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Grading the Penn State Defense Against Michigan


Oh, we heard a lot of talk about the Penn State defense before the game. Who had they played? They hadn't seen a rushing offense like Michigan. I think one of our resident BSD Wolverine fans predicted Minor and Brown BOTH going over 100 yards with Forcier getting another 60. So much for that, huh?

Defensive Line

Outside of that first series, they absolutely dominated the Wolverines who only gained 110 yards on the ground. This is the team that led the Big Ten averaging 235 yards per game

. Jared Odrick's 2 tackles and 0.5 TFL don't accurately illustrate how dominating he was. Eating up two blockers on pretty much every play, he disrupted everything Michigan wanted to do. And he should have had a safety but he overran the tackles and let Forcier get it away. On the next play he had the center so nervous the kid snapped the ball right out the back of the endzone.

Jack Crawford had perhaps his best day yet. After getting sucked inside on a few fake handoffs, he settled into his assignment and finished with 3 tackles, all for a loss, and a sack. He also forced the fumble on Robinson late in the game. In all the line finished with 13 tackles, 6.5 TFL, and 3 sacks. Devon Still and true freshman Jordan Hill recorded the other two sacks which makes me feel good about next year after Odrick is gone.

Final Grade: A

Star-divide

Linebackers

What can be said about Lavorro at this point? Not much, really, so I'll just point at the scoreboard: 11 tackles (6 solo), 1 fumble recovery, 1 INT, and 1 sack. As I predicted, Penn State held him back as a spy in passing situations and it worked to perfection. Every time Forcier tried to get out of the pocket to improvise, Bowman was there to drop him or make him get rid of it. By the end of the first quarter Forcier looked like a deer in the headlights. Welcome to the Big Ten, kid.

The Hull-stache had another great day with 10 tackles (6 solo), 2.5 TFL, and a sack. It must be the mustache, because this is not the same player we saw Brandon Minor dragging for 8 yard gains last year.

Bani Gbadyu and Sean Lee split time and combined for 8 tackles. Chris Colasanti got in the game briefly, and Forcier made him look silly by faking him out of his jock on a QB keeper.

Final Grade: A

 

Secondary

I'll say this: When the coaches let them man up and play, they did well. More on that later. Forcier only managed 140 yards on less than 50% passing. He threw the pick to Astorino, and was sacked five times. Many of the sacks on Forcier were coverage sacks where he couldn't find a man open. There were very few mistakes by the group other than a missed tackle or two.

Final Grade: A

 

Special Teams

Another so-so performance. Jeremy Boone has to shorten his windup for his punts. That's two he has had blocked this year, and you can bet every team from here on out will be gunning for him.

Collin Wagner hit his two short field goal attempts. Two of his seven kickoffs went for touchbacks. So it was a good day for him. The kickoff coverage team seems to get it now and they are holding down the big returns. At least I don't remember my heart skipping a beat as they make a shoe string tackle to prevent six points this week.

But our own kick returns were much improved highlighted by Chaz Powell's 54 yard return to open the second half.

The punt return game...seriously guys. Absolutely terrible. I shouldn't complain because they are catching the ball, but what was up with Zug catching the ball and starting to run only to find out Drew Astorino called for a fair catch? It's like the Keystone Cops out there. Let's put the dual return man thing to bed. There is absolutely nothing dynamic about our punt return game right now. Something tells me Joe Paterno likes it that way.

Final Grade: C

 

Defensive Coaching

Okay, so what happened on that first drive? For starters, Michigan had obviously been scripting those plays and practicing them for the past two weeks. They ran with no huddle and everyone obviously knew what they were supposed to do. Penn State had no time to make adjustments or switch personnel. That was a big factor in the drive.

As far as I can tell, the uncertainty surrounding the no huddle forced Penn State to go into some very simple base defensive sets. You know what means, right? Good ol' Cover-3. Forcier took advantage of the soft coverage three times for passes of 7, 7, and 20 yards. The big pass came when Sukay missed a tackle on a short screen. Crawford got sucked into a fake handoff allowing Forcier to gain 8 yards on one play. The rest of the drive was a lot of Carlos Brown and Minor RAGE for decent carries in the 6-8 yard range. But there were also some short 1 and 2 yard gains won by the defense.

Give credit to Michigan on that drive. They came out and hit Penn State in the mouth. I see a lot of Michigan blogs and fans asking why they got away from the running game after that drive, but truthfully, two out of Michigan's first three plays were good sized passing gains. Penn State tightened up the coverage after that and Michigan couldn't answer.

Checking the stats today, it is a beautiful sight. Penn State leads the conference in every single defensive statistic. Awesome.

