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The Hate Don't Stop: INDIANA WEEK

So, it's a letdown.  Whatev'.  Whatever your gripes, I doubt few of you traveled a thousand miles to see only your second game at the Beav in the last five years, then watch a game where the best pressure put on a Buckeye was when the Lion chased around O$U's mascot with a nutcracker during a TV timeout.  Guess what? I'm dealing and so can you.  Moping is for Sundays and drinking is its cure.  I'm throwing a little pre-hate hate at people who think this "is over," whatever that means.  I see PSU football on the schedule on Saturday and I know it's one of only three times between now and September 2010 that they're playing.  Do you realize how far away September 2010 is from now?  We'll start buying flying cars and thinking spandex unitards are a socially acceptable fashion statement by then.

I don't care what it says about us as fans and I don't care about the schedule, because we absolutely, positively, MUST be happy with a 10-win season.  We're not delusional like Nebraska in 2003, we're not in denial like Notre Dame fans in 2009, and we're still not mentally challenged like Ohio State fans in everyplace.  We ARE the same fans that would have killed for a 10-win season just five years ago.  We ARE the same fans that care that our players are representing the University with class.  We ARE realizing that these kids are doing us proud and that 10 wins means two more beatdowns in the regular season.  We ARE Penn State and that means WE ARE HATE.  HATE WEEK INDIANA BEGINS NOW!

 

The Breakdown:

 

WHO

 

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Fun fact: Lou Holtz and Benjamin Harrison have the same hair.  Probably from the same barber in South Bend.
Source: Indiana Department of Getting a Tourist in the State
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Star-divide

WHO: Indiana.  Commonly regarded as "Illinois Little Sister", is a small state, with small dreams, small expectations, and small regard for football.  Maybe this is why they have three programs in Ball State, Indiana, and Notre Dame that have collectively won a Hawaii Bowl and a MAC divisional title over the past fifteen years.  No one remembers Purdue because Purdue is utterly forgettable.  We are looking specifically this week in Bloomington, the home of the Indiana University Hoosiers. Bloomington has a great reputation as a party school, which reminds me of a time back in school when I was on the phone with a friend at Oklahoma State University.  We'd had a playful debate a few weeks earlier about which school was a bigger party school and left it at that.  This time around, I absently remarked I was going to a party that night and she said, "Cool, what's the occasion?" 

I was speechless-truly dumbfounded at the entire concept of the question.  I cradled the phone silently for a few moments before flatly saying, "If you have to have an occasion to have a party, then you aren't at a party school."

I know nothing about Indiana as a party school, but if they have occasions, then they are hosts to the biggest, fakest, lamest parties ever.  Like a sausage-fest multiplied by a hundred, but with no TV nor beer.

 


If their coach was a West German music act from the late ‘70s/early ‘80s:

 

 

I'll admit, I'm a little sold.
Source: Snippet from the weekly Indiana Football Story. 


The fifth in a six-part series.  Remember how Tressel recruits from last week?  Well, this is what Indiana has to do to get a one-star recruit to come to their program.  Head coach Bill Lynch is the one in the middle with the flowing red cape.

 

WHAT

 

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Boogity Boogity.
Source: The Dark Recesses of my Mind.



WHAT:  The Streak. Cue the Lee Corso pics, because it's true: Penn State is batting 1.000 against Indiana all-time.  No matter how bad it's gotten, no matter how upsetting our upsets, no matter how much nor how little there was to play for, there is always Indiana who's good for a W.  In a goalline stand that Alabama Crimson Tide fans arguably claim is the greatest of all-time, the 2004 Nittany Lions held the Indiana Hoosiers as time expired to win their first Big Ten game of the season and begin their '05 run.  Losing now would not only be a monumental embarrassment (heck, even the '04 squad managed it) it would mean an end to the greatest conference streak in the history of life. 

 

 

WHERE

 

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Not this week.  That's a future Indiana "home" game.
Source: IU Athletic Director.

 

WHERE:  In State College, silly.

 

WHEN

 

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Who am I? Why am I here?



WHEN: After a long hiatus, the game returns to the Big Ten Network for a 12:00pm Eastern Standard Time game.  I hate the camerawork in the Big Ten Network.  It's always something that's wholly infuriating and there must be enough cameramen and directors to do a competent job shooting a football game.  TV is just too compelling a career choice for too many people.  I love artsy stuff as much as anyone, but there is a standard formula for shooting the footage of a football game.  No variations. This means:

1) Follow the ball. 

