Malicious Internet Interrogation With Maize-n-Brew
It's Michigan week, so you know what that means. Five days of listening to talk about "streaks" and "WE PWN PENN STATE". As always, we reached out to a Michigan blogger to come sit on the BSD hotseat, and this week our Huckleberry is Dave from Maize-n-Brew. Enjoy, and go check out Maize-n-Brew where I'll answer some questions for Dave later on.
Things started out hot for Rich's boys with that win over Notre Dame. But now they're 1-2 and almost 0-3 in conference play. How has Michigan's season compared to your expectations so far?
Not to toot my own horn too loudly, but the team is exactly where I saw it being. 5-2 heading into the Penn State game. I think the biggest challenge for Michigan fans this season hasn't been getting on the bandwagon, it's been tempering expectations. All of a sudden we've got this score-o-matic offense, and we don't know what to do with ourselves. The offense has been so good we've been willing to say "we'll outscore [the other team]" in every game, totally forgetting that our defense is just as bad as we feared it'd be going into the season. Overall, I think the coaching has been excellent. GERG has fashioned a mediocre defense out of three players (Brandon Graham, Donovan Warren, and Mike Martin), duck tape, and styrofoam. Honestly, I thought the D would be much, much worse than it's performed. Offensively, we're light years ahead of last year, but still in that learning phase. There are still a lot of mistakes on offense and the passing game went backwards the last two games. The offense is better than I thought it'd be, but the team itself is right where I predicted.
Against Iowa, Rodriguez benched Tate Forcier in favor of Denard Robinson and it looked like Forcier wasn't too happy about it. Last week against Delaware State Forcier only played one series. Is there a quarterback controversy brewing?
Mike, when did you start writing for the Detroit Free Press? There is no controversy. Forcier is the starter and got benched at the end of the Iowa game because he was awful. I completely disagree with everyone who bitched and moaned that Forcier should've been back in the game for the last series against Iowa. No. He shouldn't have. Tate was banged up. He was clearly rattled. He had a mild concussion. He was making very, very bad decisions and should've left that game with at least three picks. He needed to be benched at that point. But here's the thing...
He's a freshman. They make mistakes. Look at Tebow, McCoy, Bradford, Henne, Young, or Troy Smith. I'm not comparing Tate to these guys, but I'm naming them to prove a point. As freshmen these uber-quarterbacks made game-costing mistakes. Why? Becuase they're freshmen. Matt Barkley's going to gack one up shortly too. A benching is part of the learning curve and I expect Tate to play much better at home than under the lights at Kinnick. Kinnick does strange things to visiting quarterbacks.. cough... Daryll Clark.... cough.... So, there's really nothing to read into Tate sitting. He needed a week to rest his shoulder. Frankly, Robinson needed the reps because if Tate goes down, Denard's gotta go in. Unless Robinson suddenly, and unexpectedly, becomes a polished passer he's going to be used in a back-up and change of pace role. Tate is the unquestioned starter.Last year's game between these teams introduced MINOR RAGE into our vocabulary. But Brandon Minor has been banged up off and on this year. Is he healthy for this game? And are there any other injuries of note?
Minor should start this game and is, by all accounts, as healthy as he's been since fall camp started. Sitting the last few games and limited practice has allowed his injured ankle to heal (at least Michigan fans hope so). That's good news for us, bad for you. Against Iowa, Minor had plenty of power and steamrolled several Hawkeye defenders en route to an excellent, yet limited game. As with all ankle injuries, you're fine until you have to make a cut. That was the big difference two weeks ago, he couldn't really do that. Two more weeks to heal? I think he'll be cutting fine and will be one of the keys to the game. Likewise, Carlos Brown should be back in the backfield along side Minor. Brown suffered a concussion in practice two weeks ago and should be fine for Saturday's game. Another huge return will be Center David Molk, who has been ouot since the Indiana game after suffering a broken foot against EMU. Molk is the heart and soul of our offensive line, so if he's able to play, it'll be a huge boost for the team. The downside is he's had a week to practice, so he might not be at 100%. On the defensive side of the ball, Michigan will again be without sophomore cornerback Boubacar Cissoko who has been suspended indefinitely for various violations of team rules (including academics). Rodrgiuez has said that the team is monitoring Cissoko, and it is up to him whether he's going to put in the work to get back on the field.
