchdowns once they march down the field. If they're settling for field goals they run the risk of letting Michigan hang around too long.

On defense it looks to me like Michigan might be a little one-dimensional. The rushing game is great, but the passing game is meh. Look for Penn State to stuff the box and force Michigan into some long yardage situations on 2nd and 3rd down. Odrick and Ogbu should stuff the middle of this offensive line pretty easily. The key will be with how Bradley uses the defensive ends and outside linebackers. This will be the toughest test yet for Jack Crawford, Jerome Hayes, and Eric Latimore. And getting Sean Lee back will be huge. If we have Lee on one side and Bowman on the other with Hull roaming the middle I'll feel good about Penn State's chances.

I think it's interesting to see Michigan struggling in the redzone like they are. It kind of lends itself to a theory I have about spread teams having difficulty finishing off drives down on the goal line when you have to get tough and punch it in. It may also mean that Rodriguez is a coach that likes to gamble and go for it a lot on fourth down in that territory. If that's the case, they're still not as good as Penn State at scoring touchdowns in the redzone. (BSD: DELETE! DELETE! Math error on my part made Michigan's numbers look worse than they actually are. I can't pull anything over on the readers anymore.)

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So can we count on the results of the special teams comparisons always being adorned in opposing colors from here on out?

If that’s the only part we give up to Michigan, I like the odds.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Oct 21, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much

I don’t mind being exploited on kickoff coverage and punt returns. It means we’re kicking off a lot and they are punting a lot.

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who are their returners?

Any burners with DWill capabilities? Or are we relegated to 40 yard line starting positions on all kickoffs?

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stonum and Odoms

Stonum is second in the conference averaging over 27 yds per return.

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hi, resident Michigan fan here.

Darryl Stonum is our kickoff returner, and has been very good. At current pace, he would statistically be the best kick returner in Michigan history based on yards per return. He housed one against Notre Dame, and had 3 returns over 40 yards against Indiana.

Our Punt Returner, likely, will be Greg Mathews, who doesn’t actually “return” anything. Most often, he will run from the ball like it has VD, and, failing that, will fair catch it. Michigan had severe issues with muffed catches last year, and Mathews’ greatest asset is not fumbling. We tried Tay Odoms there against DSU, and Odoms picked up some yardage (as he did in the role last year) but also demonstrated his limitations (not catching the ball).

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

by chitownblue on Oct 21, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The battle of the punt returners:

UM = run from the ball
PSU = DFC

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Oct 21, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best Matchup

Our Rush Defense vs. Their Rush Offense is indeed going to be interesting. Their Oline sizes:
71 Mark Ortmann | 6-7, 284, Sr., 3V
52 Stephen Schilling | 6-5, 304, Sr., 2V
50 David Molk | 6-2, 283, Jr., 1V
60 David Moosman | 6-5, 292, Sr., 3V
72 Mark Huyge | 6-4, 291, Jr., 1V

Not so massive, but agile and extremely fit. We’ll need our full Dline rotation this week. I loved that the past two weeks saw Jerome get a start and Jordan Hill get some real PT. If we can use Jerome, Crawford, Latimore and even Stanley to keep the DE’s fresh, and Ollie, Odrick, Still & Hill at DT, it will be a great help and fits more closely into vintage LJ Dline strategy.

Oh, and Sean Lee. He should probably help in run stuffing too.

Wow, I’m getting excited. Btw, this segment continues to gain value, obviously, as more meaningful data is generated.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sean Lee will be nasty.

I think he’s still juiced to be playing again. This game is a little bigger than Minney, so the adrenochrome will be pumping through him and Lavarro. I’m super upset I have to miss AT LEAST the first half because of a wedding. Here’s to hoping the reception site has a TV and that my relatives don’t mind waiting for the best man speech…

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 21, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

for sending me to the dictionary with adenochrome.

+1000 if you roll in late to the wedding and include Penn State updates in the Best Man Speech.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 21, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adrenochrome is a made up word. If you watch the film “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas” at one point Dr. Gonzo gives Duke some adrenochrome which is supposed to be akin to “chewing on an adreniline gland.” Hunter S. Thompson made the drug up, and didn’t have the heart to say anything when adoring fans told him they had wild trips on the drug.

