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Clark is getting some press this week of the "he's not getting any press" variety:

ESPN has a video asking: so why can't he win the Heisman?  (Answer in the form of a question: Who cares about the Heisman?)

Disrespect on paper: Clark didn't make the cut on the simis list.

Bill Kline is beginning to see a trend in Paterno's cryptic pressers:

This is how Paterno normally begins his campaigns for his players. He did the same with Courtney Brown, Larry Johnson and Michael Robinson, noting in October that each was the best player at his position in the country, which wasn't paying any attention.

Remember "former Nit Devlin"?  Of course you do...and you thought the debate was over when he transferred:

"[Devlin is] more of a poised quarterback [than Clark], he's better in the pocket, he has good mobility," [scout.com draft analyst Chris Steuber] said. "Clark has good mobility, as well, but Devlin just gives you the presence you want out of a quarterback. "Devlin, to me, just has better arm strength, he has better awareness in the pocket, delivers the ball on time. More of a complete quarterback at this time. I think when you look at Devlin, you see upside. I think when you see Clark, you see a project."

Yeah, so so much for respect. 

Thoughts?  Northwestern previews out shortly...

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That Clark/Devlin article is awful

Cory Giger is the worst. He has a radio show in State College too. Basically it involves him saying “I wrote this in the Altoona Mirror today” and getting callers opinions on that particular subject. He has been talking about a Pitt-Penn State Fiesta Bowl all week b/c of the article he wrote about that.

And this article-my Zug. Your sources include JayPa’s twitter, a JoePa press conference, and a video blog? And “Tom Jackson said on ESPN the other day”? I feel like it deserves the FireJoeMorgan treatment.

by speedomike on Oct 30, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

And collection of links about the Heisman and NFL draft isn’t going to attract much in the way of profound journalism.

Put perception is reality, right? [/angry sarcasm]

I miss FJM.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 30, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is he pulling the draft info from?

Devlin is “widely considered a 4th round pick in 2011”. Who is saying this?

by speedomike on Oct 30, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Steuber probably told him this and he ran with it.

He’s an expert. So I think we just take his word for it. What could go wrong?

Nothing more credible than a draft expert making projections in October.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 30, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In October 2009

for the 2011 draft. Shit, those are never wrong.

Beat Northwestern.

by jesse. on Oct 30, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

Do any writers/talk show hosts have any original ideas? Or do they get all talking points from TWWL? Everyone in Pgh has been running stories or leading with the Pitt/PSU Fiesta Bowl story. And, as you can see from Fug’s and Cpiritual27’s fanposts, it’s just stirred up the Pitt fanbase again. And the Pitt fanabse seems to be the only source of that vitriol.

by Spats on Oct 30, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This doesn't matter in any way.

So what if Devlin is a better NFL prospect? I have as much fun as everyone during draft time, but I think some NFL-obsessed fans view the NCAA as the “pre-NFL” where all players are emerging prospects. When I view an NCAA player, I view them as…an NCAA player.

Clark is, at the very least, as good as Devlin. Devlin would have had just as difficult a time operating behind that leaky offensive line in the Iowa game, so I don’t know what the benefit would be of having Devlin back there aside from some insurance if Clark were to be injured.

As it stands, I’m glad Devlin was here, I’m glad Newsome is getting some backup time, and I’m glad Devlin is proving himself on the field in Delaware. Go Blue Hens.

by Cairo on Oct 30, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nicely said, just to add to that

I’m extremely proud of Clark. And I’m extremely proud to have him as our QB. So what if he’s not a first round draft pick at QB? The guy lives and breathes Penn State. He’s a great leader, a better than great PSU QB, and the embodiment of Paterno’s Grand Experiment. He’s already shaping up to be one of PSU’s greats, both in character and play, and for me will always mean something to me since he was the starter during 2 of my years at PSU, and hold kind of a Michael Robinson-like status for me personally if I ever run into him in the future (and he seems like the type that would love to come back to his alma mater).

Sure, I would have liked Devlin to stick around and get his chance next year (for selfish reasons), but he took a different path, and I hold no ill-will towards him, and in fact, wish him all the best wherever he goes.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 30, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't wait for tomorrow's game

If Clark can put up 300 yards and 3 TD’s (not impossible against NW’s banged up secondary) I think he moves up to dark horse status in the Heisman race. Anything can happen from there in a year where no one wants to run away with the thing.

by jimbo2psu on Oct 30, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh

The true test will come against Ohio State. I think if he can put up 2 or 3 TD’s against that defense and Penn State wins comfortably, Clark starts to get mentioned for an invite to New York in December.

by BSD on Oct 30, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

^This^

I think his Iowa performance remains too nasty a scar on his resume, but a composed performance against brutus could bring some serious cocoa butter to it.

