Grading the Penn State Defense Against Illinois
Well it sure feels good to be back to winning games again. Even though Illinois is a pretty downtrodden team this season, it's a game a lot of people picked us to lose when the year began, and any win on the road in the Big Ten is a good win. It's a little disappointing that the defense gave up 17 points after Ohio State shut out the Illini last week, but Illinois two touchdowns came in the fourth quarter when the game was well in hand and Joe Paterno had called off the dogs. So overall I'm pleased with the performance. Let's grade out the defense.
Defensive Line
When you play a team like Illinois the challenge for the defensive line is to stick with their assignments. The Illini try to trick you and fake you with counters and fake handoffs and zone read options. I thought the defensive line did a fantastic job. Illinois only managed 130 yards and averaged 3.7 yards per carry. Juice was the leading rusher with 81 yards, so every time Dufrene got the ball he didn't get far.
The defensive ends were outstanding. Jack Crawford and Eric Latimore did a fantastic job of containing the outside runs and forcing Juice to keep the ball on the zone reads where he got gobbled up by the defensive tackles and linebackers. Crawford and Latimore each got a sack in the game, and when they got pulled late in the second half the true freshman Sean Stanley came in and made a fantastic play swatting the ball out of Juice's hand for a Penn State fumble recovery. The defensive ends are coming along quite nicely.
The defensive tackles were unnoticeable, but they ate up blockers and allowed the linebackers to roam free and make plays.
Final Grade: A
Linebackers
Navorro Bowman and Josh Hull played well. It looked to me like Illinois didn't want anything to do with Bowman and was running away from his direction most of the day. But he still managed to get seven tackles and a TFL. Josh Hull was great in the running game as usual. But I still think he's a liability in the passing game. Bradley sent him on a lot of blitzes. He got there once or twice, but for the most part they were ineffective and he either got gobbled up by a guard or cut down by a running back. Illinois had success attacking the medium-deep middle over the linebackers and under the safeties just like everyone else has. This part of the defense has to tighten up. But Hull and Bowman were monsters in defending Illinois' wide receiver screen plays.
Both guys did a good job of containing Juice when he decided to run, which was often. It looked like Bowman was assigned as a spy when Illinois was in long distance situations where they had to pass. There were a few times when Juice got flushed out of the pocket and Bowman made a nice open field tackle to bring him down short of the sticks.
The third linebacker spot was a platoon of Bani Gbadyu and Nate Stupar. Neither one played particularly well. In the first quarter Gbadyu was getting shoved out of the way by Arrelious Benn which allowed Illinois to get some nice running plays. So he got pulled in favor of Stupar who did slightly better. But neither guy was great. We're really missing Sean Lee.
Grade: B
Secondary
For the most part the secondary did a good job. Juice managed 263 yards passing and a touchdown, but a lot of that came in garbage time. Benn was relatively contained to 96 yards on five catches.
D'Anton Lynn and Stephon Morris continue to impress me at cornerback. Lynn was fantastic in fighting through blocks to stop a few wide receiver screens. Morris was challenged a few times and came up big each time. He also had the interception just before the half that he nearly ran back 100 yards. Again, Illinois had their success in the passing game by attacking the linebackers and safeties. The corners are doing just fine.
The safeties definitely have to tighten up. Sukay was slow to rotate on Juice's touchdown pass, and then he finished it off by drawing a personal foul for a helmet to helmet hit. The Big Ten is really frowning on these this year, so we'll see if there is a suspension coming later in the week. Given the opponent next weekend, I bet the conference tries to make a statement while not really hurting Penn State that badly. It was a vicious hit, and I can understand if the conference penalizes him, but I hope they'll also look at the hit Daryll Clark took earlier in the game. After a scramble Clark went down and an Illinois defender came flying in after Clark was on the ground and speared him in the back with his helmet. It was clearly a play designed to injure the opponent. Clark got up in visible pain in either his back or shoulder. If Sukay gets suspended, I hope the Big Ten will look at that play too.</commentary>
Final Grade: B
Special Teams
Some good, some bad this week. The kickoff returns continue to look anemic. A.J. Wallce got a look today with Devon Smith recovering from a concussion. On two kickoff returns he got a total of 21 yards. Neither return got past the 15 yard line. One return was just a boneheaded decision by Wallace who ran it out of the endzone. The other looked to me like the wedge set up and took off way too early allowing the Illinois gunners to run in untouched to make the play.
