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Michigan offensive lineman Mark Ortmann (71) watches as quarterback Tate Forcier (5) is hit by Eastern Michigan linebacker Neal Howey (40) and defensive tackle Javon Reese (90) during the second half of an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Sept. 19, 2009, in Ann Arbor, Mich. Forcier was helped off the field but returned to the game in No. 25 Michigan's 45-17 win. (AP Photo/Tony Ding)

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2 months ago: Michigan offensive lineman Mark Ortmann (71) watches as quarterback Tate Forcier (5) is hit by Eastern Michigan linebacker Neal Howey (40) and defensive tackle Javon Reese (90) during the second half of an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Sept. 19, 2009, in Ann Arbor, Mich. Forcier was helped off the field but returned to the game in No. 25 Michigan's 45-17 win. (AP Photo/Tony Ding)


It's Michigan week. It's your BSD staff predictions. You know the drill.

RUTS Says...

Brain says Penn State, heart says Michigan.  Looking at the Wolverines, their defense seems poorly equipped to handle Penn State's attack.  You know, other than the fact that Brandon Graham is lining up against our 3rd team offensive right tackle.  There's that.  Still, their linebackers are prone to jumping on play-action fakes and the secondary isn't great.  If Penn State can move the ball on the ground with any sort of competence, Clark could conceivably turn that into a big day (in fact, both teams have significant issues at both safety positions).  It'll be up to the interior group of Eliades, Wisniewski, and Troutman to open up holes.  Eliades looked downright menacing pulling around the line and leading Royster against Minnesota. 
 
Defensively for Penn State, there's bad news.  Tate Forcier may be a mistake-prone freshman, but he's still not Nick Sheridan.  He played poorly against Iowa and became rather skittish under pressure.  If Penn State can get to him, he'll turn it over.  Odrick and Ogbu will be their usual disruptive selves, but what will PSU get from the edge?  Denard Robinson is a concern, naturally, but Penn State tends to be rather disciplined on defense.  Dynamic and surprising?  No, but disciplined.
 
But it's Michigan, and Michigan Means Puckering from the coaching staff.  Even when Penn State has a clearly superior team, like last year, it's a horrific struggle.  This is not a clearly superior Penn State team, but it's good enough to be a 4 1/2 point favorite on the road.  They're a bad matchup for Michigan, save the obvious Graham v. Poti battle.  Insert kicking game caveat (I'll be shocked if Michigan doesn't score or set up an easy touchdown on a kick return) and crackpot officiating conspiracy theory here (however, if I see Dave Witvoet's face, all bets really are off and I'll spend Saturday afternoon in the fetal position if Penn State leads by any less than 20 points). 
 
Like it or not, this game goes down to the wire.  I will not be remotely surprised if Penn State loses.
 
Prediction: Penn State 21, Michigan 20


Star-divide

BSD Mike Says...

If you've been paying attention around the interwebs, this preview shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

On paper, I don't see any reason why Penn State should lose this game. They have better talent, more depth, more experience, and I would even say better coaching. But, it's Michigan, where officials don't seem to give us any calls. It's Ann Arbor, where Nittany Lion dreams go to die. So that has me scared.

I think the Penn State front seven should be able to contain the Michigan running game. On his podcast, Brian asked me how confident I was in this and I mentioned this isn't the first zone read option team Penn State has played and I pointed to Illinois as an example. Brian, perhaps rightfully so, kind of scoffed at the remark suggesting Illinois is not a true test. This is true since I think Michigan has more athleticism at running back and Forcier is a better passer than Juice Williams. But I should have expanded my statement to say this is a very experienced front seven for Penn State. Guys like Navorro Bowman, Josh Hull, Sean Lee, Jared Odrick, and Ollie Ogbu have been the anchor of the defense for three years now. These guys have been around the block. They know the drill by now. They will not be fooled.

But the defensive ends are another story. Jack Crawford, Jerome Hayes, and Eric Latimore do not have a lot of experience. How well they keep up with Rich Rodriguez's cat-and-mouse game will determine how well Penn State contains the Michigan offense.

When Penn State is on offense I believe they have the balance to take advantage of what Michigan gives them. I think the Wolverines will try to take away the running game by stacking the box and hope they can force Daryll Clark into making some turnovers. This could open up some big plays to Chaz Powell and Derek Moye off of play action. And after our discussion with Maize-n-Brew this week where he mentioned their weakness in covering tight ends, I'm interested to see if Andrew Quarless can have a big day.

