Who could be the next long-tenured coaches?
by InScoresOfOtherGames on Oct 29, 2009 12:32 PM EDT
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There will never be another Joe, but will there be another coach who's at the same school for even 20, 25 years?
There are a lot of factors that would determine whether a coach could stay at the same school for a significant amount of time - their age when they take the job, their family situation, their success, the program/booster's expectations, the opportunities that come knocking, etc.
I listened to a radio interview with Pat Fitzgerald and it got me thinking that he could be a guy who could be at the same school for 20-25 years. He's a Chicago guy, lived his whole life here, all his family is here, he has a decent recruiting pipeline, not onerous expectations of the program, and I'm not convinced he would give all that up for more $$.
Who else do you think could be at the same school for 20, 25 years?
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Ferentz
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
9 more years?
I thought the same thing and checked, he’s been at IA for 11 years, and he’s 54. I’m not sure he’ll make it
by InScoresOfOtherGames on Oct 29, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well with all due respect I thought 20 was too long to begin with
In this day and age
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ferentz is the answer
the nfl keeps calling and he keeps saying “no.” As RR will tell anyone, Iowa City’s a nice place, not unlike State College, if only half as charming. No reason to leave. Also, Iowa, like PSU has a tradition of keeping coaches for a long time.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on Oct 29, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Northwestern isn’t a real program. The only reason he’ll stay there is because 7 or 8 wins every year placates the “fanbase” and isn’t good enough to draw attention from the real schools.
NittanyWhiteOut.com. Arguably the second best Penn State blog I know of.
by PSUdevon on Oct 29, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not in this day and age
If a coach puts together a couple bad seasons these days he’s gone(See soon, Weis, Charley). If he puts together a few great seasons, he will get the attention of the NFL or a more prestigious college program and with the money the NFL and top tier colleges throw at their coaches, it would be hard to turn that down (See Rodriguez, Rich).
I could see maybe Saban or Meyer sticking around for a while, Meyer because he has a great deal and is having a lot of success right now, and Saban because it seems like the fans are absolutely loving him and he brought nearly instant success to the school when no one was expecting it. If he can keep it up through the rest of his contract and resist the urge to go back to the NFL I think he may be there a while. But not many coached beyond that.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
by Rogue Nine on Oct 29, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Saban or Meyer
Who does everybody think gets slammed/fired first for a major NCAA violation or for epically sucking?
Just curious.
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 29, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great question...
I am going with Meyer for the simple reason that I like Saban’s first name!
WE ARE.......PENN STATE!
by Nick7 on Oct 30, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beelzebub?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Oct 30, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude from VT.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Oct 29, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uh...considering he's already been there for 22 years
I think he qualifies
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 29, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that's easy
it’ll be Jay after he takes over for Joe.
"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"
by nitwit86 on Oct 29, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pete Carroll
He has been at USC for 9 years. There is no way he tries going back to the NFL and I can’t see him leaving USC for any other college.
Only question is if he is willing to coach into his late 60s
How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?
by psupride on Oct 29, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carroll could easily be the "fun-loving" version of Tom Osborne
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DOES NOT COMPUTE!
"I thought the kid we were using had the potential to be a good quarterback, and I blew that one." - Joseph V. Paterno
by leeharvey418 on Oct 29, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if USC has a few down years?
you think they’ll keep him around?
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 29, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how bad your "bad years" are
If he goes 7-5 a couple of years which would be considred bad for USC standards. I think he has earned the right to stay. Now if somehow he goes Charlie Wiess bad who knows
How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?
by psupride on Oct 29, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think USC
has any 5 loss seasons anytime soon; they get too much talent.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on Oct 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, everyone knows they just reload every year.
What talent dropoff?
coughwashingtoncoughcough
We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.
by psuwxman on Oct 29, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all wish...
but thats still their only loss.
When it becomes their 3dr the we can talk.
I still dislike their coach.
by bconway6 on Oct 30, 2009 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have thought Spurrier at Florida would have been the next one of this group, but he let his ego take him to the NFL.
by Laaaaazzz on Oct 29, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan Snyder money
is very difficult to turn down.