Jeremy Boone was amazing...again. Average of 49.5 yards with a long of 66 and two kicks pinned inside the 20. Ho hum. There was one close call though where another punt was almost blocked. Boone rushed to get it away and Illinois got a touchback out of it. This has to get fixed. Every team going forward is going to be coming after us considering the past two games.
Wagner didn't get any field goal attempts, but it looks to me like he has changed something on the kickoffs. He just looked like he's getting more hangtime this week and it helped the coverage team tremendously. Benn had one nice return for 33 yards, but four of the other five returns were held under 20 yards.
Nothing special in the punt return game as usual. We're just fair catching everything this year, and Royster almost blew that with a muffed catch that he was fortunate to recover.
Final Grade: B-
Defensive Coaching
It's hard to complain about much here. The Illinois offense was pretty ineffective, but not as ineffective as when they played Ohio State. Like I said before, defending an option team like Illinois is about knowing your assignments, and in that regard the players were very well prepared. Illinois couldn't find any big holes to exploit in the running game.
But in the passing game I will continue to rail against the Cover 3 until things change. I hate it with the passion of a thousand suns. It's not that it's a bad defense, it's just that I get sick of seeing it on every 2nd and 10 or 3rd and 7. I've never played a down of organized football in my life, but I can sit on my couch and see they are in Cover 3 before the snap, so I'm sure the quarterback sees it too, and I'm sure the offensive coordinator has already called a play to exploit it. Illinois did so all day connecting on multiple medium range throws underneath the safeties. Ricky Stanzi picked us apart last week picking up eight or nine yards on every second and long situation.
For the love of God, please mix it up. I understand the bend-don't-break-defense. Make your opponent use eight or nine plays to march down the field. The more plays you can force, the more likely they are to make a mistake. And the more time they consume in moving the ball is less time they have to score. But come on, do we have to just GIVE THEM YARDS?
Like I said last week, Paterno needs to be commended for changing the offense in 2005 into the dynamic Spread HD we see today. He realized that four yards and a cloud of dust just doesn't cut it anymore if you hope to be a champion. But he still hasn't figured out that defenses have changed too. It's no longer about sitting back and reacting to what your opponent does. The nasty defenses today are the ones that attack and force the offense out of what they want to do. I see signs of it here and there with a corner blitz or an occassional man-to-man, but we need more of it. Keep the offense guessing just like our offense does to their opposing defense.
I won't be satisfied until we beat ever opponent 65-0.
Final Grade: B
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It's pronounced Dushane.
Do you think the people ABC gets to cover these games just has a list of players in front of them? Do these guys do any background work on the game at all? Zug H. Pryor, it was like my dead grandmother could have announced a better game.
by PSUJunny05 on Oct 5, 2009 8:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's Craig James calling games after essentially being demoted
off the halftime show. Set the expectations pretty low. I believe he also does the Thursday night games, so he probably does not put in a whole lot of prep work.
by cpm126 on Oct 5, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking about the other one. Mike Patrick, I believe.
He called Dufrene (Dufresne?) by the wrong name at least 3 times that I can remember. Every time he said Dushane I wanted to punch someone. And I wasn’t even rooting for the guy!
by PSUJunny05 on Oct 5, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked like Clark had the wind knocked out of him by that hit.
It was the right spot and he seemed unaffected after two plays.
by Cairo on Oct 5, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Young guys
It is great to see these young guys like Lynn Morris and Stanley having an impact. I think Stanley is going to be the next elite D-Lineman Johnson produces. Hopefully we can get more of the young guys experience this week.
by cjj127 on Oct 5, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This returns me to a thought we've seen before...
