Nitts Picks Is Peaking At The Wrong Time
Exercise in apathy. For those of you worried about a fierce Northwestern crowd:
[T]his 4:30 pm et start time, which was cemented at the beginning of the season has been the home treat of the schedule. This summer, fans dreamed of NU being 7-0 or a "realistic worse case scenario" of entering 6-2. The current 5-3 was inconceivable. Regardless, you were excited because it promised our best home atmosphere of an otherwise pathetic home atmosphere season. There is one problem. It is Halloween night.
That's LTP and he goes on to explain that, in the twisted world of NW athletic support, an 11 a.m. local time start is preferred. It's way sadder over there than I realized.
Also of concern for those in purple: Northwestern's secondary isn't exactly healthy.
Oh contrare. Rittenburg has an untypical fluff piece about how Penn State is (per the title) "peaking at the right time."
Uh, no they aren't. Penn State is certainly better today than they were on the Wednesday before the Iowa game -- shoot you might even be able to call the team "peaking" -- but it's certainly not happening at the right time. You want to peak against the best competition on the schedule, not Northwestern.
We'll hopefully finish strong, smart money says we do, but having one loss through eight and a 2% chance at the Rose Bowl means you didn't do anything at the right time, and that's why Paterno's best realistic scenario right now is a BCS at-large against someone uninspiring like TCU.
Someone isn't understanding the point of an "unofficial visit." In what has become rare bad news about the upcoming recruiting class, Sharrif Floyd announced a top-5 in some type of journal on SI and left Penn State off the list. What's strange, though, is that he wants to make a visit for the Penn State-Ohio State game:
Next weekend, I [as in Floyd --ed] might head to Penn State for an unofficial visit. The Nittany Lions play the Buckeyes and it should be a crazy game and a full white-out. And I want to end with this with my top five.
Can I have a drum roll please? In no particular order, they are: Florida, Ohio State, North Carolina, South Carolina and USC.
For starters: someone isn't reading their daily-Daily Collegian. Ohio State isn't "a full white-out," and not even a fun alternative like "stupid tie-die shirt you bought at the FCL for $8 day."
Also, are you allowed to make a visit to a school to see another team play? Someone ask the caring is creepy experts.
The schools failed him. Taylor Mays did something dirty in USC's game against Oregon State, and the Pac-10 has decided that the best way to handle this is suspend the referee who missed the penalty. Because when you steal and get away with it, really the cop should go to jail.
A week after exonerating USC safety Taylor Mays for a penalty that was called against him at Notre Dame, the Pacific 10 Conference on Monday suspended an official for not calling a facemask penalty against the two-time All-American.
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"We have taken this action in light of the blatant and dangerous nature of the missed call," Pac-10 Commissioner Larry Scott said in a statement. "We have full confidence in our highly trained and qualified staff of football officials, but they, like the coaches and players [O Rly? --ed], are accountable and must meet the high expectations placed upon them."
The call in question:
So, yeah, stupid ref, what were you thinking. This is clearly all your fault, as Mays obviously isn't in need of cleaning up his own work.
Oh yeah, never mind.
In score of other games. Decker is done, so you can now call Iowa's remaining schedule that much more manageable...but then again they've just lost running back Adam Robinson for the year...Wrestling coach Cael Sanderson is making some questionable redshirt moves...Penn State continues to feel the hate in the Mumme Poll as a very distant 12...Iowa's SOS is several 1's and 0's better than yours.
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Mays has a nice tendency to make stupid decisions that lead to big gains and touchdowns. But all is forgiven because he has a fast 40 time and does a great job spearing opponents making big hits.
We really do need to play those douchebags again.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
I would love for nothing more than...
Quarless to go in as a leading blocker for Royster and absolutely truck Mays.
Pryor made him look silly because he went out of his way to lay out somebody.