/acknowledging the lameness of the analogy, remains persistent

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 30, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully we don't go turtle at home though

We let things open up a bit a Michigan, and while overall tOSU’s d-line is better than Michigan’s (I should probably just say Brandon Graham alone), I think if the O-line continues to improve, we could put up similar numbers on tOSU. Maybe not to that extreme, but with a struggling running game, and Arm-Punt, Lee back in the LB mix, I think we have a great chance to shut down their offense to give our offense a chance to put up some points (and I haven’t been too impressed with tOSU’s secondary, so like Michigan, we have a chance to exploit that).

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 30, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, you should just say Brandon Graham alone

I would feel bad for him if he wasn’t playing for Michigan.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a case of someone who can’t admit he was wrong. Clark was a 2-star prospect, Devlin was a 4-star. Devlin was a hometown hero, Clark was some kid from Ohio who didn’t get much attention. Based on that Clark shouldn’t be a better college quaterback than Devlin, and there’s an enormous amount of reluctance from writers like this to admit as much.

People like Giger build a reputation on being these great prognosticators and the success of Clark makes him look foolish. He’ll continue to stick to his guns about Devlin, and he’s hoping like hell Devlin makes something of himself in the NFL or else he’s REALLY going to look like an idiot.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Oct 30, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't really read it that way

I don’t know that Giger was ever a huge Devlin guy. He’s not really one of these polarizing sportswriters/talk-show hosts.

I think he’s just a really crappy writer.

by speedomike on Oct 30, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is a kid from Philly

A hometown hero to a guy who writes in Altoona?

by jtw126 on Oct 30, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant to say Steuber, not Giger

Yeah I meant to say Steuber, not Giger in that rant there.

Steuber is from Philly and from I’ve seen he’s been stumping for Devlin pretty hard for a while now. Even with Clark’s outstanding performances and stats he’s still saying we should have started Devlin and benched Clark.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Oct 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares about the Heisman?

This just makes you sound bitter about the various PSU snubs over the years. Its the most prestigious individual award in all of sports. Sure, the voting process isn’t always completely fair, but the same thing is true for the MNC.

by VVeRPennState on Oct 30, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But at least the MNC has some level of attempted sanity, the Heisman has become a total s**tshow. It’s for the best player in college, except you have to be a quarterback from a power college and be ranked in the top 3-5.

Not to give credit to Pitt, but the Larry Fitzgerald snub was officially the end of that award for me. Any thing or group of people who thought Jason Frickin’ White was a “more outstanding football player” than LF is flawed on a level way beyond “isn’t always completely fair” IMO.

I’ll stop ranting now.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 30, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

^this

The last ten or so years of Heismans (Heismen?) have been terribly biased to the QB position, and offense in general. It’s a joke

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 30, 2009 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Same could be said for the NFL MVP award

QB’s simply have more impact on a game than any other position on the field. That leads to more media attention and more awards. Its takes a once in a generation type defensive player to have as much impact on a game as a QB.

by VVeRPennState on Oct 30, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is a difference between “most valuable” and “best”.

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 30, 2009 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

If you expect Clark to get any consideration, you can't complain about people voting for White.

White’s stats:
3846 Yds, 61.6%, 40 TD, 10 Ints

Clark’s projected stats:
3062 Yds, 62.1%, 28 TD, 11 Ints

by VVeRPennState on Oct 30, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But White had NFL talent at every position (we have some, yes) and couldn't throw anything BUT a fade.

Literally. The only pass he could throw was a fade.

And he won it for four wonderful years at the 3rd most overrated program in the country (#1 – ND; #2 VT)

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Oct 30, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that this means everything: but the guys wasn’t drafted, wasn’t signed as a free agent, and I think only got one invited tryout as a kind of courtesy. You can point to the numbers, but there is nothing in the heisman voting guide that say you can only look at the stats. Plus it’s not like LF’s numbers sucked.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 30, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I was agreeing with you. White got it on stats and two broken knees.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Oct 30, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I almost forgot about the comeback story. That didn’t hurt.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 30, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It also says nothing about being the best NFL prospect or most talented player. I am not saying he should have definitely won it, but I could certainly see people voting for him. The wording is so vague it leaves it up to the voter to decide what to base the award on. Some award it as an MVP, some as the most talented player, and some as the most impressive statistical season.

by VVeRPennState on Oct 30, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t mean to say it should go to the #1 draft pick, not at all, but it is somewhat telling when a guy who wins the award isn’t even considered for an NFL spot.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 30, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what you are talking about

He won the Heisman his second to last year in college and tore his ACL the two prior years. The award clearly was for the particular season and wasn’t of the lifetime achievement variety.

by VVeRPennState on Oct 30, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It definitely was. The media continued to talk about how he had come back from two injured knees...