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 21, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm, interesting

been on my reading list for years. Pop culture turns proper?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/adrenochrome

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 21, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Penn State updates will DEFINATELY be in the speech

The bride is a Penn Stater and my date/girlfriend/future misses is a Michigan grad (a rivalry the whole family is aware of). Unless we lose, the speech will end with the final score, just before we all cheers the newleyweds. I’ll see if I can get someone to tape it…

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 21, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Misery loves company

Gald to see I’m not the only one that’s praying for TV’s due to being at a wedding. At least there should be plenty of other Penn Staters.

by MGPardoePSU on Oct 21, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is it about the mighican game and weddings...?

I missed 2005 at one, and there have been several other postings about this (awful) phenomenon.

by psume06 on Oct 21, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I’ve got a friend’s wedding too – both PSU alumni… Thankfully it’s at a prominent location on campus that will certainly have the game playing somewhere. But, definitely frustrating

by PSUMark2008 on Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

everyone bride loves a fall wedding.....

unfortunately, fall weddings seem to be the preferred time amongst my g/f’s friends. neither the bride or groom in the weddings a PSU Alum’s but, I already know next fall, I’ll be making the trip back up to SC for another fall wedding…..

Don’t these people realize it’s football season!?

by MGPardoePSU on Oct 21, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this girl is not a fan of fall weddings...

i am not about to miss a football game for a wedding.

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Oct 21, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with Amanda. Get married in the summer

Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...

by letsgopsu on Oct 21, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or just avoid it all together, either way

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 22, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say it with me now

Bye Week.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

except this year

no bye wk this year.

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Oct 22, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michigan Advantage

Their biggest advantage is the officiating!!

"Size doesn't matter when you use the Force" - Yoda

by oldalumni on Oct 21, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sadly that's a stat we can't generate...

Just have to give them 5 M’s and leave it at that.

by psume06 on Oct 21, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess:

Excessive celebration on Jeremy Boone.

by Cairo on Oct 21, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or running into kicking the punter blocker on Jeremy Boone.

by psume06 on Oct 21, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember back in the 2002 game, the 3rd down play before Johnson’s sideline “catch”? The one that your receiver didn’t catch? That the refs gave you? No, I’m sure you don’t. Always blame on externalities that which you can’t accept. 10 straight wins didnt happen because of the refs, friend.

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

by chitownblue on Oct 21, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ball came out when he hit the ground. It was a catch. I’m not going to whine about it, but it was questionable. You shouldn’t put quote marks around “catch”. That play was not questionable. It was a catch.

All in the past, however.

"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr

by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go swim in lake Michigan, wolverine

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 22, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was nine straight.

Get your facts right before coming over here.

"Is that right?" Joe answered. "That’s not a problem. But you’ve got a problem. You don’t relate to me. And that’s a big problem."

by dmoney350z on Oct 22, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wind.

If the forecast holds up and it’s windy, the rushing matchups will be intriguing. I think PSU would win a run-dominated game barring any stupid turnovers or special teams mistakes.

by Cairo on Oct 21, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spread and goal line...

I find the comments interesting. Florida runs the spread and the last three years have been very good goaline. Of course they OMG Tebow. It is hard to run from the shotgun the closer you get to the goal line, it would seem.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 21, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Florida has their own goal ine package thing

The “TEBOW SMASH” formation. Just line up a fullback or two, keep Tebow close to the line, and SMASH. Quite effective.

It’s good for Meyer because it means he doesn’t have to use the bane of his existence: the under center snap.

"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr

by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes and the fact that Tebow

is built like a fullback allows him to run that type of offense near the goal line. What did Texas run near the goal line with Young? Did they put him under center?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 21, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe so

"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr

by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

I seem to recall they used to bunch everyone up on one side. Then VY would take the snap out of the gun and just race the LB to the pylon.

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The play that I remember was when Young tried to sneak it, fumbled it, and the Aggies took it for a touchdown.

"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr

by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does this chart look so good...

and yet I am still so damn scared?

We are not normal. We are legends.

by NittanyAlum02 on Oct 21, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chartaphobia

Rare, but can be deadly.

by speedomike on Oct 21, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

isn't it almost identical to the Minne one?

I’m pleased that Brandon Graham gave us more response material than Royster gave them…

by psume06 on Oct 21, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping to see Justin Brown back on punts last week

Astorino has not dropped one, but Brown would be a big improvement in our return game. Assuming he didn’t fumble.

