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There Will Be No Preview Today - Blame Curley


Fridays are usually a light day for your BSD moderators. Usually around Wednesday I start thinking about what I'm going to write in my Friday preview. Then I'll send a reminder to RUTS and Kevin to get me their previews so I can put a post together. By Thursday night we usually have our previews put together, layed out, and scheduled to run sometime on Friday morning. Then we let you, the reader, have the rest of the day to talk about whatever you want.

But this week was different. By late Thursday afternoon I realized there had been no discussion between the three of us about putting our previews together. I hadn't put any effort into thinking about what I was going to say. Then it hit me and I realized why. I really don't care.

And really, why should I? This game isn't even good enough for a noon start on ESPN2. Instead they're putting it on ESPN Classic where it should reach about 53 people nationwide. Why even bother? It's not even good enough for the Big Ten Network for goodness sakes. If the Big Ten doesn't care, why should we? This is the fourth crappy game on the schedule out of our first six games this year. I waited eight long months through the spring and summer until opening day arrived, and now we're six weeks into the season and I am completely bored with the whole thing. So forgive me if I really don't care to put the time and effort into doing a preview today.

And honestly, the offense and defense reviews are kind of up in the air at this point too. RUTS doesn't get ESPN Classic, and something tells me he's not going to drive three hours tomorrow morning to see this game. Kevin is at that stage in life where all his friends are getting married so he has a wedding to go to every other week including this one. (I've been there, dude, and it sucks. But it just lasts a few more years. Then you have to buy baby gifts all the time.) Myself, I have to take my kid to his soccer game while the game is going on. Don't get me wrong, I'm really looking forward to it and really enjoy going to his games. I'll set the DVR, but I really don't know if I'll watch the game later or not. I would probably rather watch some of the 3:30 games. And there's no way I'm missing Florida and LSU Saturday night. Then on Sunday I have church in the morning and the NASCAR race in the afternoon. On top of it all, my mother-in-law is in town for the weekend so I kind of have to do the family thing. Just think about that for a moment: Spending time with my mother-in-law...might beat out the Penn State game. So if I do watch the game, it may be Monday or Tuesday until I get around to it, and by that point where's the value in doing a review?


Sadly, this is what you get when your athletic department uses the Big Ten bye week to make some extra bucks by scheduling the Saint Catherine's School for the Blind junior varsity team. They take you, the Penn State fan, for granted. They lump this game in with all the others in the season ticket package. They know you will buy it because you have to if you want to see Ohio State in Happy Valley a month from now. They've got you by the balls and they know it.

I know for a fact that the athletic department knows this blog exists. So I hope somebody is reading it today. If you don't care about the fans enough to put somebody with a heartbeat on the schedule, don't expect me to care enough to put any effort into covering the game.

So there will be no preview today, and I don't care. Blame Curley. 

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+1 indeed

"Victory without honor is an unseasoned dish. It might fill you up, but it won't taste good" - Joe Paterno

by MilroyBoozer on Oct 9, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I’m wrong, but wouldn’t it be better to play a decent team we don’t have to give a payday to? The stadium would actually fill, the game would be on a real network (exposure’s good, right) and it’d at least stand a chance of improving the Televen’s rep- which would keep up the chance of more elite bowl games (2 BCS teams rather than one) and end up making more money (and benefitting the program as a whole more)? Or am I way off base? I understand MAC teams, and an occasional FCS team if someone backs out, but this should not be the norm.

If you want a cheap guaranteed win, we can just start playing Pitt.

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 9, 2009 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

…ok, one too many question marks there. I blame Curley.

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 9, 2009 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Problem

You need a team willing to play one game in Happy Valley with no home game in return. No BCS school is going to do that. And all the FBS schools are in their conference schedules right now, so nobody is available.

Personally, I would rather they just take the week off to give everyone a break. Add the extra game on at the end of the season when you can probably get a better opponent.

by BSD on Oct 9, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Extra game

Didn’t the NCAA use the argument for the longest time that you couldn’t have a playoff because the extra games would eat into class time for the players?

Until the extra game meant $$$, then it was ok.

So instead of adding 1 or 2 extra games for 8 teams, we added 1 game for every team. And instead of adding wildly popular games, we added games that disgust people about the sport.

Makes sense.

"I want to eat some dessert." - Brandon Ware

by The Man with One Black Shoe on Oct 9, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

In case any Charter consumers do want to watch the carnage....