The wildcard in all of this will be Joe Paterno. Will he allow the offense to open up the playbook? Will he let the Tom Bradley defense attack the freshman quarterback? Or will he pucker up at the first sign of trouble and hope to hang on for a 13-10 win like he did in 2007? I have a good feeling about this game, but I think it will be closer than we all care for it to be.

Prediction: Penn State 27, Michigan 24

 

KevinHD Says...

The general feeling is uneasiness, and I’ve been trying to figure out all week if that is the reality of the situation or just the annual lead up to the Michigan game.  The 2002 and 2005 games will die hard.

But it’s important to be levelheaded here.  The defense has been playing lights out, seven games in and not a single first half touchdown. Yeah?  Well Rittenberg has your Debbie Downer right here:

We've seen Penn State rise to No. 2 nationally in scoring defense (8.7 ppg) despite facing no FBS offense ranked higher than 79th.

Michigan, on the other hand, is second in both rushing and passing yards per attempt in the Big Ten, although helped by 700-something total yards against one of the worst teams they are eligible to play against.  But it wasn’t just Delaware State that showed up to play Michigan with a sub-part defense.  The average rank of the D1-A defenses they’ve faced is 68; that includes two teams at 100+.

Basically, something has to give.  Either Penn State can’t continue to dominate on defense or Michigan’s two thousand percent year over year increase (rounding) in offense will come to a halt.  Vegas (47.5 o/u, PSU -4.5) is effectively predicting Michigan to hit around 21 points, which would be a season low for them.

So to run with this scientifically questionable analysis: can Penn State score more than 21 points?  I suspect a slow start but persistent ground game will get them there.  Super-soft cover-3 keeps Michigan in it in the 4th, but I remain cautiously optimistic.

Prediction: Penn State 34, Michigan 24

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I guess I'll be confident guy.

PSU – 49
UM – 17

Graham gets his token sacks and the kickoff game is atrocious again. However, Clark, Royster and the boys get it done on offense and the defense manhandles the UM offense. Tate plays the entire second half from his backside and “Shoelaces” gets Bowman’d. UM scores 14 points in the last :02, but its not enough.

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 23, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

You guys rely too much on history and the stinkbomb teams of the last ten years (except for 2005 and 2008).

We got DC, Royster, Chaz, Zug, and Moye Moye to make things happen despite our O – Line, who by the way, should be coming along and be able to handle the Wolverine D.

PSU – 35
UM – 13

by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 23, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

While I'd be thrilled if we Wisconsin'ed Michigan

Somehow I don’t think they’re going to go no holds barred on Michigan in the big house. I could, and hope I’m wrong though.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 24, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PSU – 28
UM – 21

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is one of those games that rips my heart and brain to shreds as RUTS indicated...

After UM’s terrible start in 2007, I thought we could handle them by spreading their defense. I mean they were just getting clobbered by teams with an offensive pulse. Our game plan that day SUCKED. I mean its not like we needed QB14 to throw 80 yard bombs on first down…but dinking and dunking them down the field would have been fine.

I really hope that Joe trusts Clark on Saturday to stick with the game plan…and that the game plan doesn’t consist of waiting for the defense to grab some TO’s.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 23, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But if you think back to 2007

It was really the turnovers that killed us. I seem to remember the Hunt fumble at midfield in the first half and that came on the heels of the Morelli debacle/scramble/fumble. If Hunt holds onto the ball and we go down and score points on that drive, that game could have been different. Also, didn’t Austin Scott put the ball on the grounds inside the Michigan 10 yard line? As conservative as that gameplan was, it could have worked had we not turned the ball over.

by Spats on Oct 23, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah - damn, I guess it was Scott both times.

Wow, DayQuil/NyQuil induced haze is really affecting memory.

by Spats on Oct 23, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check that again -

I guess Scott only fumbled once. Games, years, players running together. NyQuil’s a powerful drug.

by Spats on Oct 23, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

it was a Scott fumble inside the UM 10 and a Morelli fumble inside the PSU 20. Or the other way around.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 23, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

Morelli’s fumble set up the first Mich TD. Scott fumbled going in.