That Michigan defense...I dunno, man. They made Jimmy Clausen look like a Heisman contender. And Indiana rushed for almost 200 yards. Is it Greg Robinson and the coaching scheme? Is it an issue of talent level? Is it injuries? What does Michigan have to do to get better?
It's a talent issue. Michigan is simply barren at linebacker and empty in the secondary after Warren. Personally, as stated previously, I think GERG has done an excellent job with this group. Look at the defensive line. I thought we were toast at DT after Mike Martin, and GERG has turned Greg Banks and Renaldo Sagesse into prominent contributors. Look at Stevie Brown, a year removed from being the player most likely to allow a 70 yard touchdown, he's our best linebacker and should at least get consideration for All Big Ten Honorable mention. Michigan's defense plays very hard and is very young, but the youth in the secondary and the constant stream of mistakes out of veterans Obi Ezeh and Jonas Mouton (who really, really should be better than he's playing and I can't figure out why he isn't) at linebacker are consistenly breaking down on third and long. Hence, the issues on D. If you're looking for an achilles, it's linebackers or safeties covering Tight Ends. Iowa smoked us on that. Coverage on the play fake or the TE going into the flats has been terrible, and it's just a reaction thing. The players have to identify that better and simply haven't. Better players over the next few years will fix that, but it's something Michigan fans just have to deal with this season and next.
I'm assuming you've watched a Penn State game or two this year. Where do you think the Wolverines can exploit them?
You know, I'm not really sure on this one. I feel the Penn State secondary isn't quite up to snuff and the DE's are a tad weaker than they've been in recent years. Plus, if Sean Lee's out this week, bonus. In the running game I think Michigan has to attack the edges quickly and someone has to get out on Bowman immediately. Michigan possesses a quick, strong and athletic offensive line, so I think they can attack the edges with the read option. Up the gut? Not so much. I was very impressed by PSU's Defensive Tackles. In the passing game, I see a lot of Tight End Kevin Koger both as a viable pass option and as a decoy. Of the linebacking group, I'm not sure who will be covering him. But with Koger in the pattern or as a decoy/blocker it means one less linebacker at the edge to deal with. I think Koger is probably the #2 or #3 TE in the conference pass catching and blocking, so he'll play a big role. Next, look for Stonum and Hemingway to get deep on Penn State's corners and safeties. That'll open things up in the middle and may, by themselves, be open for some deep bombs.
I'm sure you're wondering why I haven't said "w00t we'llz 0wnz0rz da PSU Offensive Line!" Well, our pass rush hasn't been great outside of Brandon Graham and teams have been running very, very well against us. So, I think that match up is a push.
On the flip side, what scares you to death about this Penn State team?
The Linebackers, the Defensive Tackles and Evan Royster. Really. I've never been a big fan of Daryll Clark's. Mostly because he's shown a propensity for gacking up games against good competition. Interceptions. Fumbles. Bad reads. But Royster scares the shit out of me. On defense, Michigan's running game depends on neutralizing the center of the Defensive front and getting to the backers. I just don't see that happening consistently against Bowman and company. We'll have some great gainers, but I'll be surprised if Michigan can do it consistently.
Care to make a prediction? The Nittany Lions of BSD could use some red meat.
mmmmm..... red meat..... That makes me hungry. Think I'll order a cheese steak from Mr. Spots with chili cheese fries. mmmmmm..... What were we talking about? Oh yeah. Predictions. Back in May I predicted this one to be a Penn State victory. On paper, it should be. But Michigan's glorified scrimage against Delaware State gave the Wolverines an extra week of practice and allowed their starters to get healthy. Something Michigan was not able to do in previous years. I still hate the concept of a D1-AA opponent anywhere on the schedule, but the timing of the "bye" is really beneficial to Michigan this year. I think Michigan wins this in a close game. I could be wrong, probably am, but a year removed from 3-9 and sitting at 5-2, I'm playing with house money.
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I think our secondary is fine until further notice
Especially with It being a so-so passer and Robinson being a poor passer.
The biggest test is for the ends. And Sean Lee’s traitorous knee.
"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think our safeties are kind of meh.