Earlier this year I had to add an additional sports tier for the wife as UGA was playing on ESPN Classic. It costs $5 extra month. Actually looking forward to seeing Kevin Newsome and some of the younger guys play in this scrimage.

That said this scheduling of a FCS/I-AA school is ridiculous. The NCAA is actually just as much to blame as anybody as they let schools count 1 FCS win toward the bowl total. If they did away with this pitful rule….we would see less of these ridiculous game!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?

by pic15 on Oct 9, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Charter

Wow someone else actually has Charter. I thought I was the only one stuck with this misery! I hope the young guys get lots of playing time.

by cjj127 on Oct 9, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you answered my question about

actual live games on ESPN Classic. There has been at least one before PSU-EM.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 9, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michigan vs. Minnesota

was on last year or the year before. They basically used it as an overflow channel.

by Wlvrn99 on Oct 9, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it too complicated?

is it too complicated to schedule 2 Big 6 games and 2 I dont care games every year, I bet given the big 10 schedule, its easy to schedule games so you get 7 home games plus 2 good opponents. All you need for this a pair of balls and basic elementary education, I am hoping Curley atleast went to High school, now whether he has the balls, I guess not

Hope we see better times

by karmagod123 on Oct 9, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

+10000 and a pat on the back.

Good for you. There is no reason to do a preview. Heck, my Hate Week post was grounded in the utter irrelevance of this weekend’s game.

I also know the Athletic Department will not care one bit. I know it’s not easy to fill 8 spots on the schedule, and they have to pay the bills for all of the expansions, but this has been the single worst season I’ve experienced as a PSU fan—and it’s solely due to the quality of the opposition we’ve faced in the opening weeks of the season. It’s a joke. I’ve looked at the future schedules and know that this year is an exception rather than the rule, but Curley blew it this year.

Even during the dark years, I was excited and passionate in my fan support, always looking for the big upset and being angered at the result. I wasn’t happy, but I cared. This year is marked by apathy. Even my friends who have moved back to State College have commented that there is a lot less energy in town before games.

by Cairo on Oct 9, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Comcast....

apparently I don’t get espn classic, and I don’t understand why. I have all these other espn channels but not that one.

I guess I have to pony up and order whatever this month so I get the game. Would like to see some of the younger players.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 9, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Just something to try

Tell you cable provider you’re “thinking about upgrading” but you want a three month trial for free first to see. You might be surprised what they can do. I’ve always been amazed at the kind of stuff I can get if I just ask for it.

by BSD on Oct 9, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree here

When my girlfriend and I moved in together, we threatened Comcast with a switch to Verizon. They decreased our monthly bill and gave us a year of HBO. BAM!

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 9, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

and its the sports tier

on directv, 12.99 a month, or if you sign up for it on friday, drop it on sunday, about a buck. well worth it.

Ben and Alex... first commits for 2024, but temporarily replaced, since i couldnt resist the sign

by 3Yardout on Oct 9, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i missed last weeks game b/c i was being a good friend

…and went to Clarion’s Homecoming game (it was like watching a high school football game)…so i really don’t want to miss to games in row…but, i can’t justify blowing off my family who is in town for my birthday for Eastern Illinois. i figure as i’m shopping, i can dip into some bar for an update on the game.

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Oct 9, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m with Mike, this is tiring. Next week will be week six, damn near half-way through the season, and we’ve had just 2 football games we realistically cared about and only six quarters of entertaining football.

I’m hoping things will change once we start the meat of it, but honestly when you have this long and this lame of a build up, you deflate the energy before the season ever had a chance. Plus we haven’t even played Indiana yet.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 9, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Chris Morelli was right

We should have joined the Big East. Meaningful games every week.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I can’t even imagine, and honestly you just pulled the “there are starving kids in Africa!” card on me and it worked.

This is Rutger’s schedule:

9/07 Cincinnati 0-1 (0-1) L 47-15
9/12 Howard 1-1 (0-1) W 45-7
9/19 Florida International 2-1 (0-1) W 23-15
9/26 @ Maryland 3-1 (0-1) W 34-13
10/10 Texas Southern 3:30 PM
10/16 Pittsburgh ESPN360.com 8:00 PM
10/23 @ Army ESPN360.com 8:00 PM
10/31 @ Connecticut TBA
11/12 No. 23 South Florida ESPN360.com 7:30 PM
11/21 @ Syracuse TBA
11/27 @ Louisville TBA
12/05 West Virginia TBA

That somehow cheered me up.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 9, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin, speaking of ESPN360...

in addition to Classic this beauty is also on ESPN360.