2) If you don't follow the ball, don't violently shake the camera because you were on the fullback when you should have been following the halfback two yards behind him.  The camera shake should only be done when everybody but the offense and the coaching staff is utterly faked out.  That's when your re-direction ten yards away should pop the QB stealthily holding the ball, setting up for a Statue of Liberty play to a streaking wide receiver as a Bud Collins-like "Oh my!" is yelped from the announcers booth.  That's accidental drama and it's awesome.  You just look like an idiot.

3) No "blimp-cam" instant replay shots of a goal line stand by the director.  We're trying to see if a ball came out the second before his knee hit the ground, and you've got it on Camera 93 which is conveniently following both the play on the field AND the orbit of the moon.  This has happened less often since 2006, but it's still an incomprehensible director's decision.

4) Directors need to cut to a different camera before the cameraman is resetting his shot.  Nothing like a slow motion of the the world spinning as the cameraman goes from the endzone shot to a shot of the coach standing on the sideline.  I'm not drunk, but I'm not sober either.

 

 

WHY

 

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There it is!   You knew it would be here somewhere.

Source: Lee Corso Indiana University/USFL Orlando Renegades Hall of Fame.


WHY: Why hate on the Hoosiers?  Because Hate can be easy and still be hateful.  Because Hate means understanding that Tandon Doss isn't going to roll over and let the Nittany Lions beat the Hoosiers. Because Indiana can watch game film too.  Because Penn State has too much to prove that they can play as a team to the end of a hard season.  Because losing on Senior Day means its there forever.  Because the road to respectability continues upward with defeats against small teams like Indiana.   Because we can be the only team ever to go a combined 4-0 against Indiana in a single year of mens basketball and football.  Because of Beaver Stadium.  Because of tailgates with friends. Because we care. Because we hate!

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I hate IU because of Sam Lickliter. Period.

If you tell me that the west has produced a finer musical act than Dschinghis Khan, I will call you a liar.

Correction: according to http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/psu-m-footbl-sched.html the game is a noon start.

Whenever I read these posts, I understand I’m seeing greatness. But I don’t think we cann fully comprehend it.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pure greatness

Nearly drives me to tears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQAKRw6mToA&feature=player_embedded#

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If the game really is a noon start,

a record will be broken. You thought the students weren’t showing up before. OSU blowout on national TV + Indiana home game at noon = 25% empty stands at half.

by PSUJunny05 on Nov 10, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope we get another awesome rant from jesse.

Those are always fun.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm partial to the NLC guy

and his lame attempts to connect to the current student body with phrases like “fo sho” and “slappin the booty”

by PSUJunny05 on Nov 10, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For the “slappin the booty” reference, I refer you to the funniest song ever made.

http://popup.lala.com/popup/576742240202208273

by PSUJunny05 on Nov 10, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

any time those phrase are typed out…they always seem to lose their pizazz. his next letter will include WTF and lolz.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Laugh all you want

I was way ahead of the curve on that.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't laughing.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

That post got like 5 recs, 2 flags, had 30 comments, the comments closed and the whole thread removed in like 45 minutes.

It got a reaction. I shouldn’t post threads when I’m drunk. Something bad always happens, see last weeks Ohio State post.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2 flags?

Pfft.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

when was this posted, like immediately after the game?

i was at the phryst by 730…so yeah

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty soon thereafter

It was wild, I actually got emails from people for a couple of days afterward.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wait...what post was this?

Why does real life have to be interfering with my BSD life so much lately? I missed the “I tried it and it sucked” post, and jesse’s rant. This might be the BSD equivalent of missing being at the 2005 OSU game

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wrote a "bit of a rant"

about the students not going to the games that got posted about 10 minutes after the Akron game ended. The highlite was something to the effect of I hoped the students got STD’s from the people they hooked up with instead of going to the game.

Except I said it in a mean way.

It was pretty controversial. Drew some recs, drew some flags, Mike closed the comments after about 45 minutes or so because it got totally out of hand. Then I took the post down, it was only up for maybe an hour.