But Stanley was a 2* wasn’t he? And LJSr. saw something in him. Now, we’ve had one or two 4*s on the d-line most years, but think of what he can do with all the 4*s he’s got this year, as well as hopefully big Mr. Floyd.
by psume06 on Oct 5, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was very pleasantly surprised with the play of the DE's.
Maybe Illinois doubled the inside guys or whatever. They seemed pretty quiet. Crawford, Lattimore and Stanley played very well.
What they all did well was keep Williams contained. Good job by the DL, but they have been good for all five games IMHO.
We need Sean Lee back. He is a joy to watch play LB.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
by PaJoe on Oct 5, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like to take a moment to complain about the refs
because hey, they’re an easy target. In this game, the refs seemed to call holding if it occurred in the inside. However, it seemed that the tackles were basically permitted to hold the defensive ends on any outside rushes they took. The play that really aggrevated me was when Illinois had the ball on the one and hit that 20 yard pass. The holding on Lattimore was atrocious, the offensive tackles basically had him in an underhook and was hanging on for dear life. I figure the refs will always be a little lenient in the end zone, since the outcome would be a safety. However, continually ignoring these type of calls really takes away from the game.
by cpm126 on Oct 5, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't even pay attention to it anymore
It only bothers me when the announcers are stupid. I.e. Collinsworth talking about James Harrison’s lack of production while San Diego’s tackle is holding onto his jersey instead of blocking him.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 5, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean...
I also enjoy the opposite when they say that so and so is doing a good job pass protecting and show a highlight of him with an arm hooked and a hand full of jersey.
I think the refs call this pretty even through the big ten, and that is not my complaint. The problem is when you take a big ten team out of the big ten and all of a sudden they look like slow idiots because they cannot handle a speed rush to save their lives.
by cpm126 on Oct 5, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He realized that four yards and a cloud of dust
Since when were we getting four yards, I always thought it was three.
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by Kunza on Oct 5, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and a passing game entitled
“how many different out routes can you run from the I-formation”
by cpm126 on Oct 5, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I’m not a fan of suspending players so easily, and while I don’t like helmet to helmets, if they are called on the field I think the punishment has been served. The refs have the option to eject a player if it’s bad enough, but If you start suspending every player after the fact for every helmet to helmet or slightly over-the-top hit you’re going to have a couple of guys out of each game every week.
This isn’t to say I agree with Mgoblog’s whole argument about how players uppercutting dudes in the jaw should just be passed off as “well that’s part of the game.” That’s in no way part of the game. It’s a fine line, I realize, but throwing a punch well after the play and a live-action mid-air hit aren’t the same thing.
BSD
by Kevin HD on Oct 5, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In a lot of ways, as players continue to emulate the pro game,
safety has become a position where your sole purpose is to kill defensless receivers and make interceptions, while missed tackles that allow 50 yard gains are overlooked. Did anyone see the end of the Broncos vs Cowboys game for example?
With that said, Sukay’s play and hit really have nothing to do with that IMO. He simply reacted to try to prevent a touchdown. He’s certainly not the Taylor Mays or Roy Williams type who base their game off this type of thing.
by cpm126 on Oct 5, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's a question
what if Sukay’s hit caused an incompletion. Do you still flag if you see the hit knocking the ball loose or do you flag only if the receiver catches it?
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by Kunza on Oct 5, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a really weak helmet to helmet
Maybe not in intensity, but it was the kind of thing where Sukay was looking to try to pop the ball out, but was late to the play and so the guy’s head ended up where the ball was when he was in full jump. Therefore helmet to helmet. There was no intent to injure… heck, it’s football.
If you want to suspend anyone it should be the guy who hit Clark after the play.
Oh, or the Penn State player who had that “late hit” out of bounds
Craig James (who I despise) called it a “Late lay down on the guy”… I lol’d
/refs sucked
by AdamShell on Oct 5, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would say it was one of James' better games (with regards to psu bashing)
that’s still not saying much. at least he didn’t call joepa and “old fart”, or whatever the hell it was.
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Oct 5, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question......
