Pregame Open Thread
Here's the schedule today. All times Eastern Time.
12 PM - Early Games Open Thread
1:30 PM - Early Games Second Half Open Thread
3:30 PM - Penn State vs. Michigan Open Thread
4:15 PM - Second Quarter Open Thead
5:30 PM - Third Quarter Open Thread
6:15 PM - Fourth Quarter Open Thread
7:30 PM - Late Games Open Thread
9:30 PM - Late Games Second Half Open Thread
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Desmond Howard Smokes Crack
Just said Penn State is the most likely one-loss team to lose today. (Big Surprise!) Says PSU is having problems at the linebacker position. wha?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 24, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well we all know how frustrating it is to have 6 quality LB’s and only room on the feild for 3, i’d call this a problem and a great job of investigative journalism by desmond"the poser"howard
Because it's a Bowl Game!!
-My wife when asked why she didn't tell me she was having contractions Jan. 1 2007
by Grainey on Oct 24, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said this last night
and I was like WTF? He could pick on anything he wanted and make a case for it — oline, running game, untested secondary, Clark and pressure, new FG kicker, awful return special teams — and he picked the one thing that we most certainly don’t have a problem with.
BSD
by Kevin HD on Oct 24, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is
He didn’t even elaborate on the problems. If he had said there are a lot of injuries I might agree with him. Or if he had said they were poorly defending and backed it up with some film I might go along. But he just said they’re having “problems” and left it at that.
Quality journalism there, Desmond.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 24, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always kinda wondered why they've gone with him
as the future Corso replacement. I don’t want to get into the whole diversity thing, but I will say it’s not like there isn’t a huge, diverse pool to choose from. He seems like a nice enough guy but as far as “expert analysis” he maybe worse than average around there, which isn’t very good.
The only thing I can think is that they want the Michigan fan base, similar to why they are able to stick with Lou even though he brings nothing but his clown tricks to the table.
BSD
by Kevin HD on Oct 24, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou
Is at least mildly entertaining. I couldn’t tell you what Howard brings to the table.
by speedomike on Oct 24, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his suits
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on
You know the answer to that.
by gumbercules on Oct 24, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his flashy pocket squares?
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This morning my wife is watching ABC’s ‘good-morning news’ show (it’s like ABC’s version of fox and friends), and the male and female anchors had a little sparring match b/c the dude’s from UM and the lady anchor is from State College and went to PSU.
The guy’s like ‘yeah, Michigan’s going to win’ and the chick did the We Are thing.
So I’m intentionally avoiding Game Day b/c I’m trying not to get too hyped over this game, and it’s even a topic on some fluffy morning news show.
"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.
by millzners on Oct 24, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May/Holtz
But what does it say that during the halftime show last night (RU/Army), Lou picked Michigan to win, while Mark May went with Penn State?
Kiss of death?
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by Mike @ ZN on Oct 24, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May's been right more often than Holtz this year
"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 24, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like mark may lost a bet or something
…i’m sure they had to figure out someway to determine who would have to choose PSU
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Mark May went with Penn State"
I thought I was in bizarro world when he didn’t crap all over PSU for once. This is the first time he’s ever not done that at his first opportunity.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 24, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatchu talkin' 'bout Willis...
Mike – he stated that last nite too, during half time of the game…
/ pffftt
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 24, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tin Foil Hat switch
There’s already a thread on mgo that claims Desmond is wearing a Penn State colored tie because he’s anti-RR. lulz conspiracy!
by formerlyanonymous on Oct 24, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday Pic
must have been a slow day in cfb if notre dame/pitt was the gameday local
by farrellpsu on Oct 24, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're in Provo
Utah. TCU and BYU are up today.
FWIW, I like TCU. Maybe just cuz I’m partial to teams with really good defenses.
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by Mike @ ZN on Oct 24, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're talking about the pic at the top of this page...
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just cannot take anybody with "horned frogs" as a mascot seriously
The Mormons verses the Horned Frogs?!
by PSUWifey on Oct 24, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes i know
i was referring to the pic above
by farrellpsu on Oct 24, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i just realized how unlikely it is we will see a clever/dirty sign today...
seeing as how they are in Mormontown, USA
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Live from the great salt lake

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."
by psu on Oct 24, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I always aks Corso on defense"
… kinda dirty? no?
by lendamico on Oct 24, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that a reference to the NCAA football video game?
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine
like asking Madden? I’ve never played.
by lendamico on Oct 24, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i haven't played it in a couple years...but i know they have a feature like that
or at least had in 2005
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did y'all see this link?
amandakt posted it in the other thread, I LOVE it:
http://www.deadschembechlers.com/deadschembechlers_018.htm
I hate Michigan!
by PSUWifey on Oct 24, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to love it, but…
they’re a bunch of bucknuts, which tempers my feelings for it.
by lendamico on Oct 24, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if MSU has any chance against Iowa
That is the non PSU game I am most excited to watch.
"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."
by psu on Oct 24, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone else think that Iowa will be picked to lose every game they play from here on out?