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."

by psu on Oct 21, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sadly,

Astorino has rarely caught one either. The Minnesota punter gained about 50 yards in gross punting yardage thanks for Astorino and Royster being afraid to catch the punt and watching it roll… and roll… and roll.

by PSUFlyers on Oct 21, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would we bring in Newsome on Goalline?

I mean I know Clark is a runner but Newsome seems like a big running back. Sorta like a wildcat. I guess with his fumbles this is probably not a good idea but just a thought.

by jetskijoe on Oct 21, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no

we wouldn’t.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 21, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to be off topic here

Big 10 Network is replaying the Purdue-Ohio State game right now for those who enjoy a good schadenfreude with their lunch. I know someone had asked about when it might replay before.

Also, more on topic. I f**king hate Michigan. That is all.

by skarocksoi on Oct 21, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

X-Factor: Coaching, coaching, coaching, coaching

Just have this feeling we’re going to play really tight again unless we get one or two big yard plays early on. JoePa develops risk-aversion syndrome with big named programs and the only tricks he’s got are the vanilla variety executed repeatedly.

I would really like to know how he motivates his players for these games. If he’s not telling them about our dismal record, then what’s he telling them?

by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 21, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Umm, does he really *need* to motivate them with stories of past failures?

I think they already know those stories to heart.

"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr

by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, yes they do

Sometimes I think the coaches forget themselves. I want to see the HATE the way Cairo HATES.

by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 21, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My biggest fear is a turtle job..

by the coaching staff. We’ve seen it before.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 21, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let slip the dogs of war

Show the players that you trust them by opening up the playbook.
That would get them motivated.

by confirmy on Oct 21, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My fear is Brandon Graham vs Ako Poti

or whomever we run out there. I just hope this isn’t a mismatch that turns into a game-changer, such as the o-line vs Iowa or when PSU lost to Erasmus James a few years back.

by PSU Mudder on Oct 21, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Red Zone TD%

First off, I am a Michigan fan and I can’t wait for this Saturday..

And this post was quite interesting. But the red zone TD % numbers are wrong. I was curious because we are tied in the league for the fewest FGs (just 6 through 7 games) attempted, AND we lead the league in scoring. Our TD % is actually 68 (19 TDs in 28 trips to the red zone) . These are from the official Big 10 stats – http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/stats/2009-2010/confldrs.html

Also, I don’t think the spread makes it any harder to score TDs in the red zone. Especially when you have Minor RAGEing through a defense :) We managed to punch the ball in on the ground 3 times against an Iowa defense that hadn’t given up a rushing TD in 33 previous quarters…

But on the whole, pretty interesting post. Look forward to more through the rest of this week :)

by karth on Oct 21, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bah

you’re right. math error on my part. I forgot to include the passing touchdowns. I’ll fix it.

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

:)

Haha.. numbers are all we do. Have you been on MGo lately? :P

Haha.. numbers are all we do. Have you been on MGo lately? :PAlso, I think a better overall metric is points/red zone attempt? A TD and a missed XP should count less than a regular TD which in turn should count less than TD + 2 pt conversion. Points/trip covers pretty much covers all scenarios. Something to think about I guess..

by karth on Oct 21, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To each his own

The NCAA doesn’t break down the statistics that far. I had to figure the TD% on offense and defense by hand. In order for me to do as you suggest I would have to go back and look at every one of Michigan’s touchdowns this year to see how they handled the PAT. That’s more in depth than I care to go for this exercise.

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To add

I think just looking at TD% is sufficient. One trip that scores a TD is equal to two trips that score a FG. How you handle the PAT is often dictated by the game situation at the time. I don’t think that is a fair indication of how well the offense operates in a short field.

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree..

Currently the way the NCAA and the big ten logs things, it is almost impossible to figure this out. I just thought it would be an interesting metric to look at.
 
Also, for computing the percentages, I suggest using the link above. They actually break down the red zone numbers quite nicely. Just search for red zone on the page, its a little ways down.

@psujunny – well, that and Gary Sheffield threads in the past, and how-we-don’t-care-about-TP-but-we-do-enough-to-start-7-threads-a-day-about-him these days.. :) Also, my last post was complete commenting FAIL.

by karth on Oct 21, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was pulling your chain.

We do alot of that here. And everyone does. COMMENT FAIL. REPLY FAIL. Whatever.