If Sukay’s hit was a flag……why was the hit on the Washington receiver in overtime of the ND game not flagged? That player literally had his helmet knocked off by two ND defenders which prevented the Washington receiver from catching the ball. A much more malicious hit IMO. It seems like the helmet to helmet flag is still a judgement call by the officials and if it is going to be a flagged offense it shouldn’t be.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
by pic15 on Oct 5, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
from my perspective
the DB who hit him in the front hit him in the chest, below the helmet. the DB coming in from the back hit him sort of down into the first guy, knocking the helmet off. when they replayed it in real-time, it looks awful. but when they slow it down, from my recollection, you can see it wasn’t helmet-to-helmet, it was just 2 guys making a play on the ball who arrived at it at the same time.
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Oct 5, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
You don’t get knocked out cold by getting hit in the chest… That guy was absolutely out cold after that hit. Until yesterday, I thought he was dead.
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by TheGunslinger on Oct 5, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shame on NBC for not even checking back on that kid...
that was awful. I was truly concerned for that kid and all I got was that wonderful fatman and pickleboy extended coverage from the foireann Jtot Notre Dame (Irish translation this time)
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by TheMightyErik on Oct 5, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, you bastard!
You better hope we lose another one and can’t go to the Rose Bowl, or we’re on collision for an epic golf course throwdown.
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by jtothep on Oct 6, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bring it on! lol...
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by TheMightyErik on Oct 6, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bring it on! lol...
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by TheMightyErik on Oct 6, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please for the love of Zug
someone take pictures if they start brawling on the golf course. Someone can photoshop a ND shirt on jtot.
by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 6, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My vote
Bowman, When Juice was on the loose Bowman seemed to be the one player out there with parallel athleticism — and he simply wasn’t going to get juked or ran over by Juice. When Juice met up with Bowman in the open field, Bowman stopped him in his tracks every time.
Also Lynn continues to impress me and I would have voted for him if he was an option — he’s very close to being a shutdown corner and yet rarely do you hear anyone during the broadcasts mention him (that’s good thing). From what I could tell the big plays to Benn were when they lined up Benn away from Lynn — b/c Lynn matched up so well with him. I think we have ourselves a very under-rated CB, and with that size he’s going to match up well with the elite receivers in the conference.
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by millzners on Oct 5, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the only reason i didn't consider bowman
is that i remember seeing him whiff on an open field tackle, where the RB essentially ran at him, which resulted in a somewhat-big first down.
unfortunately i can’t remember at what part of the game this occurred.
We decide when you hear the snap count...
by thedrizzle on Oct 5, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Plus the fact that Bowman’s presence influenced Illinois’ offensive approach limiting their attack.
I am thinking (hoping) we rest Lee yet another week against EIU then play him against the Gophers…it sure would be nice to see them both on the field! The contrasting view would be to give him limited time this Saturday to let him get his game legs back. Either way I am good with that. Besides, their are people far smarter than me making the decision.
by ljdevine on Oct 5, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CBs
I just enjoy the fact that the announcers aren’t calling either Lynn or Morris’ names. The less the CB’s names are called, the better it is for us.
The safeties…. when will Hodges be up to snuff enough to hit the field??
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by kmblue on Oct 5, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not soon enough, I’ve been very disappointed in our safeties.
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by millzners on Oct 5, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When are we ever not disappointed in our safeties?
That’s starting to annoy me.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 5, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
/not sarc
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 5, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No poll option for Hull's mustache by itself?
Come on, that thing is starting to look sharp.
by WorldBFat on Oct 5, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
such a great call on that one... I couldn't agree more
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by TheMightyErik on Oct 5, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with the special teams grade
Wagner still can’t reach the endzone on kickoffs
Our kickoff return team had back to back returns inside the 15 (when’s the last time that’s happened)
Punt returns continue to be shaky – Royster is not a natural return guy.
by brd119 on Oct 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Understood
But it wasn’t all bad. Though Wagner’s kicks were short, he got good hang time and the coverage was good. And Boone is a monster. Overall I thought the special teams were good with the weak link being the kick returns. I didn’t think it was a performance worthy of a failing grade. It’s not like special teams cost us the game like against Iowa.
Mike
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