And he didn’t get the medical extension until AFTER he won the Heisman.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Oct 30, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clark vs. Devlin

Maybe Devlin has a better arm, and maybe he’s more comfortable in the pocket. But there’s more to that to be a good quarterback.

How does he handle the huddle? Do his teammate respond to him? I’ll take a kid that can make his teammates want to jump off a cliff for him over a guy that goes through the motions and can’t inspire his teammates. I didn’t see a lot of leadership out of Devlin.

by BSD on Oct 30, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Easy? No.

But, any time a QB, back up or or not, come into the huddle, he needs to display confidence and leadership in the huddle. He’s the one who has to get things going and keep the team moving. With as close of a competition as it supposedly was between Devlin and Clark, either should have been able to come in to the game and take command of the huddle. If you can’t do that, you have a problem.

by MGPardoePSU on Oct 30, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't he though?

Devlin showed poise in the huddle at Ohio State last year. Fact is that he’s a good quarterback that got beaten out by a better quarterback. Nothing wrong with that.

by The Mess on Oct 30, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he did

I was merely commenting on the previous statement, not a direct comment on Devlin.

I’ve watched Devlin play a few games here in Newark and he definitely shows the leadership and command in the huddle here at Delaware.

by MGPardoePSU on Oct 30, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh, here we go

Leadership. From a quarterback. Just what does that mean? You’ve got a good starter list:
- comfort in the pocket
- hande of the huddle
- teammates’ responsiveness, want to follow him
- inspires teammates

I’d add only one, one I’ve been trumpeting around here for a few years now: Composure. Most often exposed during times of adversity.

Clark & Devlin had different styles. And after Clark ‘beat him out’, pretty different opportunities. Every year in the leadership discussion, some senior kid, usually a trench player, comes into a leadership position who might have previously been the quiet type (Landolt, Cadogen). And the coverage notes that this year he’s taking ‘a more vocal role,’ or even not sometimes: ‘I just lead by example, with my play on the field’ (Connor). DC’s a vocal leader, has been from day one back when it was as much woofing for his own ears and own confidence as it was for those around him. And it’s worked for him, as he continues to grow into it.

But not everyone leads with loudness. And often, it’s the quieter types who end up being most composed during times of extreme pressure and adversity. Let’s be careful how we treat the many meanings of Leadership.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 30, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree with this ^^^^

Wasn’t trying to get into too much detail while sitting here in Cubicle-World, but, I think you made a lot of good points.

by MGPardoePSU on Oct 30, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey jtothep,

or anyone else who knows, how do you set up the link to get it to automatically open up to the comment you want?

by PSUisMyHeart on Oct 30, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Timestamp

The timestamp on each post (so the "Oct 30, 2009 7:43 PM EDT) is a link – basically, SbN gives each individual comment it’s own comment number to link directly to. So just copy the link that’s attached to that timestamp and use that in your comment. When anyone clicks the link, they’ll be directed straight to that comment.

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Oct 30, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

That’s a pretty clever feature. Thanks IcersGuy.

by PSUisMyHeart on Oct 31, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still like Devlin- I check Delaware scores to see how he’s doing this year- but I’ve never wished we had him back instead of Clark. I really don’t think either would have been a bad choice.

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Your too sexy for the heisman Daryll!

It’s lost it’s luster and those chodes never gave you credit anyway. It’ a classic underdog story and we love it. Just keep throwin’ those zip-line laser shots and provin’ them wrong. It’s what you do. You Are Legend! Now go show jNW where the real nerd-jocks are. GO STATE!!

by penntatefan on Oct 30, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I kind of find it odd....

That Devlin chose to wear #17 at Delaware. Reading through some of the old articles from Delaware Head Coach K.C. Keeler, Devlin chose that number.

Why would you choose the number of the guy who beat you out of a job at your former school? Motivation?

by MGPardoePSU on Oct 30, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it was his high school number?