Final Grade: A

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Jack Crawford and Josh Hull are quite a team...

Wow. Never ceases to amaze me. What [player] you gonna go with? London Gentleman, or wait. No, no, no. Hold on. Blackbeard’s Delight.

by Aaron PSU on Oct 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Maybe Hull could share some of his awesome stache with him

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."

by psu on Oct 26, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, especially because he can't grow hair.

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."

by psu on Oct 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hereby retract everything negative i have said

about josh hull.

the kid is living the dream right now.

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our defense never ceases to amaze me.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They send offenses

running for the nearest emergency exit

by jimbo2psu on Oct 26, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odrick
On the next play he had the center so nervous the kid snapped the ball right out the back of the endzone.

This is a good example of one’s opponent causing mistakes by [your] team. It’s something terribly difficult for a losing fanbase to acknowledge, especially Michigan’s.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds phenomenal

I missed the game, having been at a wedding. My brother was checking scores on his phone all the way up to my speech, so I was able to relay the 25-10 score to the audience (including my UM girlfriend). Does anyone have any video of the game that shows any of this phenomenal D? All I caught were the tWWL highlights…

Also, and completely unrealistic, but what are the chances we lose more than Navorro and the seniors? Anyone else anywhere near NFL material, or are they just manhandling the competition as per usual?

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 26, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Going Pro

Maybe Ogbu. He’ll probably think about it, but I think it would help his stock to come back next year. I think the draft will be flooded with DT’s this year.

Enjoy this defense now. They will not be the same next year without Odrick, Bowman, Hull, and Lee.

by BSD on Oct 26, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

but aren’t we always nasty on d…we don’t rebuild, we reload.

Although when I look at those four names, those are pretty much the best four guys we got and four of the best in the country.

Still, I’m already excited about next year’s team, because we get an offense that’s the complete opposite of this one: experience everywhere except in the backfield.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Oct 26, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I hope we can find a Tackle that can contribute….Shrive maybe….

by platnumkid on Oct 26, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you realize clark isn't coming back, right?

and that we are losing our top 2 tight ends?

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Oct 26, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Backfield = Clark, I assume.

And TE is like d-line. Reload, not rebuild.

by PSUJunny05 on Oct 26, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why not say under center?

Backfield implies everything in BACK of the good gentlemen at the line of scrimmage..

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Oct 26, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't realize that Royster

has another year left.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah hes a redshirt junior

a lot of people have been saying he’s gonna make the jump…but after the mediocre first 3-4 games he had, i seriously doubt it.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Oct 27, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he'll go

He’ll have his degree. The life of an NFL running back is only so long. No need to waste those carries in college. He would be no worse than a third round draft pick. Go get the money, son.

by BSD on Oct 27, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunno about that...

…I think late rounds. Based on absolutely no rankings or scout info I have heard, just guessing. I just don’t see the speed.

I think he would be a great value in round 5 or later though.

by hbeach08 on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(fingers in ears) LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

I’m still holding onto hope (although I can see myself quoting Gandalf in a few months, “There was never much hope. Just a fool’s hope.”) that Bowman comes back to lead and anchor the D next year. I hate to want to think this, but I kind of wonder if he feels like he “owes” Joe for sticking by him despite his troubles, making him stay. It’s a longshot of him not leaving, but I’ve still got my fingers crossed.

But I am kind of excited and nervous at the same time about next years defense. On the D-line, we’ll (hopefully) have Ogbu back, along with Still and Hill, who are looking pretty impressive in the D-line rotation. We’ll also have Crawford and Lattimore back as ends, along with a lot of great young talent coming in. LB scares me the most, even though I know someone almost always steps up, but luckily we get Mauti, Stupar (and please, Zug, Bowman), and hopefully Colasanti gets his stuff together, otherwise, we might have to dig into the young talent with Carson, Hodges (assuming he stays at his newly appointed LB position), Hull 2.0 (who will need to start working on his stache), and Fortt. And for the first time in a while, I’m not overly worried about the secondary despite the loss of Wallace and Timmons, since Morris and Lynn have been really impressive so far, and are still really young.

Could be interesting or very scary. I guess how we perform against Bama next year will kind of gauge how well this defense is going to reload with the loss of a lot of stars.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 27, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes with all the negative nancy schedule talk

I forget we play Alabama next year. Then I remember and get really excited.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 27, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Linebackers

I’m thinking Mauti in the middle flanked by Stupar and Hodges. Isn’t Bani back for one more year though? If so, you’d think he’d be in the driver’s seat to start. I’m really hoping Hodges is the real deal, though, and takes one of the starting positions during the Spring and Summer.

by BSM PSU 93 on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I forgot about Bani

I remembered it today, but alas, I can’t edit comments

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 27, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

call me crazy...