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 21, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see what you did there

"Is that right?" Joe answered. "That’s not a problem. But you’ve got a problem. You don’t relate to me. And that’s a big problem."

by dmoney350z on Oct 21, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great analysis

It always seems to come down to a few plays one way or the other. It has been over 10 years since we last won in their house. I am picking us to win but I am a little worried that something will happen and we will run into some problem and loose the game.

Peter

by psuboy on Oct 21, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Turtling Up...

…I think a good deal of the “waiting for the other shoe to drop” mentality, as RUTS so eloquenty put it in his preview 2 years ago SHOULD have left with last year’s exorcism in Happy Valley where Joe opened the throttle up on them. That plus the mental boogeyman of Lloyd being gone…but then the step up may be cancelled out byt the 2 steps back of playing out in that house of horrors again (plus MI’s gulp return game advantage).

by JoePaMustStay on Oct 21, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And hopefully winning in Columbus last year...

gives the core confidence that it can win in places like Ann Arbor (note it didn’t help against Iowa last year).

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 21, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys have to give the COACHING edge

to dickRod. Everyone remembers this gem of play-calling against MSU this year:

fake punt w.i own 20

Meadville, PA born and raised.

by mikeissurreal on Oct 21, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"It was a bad read!"

"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr

by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

RR didn’t call that. That’s a play Zoltan calls if he sees the opponent lined up a certain way. After the play RR was furious with his punter for doing something like that deep in his own territory.

Still, he should have told his punter to not call that play in that situation.

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NFL

Yeah, well I watched the Chicago Bears (because of a bad call by the longsnapper) do the same this year on their own 30 – also an EPIC FAIL. So while its not just college kids making bone head plays, as much as I hate RR, its hard to pin that one on him.

We are not normal. We are legends.

by NittanyAlum02 on Oct 22, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TV Coverage

I know I posted a fanshot with the coverage map, but does anyone (MIKE?) know how to decipher which reverse mirror game I’ll be getting in Houston, TX?

For some reason ESPN didn’t issue an additional coverage map with the reverse mirror breakdown like they have in weeks past, so all I know for sure is that ABC will be covering the OU/Kansas crapfest leaving me with the possibility of getting stuck with Clemson/Miami or Oregon/Washington.

by cjapsu on Oct 21, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TV

If the game is not listed on ABC, it will be on ESPN

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick Tip

The 3:30 game with no Gameplan availability must be available in the entire country.
Three games are available in some markets, Penn State at Michigan is not.

by Aaron PSU on Oct 21, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent tip

I saw that and hoped for the best, but dreaded the possibility of getting Clemson/Miami since we’re down south.

by cjapsu on Oct 21, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn you

I guess I’m going to have to research this tonight and alert the masses if there is a problem. If I have to pay to see PSU play Michigan in Texas I’ll be pissed. They did this to me twice last year.

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if Aaron's tip is correct

we’ll get PSU/UM in Texas. Clemson/Miami, Oregon/Wash., and OU/Kansas are all available on Gameplan according to ESPN. PSU/UM is NOT.

by cjapsu on Oct 21, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My fault for the double negative

NOT being on Gameplan means that the PSU-UM game IS available everywhere on either ABC or ESPN, as seen here:

by Aaron PSU on Oct 21, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome, thanks!

I couldn’t find that second map ANYWHERE.

by cjapsu on Oct 21, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless the TX-OU game runs late and they start on ESPN then cut to ABC in the middle of a play

Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...

by letsgopsu on Oct 21, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Friggin Billy Martin

Why would he go announce his retirement now? Three days before the PSU game? Now all the Michigan bloggers want to talk about is who will replace him. Tomorrow they’ll probably be putting up Billy Martin montages. Who are we supposed to spar with this week?

by BSD on Oct 21, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pistols at dawn.

We don’t really give a shit who our AD is.

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

by chitownblue on Oct 21, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm your huckleberry

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 22, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m afraid the strain was too much for him to bare.

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

should I hate him?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 22, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't even know him.

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I really hate him.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 22, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he died years ago.

Working for George Steinbrenner and UM? That man must have nine lives.

by Cairo on Oct 22, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oregon St.-USC

Darn it, I don’t WANT to watch Texas blow out Missouri. I used to live in LA and though I bleed white and blue I still stay interested in USC, and that game actually has the revenge factor for USC.

by jjl207 on Oct 21, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This makes it simple

Just score on every possession, force them to 3 and out and fair catch their punts.

Peter

by psuboy on Oct 22, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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