If you’ve been overdosing on vicadin and ’ludes for years, I hear Al Davis money can be tempting too.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Oct 29, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer not reading that name on a Penn State board
that and Uncle Vinny
by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 29, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need a Dan Snyder Hate Week
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
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by letsgopsu on Oct 29, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOOOVVVEEE Danny Snyder.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
by kmblue on Oct 29, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
boo Iggles
Go Phils
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
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by letsgopsu on Oct 30, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next year before the Indiana week
I’ll take care of it even tho I don’t give a Pryor about the Redskins.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is Dan snyder?
I dont pay nearly any attention to the NFL…
I’m all footballed out by Sunday.
by bconway6 on Oct 30, 2009 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redskins owner
major tool
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
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by letsgopsu on Oct 30, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on the school
To mash together comments from above, said coach would have to already be at a top tier program. Else, success breeds longevity. If you are successful at a lesser school, you’ll get offers from biggers ones and most of the time take those offers. Then your streak starts back up.
The more realisitic post is who is going to be the next big coaching change…Chip Kelly at Notre Dame? Someone at Michigan?
by PSUJunny05 on Oct 29, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jimbo Fisher at Florida State
WE ARE.......PENN STATE!
by Nick7 on Oct 29, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RichRod
The fanbase and alumni love him, plus he’s having tons of success with the spread at Michigan.
"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno
by Horse N Buggy on Oct 29, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Wannstedt at Pitt
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Illinois can tell you about success at Michigan...
And nice signature.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Nov 1, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In all seriousness...
Paul Johnson.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By which I mean, 10 years or so
That seems more reasonable to me. JMO
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOUR NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
by Roland86 on Oct 29, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOUR RULES ARE FUTILE AND PATHETIC
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's a perfect example of a man on the move.
Get to one program, do a bang up job, and then leave for greener pastures (see also, Rod, Dick). How long can he stay at GTech? Only as long as there are no openings at Bama, UGA, etc.
by PSUJunny05 on Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Peterson
Can’t see him ever leavinh Boise.
by STU Boy on Oct 29, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think if ND comes knocking
He’d bolt.
We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.
by psuwxman on Oct 29, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even after watching Hawkins
Bolt then suck at Boulder?
by STU Boy on Oct 30, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Lee
from 2012 until 2066
"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."
by noodlebucket on Oct 29, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2012?
That’s a pretty sh**y NFL career. Maybe 2020 to 2080.
by PSUJunny05 on Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Lee
retires in his prime ala Barry Sanders to pursue his true love Penn State Football
"Wherever you go, Penn State will go with you. You are now a part of her. Her image will be cast in your image. Your reputation will become her reputation."
by noodlebucket on Oct 29, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all honesty, i think Lee will be a longtime PSU coach.
I think he will be a coach at PSU by 2015!
WE ARE.......PENN STATE!
by Nick7 on Oct 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but hes already a player/coach
this counts right?
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on Oct 29, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say this
I don’t want Joe retiring until he wants to, but the thought of Sean Lee being a D-coordinator or LBs coach, while Scrap takes the helm and LJ takes the DC spot, and then possibly taking over as a HC down the line really excites me. I think he’d really make a great coach, but I do want him to have a great NFL career first.
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 29, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it wrong to have gotten...
a bit excited about tha thought? I mean really, it’s a pretty good one.
by bconway6 on Oct 30, 2009 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the love for Sean Lee as a coach
yeah, he had to sit out last year and helped “coach” a bit, but other than that we have ZERO idea how he is as a coach. We all want to assume he’d be great, but wouldn’t it be nice to, you know, have a guy with a little bit more experience before we start hoping he’ll be our D-coordinator?
Also, the kid hasn’t even finished playing college ball, let alone pro ball, let alone minor position coach yet…
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 30, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's meant to be seen as far down the line after a long, successful pro career
but the fact that he did step up and help out the coaching staff while he was hurt, makes me think he actually liked coaching. Obviously he’s not the kind of guy that’s just going to sit on the bench and sulk all season, but it’s not like the coaches forced him to put on the headset and khaki pants. He could have just helped out in practice and given advice to players on the sideline, but he took a more front-seat approach to helping out the team.
It was just a hypothetical post, “Somewhere down the line, wouldn’t it be awesome if….” and so on, nothing more. Above all I want him to get drafted and be extremely successful in the NFL so that he doesn’t need to coach. Down the line, if he really enjoyed his season as part of the coaching staff, it would be cool to see him come back to PSU.