Anyone have experience with 360? We just got it and I guess my bandwidth can’t handle the feed because it clips and freezes for minutes at a time.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 9, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Millersville?

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Oct 9, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Villanova?

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 9, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

what are the six quarters of entertaining football?

4 in illinois
1 in iowa
1 in akron?

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Oct 9, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scheduling this game

is a disgrace, and no I don’t care if other teams do it as well, we can and should do better.

I’ll be curious to know how many people show up and how long they stay. At least with Coastal Carolina last year, you had opening day, summer weather, and could dream of an undefeated season. Now you have none of that.

by Joe 96alum on Oct 9, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

You're right about the CC game

It was the first game, so everyone was excited to go home to PSU, tailgate, see old friends, etc etc.
A cupcake in the middle of the season is a major letdown.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Oct 9, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I picked a good weekend to plan a bachelor party

I’ll be teeing it up right around kickoff, so I guess its win-win for me as the alternative is NOT watching it on ESPN Classic. I’ll catch the highlights at halftime of the OSU-UW game. Then I’ll put action on the real games in the evening. Got a nice little Saturday planned…

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 9, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

NASCAR? Really Mike?

I don’t mean to ruffle anyone’s feathers, but how is that a sport? Which left turn so far this season has been your favorite?

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 9, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

It's A Sport

Competition + physical exertion = sport. Period.

Driving a car may SEEM simple, but now imagine driving it at 180 mph for three hours with no air conditioning and a fire suit on, and you’ll see what we mean.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Oct 9, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, so it's difficult for the drivers

how does that make it interesting to watch?

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Oct 9, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an engineer

I find it incredibly interesting actually. Adjustments to the car, the way each little thing can take miles of your fuel or tires. It is insane how precise those machines are and how the drivers handle them.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 9, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right there with you

It’s neat to see your driver start out with a bad car and slowly get better and better through the race. An air pressure adjustment here. A track bar adjustment there. Tight on entry. Loose on exit. (That’s what she said!)

by BSD on Oct 9, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

It also helps if you’ve ever played a NASCAR video game on Playstation or XBox. Those things are so realistic I read once that Dale Earnhart Jr. uses them to practice.

I challenge anyone who has never played one to try it. I bet you can’t go two laps without hitting the wall or another car. These guys drive 500 miles at 150 mph for four hours just six inches off the other guy’s fenders and bumpers. It’s crazy.

by BSD on Oct 9, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stopped playing them

because I spent half my time trying to hit the other cars. It’s been awhile, but I doubt my urges have subsided…

Let that not detract from the point that I, too, am a NASCAR fan. (Which really shouldn’t surprise anyone, seeing how I’ll watch baseball, football, hockey, basketball, golf, volleyball, gymnastics…. do you see where I’m going with this?) I haven’t followed it as intensely over the past 5-6 years, but I still keep track of things, and I’ll still watch parts/most of the races – at least the ones at the more enjoyable tracks. (Do they really need to go to Loudon twice a year?) I’ll agree with the other comments – there’s a lot of strategy and minor detail tweaking that goes on that is really fascinating.

And there aren’t many things as exciting as watching a guy gain on the leader in the closing laps to try and make a late pass for the win.

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Oct 9, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this comment

New Hampshire sucks. I hate that place. They need more short tracks and less New Hampshire-types and Fontana-types. And maybe one or two more road courses.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

BRISTOL FTW

It’s like they are racing in cereal bowl.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 9, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Test for sanity...

do you watch the WNBA?

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Oct 9, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that still on?

Either way – no, I don’t watch the WNBA. I do, however, substitute that with watching MLS. Is that an even swap?

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Oct 9, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ironic thing is I love driving games

but find watching the “event” utterly boring. I’ll take women’s bowling any day.

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 9, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

Driving a car may SEEM simple, but now imagine driving it at 180 mph for three hours with no air conditioning and a fire suit on, and you’ll see what we mean.