I mean I know safety is a hitting position, but you don’t spear guys like that. I can remember the numerous big hits Sciriotto had but he never lead with his helmet. Enough damage can be done with the hands, forearms or shoulder pads.
by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Jack Crawford vs. Talor Mays: Street fight
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by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 28, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice thought...
but you’re not talking about Quarless. He’s really not a hitter or particularly physical at all. On a lucky break, maybe Eliades gets a hold of him and knocks his ass out… or perhaps Suhey or Beachum with a full head of steam… or possibly either Shuler or Brackett… but not Quarless.
well...
hard to figure out a position player that would have the best chance of making contact with him. Not sure if Suhey could lay the wood, but who knows.
by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 29, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I
really hate ( NOT !!! ) beating this drum, but I really, really want them on a neutral field!
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by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
No
I want them in the Rose Bowl. Let’s not wuss out and pretend we can’t beat them there because we can. It would mean more to me to walk into Camelot, kick their ass, say “werd” on the way out.
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by Adam Bittner on Oct 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Floyd
When I saw he said he wants to visit PSU unofficially for the OSU game, and then he said PSU was off his list, the first thing that came to mind was that he just wants to see Ohio State play locally for free.
He’s a kid playing the recruiting game. His on again off again relationship with PSU is driving me nuts. I say we don’t need him or his drama. Let him go play for Urban or Sweatervest or whoever the highest bidder is.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Yup
Any kid that says “Can I have a drumroll please?” prior to listing his top 5 schools in a national publication is probably not fitting the mold of what we like to see from our players, so I’m not really torn up over it.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
What rubbed me the wrong way
Was where he said that what he likes about OSU is how in that system he could “put up some big numbers,” not how his talents could thrive in that system to help the team win some games.
I never like talking junk about kids, but he really does seem like a me first kind of person, not the Penn State kind of person.
I'm not ready to give up yet, *but*...
If he’s truly not interested and wants to see the Penn State / Ohio State game, he better go check StubHub for a ticket.
This, incidentally, is a nice thing about having 90% of the recruiting class locked up. They can afford to spend a little extra time on the remaining two or three spots and the coaching staff and team aren’t tied up with trying to shuttle around scores of recruits.
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by Run Up The Score on Oct 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It does.
Rather tone deaf, which leaves open the possibility that there’s something going on with PSU that we don’t know about. He can’t legitimately expect to get a sideline pass for the Ohio State game if he’s truly eliminated PSU from consideration.
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by Run Up The Score on Oct 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares...
Lock up Thornton, make him and Hailes better backs than any other school will make Floyd, and send him a letter in 5 years saying “told you so.”
Well
He could be considering 10 schools and have a final 5, and he’s referenced an interest in PSU in other interviews. Besides, once he sees PSU/OSU from our sidelines, I’m sure he’ll have a change of heart.
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Could be...
and in honor of your idea on this probability…I nominate PSUdevon to “shadow” him at the game – much like LaVarro shadowed T’aint. Keep ’em in your sights man and stay in his ear!!!
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by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 28, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll try
Maybe I can sneak him a walkie talkie and communicate throughout the game. Failing that, two coffee cans with a string.
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call me crazy
but, I prefer Thornton’s game. Floyd strikes me as one of those kids that peaked physically earlier than everyone else and is at or close to his ceiling.
Interesting story
My buddy who went to Liberty (same school as Anthony Gonzalez) said he’s seen Floyd play a few times, and that you’re pretty much right. He said he looks a hell of a lot more impressive than he plays, that he’s a physical specimen but needs a lot of work before he’ll be a solid D1 player. However, I’ll trust the experts that he is really really good.
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“he looks a hell of a lot more impressive than he plays, that he’s a physical specimen but needs a lot of work before he’ll be a solid D1 player”
You know, the same could be applied for Terrelle Pryor…
"Is that right?" Joe answered. "That’s not a problem. But you’ve got a problem. You don’t relate to me. And that’s a big problem."
by dmoney350z on Oct 28, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see sharif Floyd
And I see Charles rush, who was also a very highly rated high school DT.
by larchlion on Oct 29, 2009 1:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Iowa
I really wish we played those guys now instead of earlier in the season…we really seem to be playing some great football right now. Hopefully we can keep this going and at least make it to a BCS bowl. I guess “technically” we could make it to the Rose Bowl without winning the Big 10 if Iowa goes to the MNC game, but any BCS bowl would be fine with me.