But otherwise, they’ve come together rather well. It’s amazing that Decker didn’t take that one big catch to the end zone, because our safeties took awful angles.
by Run Up The Score on Oct 22, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Safeties
Have you not watched a game this year? Sukey is the biggest liability on that team. Decker’s catch!! Iowa blocked punt!! Any long throw as been at Sukey, he sucks bad!
JoePa in '09
by JGuiher on Oct 22, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sukay should never have been on that blocked punt
The personnell was wrong on that, it should have at least been an LB plugging that hole.
He’s coming off not playing or practicing for his first 2 years of college ball. He’s played well enough in my mind, considering where this secondary could have been. He’s not a world beater, but a liability is a stretch.
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by psuphiman80 on Oct 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blocked Punt
That was not Sukay’s fault. Bani was supposed to double-team with Sukay but instead he broke off for kick coverage. Decker had one catch. Our secondary is fine.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." -Joe Paterno
by TheGunslinger on Oct 22, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i don't understand all this secondary hate
did we not just shut eric decker? give us a little bit of credit…
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Oct 22, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secondary Hate
I understand where it’s coming from. It stems from the Rose Bowl game where the secondary was torched by Mark Sanchez. We then talked about it for 8-9 months until the next game was played against a real opponent and we got it stuck in our heads that the secondary was a major concern, when really looking back over the course of two seasons the secondary has basically played one bad game. It’s tough to get those offseason perceptions out of your head.
by catesinator on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WHAT ?
“Especially with It being a so-so passer” ….
I realize that most PSU fans haven’t watch TF play much … but this kid is as good as ANY freshman QB in the country. And his arm is plenty strong and his ability to throw on the run is incredible. He was injured during the Indiana game (it was obvious) – but he continued to play despite the injury …. resulting in poor performances against MSU & Iowa. He now says that he can finally snap his throws again … which hopefully, from my selfish POV, means you will get to see him at 100%. Oh and if you blitz ,zero cover …. well ask ND as he went 31 yards untouched and outran the secondary. Healthy – he is a true dual threat type of QB which the B10 has rarely ever seen.
I am SO HAPPY to have this so – so QB for the next 3 years !!!
by Indiana Blue on Oct 22, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you contain him in the pocket, his incredible passing goes down quite a few notches.
"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for your last sentence, I never said he wouldn’t improve, did I?
"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's as good as you say he is
then I say he’s more cocky than he is good.
If you think, for one second, that you’ll have him for three more years, you’re going to be a very sad man after next season.
by AdamShell on Oct 23, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see the hype machine has been turned up to 11...
Even if he’s THE best freshman QB in the country, he’s still a freshman QB, and those haven’t fared well against Penn State defenses in the recent past. Clausen, Pryor, etc. 31 yards untouched against ND is great, but Penn State’s defense plays tackle football.
So 6 games into his career, you’re saying TF is a dual threat type of QB the likes of which the conference has rarely ever seen? So far he has amassed 180 yards rushing on 3.0 YPC. I noticed he also has 2 punts and a solo tackle…we better get ready to rename the Jim Thorpe award.
by jimbo2psu on Oct 23, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this kid pooch punts like a heisman candidate!!
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Oct 23, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh
I remember us having a young QB that we thought would be legendary after some early heroics in his career. But then he took hit…after hit…after hit…got himself a bum shoulder, and never realized that dream we all had for him at the beginning. At the end of his career, he was more or less a punching bag for option plays.
I see Tate Forcier ending up much like our own beloved Zach Mills. The kid is halfway into his season and already has a beat up shoulder AND a concussion. He’s got a loooong 3 and a half years ahead of him, especially at a buck seventy in weight.
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by 06Lion on Oct 23, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on Clark
I love him as a leader of this team, but he scares me every time he drops back. I know, I should probably have more faith, but he’s annoyingly inconsistent, he’ll make a perfect throw with perfect fundamentals and then lock in to a receiver on the next pass, then rush it, and throw it into the ground. But good ole steady Evan, I love that guy.
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by PSUdevon on Oct 22, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clark scares you?
How did you make it through the Morelli years without your head exploding?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 22, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness
I really didn’t. I wasn’t a big PSU fan until about October of 2007 (not coincidentally, once I was accepted), and though I’ve always been a big college football fan, my teams were…don’t kill me…Syracuse, along with Ohio State and/or Notre Dame. And I have my reasons for rooting for both teams, but as much as I knew Penn State, I didn’t live and die with them.