I drove from Alaska to Florida in the first weeks of January through the end all ball buster of winter storms the whole way with an EXTREMELY PISSED OFF and highly emotional wife and a 95 pound black lab that did nothing but blow ass gas which can only be described as what the smell under one of Roseanne Barr’s tits must be and you want me to think those guys in fire suits who drive like most people do in Europe everyday stand up to the ‘they are athletes’ take? Yeah… 17 days of hell in that truck will never put me down on the couch to watch a race. Sorry…

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member

by TheMightyErik on Oct 10, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Hate Us Nascar fans

It is entertainign. Some folks find golf mind numbing and boring, some can’t follow hockey. Does that mean they are not sports? Nope. Different strokes or something

I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.

BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.

by carolinaeasy on Oct 9, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confession

Yes, it’s true. I love NASCAR. And I’ll tell you what, I would rather watch a NASCAR race on a Sunday afternoon than any NFL game.

On the surface, yes, it’s 43 cars going in a counter clockwise circle. It looks boring as hell. But if you follow it for a while there are a ton of story lines each week. There are drivers trying to make the chase. There are drivers just trying to stay in the top 35 in points so they are guaranteed a spot in the race the following week. Like every sport there are villans and heros. There are rivals and there are allies. There is strategy to be made on fuel mileage and pit stop adjustments. And of course, there are the wrecks which are pretty cool too.

Most watched sport in America, man. Get with it.

by BSD on Oct 9, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's where I get off the train

I like racing, but I don’t care about fuel mileage or storylines.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd give you a hard time about NASCAR

but I’d rather watch PGA golf on Sunday than an NFL game. Glass houses and such.

by Cairo on Oct 9, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it really the most watched?

not trying to be a jerk, but I figured it would be baseball or BBall then you guys just due to the sheer amount of games, races, whatever. You run a race on a Saturday in the fall and NASCAR ratings would be almost non-existent, I would guess. It’s like when football begins play and basically puts a .44 slug in MLB’s ratings until the playoffs.

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member

by TheMightyErik on Oct 10, 2009 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Blame Curley"

Yes.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Oct 9, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."

by psu on Oct 9, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Uh

That’s Spanier. Where’s Curley?

by BSD on Oct 9, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I made a bunch of photoshops for the "contest"

And one way or another I am going to use them all. Blame Spanier, he’s in charge of everything, Curley is a lackey.

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."

by psu on Oct 9, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

I was kind of counting on no one picking up the fact that it was spanier for a while.

"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."

by psu on Oct 9, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am sorta saddened by this.

This gets to be the Penn State game I go to this year, and I am really excited about it. I understand it is a bad opponent, but some of us can only afford/have time for a game a year. I, for one, will be there and will be happy I’m there to watch us play Eastern Illinois. I actually don’t care who we are playing. It is the fact that I get to watch a game on Saturday with my friends and fiancee. I’m glad it isn’t Alabama or Notre Dame. This way, I can go.

Bleeding blue and white and black and gold.

by raimman on Oct 9, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't let the general negativity of the post bring you down.....

I went up to the temple game…perfect football saturday even if the game wasn’t great. You can’t beat Beaver stadium and all the tailgating IMHO.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 9, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think this really applies to the people going to the game.

Going to games is fun, period. Getting excited to watch these on tv is different.

BSD

by KevinHD on Oct 9, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

true but...

the reporter was basically trying to argue that fans shouldn’t have to pay that much for EIU as opposed to OSU.

But then what…if OSU sucks this year, should they get a refund? I think thats the wrong way of looking at it.

PSU is selling entertainment here and i think you get that. You could make the argument that from 200-2004 you generally weren’t getting that and people were getting pissed. But I think things are, in general “more entertaining” now with regards to the team’s performance and stadium activities before and during the game.

Should they have tried harder to find a better team? Yeah I think they should have/could have and I won’t NOT be upset about that.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 9, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I enjoy writing these pieces. It’s what got me started into blogging in the first place. Lately it seems like I spend all my time just reporting the news and don’t get time to do this kind of stuff. I have to change that.

by BSD on Oct 9, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I was actually thinking

If there was one thing that would make BSD better/more enjoyable (at least for me) is more pieces of this nature (longer op-ed types about issues in CFB) or of a historical nature (a la the Syracuse rivalry piece).

The off season is probably more of a time for pieces like that, but I really am interested in that type of stuff. Might just be me though.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 9, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

The Syracuse piece was great.
I also like the NLotW that some folks (I know I’ve done a random few) would randomly post.
All and all, a first class blog!