I don’t know, only speculating.

by jtw126 on Oct 30, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but Devlin just gives you the presence you want out of a quarterback

What does this mean exactly? That you notice he’s there?(even though he quit) That he’s handsome? That he looks like the QB you want?

And if DC was a “project”, would you really work with him as a project if he didn’t have any “upside”?

Holes in their logic like swiss cheese. I’m sorry I clicked the link.

by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 30, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's white?

Is that what this is all about? You know, like the same people who think Clark is a running QB. That kind of crap?

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I was gonna say the same thing

the guy means he’s white.

That was one of the worst articles I’ve ever read.

Also, I watched a bit of the Deleware Richmond game at the beginning of the year and UD was running the zone read. I don’t know if they have different coaches since Flacco, but I don’t understand why Devlin would choose a place with that offense if he was trying to increase his pro stock.

by whiteoutonly on Oct 30, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Presence

Like the kind of calm you want out of a quarterback? The kind that doesn’t jump-throw the first of 3 picks way over a wideopen receiver in a huge loss to Iowa two years in a row? Of course, you have to beat out the first string receiver to even get an opportunity in that first Iowa game.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 30, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying Devlin's not a good QB, because he is

but to say that he’s infallible to mistakes, the he would be more poised after experiencing concussions, is severely misguided. scouts and rivals are honed in on arm strength, height, weight, and speed to a fault. This on top of the fact that he’s not on the team anymore is somehow three strikes against DC.

The QB that has thrown the most TD’s in school history cannot seem to catch a break. It’s really bizarre.

by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 30, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I pointed out earlier

the guy saying “they let the wrong QB go” is the same guy who’s been hyping Devlin since he was a recruit, oh and he just so happens to also be from Philly too…

These self-proclaimed “experts” really get defensive when they’re wrong — and Stueber was wrong about Clark, he’s definitely not some “project QB” or simply a good runner who can throw once in a while — and yet he continues to hammer on those points.

The bottom line is everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it becomes offensive to me when this guy looks past all the oustanding acheivements Clark has made, just because on paper Devlin looks like the better QB.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Oct 30, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I'm not saying he's infallible, because he's not

And I’m not even saying, like that writer is, that we let the wrong one go.

I am saying that it’s possible Devlin may be more poised under pressure. Something we’ll never know because when Joe decided he wanted to protect the starter, he didn’t even give the second-stringer a chance—he went with a wide receiver under center. I’d also say that the quarterback who has scored (not thrown) seems to have caught far more breaks than the one he ‘beat out’ at the start of last season.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 30, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't criticizing you, per se

It just irks me that whenever the DC/Devlin controversy pops up, the debate immediately goes to what DC had done wrong in the past. And when that happens, my mind wonders if the rebuttal is trying to infer that Devlin would not have made the same mistakes under the same circumstances.

Again, it’s stupefying how this debate crops up with certain writers, especially those from Philly. They are definitely not worth impressing given their queer standards.

by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 30, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clark vs. Devlin is a moo point

And 2009 is turning out just fine as Clark continues to grow into his Leadership role, even tho Iowa modified the one-game season this schedule set up to be. DC’s got two big games left: against a brutus front seven that is better, faster and deeper even than the one that knocked him out in the Shoe last year, and the bowl game. History will tell if he’s got enough ‘presence’ to win them or not.

The real hypothetical (so to speak) question is Newsome vs. Devlin. Also moo, granted, but not b/c Newsome wouldn’t have come here if Devlin was still here. Moo because JoePa made this bed when he put DWheels under center. Now who is going to lead us into Tuscaloosa next September?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 30, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and for the record

I won’t be surprised is DC17 does indeed have the presence. He looked mighty chill throughout most of that Michigan game. But Brutus is gonna bring a two-headed Brandon Graham in Heyward and Gibson; and Rolle, Spitler and Homan put scUm’s LB’s to shame. But he might do it. Our Oline is better and may give him enough time to relax and make his reads. It’s just that my jury is still out on how he learns. I thought he looked like he had advanced tremendously, chillin in the pocket against a pretty tough trojan front seven in the Rose Bowl, but a whole year later Adrian Clayborn and Broderick Binns again had him quaking in his boots.

I won’t be surprised if he does man up (in the real, non-wooffy sort of way), and sadly, I won’t be surprised if he mentally crumbles either, and tosses the game away. In either event, I’m pulling for him. Hard.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Oct 30, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A moo-moo point?

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Oct 30, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs


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