NittanyWhiteOut.com. Arguably the second best Penn State blog I know of.
by PSUdevon on Oct 22, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Clark scares you,
be glad you weren’t here for any of the years between Kerry Collins and, well, now.
Of every QB we’ve had, McQueary/Thompson/Casey/Senneca/Mills/Robinson/Morelli, Darrell Clark scares me the least when he drops back to throw.
by jtw126 on Oct 22, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Addendum...
Wally Richardson didn’t scare me when he threw. Wally was good stuff, totally underrated in the PSU QB history discussion, IMO.
by jtw126 on Oct 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man.
Not even close to concerned about Clark. His errors are always away from trouble unless there are gale force winds. I’d rank them this way from ’97.
Robinson in ‘05
Clark
McQueary
Mills in ’01-’02
Thompson
Casey
Morelli
Mills in ‘03-’04
Robinson in ’04
the center snapping the ball into open air
Senneca
by Cairo on Oct 22, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young Mills was better than McQueary
Or maybe my memory fails me.
"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're talking about pure passing ability
Clark is BY FAR the best on the list. If you’re talking about everything that goes into being a QB (intangibles like leadership and the will to win no matter what) than I definitely agree w/ MRob ’05 on top. Also, I agree w/ Rambler that Young Mills is better than McQueary.
by PSUMark2008 on Oct 22, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young Mills
Was supposed to bring the Hiesman to happy valley if I remember correctly.
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"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Oct 23, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clark gacks in big games?
Which games? As far as I know, as a starter, Clark has lost to Iowa twice, and USC once. You could hardly pin USC on him. I blame playcalling for Iowa this year. Clark did play poorly in that game though. Still, he has been a good college QB with the record and stats to back that up.
Also, did anyone watch the Wisconsin game last year? Clark doesn’t take over every game, or will his team to victory consistently, but he is due for a big game, and his play and stats are solid when not playing a Iowa.
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by Captain Hairdo on Oct 23, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Clark has had 2 bad games, both against Iowa. He bounced back fine against Illinois and Minnesota just as he did last year after the Iowa loss by playing well against IU and MSU. I’m not concerned about him at all. Clark is the best QB I’ve seen at PSU since Collins and the only guy outside of Kerry I would think that has a prayer of making it in the NFL as a QB. And no Kevin Thompson doesn’t count.
by catesinator on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wally was drafted...
….and spent several seasons on an NFL roster
maybe didn’t “make it” as an NFL starter,but gotta give him some props
by hbeach08 on Oct 23, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he did play in the XFL too
I totally give him props for that
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Oct 23, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the time of publishing, expecting 49F, 14 MPH wind, 50% chance of rain. Lee being healthy is really important if it’s a trench game.
BSD
by Kevin HD on Oct 22, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GERG
Mike, did you do a find and replace edit after he sent you his answers, chaning every instance of “Greg” or “Robinson” or “Greg Robinson” to “GERG” or is that how they refer to the best defensive coordinator too?
by PSUJunny05 on Oct 22, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's all him
I originally said GERG in my question about the defense, but I changed it to Greg Robinson before I sent it to him. I was afraid some people who haven’t read Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician the past few years might not get the joke.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 22, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Are you hungry for pancakes?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Oct 22, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough call
I went with waffles last weekend and they were magnificent. Chocolate chip waffles topped with bananas and powdered sugar.
by speedomike on Oct 23, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm…pancakes….
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 23, 2009 7:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The House
Would like its money back.
3:30, bring your rage.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Oct 22, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OH SH*T! THE GAME'S THIS WEEKEND?
I guess we should start preparing, eh Brandon?
by PSUJunny05 on Oct 22, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike!
He cussed in one of his responses! Ban hammer!!
by STU Boy on Oct 23, 2009 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
for those that mentioned Wally Richardson, I loved watching him play as a student in ‘95-’96.
Clark will be fine. You have to remember that the reason last year’s games vs. OrSt, Wisconsin, and MSU weren’t close was because of the superb play of DC17.
by Joe 96alum on Oct 23, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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