In my defense, I don’t think was the only one that had a few cocktails that day.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, if there was a BSD premium account I could sign up for

that showed all deleted posts, I’d probably sign up for it :-p

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In my defense

I need to take the PRAXIS test this Saturday so I can get my teaching certificate… so I’ll be late but I’m going to ride my bike from Chambers to Beaver Stadium as fast as I can so I can get in… though I’ll be in the alumni section…

by AdamShell on Nov 10, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

amen to you...

not to turn this place to any kind of religious place, but good luck on your test, I hope you had a better weekend in SC than I did last weekend…LETS TO STATE!!!I HATE INDIANA!!

by bconway6 on Nov 11, 2009 4:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

btw

I noticed somewhere in a very old thread that you mentioned interning for CSF on at Penn State. I belonged to CSF when I was a student! There weren’t THAT many of us, so that’s kinda cool.

by PSUWifey on Nov 11, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever the attendance is like for the game

can we at least agree to not make another post devoted to how poor the student section is filled? I think we’re all aware how bad it is for noon games, and there’s nothing anyone can do at the moment to change that.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 1:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

/agreed from this side

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

God I ....

 wish this was not true, but really after the o$u game, I cannot defend the students ANY MORE….I Have been on their side all season and that they were not available for sale..etc. NO MORE!!!! Students be damned..I am very disappointed in their decisions in attending the games, or not attending games.“AAARRRRRGHGH!!!!”

by bconway6 on Nov 11, 2009 4:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Urgency in getting into the football game on November 7 2009. terrible…Ive seen some slow filing in crowds, but that was awful, really the middle of the second quartter?!?!?

by bconway6 on Nov 11, 2009 4:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're allowed to blame more than one thing.

And I think that’s the case here. Bad system, bad students, too many tickets allotted.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 11, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We’ll start buying flying cars and thinking spandex unitards are a socially acceptable fashion statement by then.

I plan on draping myself in velvet.

by PSUJunny05 on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Before we go any further, I’d just like to point out how disturbing it is that you equate eating a block of cheese with some sort of bachelor paradise.

by Bob Sacamano on Nov 11, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Your first two paragraphs

Are the best thing ever. Perspective. Unfortunately a lot of people are lacking it right now. But everything you say is so true.

by PSUMark2008 on Nov 10, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Game's at noon.

Yet another time buzzkill from me.

by cjapsu on Nov 10, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it's time to tell

the students that the game starts 1 hour before it actually does.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

aaaaand that music video is the greatest thing i've ever seen.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 10, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i hate indiana.

it’s flat. the state is completely unnecessary. i was completely underwhelmed by iu when i was there for a water polo tournment (i believe the thought was, “is this it?” i was young and didn’t understand that not all schools were like PSU).

and for crying out loud…what the heck is an hoosier? or illini for that matter? why can’t those midwestern states have mascots that people recognize??

and i hate the fact that i am slightly concerned about this game b/c i’ve seen the season they’ve had and after last weekend…well Zug it. it’s freakign Indiana…i should not be worried.

i hate indiana.

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

in the words of jim gaffigan

hi, we’re from indiana and…we’re gonna move

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hot Pocket!

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hot Pocket Hot Pocket

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tastes just like a hot pocket?

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

caliente pocket

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Death Pocket!

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

steak-umm pocket

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hot Pocket!

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 11, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fluuuuush pocket…

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 11, 2009 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite:

diarrhea pocket

It's funny because it's true.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't even started the meat of this thing yet

and I already had to come down here and rec it.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Nov 10, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

man was that awesome.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Nov 10, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what she said(?)

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No she didn't

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 11, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's not forget

Indiana (the state) is where South Bend is located. That right there is reason enough to hate the whole state. Besides, we have our own Indiana University right here in PA.

Also Bobby Knight. Hate.

by PSUWifey on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's true, ND is located in Indiana

which by the transitive property of HATE means Indiana loves ND, and wants them to succeed even though they suck. My hate has increased.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

I love the Notre Dame fans that have absolutely no connection whatsoever to the school/team. Allow me to present a conversation I had with a Notre Dame fan in early 2007:

Me: How can you like Notre Dame? Did you go there?
ND Fan: No I didn’t go there, but they’re the best!
Me: What state is Notre Dame in?
ND Fan: Ummm long pause followed with a blank expression and then complete silence
Me: You’re an idiot

by Bob Sacamano on Nov 11, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BUT THEY ARE ON NBC

THEY ARE IMPORTANT!!

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Catholics

the common thread.

Lucky gun, fake fifth, 8XY bitch
Daryll Clark, The Penn State Football Story Is...

by letsgopsu on Nov 11, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember when I first found out ND was in Indiana

I was sorta let down. For such a “big important school” it sure came from quite an underwhelming state. At least it’s not from one of the Dakotas.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a friend who graduated from Seton Hall but has a big tattoo of ND and the lucky charms guy on his arm. He got it because he’s Irish and he wished he went to ND. I told him that the ND cathedral is in France and maybe they should be called “the Fighting Frenchmen.” He didn’t think it was very funny. I did. Still do.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 12, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even ND isn't stupid enough to think

that anyone would believe the French would ever fight

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

gradulations on your graduation

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 12, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pitt is in PA....

is your “transitive property of HATE” just a way of letting us know you love Pitt?