I guess I was thinking of the Hunt fumble near midfield in 2005.

by Spats on Oct 23, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Morelli fumble

That was the play of the game. Brandon Graham on the hit, from what I remember.

by Wlvrn99 on Oct 23, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about? Girls love Mr. Toad's Wild Ride

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's an easy +1

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Oct 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoops....

turnovers ultimately did us in…but the conservative approach presented a lack of opportunities.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 23, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This game gives me an uneasy feeling also

The streak isn’t forgotten with 1 win. I think Michigan and that streak is still in the back of the minds of the entire Nittany Nation. Especially considering the way we crapped the bed in the 1st half last year. This Michigan squad is a little better than last year so if they come out with a gameplan that exploits us on defense then we’ll be in trouble. We’re the better team and I hope that we show it on Saturday.

I won’t feel good about this game until the last whistle blows and the scoreboard has us ahead. I don’t care what the score is as long as we win.

by RNF18 on Oct 23, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to go, now they are going to prepare.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I won’t feel good about this game until the last whistle blows and the scoreboard has us ahead."

You have to wait longer than that. In 2005 I watched the clock tick down and then jumped for joy because I knew better and waited for 0:00 to ever be happy about a game. Now I can’t even do that.

That is why I HATE Michigan and will NEVER forgive and forget. F them.

There’s not much I can add to this game that hasn’t been said by more knowledgeable people already. I will say this: Our D line is nasty and should slow down all that option nonsense.

HEADLINE NEWS!!! I just got a job!!! I won’t be homeless for Christmas!!!! YESSSS!!!!

Ok, let’s just see a big road win this weekend and keep the party rollin’!

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

congrats sir.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 23, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

:)

It’s been since 8/1. Enough about me but thanks I JUST heard in the middle of that post

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, jobs are awesome

I love knowing that I am being paid while I read BSD at work.

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 23, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 23, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

soon I'll be working 60+ hours a week

and every moment I can spend here will be a luxury. That’s better than the total overdose I’ve had lately. Too much of a good thing is not good.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you must be one of the freshly-barred atty's?

Glad to hear you pulled something. I’m putzing around in 3L year clueless… but I don’t feel as bad as the grads still doing the same thing with no end in sight.

by psume06 on Oct 23, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CPA actually. Not too much difference

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm doing it right now!

Isn’t life grand! I think later on today I’ll go over to the watercooler and talk about the ALCS with some of my buddies. :-)

by RNF18 on Oct 23, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Die Evil Empire Die!

As a lifelong Angels fan that game last night tested my sanity. Live to fight another day.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 23, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope it goes 7 games either way

As a Phils fan I want to see the Phils set their rotation and have either the Angels or the Yanks come into the series with their rotation out of order.

by RNF18 on Oct 23, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dreams....only dreams Angel and Phillie fans!

Saturday is an all around great day for sports! PSU wins by 17 and Andy Pettitte puts the Angels away Saturday night in the Brox. Phils better get ready to see CC in the Bronx!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?

by pic15 on Oct 23, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC SaPWNDthia

Or soemthing

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 23, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um

You do realize that the two seconds were not put back on the clock after it hit 0:00, right? I swear, within 10 years, PSU fans will be telling me that they left the stadium ahead that day, only to have UM run a play against 11 random PSU fans pulled out of the stands for the win. Oh, and thanks to Joe for having his own 2 seconds added to the clock w/approx 3 minutes left. That came in handy.

Congrats on the job.

by Wlvrn99 on Oct 23, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget about your generous ball spots...

and no I don’t mean that in the sexual way.

Your alumni association was so gracious, our Defensive coordinator got whistled because he complained about the atrocities.

But don’t worry, I don’t plan on wearing my tinfoil hat this saturday.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 23, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand this Paterno thing that Brian broght up yesterday and the mgobots are spreading around.

Here is what matters: Did Carr deserve 2 second? Was there a legit reason for him to get them?

And same for Paterno: did the clock guy mess up and owe the board two seconds? Or not?

The question is not what coach asked for what, the question is “were they right to add these four seconds?”

I don’t even really want an answer because 4 years later I finally don’t care, but if you’re going to talk about too at least bring up relevant points.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 23, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

The game clock operator was very slow to stop the clock after the ref’s signal. Both Paterno and Carr, had good cases. In fact, if you watch the replay of the last UM drive (it is a lot of fun, believe me), each play seemed to have a second or two tick off that shouldn’t have. And no way Henne throws short of the end zone if there were only 3 seconds or whatever on the clock for the second to last play. So, short answer, the clock issues had no impact on PSU winning/losing.