I'd rather us go to the Fiesta Bowl
And play Boise State like one of the ESPN bowl analysts is projecting. I really, really want to play Boise State.
I was just about to type the opposite of this. Nothing would be fun about that for me, I’d rather get LSU in the cap-1 if it came down to that. Just my opinion though.
BSD
I second that.....
The SEC is not strong top to bottem this year. Finally this year the Big 10 may come away with some favorable bowl match-ups. Bring on an SEC opponent….. I really don’t care who beause no one nationwide is playing dominating football. Playing Pitt in the BCS would not be a bad consolation prize either. Boise or TCU are worthless games. If you win….you are expected to win and really don’t receive any credit for the “V”……if you lose the sky falls!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
Only if its actually in the Cap1 bowl will the favorable matchups occur
Big Ten gets bad matchups because the put two BCS teams up on the reg. That makes our number 3 go to the Cap1, #4 goes to outback and so on, and the mismatches happen.
by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
uh...yeah
except that the SEC will likely be sending 2 to the BCS as well, and so they’d be “even” matchups (unless you are saying that the SEC is in fact superior, therefore a #2 vs #2 matchup would be a mismatch for us…)
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 29, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We would KILL LSU
I’m serious. 20 to 6, 24-10 that kind of game.
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That would be sweet.
I haven’t seen much of them other than the Washington game they almost blew, but they haven’t really impressed me, despite being overrated just because they lost to the Tebows.
They stole a game from Georgia too.....
Ridiculous penalty call. Celebration penalty on AJ Green that basically gave the ball to LSU in Georgia territory. UGA is the Penn State of the SEC….seems like they are always getting screwed with ridiculous penalty calls. Hopefully the UGA team that beat Arkansas comes to play against the Gators this week. If they do they have a shot……would be a GREAT upset! Also glad to see VA Tech go down last night!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
I say play whoever falls in our lap, preferrably in a bcs game.
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"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
I'd be fine with Boise.
Like I said here before, it’s the benefit of playing a highly overrated top 4 team.
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by Run Up The Score on Oct 28, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
Boise State just rubs me the wrong way. I hate their uniforms, I hate the way they run their mouths, and I hate that they piss and moan about not getting any respect – then only schedule one team from a top 6 conference per year. I see Penn State as the karma police in the NCAA. i’d love to see us put Boise State in their place, just like Miami in 87. Then we’d wipe the dirt off our hands and let USC know they’re next.
by JoePa'sNotDead on Oct 29, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
Who the hell wants to schedule a home and home with Boise State? Nobody, that’s who.
Beat Northwestern.
Oh please no
Anyone but Boise State or TCU. If you lose that game, you are forever the team that lost to the Mid Major in a bowl game. If you win it, 10 years from now people will be saying, “Who’d you play again?”
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
I agree, I see no benefit, even if they're a top five team, in playing a mid major
I hope someone plays them and busts the hype bubble they all received this year after the Utah debacle, so they won’t be so quick to hype them up to the top ten next year, but I don’t want it to be us. It’s a lose-lose situation, no matter which way you look at it.
I don't understand
How these mid major’s get ranked so high. Before the Boise State/Tulsa game last week some of the ESPN analysts were predicting an upset win for Tulsa. I don’t understand how we’re suppose to respect these teams when they talk about how “Tulsa will be a good test for the Broncos.” A BCS conference team has to steamroll a team like Tulsa to not get bashed, these mid majors can just scrape by and it’s a solid win.
You can probably thank last years voters who kept Utah out of the MNC picture
for some reason, they seem determined to make it up to the mid-majors this year even though they’ve played no one except Oregon (BYU Oklahoma doesn’t count because Oklahoma sucks).
Boise State - Oregon BARELY counts..