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
- team in the country playing a road night game on the Big Ten Network…..showcasing our talents
by farrellpsu on Oct 24, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
supposedly desmond is gonna hit us with his "psu has LB problems" knowledge again
HATE HATE HATE HATE
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we don’t want to hear what he has to say
by farrellpsu on Oct 24, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to mention
that I’ve seen Stephen Obeng-Agyapong twice in the past week. Apparently he shops at Gamestop. I tried to take a picture but then he looked, and he did not approve.
by PizzaDelivery on Oct 24, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You're mistaken
That was a smile.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Oct 24, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
props to ESPN
for bringing Gameday to Provo. It would have been so easy for them to pick about ten other BC$ games this week… say, one happening in Ann Arbor, fr’isntance?
by lendamico on Oct 24, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just feel bad for Corso
He seems to drift in and out of his old self.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 24, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd say give him a year
he only had the stroke in june-ish.
dick clark is starting seem a little more dick clark-like…so there is hope
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
Hopefully he does improve more. Hate to see this happen to everyone.
At least it’s not at Dick Clark level, he makes me depressed on New Years.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 24, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's everyone watching at noon?
Arm punts?
by gumbercules on Oct 24, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fa sho
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
surprise surprise
joe doesn’t see the value in touching/rubbing/slapping something.
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
zoltan fail?
If PSU did that type of stuff, Zug would never miss it.
by lendamico on Oct 24, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BYU Couger is the man
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 24, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is his name cosmo?
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you're thinking
and no – we cannot use him to get more chicken cosmos.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Oct 24, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLURGH!!!!
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it's cosmo
which only adds to the awesomeness
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 24, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm just chugging Haterade, but is the Emu really a "Heisman Candidate?"
by lendamico on Oct 24, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
probably
how bad do you think the MSM wants a ND heisman winner? hell, how bad do you think they want a ND BCS team…both are extremely rare, and extremely marketable
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this crappy year?
I hate to say it, but why not? No other player is stepping up to make a claim.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
by 06Lion on Oct 24, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ingram
dude is a train! he’s putting up HS running back numbers (as in ridiculously high yardage on ridiculously low amount of carries)
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DUH
Only QBs can win the Heisman. Didn’t you know?
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
by 06Lion on Oct 24, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but this kid runs like AP
he looks for contact. he does in college what tim tebow will do in the NFL as a fullback.
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kidding aside
Ingram would be my #1 at this point, but you still have to fill out a top 5, or at least 3. Who else would go to NY? Tebow? Not so far this year. Colt McCoy? I don’t think so. Maybe Locker or some of the QBs from lesser conferences. There really isn’t a race for the Heisman this year. Nobody except Ingram seems to care.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
by 06Lion on Oct 24, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow will win
on “leadership ability”.
Did you hear that shit? Look, if you want to ignore everything and just anoint him, at least stop pretending that there is any sort of impartiality.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 24, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But but
Look at the way he leads that defense! I mean, the D is winning for them mostly, so he must be leading the D yes?
by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 24, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about defense (i know OMG defense can't win)
but that DE from nebraska, or Spivey over at Iowa have been huge factors in their success (well nebraskas relatively success compared to the last couple years).
honestly, if there was a year where a penn state player could have a chance to win…THIS was the year. unfortunately, royster started slow, clark imploded against iowa, and i’m sure a punter has never been in the top 25 in heisman votes.
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess what desmond
usain bolt is a fantastic, gifted athlete!! maybe he should lead tOSU offense?
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kirk Herbstreit Casting Doubt on Pryor as a QB
Now I am convinced he is a closet Lion
by ljdevine on Oct 24, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a closet Lion
just the best in the business.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 24, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so much for that closet lion stuff
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 24, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 24, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he's just pissed
that pryor is tarnishing his schools legacy and dominance in the big ten
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
* points and laughs *
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 24, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does he not realize that bowman has been playing since Iowa?
and that penn state has been doing fine WITHOUT lee?
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a matter of fact he doesn't
because he’s dumb and doesn’t do his homework.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 24, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Research...
that stuff if for amateurs!
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by Mike @ ZN on Oct 24, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lord knows he didn't do any reading at UM
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 24, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't bother him with
“facts”
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 24, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he must idolize Stephen Colbert
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Desmond Howard - defender of truthiness
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Oct 24, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Homer
I had been pretty neutral to Desmond so far. He hadn’t been too homerish until today. Kirk Herbstreit at least tried to back up why he picked UM to win. But Desmond sounded like some two-bit blogger! wink
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
by Mike @ ZN on Oct 24, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They are showing clips of BYU at Tulane
Bourbon Street must hate that weekend
by ljdevine on Oct 24, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bourbon St. sees pleny of action, Mormons or no Mormons
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...
by letsgopsu on Oct 24, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you think he meant "state college"
and not “college station”
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
- what do you think...
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 24, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm just bored
typing out loud?
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just bustn’ balls man!
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 24, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
/ and typing / replying with my toes …
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 24, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was just going to mention that
ridiculous, Lee Corso, ridiculous
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on Oct 24, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its sorta like having a weird uncle at Thanksgiving dinner
by ljdevine on Oct 24, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me thinks he chewed on too many of those lead (Pb) pencils
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 24, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
corso is picking the same as this old guy. does this mean that corso’s picks represent what an old white man would pick?
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that horned frog thing is CREEPY!!
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by thedrizzle on Oct 24, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Horned Frogs are doomed
that was the kiss of death
time for arm punts!
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...
by letsgopsu on Oct 24, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are they going a jig?
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...
by letsgopsu on Oct 24, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
going=doing
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
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by letsgopsu on Oct 24, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2009/10/24/1098237/early-games-open-thread#comments
"It's like a bad rave, only in place of the hypnotic effects of your grandfather's oxycontin, there's an actual octogenerian screaming gibberish over a thumping beat."
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