Brian’s/my point is to counter the “Lloyd had the refs add 2 seconds” bit, since Paterno set the precedent a couple minutes earlier. I was at the game, and I think the big issue was that Paterno’s 2 seconds were added during a tv timeout, so the only annoucement you heard on the broadcast were the Carr 2. Walking out of the game, I actually had conversations w/several PSU fans along the lines of “finally there is nothing you guys can complain about wrt the refs.” Guess you had to be there.

by Wlvrn99 on Oct 23, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was there, and I had a lot to complain about

but after watching the drive afterwards I didn’t have much. I don’t recall during the game Paterno getting 2 seconds, but I’ve seen it pointed out since. I also recall a questionable catch around the 5 yard line (or was it whether or not he got out of bounds…I honestly don’t care anymore, because looking back I was wrong).

But coming out of the game, I sure as hell had a lot to complain about ;-)

by The JuggerNitt on Oct 23, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also was there.

And I don’t know how you could rewatch that last drive.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 23, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Avant's foot was clearly out

and that was always what’s troubled me most.

I’m not going to argue with an esteemed coach getting 0:02 back. Either way, make the play, and make the plays in the first 59:00 of the game so that you’re not reliant on things that happen in the last minute.

by InScoresOfOtherGames on Oct 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The worst place to be is at the game

They don’t replay controversial calls and don’t explain what’s going on. For something like that it’s best to be on the couch.

A win over Pitt is like kissing your sister

by JuniataMan on Oct 23, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"You do realize"

First off as one human being to another, thank you for the encouragement. Now back to fandom:

I will NEVER forget where I was or who was with me for that game. My man Kevbo, another PSU alum was with me in my living room and Tampa. I was kneeling on the rug in front of the TV begging for the game to be over. Begging God and Vishnu and anyone who would listen to let this terrible, almost decade long losing streak end. I think from your perspective you have no clue how proud the Nittany Lions are. And I see the wolverines marching down the field to ruin our perfect season. I see with my own eyes the clock on the TV tick to zero and I jump up and down in triumph to see the EVIL enemy finally lose and our season stay perfect. Listen dude I jumped up and down with joy because the game was over and the clock was done. I’LL NEVER FORGET IT. I don’t care about what the clock in the stadium said and I don’t care what JoePa asked for earlier. The game was over and you got an extra play to totally screw us. However nice that victory was for you, it was the worst moment in my life as a fan. Worse than losing SB XXX. Worse than getting embarrassed in the Rose Bowl last year.

No one deserves a win and the others guys get paid too (NFL cliche’), but WE DESREVED THAT WIN. IT WAS OURS. YOU HAD ENOUGH FREAKIN WINS OVER PSU. MORE THAN YOUR FAIR SHARE FOR THE NEXT DECADE.

I understand you can be smug and laugh at us, but you better hope you never know what it felt like to have a game like that stolen from you. I only hope that we can beat you guys a few times in a row and get back just a bit of the pride that you took from us, or from me at least.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Michigan_vs._Michigan_State_football_game

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice but that wasn't in the middle of a 7 game losing streak

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, if there was the 3 minute one, there was also one with 28 REAL seconds left

Because whoever the scUM WR was, he caught the ball with 29 seconds left, IN BOUNDS, and the next snap happened with 30 and the clock stopped.

by psume06 on Oct 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh...two seconds

I’m so sick of hearing PSU fans whine over the two seconds. Just let it go, man. Let it go.

by BSD on Oct 23, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

agreed

all of this rehashing of bad Michigan memories is bad mojo

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Oct 23, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pray for mojo

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Oct 23, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

If you’re going to bitch, bitch about the block on the back that wasn’t called on Breaston’s return or bitch about Mike “NEVER fumbles” Hart’s fumble that wasn’t a fumble because “there was a whistle”.

Or better yet, bitch about our coaching staff going conservative.

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or better better yet, stop bitching at all

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Not bitching is the way to go.

Although, Chad Henne’s forward progress was definitely stopped on the Zemaitis TD, and his knee looked to be been down w/possession as well. Let’s bitch about that a little before we stop altogether.

by Wlvrn99 on Oct 23, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AZ ripped the ball out of his hands, THEN Henne's progressed stopped.