Look me in the eye and tell me that grossly mismatched team they played then is the dominate Pac-10 team they are now. And they were sore winners.. God, how I hate sore winners. I wouldn’t mind watching that goofy bastard getting knocked out on a daily basis. I prefer to think BSU is the team that won a squeaker over Tulsa.
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
by chocochuck02 on Oct 28, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If you lose that game...
you are Pitt. A fate worse than death, I believe.
Only one more season to enjoy the Wannstache ...
by Finite Wisdom on Oct 28, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
excuse me sir(or madam)
but, what is a “pitt”?
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"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
I dunno about all that..
Oklahoma is still a top tier team right? Didn’t they last win a big bowl in the 50’s or something?
Deus nobiscum, quis contra?
by chocochuck02 on Oct 28, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Running for 700 is harder, and Michigan managed it two weeks ago...
LOL at “top-tier”
Playing Fatheads without the wall to support them is NOT indicative of good offense.
I disagree
Anyone but Boise State or TCU. If you lose that game, you are forever the team that lost to the Mid Major in a bowl game. If you win it, 10 years from now people will be saying, "Who’d you play again?"
Alabama losing to Utah in the Sugar Bowl last year doesn’t seem to be hurting them anymore.
Born and raised in the shadow of Mount Nittany
We're not exactly in a conference
with irrational, borderline fellating, hype coming from every sports media outlet.
I guess you did need to say more?
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man, I'm getting sniped by the Spartan tonight
Sparty must have refused to hold you in his fake foam rubber muscles last night
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 29, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Eventually Taylor Mays is going to paralyze somebody
But there is a better than even money chance it will be Taylor Mays.
Beat Northwestern.
by jesse. on Oct 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
I remember USC fans trying to justify the hit on Norwood in the video above. I was furious. Jordan ended up fine, but anytime you launch with your head to go helmet to helmet, knock out a WR, your fellow DB, and land with your leg on the WR’s head/neck, you are doing it all wrong.
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"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Oct 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not to offend anybody here, but its a shame when awful things happen to (apparently) good people like that guy from UConn...
But nobody will stab/shoot Mays. Fans of clean football could only be so lucky.
The even sadder part
is that until he hurts himself, everyone will brush aside the dirty hits, and he’ll end up getting a ton of money when he leaves for the NFL and gets taken high in the draft. Then, when karma finally catches up with him, ESPN and his coaches will be in tears over the loss of “such a great football player with so much promise”, and I’ll be sitting here with dry eyes and shaking my head.
In all honesty
you could never say it, but it’s true. You’d rather a little bitch goes down than a class act, though of course the alternative of nobody being stabbed is better.
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I’m not offended. I hate it when Karma does not show up to kick the ass of someone who deserves it (suck it dickhead at work who scrwed me over and got a promotion).
But then again, look at how it all ended for poor Andre “Dirty” Waters.
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
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Public Service Announcement from the National Football League
Nothing bad happens when you get a concussion. It’s all a coincidence. Nothing to see here, please dispurse.
The NFL is as forthcoming with information about concussions as Phillip Morris is about lung cancer and the addictive properties of nicotine.
Beat Northwestern.
yeah
did you read that recent Malcolm Gladwell article?
It is tough because brain injuries are so serious, and perhaps there’ll be ways to make concussions less common, but hitting is all a part of the game and it seems like a lot of the little hits in the trenches are as bad or even worse than the big hits like the ones Mays dishes out.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 29, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the thing
once it’s proven that Concussions cause brain damage, it becomes like cigarettes cause cancer.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to believe that 50 years from now football, as we know it, will be illegal. Because it appears pretty clear that concusions cause brain damage.
Beat Northwestern.
are cigarettes illegal?
For a free scholarship, would you risk brain damage? How about for millions of dollars in the NFL? Or maybe they’ll get special helmets that are padded to reduce the head’s movement after contact. A possible remedy.