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Oct 9, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apathy

I went to Coastal Carolina and decided that I would never bother with a cupcake game again. I have seen every game either in person or on TV for the last 5 years. But this year I missed Temple and I am going to miss this game and I don’t care. I would rather watch a competitive game not involving PSU than this crap. They have found a way to schedule a game so that the greatest student section in the country will be less than half full when the game starts and half full again at the end of the third quarter. I can only hope that this kind of scheduling will become unprofitable at some point.

Angry Mike

by AngryMike on Oct 9, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn't the core problem ticket prices and funding though?

I’m not disagreeing with anything here…I think its lame, but all the ticket-holding alumni I know who have complained to the AD office about this claim that these games are necessary in order to keep ticket prices at a stable level. i.e. 7 or 8 home games are needed for revenue.

So maybe its like a catch 22…where you want better OOC opponents, but you want to actually be able to afford to be in the NLC and buy season tickets?

Also, I’m a firm believer that the AD should be self sufficient and not borrow from the university’s general funds, so I can understand it from that perspective.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 9, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm going

And I’m going in with the same attitude I went to the Spring Game with: This is about tailgaiting and being with the family.

When I go back up there in November for the Ohio State game, THAT will be about football. But tomorrow is about quality time with family and friends, and maybe I’ll go watch the game for a quarter or two.

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Oct 9, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the right attitude

I read something about PSU football a few years ago that sums it up perfectly. It said something along the lines of being jealous of those with season tickets because it was like they had an extra 6,7,8 holidays in their calendar.

So even if the game is a bore, you’re still in Happy Valley. And I’m jealous.

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Oct 9, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No offense...

but if you think the Athletic Department gives a rat’s ass about your emotions and feelings or whether you’re covering the game…. THEY DON’T.

All they care about is dollar signs, and quite frankly, an 8th home game – regardles of who they play – brings in an avalanche of fresh, crisp, sweet sweet dollars.

We all know the drill, as RUTS has shared one million times. 2 home/away with real BCS school, two MAC teams at home. Boom – 7 games every year. However, as RUTS likes to point out – it’s about playing 7 home with the chance at 8 home every other year.

Unless you plan on donating a few extra million each year… this is going to happen every other season, bro.

by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 9, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean a certain amount of people did not buy tickets this year.

None of the four non-conference games were sold out this year, and last time I checked there were plenty of tickets for this weeks game still up for sale. I have no idea where the break-even point is with this scheduling versus proper scheduling, but there is atleast a drop off in ticket sales.

by markpsu on Oct 9, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I completely agree with the logic of this post

I try to keep it in perspective. A few months back, we were talking about preseason polls, recruiting, Joe is Old, barbecue, brewing beer, and everytHing we could just to pass the time until Penn State football.

Granted, those are all wonderful topics (which is part of what makes this community so great)…but I don’t think a day went by where someone didn’t say, “PLEASE, FOOTBALL SEASON, GET HERE ALREADY!!!”

Well now football season is here. And while I completely agree that the opponent and the scheduling sucks a big fat PryorArmPunt, let’s just be happy it’s Penn State football season. Let’s enjoy it while we can, because in 3 short months, we’ll be back to the waiting game.

Appreciate what you got while you got it…it’s a Penn State game, and regardless of the opponent, I’m going to treat this game like I treat every other game…LIKE IT’S THE FREAKIN’ GREATEST THING IN THE WORLD!

I bleed Blue and White.

by Horse N Buggy on Oct 9, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

+1

Bleeding blue and white and black and gold.

by raimman on Oct 9, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would +1... if I knew how

How do I actually ‘recommend’?

by cjapsu on Oct 9, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

BWAHAHAHAHAH!!

That gets an automatic +1 from me

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Oct 9, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you think this game is awful

Just wait until Indiana State rolls onto the schedule in 2011. They have one win — ONE WIN — in their past 50 games and they’re a 1-AA school. We might GT-Cumberland them.

I’ll be down in Ocean City MD for this game, not making any effort to watch it. If I was sitting at home and had ESPN Classic, I’d watch it. Wouldn’t pay more than $15 for a ticket to it, though.

And no, the athletic department doesn’t care if you don’t show up. The tickets, for the most part, are already sold. They’ll make a little less money on concessions and gameday parking.

Whatever. Dollar. Dollar. Bills y’all.

by Run Up The Score on Oct 9, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

2011?