How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football ?

by psupride on Nov 12, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who doesn't love Pitt?

They’re so cute with their “we’re so better than you, even we have zero evidence to back it up” attitudes, and their inability to fill up their own stadium for games

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 12, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i have to like ND this wkend.

#1. my best friend, who loves ND (i do not hold this against her) always goes to PSU games with me and roots for PSU. therefore, since i am going to the Pitt/ND game, i have to root for ND in support of my best friend.

#2. they are playing Pitt and i would love nothing more than for Pitt to lose to a non ranked opponent to shut these guys up.

really it comes down to the lesser of two evils in my world.

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 10, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm torn on this game

Pitt is so cute with their sudden grand pride in their normally half-assed excuse for a football team b/c they’re ranked ahead of us, but ND is ND, and so long as fat Charlie or Emu’s faces come up in football news, I cannot cut ND any breaks whatsoever (not that I would cut them any breaks anyway since my hate is so strong for them).

It’s a root for the meteor game, but I’m guessing like all the other meteor games this season that never actually had a meteor smash into the field, it’s not going to happen, so I don’t know who to hate less (there is no “rooting” in this scenario). Pitt is a dead rivalry, and ND won’t STFU.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

THIS

There is no rooting for Notre Dame! I have friends that went there, does that mean I would ever root for them? No! I have friends that went to Pitt, does that mean I would ever root for them? No! I’m not rooting for a meteor, I’m rooting for an earthquake wherein the ground opens up and swallows both teams whole. Mostly fat Charlie.

by PSUWifey on Nov 11, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll agree with both you and Dawson on the natural disaster

but only insofar as it affects the stadium. For those of us that live mere miles away from the stadium, I wish peace and tranquility and a beautiful day to enjoy a Primanti’s sandwich.

by PSUJunny05 on Nov 11, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree - It's a comet game

the best thing that could happen is a very small comet lands smack on the 50 yd line and vaporizes both sides

Chewbacca is an explicative

by brubby on Nov 11, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This would be better than an earthquake

Charlie would probably clog up the chasm, which would prevent anyone else from actualy falling team which would prompt Lou Holtz to proclaim “See, I TOLD you he’s an underrated coach.”

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 11, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dr. lou is bidding his time

so that when he dies, they’ll go all futurama on his head and he can coach at ND forever

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i've found myself rooting for rouge nuclear warheads a lot more this season

just thought i’d mention it…i’m not disturbed…

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

*rogue

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rouge nuclear warheads sound lovely

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Although it makes my blood go cold,

I’ve been playing “Rakes of Mallow” and “The Victory March” all week just to p!ss people off.

by Spats on Nov 11, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was literally convulsing with laughter while reading the Big Ten camera guy tips

trying to stifle my laughter so I wouldn’t make my roommate think I was high or something.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 10, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and the funniest part of all is how true it is

man the big ten cameramen suck. They’ve been improving, but still terrible

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

He didn’t mention coming back from commercial in the middle of a play though, that’s another thing to add.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the big ten sideline reporters are hot though...

it’s like the fox news of sports programming

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

fo shizzle?

She used to work for Fox, the FSN flavor. I’d be careful with GIS’s for Charissa Thompson if at work, tho. Apparently another type of pulp star shares her name.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I made a note to Mike last week

about how hot that Charissa chick is. He hadn’t noticed. I think he’s losing it or something!

by PSUWifey on Nov 11, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I laughed out loud

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love these husband/wife comments

A whole new dimension to the BSD experience

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 12, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

For perspicacity in the face of criticism and another for thread/post pertinence.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually prefer the brunette version of CT

and she used to do this bite her lip thing that was really hot but I think BTN made her cut it out because it was distracting

by balpsu22 on Nov 11, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

See?

It’s totally possible to be ‘descenting’ and provocative at the same time!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This one's from Indiana, so feel free to hate freely

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess we lost out on this one last year

It says here. Mike & PSUWifey may not have, tho, if they’re both into nascar.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Earrings?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A belly button and a watch

Anyone who gets that reference gains my endless respect (as being my equal in knowing some of the most random stuff known to man)

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Nov 11, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Finally, a Penn Stater

And knows her food as well!
So to

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I sat next to her in a class, good times had by all.
/kinda feels like a perv now

by Bob Sacamano on Nov 11, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

did you ever drop your pencil?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if this forum wasn't so family friendly

i’m sure this statement could twisted into something wholly inappropriate and hilarious

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh man, you are right

the coming back from commercial in the middle of a play (or sometimes even 2 plays later) is infuriating.