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 30, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
when you said Scrap at the helm, it seemed more immediate, as I don’t imagine Scrap will be around for that long in order for Lee to start coaching.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 2, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
“Immediate” refers to the period in “three or four more years” when Joe decides to retire, just like the past 50,000 times he’s been asked the question.
by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 5, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bah
He doesn’t need to retire. College coaching on Saturday, NFL playing on Sunday.
Problem solved
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 30, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are the odds
we lose larry sr. to a head coaching job soon (ala after joe leaves)…one more blown knee by sean gets him d-line coach?
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Oct 29, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's say Joe retires....
Bradley takes over. LJsr slides into coach in charge of defense. Does Ron Vanderlinden hang around? Sean Lee sidles into LB coach.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Oct 29, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All that sounds feasible
Except for the JoePa retiring bit.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Oct 29, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he said it himself, 3-4 more years
of course, that was back in ’73
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 29, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm currently working on an anti-aging potion
if it works, JoePa will never have to retire! BWAHAHAHAHA!
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 29, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about the Redhead?
The only coach who has had to be alongside JoePa, stride for stride, rant for rant, year after year is Mike McQueary.
The kid must be doing something right. As coach of the wideouts, he has consistent quality performances from the group, and as recruiting coordinator, PSU is doing all right, thank you.
Sometimes I think his contribution, other than having to translate JoePa onto the Motorola System up to the Coaches Booth, is overlooked.
For The Glory,
Vote for Mike!
Elizabeth, the only person on earth working at the same job longer than JoePa.
by joefromboalsburg on Oct 29, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am constantly asked by non-Penn State fans (I do know some) “who is the redheaded guy Joe Paterno is always yelling at”?
Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
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by letsgopsu on Oct 29, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Red
You gotta figure he’ll move to QB coach once Joe retires in 2020. Galen will be gone too and JayPa would probably become in charge of offense.
by The Mess on Oct 29, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of this sounds feasible
Except the JoePa retiring bit.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Oct 29, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Big Red move to QB coach?
He’s been doing a great job with the wideouts. I’d pick him as a OC before Jay, and likewise, Jay has been doing a good job with the QBs, so why move him from that spot. Then again, if Jay really was the architect of the Spread HD, maybe he does have what it takes to run an offense.
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 29, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because that's the position he played
and the position he should have been coaching from the get go if not for some nepotism. At least that used to be the argument.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 30, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you can't deny the success of the WRs with him as a Wideout coach
I think I’ve heard it in interviews with our WRs, but him being a former QB actually helps the wideouts by getting instruction from a QBs POV. Who knows, maybe Big Red really wants the QB coach spot, but he’s been more than successful in developing WRs for PSU.
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 30, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richrod and WVU
oh wait……never mind
by scotty2hotty89 on Oct 29, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen it thrown out here yet, but I'm going to throw out Al Golden
Young guy, slowly, but surely turning around a struggling program (knock on wood, because I’d like to see him and Temple do well) into a pretty decent one. Good recruiter. He may not stay at Temple, but I could see him having a long career, but then again, if he really turns Temple around, he might very well stay there.
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 29, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he won't stay at Temple
and this isn’t about who will be a coach for a long time, but rather who wil lbe a coach at one institution for a long time
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 30, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Bryant at Kentucky
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mack Brown at North Carolina
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pete Carroll at New England
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
John Calipari at, um, anywhere
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rip Engle at Brown
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan Snyder
I’m a lifelong NY Giants fan….
I love Dan Snyder….
Reminds me of the Giants before the NFL stepped in and forced them to hire George Young. Sometimes the league has to do an intervention.
Reg4
by Regulator4 on Oct 31, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“I am constantly asked by non-Penn State fans (I do know some) "who is the redheaded guy Joe Paterno is always yelling at"? "
Must be part of his job description. Think about it. joe’s been yelling at him since he was 18 .
Reg4
by Regulator4 on Oct 31, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In all honesty, i think Lee will be a longtime PSU coach.
I think he will be a coach at PSU by 2015!
WE ARE…….PENN STATE!
I think he will be the Head Coach in 20 years .
That is of course if Joe decides to retire after he turns 103.
Reg4
by Regulator4 on Oct 31, 2009 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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