We’ll have flying cars and robot referees by then. Maybe the Indiana game will be held ON THE MOON.

by Cairo on Oct 9, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, what a bunch of whining

I look forward to every game, every week, so even though this may not be the greatest opponent, I look forward to seeing us beat them into submission.

Plus, I’m interested to get a look at Newsome who should see a decent chunk of playing time.

Whine and moan all you want, but it won’t change anything and it’s just making everyone here less interesting and fun to be around.

by cjapsu on Oct 9, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

ARGH MOAR BETTER SCHEDULEZ AHHHHHHHH

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 9, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

So all of you in Pittsburgh know...

My buddy sort of runs a fan-clubby thing, and he has set something up with Carson City this weekend. They will be playing the game.

by psume06 on Oct 9, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

2009 -- A Season Unremembered

I would argue this is the 6th crappy game of the year, not the 4th.

Illinois is a pretty crappy team, just because they’re a Big Ten team doesn’t mean they don’t play like they belong in the MAC.

The outcome and execution of the Iowa game was crappy.

That’s six for six.

by NittanyBadger on Oct 9, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

The outcome was crappy, but we waited months for the Iowa game

A night game with Gameday and Musburger. That’s not even close to the Temple game.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree: I don’t particularly care for the B10 Conference’s teams either — Northwester, Indiana, Illinois, and Minnesota are all crappy conference games, coupled with 4 crappy non-conference games your 2009 scheudle looks like this:

9/05 – CRAP
9/12 – Crap
9/19 – Crap
9/26 – Iowa
10/3 – Crap
10/10 – R U SRS?!!>!
10/17 – crap
10/24 – Michigan
10/31 – crap
11/07 – ZOMG Ohio State
11/14 – CRAP
11/21 – meh Michigan State

"We hugged as grown men do. It was a great moment. Then, it was business as usual." -- LJ Sr.

by millzners on Oct 9, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what's the point in complaining?

In the Big East, we’d get WVU, Pitt and a bunch of crap (unless you’re an oldtimer who cares about Cuse), and we’re sure as hell couldn’t join the SEC.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the Team cares...

,,,because if they take the same WGAF attitude, we could be in for an Appalachian State moment. While I understand why you feel the way you do, football is football…Go State!

by ljdevine on Oct 9, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope the Team cares...

,,,because if they take the same WGAF attitude, we could be in for an Appalachian State moment. While I understand why you feel the way you do, football is football…Go State!

by ljdevine on Oct 9, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Tailgating w/

family and friends on a cool fall day in october at Beaver Stadium with Mt. Nittany in the backdrop. I’LL take it! GO STATE!

by penntatefan on Oct 9, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

OH YEAH

and I Haaaaaaaaaaaate leastern illinois!!

by penntatefan on Oct 9, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank Boone that the Kennett Brewfest...

is this weekend. I have no interest in watching this game on TV.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 9, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

High Noon

Best part of this post is that it was put up at exactly 12:00.

Its like you’re challenging Tim Curley to a duel. I think you take him.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Oct 9, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

The glorious thing is

Hey, we all can do whatever the F we want.

We can choose to go, choose to watch, choose to watch another game, choose to get drunk and pass out in our front yards, whatever.

No one has a gun to your head forcing you to do any of this. Maybe if we organized an actual movement against the athletic office to prevent this type of thing from happening, things would be different. The fact of the matter is they don’t give a shit and won’t unless it affects their bottom line or if we annoy them enough. They know we won’t do anything to them except at worst not come to the game. Not caring is not enough.

So lets put our collective money where our mouths are and do something about it or we can just shut up. Trust me we can affect change in this. I have learned one main thing in my life. If you make enough noise and piss someone off enough, they’ll change their tune. At worst, things stay the same; so why not do something about it.

THE TIME FOR ACTION AGAINST THE AD IS NIGH! GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS!

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Oct 9, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm salty

I am not getting the rose colored glasses people who are saying “football is footbal” or “I am just happy to tailgate”. This game is a hamburger and I want a porterhouse. I want good games. I want a game I am excited about and can’t wait for against an opponent that gets my blood boiling. I want something I talk about with friends all week. I want to read articles in every newpaper and magazine hyping the game. I want there to be a chance we might lose so I when I yell and cheer it matters. We only have 4 of these games all year (and 2 at home)?