I watched that play this morning, and Henne looked really cute reaching in the air like a wee babe.

by psume06 on Oct 23, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I’m a card-carrying Michigan hater. All the other sports rage/depression in my life combined doesn’t even begin to compare to how I felt at the end of the Mich ‘05 game. I hate Michigan so much that the one time I visited their God-forsaken state, I refused to eat there so as not to contribute to the local economy. As evil as it makes me, I laugh when I hear about the plight of Detroit. If Lloyd Carr, Chad Henne, Mike Hart, and Mario Manninghim were to die tomorrow, I’d tailgate at their funerals.

But those :02 were legit. And we shouldn’t have kicked it to Breaston. And the defense should have been able to tackle in-bounds.

by PSUMark2008 on Oct 23, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think....

you have some sort of distant relationship to Woody Hayes.. because that jawn is deep!

Did you also refuse to buy gasoline there?

I’m over it. Manningham plays for the GMEN now so I have to root for him.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 23, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In answer to your second question

yes. It’s close enough to the Ohio border that I was able to get gas there and didn’t have to fill up again until I left.

Avant plays for the Eagles and I’m from Philly. I still root against him, even while rooting for the Eagles. Just like I root for D-Will, Tamba, Poz, MRob, and every other PSU alum but against their teams when we play them.

by PSUMark2008 on Oct 23, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"As evil as it makes me, I laugh when I hear about the plight of Detroit."

FINALLY someone who hates them as much as I do! Hate makes you POWERFUL.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Ugh...two seconds"

Just to be clear, I blame JoePa for the whole mess. If we played better 2 second wouldn’t matter. I screamed for his head after 2007.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two options, same score:

35+ – Winner
13, 14 or 17 – loser.

If we play with OUR offense, not Joe’s “specially catered to Michigan” offense, we will be the 35+ team. If we play the other, Michigan will have plenty of time to RUN, which I think they can do. I much prefer to see them passing this year – means more shots at Tater Salad – means more turnovers – means Shoelaces – means even more turnovers.

So, look for one offense, hopefully the Spread HD, to put up TONS. Look for the other to put up either (1 TD, 2 FG), (2 TD), or (2 TD, 1 FG).

Also, look for Quarless to go rapesnake on Michigan. He should, in all honesty, be able to nab 1-2 TDs and 80+ yds if the use him like Iowa did Moeaki.

by psume06 on Oct 23, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

for “rapesnake”

by hbeach08 on Oct 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rapesnake is a great term.

I’ve heard it elsewhere, but it developed into a “this guy is the shit” when I was drunk this summer played NCAA 2009 (the basketball kind) and Talor Battle shit on people and I told my roommate (a Pitt kid) that Battle was gonna get rapesnake on him.

Feel free to use whenever you like.

by psume06 on Oct 23, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this summer played playing

by psume06 on Oct 23, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad feeling...

I have a bad feeling about this game. Better PSU teams have gone there and lost. Stats and brain say PSU wins something like 28-17. Gut says they lose 27-20 because the coaching staff turtles up. Hoping I am wrong. Dreading I am right.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PSU 25
Michigan 21

"Is that right?" Joe answered. "That’s not a problem. But you’ve got a problem. You don’t relate to me. And that’s a big problem."

by dmoney350z on Oct 23, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This feels like

The Wisconsin game last year to me. Hopefully the results are the same.

by jigalion on Oct 23, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"The Wisconsin game last year"

those are the best when you think you might get whooped and instead you lay the wood and even get an iconic picture out of the deal

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From your lips to God's ears my friend!

I think that would put a permanent smile on my face for the next week!!!

by RNF18 on Oct 23, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same

this is what I have been thinking. Except Wisconsin had 1 close loss up to that point. I just don’t see the respect that Michigan is getting. I see the game being close until the second half begins. And then PSU will pull away. With 2 Freshman QBs they just cannot make many adjustments on offense.

Who have they played? Is anyone afraid of their D? i would be much more worried about their Offense if they were as good passing as they seem to be at running. And by the way, if you want to see puckering during big games observe DickRod at WVU.

"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! I invented the piano key necktie, I invented it!" - Mugatu

by Captain Hairdo on Oct 23, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not so much scared of scUM...

as much as the staff’s history of coaching to close to the vest in Ann Arbor.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 23, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching

Is exactly the reason I am not scared. This staff has no respect for Rod and his crew, and rightfully so. I don’t think they are going to play it close to the vest at all.