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A few things
1. Penn State uses the Schutt Revolution helmet exclusively; it is a helmet that is designed specifically to reduce concussions. To my knowledge, and it’s limited, we are one of the only programs that does that, but I’m sure there are more. The NFL does not require any specific helmets, and certainly at that level, and still at many colleges the players continue to be allowed to choose.
2. The rub is, those helmets are expensive. At the High School level and below, most equipment is hand me down. In Pittsburgh, they give kids pads and a helmet in third grade. A guy in another post was bragging about his first grader, playing full contact football. And that he’ll be playing his ninth game this season.
3. How many cigarettes does it take to cause cancer? Nobody knows. How many concussions does it take to damage the brain? Similalry, nobody knows. Hell, nobody has the slightest idea what the long term effects of concussions are on a full grown man, let alone a first grader.
Ten years ago, you’d hear “player x got a concussion, he’ll be back on the next series”. Twenty years ago it “player x just got his bell rung, but he’s okay”. before that it was simply “player x is a wuss”.
Right now today, there are millions of kids playing football, being coached by insurance salesmen who think NFL scouts are watching, and if there is one athletic trainer within a mile of the field it’s because it’s at a rich school district.
D1A college ball and the NFL are red-herrings here. Of course the NFL has the finnancial resources to correct the problem. But they would have to admit there is a problem, and it would expose them to hundreds of millions of dollars in disability lawsuits. So they won’t.
But there is a long pipeline to the NFL, and it starts at the pop-warner level in elementary school. If you think those kids are going all out and throwing themselves around, your crazy. Broken bones, ankles and yes, concussions, happen all the time.
It’s a serious issue.
Beat Northwestern.
It's a shame this thread is going to get bumped soon
I think this is an interesting topic [obviously]
Beat Northwestern.
You never want to wish for someone to get hurt
but when you play dirty and try to kill everyone you hit just because you play on OMG USC BEST DEFENSES EVAR, it’s going to be really hard for me to dredge up any sympathy for you when you end up getting hurt yourself. Call it karma, and it can be a real bitch. Hopefully, Mays learns to play clean before it really bites him, but , but until then clearly Dirty Ol’ Pete isn’t going to scold him and tell him the legal way to hit someone.
After the USC game
I actually gave Mays the benefit of the doubt, because the hit was so wildly dangerous to him, I figured he didn’t do it on purpose. But he’s got a pretty established track record on these things at this point.
He won’t clean his game up until he eats about 100 grand in fines from the NFL. The Norwood hit alone would have cost him $25,000, the Rodgers one, as a second offense would probably net him $50,000.
Beat Northwestern.
Can you imagine
if Iowa ends up at #2 ahead of USC and goes to the rose bowl?
No, I can't.
Well, now that I think about it, maybe I can imagine the BCS even screwing that scenario up. If Iowa finishes #2 in the BCS, they’ll be going to the BCS Championship Game, which just happens to be played in the Rose Bowl (the stadium, that is). The actual Rose Bowl will still be played on New Years Day, and you can bet that a USC/PSU rematch would be a possibility.
yes that's what I meant.
Iowa going to the NC game in the rose bowl ahead of a USC team.
Frankly, they beat OSU, Iowa will have matched USC's far-and-away best win, and they'll have us.
USC doesn’t deserve it this year, no matter what.
Unofficial Visit
I say the Lions move on and just restrict him from coming into the Stadium. No reason not too throw the kid under the Hate Train before he even tries on a sweater vest or any other uniform
Wait a sec ...
… there were actually people worried about a fierce Northwestern crowd? I was there last year for MSU’s game, and I think the MSU fans outnumbered them 2:1.
I swear to god
someone on ESPN 1450 State College said the lack of noise would hurt Penn State, that they’re used to playing in front of the Beaver Stadium crowd and at the Big House last week, and that it would be so quiet it would freak them out and keep them from getting into a groove.
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Oh no!
I hope Joe Pa is wise enough to turn off the loud stadium simulation during practice, in order to simulate the silence they’re not used to hearing.
by PSUisMyHeart on Oct 28, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair
the PSU section was pretty loud
by PSUisMyHeart on Oct 28, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions

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