On top of all that I can’t go even if I wanted to and I don’t get it on TV, so our scheduling choices have robbed me of the chance to see my team.

Angry Mike

by AngryMike on Oct 9, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I went to Penn State from 2001-2005.

I saw the most depressing years of Penn State football, aside from the 2002 season, that the school’s ever seen.

I appreciate every beatdown Penn State football has the opportunity to lay on another team. A beatdown of Ohio State is extremely satisfying. A beatdown of Eastern Illinois is sort of satisfying.

Sure it’s not as great, but from my experience with PSU football I’m going to savor every win because I know there’ll be another time when we’re dying to get ANY wins.

by cjapsu on Oct 9, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

so this is what it sounds like....

when doves cry?

I was a student the same exact years and I have to say..the lack of a “winning” attitude among everybody…players, students, alumni, etc..really set me back as a fan. I remember loving 2002 but then feeling like it was some sort of anomaly when ’03 and ’04 came with disappointment.

Living at home after I graduated, I watched the 2005 season not really knowing much about the great recruits PSU picked up. After the NW game, my Dad thought I was crazy for being a fan and that we’d barely have a winning season. Then he watched the OSU game with me and afterwards said “They’re exciting because they can play with ANYBODY.” Damn right.

I don’t care if its Illinois, Eastern Illinois or the Chicago Bears. Lets go state!

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 9, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The Chicago Bears

Are on the non-conference slate for the 2011 season. I can’t wait to see it. Particularly to see how Robbie Gould kicks in his return Beaver Stadium, and perhaps pick up clues in the giant mystery of a how mediocre college kicker (38 for 61 career FG) became one of the NFL’s best.

You’re listing of “Illinois, Eastern Illinois, or the Chicago Bears”, highlights an important point.

Illinois is at our level (FBS), we should play them.
Eastern Illinois is not at our level (FCS), we should NOT play them.
The Chicago Bears are not at our level (NFL), we should NOT play them.

So if playing the Chicago Bears sounds ridiculous, playing Eastern Illinois should seem as equally as ridiculous. Because it is.

by NittanyBadger on Oct 10, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

This thread devolving into a NASCAR lovefest is the worst comdemnation yet of this weak-azz game this weekend

that said, no disrespect to the NASCAR fans.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 9, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

But I’m only a semi-NASCAR fan

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I’m only a semi-NASCAR fan"

that fact will be duly noted in your semi-annual BSD performance evaluation

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 9, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sold my tickets to this stinker for $40/ticket

It was the only game I couldn’t convince friends/family to take off my hands, so I sold it on ebay and almost got face value. So that right there is what the Penn State gameday experience is worth.

Nascar has been dead to me since they introduced the chase – and I’ve always been a little scared of the fans at the track.

by Bhawoh Jue Says Whatup on Oct 9, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

What's the matter, they too country for ya?

"The sea was angry that day, my friends." G. Costanza

by NJ lion on Oct 9, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't have as many Southern dates as they used to

I don’t see how it can be too country when they’re racing at such backwoods locales as Fontana, CA, Sears Point, CA, Chicagoland, and Loudon, NH.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I sold my tickets to this stinker for $40/ticket"

wow you cleaned up! (not being sarcastic)

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 10, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Graduated tick prices

What if you raised the price of a non-conference game ticket if you could get a quality opponent in? An extra $20 or 25 per to give straight to the opposing team? That way, you would fill the stadium, get media coverage, get people excited, get respect from the pollsters (if you win), and make it worth someone’s while to COME TO PENN STATE.

The problem comes with defining quality opponent. Someone who is in a major conference and was in the Top 25 two of the last three years? A “traditional” non-conference rival such as Syracuse, Nebraska, Pitt, Alabama, Miami, Notre Dame?
I personally think that PSU-Va Tech is an interconference rivalry worth examining.

I’m not a season-ticket holder. If you are, would you be in favor of this plan?

by Dr Screenpass on Oct 10, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Used to love this site!

I went to the game today & had a BLAST!!!!! It’s all about being in “Happy Valley” & enjoying times with family & friends. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE a good match up, but this was just as good. I found this web site last year & used to LOVE it. However, it seems in the past few months all you guys do is COMPLAIN about everything! There were more complaints about the “canned music” in the stadium, than about officiating in the big ten! Lighten up guys. WE ARE, for goodness sakes!

by eggsnbeer on Oct 10, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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