"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! I invented the piano key necktie, I invented it!" - Mugatu

by Captain Hairdo on Oct 23, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am scared........

It could be a disappointing day.

PSU 23
scUM 17

Settle it on the field!

by PSUncle1981 on Oct 23, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Scared?

C’mon guys. We’re 5-1 in our last 6 away games. We lost against Iowa AT IOWA on a day where we played our worst game of the year, they played their best, and all they were able to do is beat us by a point on the last play of the game. JoePa has opened up the playbook the last year and a half (since 2007 Michigan, really) with the Spread HD. Our Defense is downright nasty, Tater is not 100%, and neither are Minor & Brown. Their D is miserable. Our O has improved significantly since the Iowa game.

It’s time to stop worrying about the pucker and start enjoying the slaughter. F Michigan. F the refs. It’s time to take it to them.

PSU – 35
UM – 17

WE ARE!

by anshey on Oct 23, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I remember 2 years ago in Ann Arbor

We had everything in our favor that day including the fact that Hart was banged up and they had a FR QB starting over Henne and we lost then.

by RNF18 on Oct 23, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they had Long.

This isn’t remembered well enough: Hart ran behind that guy on something like 80% of his carries in that game. He was a monster we had no answer for, and since we didn’t try to score it made killing the clock and holding onto the ball very easy.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 23, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

excellent point

Their Oline is athletic, but we have a dominant DT in Odrick going against a solid C who is coming off of a broken ankle. If Odrick gets in the backfield early and often, and we handle Graham, we win.

by anshey on Oct 23, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point!

I feel a little better now. Still nervous but better. I just pray that our staff realizes the error of their ways with Michigan and allows our players to win the game with their talent!

by RNF18 on Oct 23, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

for pointing out something I never thought of…

That is a really good point, though.

by psume06 on Oct 23, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we had QB14

"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! I invented the piano key necktie, I invented it!" - Mugatu

by Captain Hairdo on Oct 23, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's time to start trusting the team...

The juniors and seniors on this team have proven themselves in big games. Sure, we’ve lost a few in the process but I think we can compete with anybody outside of the top OMGSEC teams.

My thoughts….
-test the UM secondary: if there a weakness to the team. EXPLOIT THAT JAWN. I’d like to see a heavy dose of Moye and Chaz stretching them deep. Opens up the under neath for AQ.
-The pass will open up the run. I can’t see Royster breaking through an 8 man front because he’s not that type of back

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 23, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stretching them deep. Opens up the under neath

oh my

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 23, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

EXPLOIT THAT JAWN

JAWN?

I love Philly peeps.

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09

by kmblue on Oct 23, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NP Bishes!

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09

by kmblue on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I get a

translation?

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 23, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blasted Corporate Overlords

block such things from the peasants.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 23, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't heard Jawn in awhile

I remember when that word was used in just about every sentence. LOL!

by RNF18 on Oct 23, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PSU – 24
UM – 10

by RitterPSU on Oct 23, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This looks about right.

I’ll go three more for the good guys and say…

PSU – 27
UM – 10

by BSM PSU 93 on Oct 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we get off to a strong start PSU wins easy...if its close

DC ass begins to pucker and he tries too had…then it snowballs downhill

He needs to realize…he is not Mrob

PSU 17
Mich 28

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, GUIDO

by SweepTheLeg on Oct 23, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My Iowa prediction was much more realistic

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, not in hindsight

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, not in hindsight

You were all a bunch of damned kool-aid drinking happy jacks.

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was not. I thought they would win, but it would be ugly..

it was ugly but they lost. No kool aid touched my lips.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 23, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can do this all day.

I got nothing but time, Chief Gaines. How much time you got?

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 23, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The reason I think we should call DC

BATMAN. In reference/reverence to the other Mr. Clark.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Oct 23, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts

I think it will be a close game. I want to see when the 1 clark turnover comes. He is always good for 1 turnover a game it seems like. Will Clark come out over throwing and have to much energy or will he keep it cool and be the one who Runs and doesn’t look scared. I also think a lot has to do with the weather. We already know if this comes down to a kicking game we are going to lose. I see Penn State pulling it out in a close but good win.

PSU = 33
scUM = 18

by jetskijoe on Oct 23, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 for this

especially for the part about lee’s acl shooting out gerg’s eye.