…but I think Ogbu is a better pro prospect than Odrick.

I just think he has a better build for interior d-line play at the next level.

by hbeach08 on Oct 27, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

You’re crazy.

by jtw126 on Oct 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're crazy

Anyway, some teams probably want Odrick as a 3-4 end.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 27, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of see what you're saying

Odrick would make a great DE in a 3-4 in the NFL. Ogbu is more of a pure DT.

by BSD on Oct 27, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...

…I think that was what I was saying. I don’t see Odrick playing a 3 technique or nose…3-4 d-end for sure.

by hbeach08 on Oct 28, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the original boast was

100 yards each for Minor and Brown and 60 for Velcro, not Tate. And maybe he meant in the rest of their careers against Penn State, it was never specified.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Oct 26, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the correct prediction.

You also correctly point out that there was no timeframe provided.

Minor, however, will never reach 100 yds.

As per the other thing, re: draft eligible juniors, I think Bowman will be back. He’s not getting the same media BJ he was last year, and 3 games out may hurt his stock enough to encourage a return…

by psume06 on Oct 26, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I was Bowman...

I would look at what happened to Bradford and Lee and take the money and run. Especially with the upcoming labor uncertainty in the NFL.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 27, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

the bottom ticker on twwl during the game has him as the #2 OLB prospect in the country…so i expect he’ll be gone. someone on here a few weeks ago said about he promised his mom he’d graduate—where does he stand with that? if he graduates in december, he’s gone. plan for the worst, hope for the best. hate to see him come back and get injured when he’s already a 1st/early 2nd rounder.

"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who

by afields16 on Oct 27, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enjoyment

I think I got more enjoyment from this performance than any game in the past 5 years. Even in the wins against OSU I’m generally too nervous to truly enjoy them.
This was a thorough whipping from the second drive, and it was beautiful.

by InScoresOfOtherGames on Oct 26, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Were Number 1 in the Country!!

In Scoring Defense; Nice Job Boys

by LegalLion on Oct 26, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Devon Smith?

Anyone know what’s up with him. I didn’t see him playing Saturday. Did he get injured in the Minnesota game?

by ageing lion on Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He had a concussion at one point, but I didn't hear anything about him from the game

If I had to guess, Joe kept the proven commodities lined up at WR instead of the youngins when playing in Ann Arbor.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 27, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lavarro

With that stat line i thought he was a shoe in for BTPotW

by platnumkid on Oct 26, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

me too

it was shared with clayborn at iowa and gibson at tOSU. they had 2 sacks and 3 sacks, respectively, and both were involved in fumbles…soooo…i still don’t understand why they got it. bowman had more tackles than both combined.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Oct 26, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even with how great our D is and usually has been

It was so great for once to be happily drunk in the fourth quarter and not yelling “Ann Arbor is a Whore” to the TV worried that Michigan would pull out a last second (or -2 second) win on their final drive. Also, no broken remote control this year, so that’s an added bonus!

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Oct 26, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

General thoughts on our defense

it seems we’re built most years under the philosophy that we’ll get picked apart by NFL-caliber qb’s…and dominate everyone else. And I’m completely ok with that. But it IS frustrating to come up against a team capable of picking up a blitz or picking apart a zone consistently to work the ball down the field. Is it too early to start thinking about potential bowl matchups? Short list of qb’s I’m worried about:

1. McCoy (if Texas loses along the way, we could well end up with them in the Fiesta)
2. Clausen (Jimmy Heisman has vastly improved from the freshman beatdown in the Whitehouse)
3. Bill Stull (I can’t believe I just said that)
4. Tyrod Taylor? Eh maybe

Anyone else’s opinion?

by jimbo2psu on Oct 26, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

I wonder how Texas would perform under pressure from a Big Ten defense as dominant as ours is, since they really don’t play defenses worth their weight in gold. Not really trying to bash Texas, just curious since they seemed to be held in check by tOSU last year, and won thanks to the offensive shart Tressel sent onto the field.

I’d love to see Odrick, Bowman, Lee, Hull, and company crush the living daylights out of Golden Boy. If they couldn’t irk out a win against Michigan’s D, I don’t have too much confidence in the Domer’s offense, even with their “stars”.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 27, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Texas' Offense

looked pretty mortal against Oklahoma

Beat Northwestern.

by jesse. on Oct 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Florida's offense

looked pretty mortal against Miss. State

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...And Arkansas

which they barely won

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 27, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they sure did...and then there's that replay thingy that could have changed the momentum "big-time"

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alabama's offense

has looked pretty mortal against just about everyone

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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