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 23, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 for Royster and lacrosse

"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."

by ReadingRambler on Oct 23, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royster played lacrosse?

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Oct 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he was pretty good

he was even offered a schollie by Johns Hopkins, they’re the OMGSEC of college lacrosse!

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 23, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

but you forgot that in order for that to happen AJ Wallace would also have to forget to put on his chin strape and put in his mouth piece causing his teeth to fly out of his mouth and imbed themselves into the eyes of each of our defensive linemen during a collision with Minor. Without that I think we still win by 10! :-)

by RNF18 on Oct 23, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only positive of this could be

In his concussed and confused state Clark mistakes the wolverine for a walking hoagie and tears into it leaving only feet and a tail before anyone can stop him.

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."

by psu on Oct 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I expect a heavy dose of Pucker and BBDS from PSU this weekend

I may work if our defense can play the BBDS to perfection.

PSU 31
SCUM 28

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."

by psu on Oct 23, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Conservative Gameplan

Can you really make a solid argument that it’s not appropriate here?
PSU strong defensively, but has made mistakes on offense and special teams, Mich with a major matchup problem with DE Graham vs OT Poti, Michigan mistake prone on offense as well.
I know it’s not popular, but I think a 75/25 run/pass ratio is exactly what these game circumstances dictate. Can you make an argument that PSU is best served dropping Clark back to throw?

by InScoresOfOtherGames on Oct 23, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So I’ll say PSU 21 Mich 17

by InScoresOfOtherGames on Oct 23, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“conservative” is not a game plan… I’m not sure what it is…maybe over coaching… I don’t see anthing in this michigan team that is different from anyone PSU has played this year… I hope they go out an play like it’s just another game…
I know what you’re gonna say, but it’s not another game, it Michigan…
Now, I haven’t looked at all the past games box score but I feel like when PSU takes this “conservative” approach they end up make more mistakes than maybe they would just playing thier own game…

by WETSU on Oct 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The best evidence that we shouldn't go conservative is 2005. We WERE going conservative, then in the last like quarter and a half, we opened up and moved all over them.

Had we been scoring like that to begin with, the refverines couldn’t have helped.

I was at a wedding at the time, so my timing as to when we opened up could be wrong.

by psume06 on Oct 24, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

128 comments...

and this is easily the best one. Nicely said, 06.

by BSM PSU 93 on Oct 24, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

When Clark is LOOSE, which usually means come out gunning (note from Iowa: he STARTED loose, then they started running more and more that 2nd drive), he and the rest of our team are INFINITELY better. When he is tight, he presses and sucks.

If we go out with the purpose of F*%&ing destroying the scUM of the earth, Clark won’t have to press because we can get comfortably ahead. If we come out running, it will stay close, and Clark will (feel that he will) have to press in the end, and the last time we saw that was Iowa last year.

I say, grab this meatchicken by its balls, lop them off early in the game, and then while its squirming, cut off its head and watch it run around aimlessly like in South Park. DON’T tickle it and make it feel good until it pecks our eyes out.

by psume06 on Oct 23, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said that in my

best Isaac Hayes impression and it actually made me feel a little bit better.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 23, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if UM was up against a thousand tiny UM's, who wins then?

Okay, UM faces a hurricane, but the hurricane’s name is Ann Arbor. Anyways, back to this prediction business.

I say good guys 268 bad guys 13. I have always liked that score because when I was 14 I played Madden 02. I was my dear Vikings against the Colts and I played 15 minute quarters. It took over 4 hours and Daunte Culpepper had like 5000 yards passing and 30 some TDs, almost all to Randy Moss. Man, that game those two were unstoppable together, Moss would quite literally catch everything thrown to him. I may have wasted an entire saturday, but I was quite satisfied.

I see no reason why there would be a different outcome in the PSU vs them game this Saturday. I mean the parallels are there. DC? Daunte/Daryll Culpepper/Clark. There are 4 letters in Moss, 4 letters in Moye(the next Moss), both start with M. Mike Hart was drafted by the Colts, the nemesis in my siuation. The edition of Madden was the same year the refs blew the infamous Tony Johnson call(2002). Chad Henne took Culpepper’s backup Dolphins job..

I mean, right there is all the proof you need. 268-13 good guys.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1 for logical correlation

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please

, don’t ever use the words Michigan and ******* in the same sentence again during game week.

by dr kill on Oct 23, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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