I recall one game they came back as we were celebrating. That was doubly infuriating.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

YAAAAAYYYYYY

10 wins against a MAC schedule. WE ARE…..directional Michigan.

Sorry, I love PSU as much, if not more, as the next guy. But zero quality wins and 2 shit-the-beds against “peers” don’t exactly inspire me.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 1:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Then why are you commenting, since you obviously have given up on the season?

Clearly you don’t love PSU as much, if not more than the next guy if you’re just going to “not be inspired” to root for the team just because they lost to two decent opponents. You sound like a fair-weather fan to me, and no true Penn Stater is a fair weather fan.

Ten years ago, we began the worst stretch of PSU football in the Paterno era, yet people still showed up, still yelled, still cheered, still carried on our traditions, even when the Dark Years were at their darkest. Now we’ve done a 180 and are finally out of the darkness, and now you’re going to act like a smug USC, tOSU, or SEC fan who considers a two loss season a “failure”. So congrats, I hope you’re proud.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right on

a 6-2 league record isn’t anything to be ashamed of, especially coming into the season with so many holes to fill. They look sloppy at times, yeah. But they’re still my football team, dammit, and I’m NEVER going to compare us to a directional Michigan.

by jimbo2psu on Nov 11, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

where did I ever say I gave up on the team

where did I say I am not going to root for the team?

Dude, you have absolutely NO idea of my level of commitment to this team in terms of time, money and emotion.

Can it with your ten year stretch/dark years BS. I’ve been watching this team for over 20 years and going to games for 15. That would include this most recent decade.

So drop the holier than though attitude.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, forgive me!

I didn’t realize criticizing 10 wins against, yes a weak OOC schedule (welcome to the world of the obvious!), and our Big Ten schedule counted as being supportive of the team! I mean clearly you’re totally committed to the team when you have to say things like this:

Sorry, I love PSU as much, if not more, as the next guy. But zero quality wins and 2 shit-the-beds against "peers" don’t exactly inspire me.
And forgive my “holier than thou” attitude. I didn’t realize that supporting a team with 8 wins and two tough losses to quality opponents made me a pompous doucheabag!

And why should I can it with the “dark years BS”? If you’re not going to appreciate a far more than winning schedule after 5-6 years of mediocrity and suck, then you obviously weren’t paying attention during those 15 years of going to games. If you were a true fan you take the good with the bad, and the disappointments, because it’s sure as hell a complete 180 from the tailspin of the early 2000’s.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, you're really putting words in my mouth

and implying a LOT of things. However, with some of the things your write “…if you were a true fan” , yeah, you do sound like a pompous Dbag.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're the one voicing negativity about a potential 10 win season.

And PSU fans are a different breed of fan. We support our team even when we’re frustrated with them. How do you explain us still being able to fill up our stadium during the Dark Years? We all know the schedule is a joke and we lost to two good opponents in frustrating losses, but saying things like, “WE ARE….directional Michigan” makes you sound like a whiny, fair-weather fan who won’t tolerate a 10-win season like it’s some sort of colossal failure when it’s not (disappointment yes, although most of us expected it at the beginning of the year since we’re in a rebuilding year after losing a lot of talented players).

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

First, we don't have ten wins yet

Second, the when you get shut out in the second halves of two very big home games, those losse are pretty damn big.

PSU fans aren’t much different than Bama/Texas/Michigan/(insert major power here) fans. They all fill up their stadiums, even in down years. I’d like to think we are different, but in reality, we really aren’t.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unlike...

Bama fans, PSU fans can read. Unlike Texas fans, PSU fans understand there is a world outside of the Texas and unlike scUM fans, PSU fans didn’t endure a loss to Appy. State

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I do enjoy how not only does Michigan share our worst loss, to Toledo

(though Toledo was a 10 win team the year we lost to them, and only a 3 win team the year Michigan lost to them), but they also lost to Appy State.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Once upon a time I wrote a post

That objectively listed our quality out of confrence opponents from 2000 going forward. I listed Toledo, and actually caught a fair amount of flack for it. They’re Toledo, they don’t count, ARGH!. That kind of shit.

They had Chester Taylor. I believe they’re one loss was to Miami University, whom, I believe, was quarterbacked by Roethlisberger. So yeah, they were good.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chester Taylor

Should be starting somewhere. So Glad to have him alongside purple jesus.

But yeah, People seem to forget that there was the occasional good non BCS team before Boise St and Utah arrived on the scene.

Marshall w/Moss/Pennington
Tulane w/Shaun King
Miami (OH) w/Big Ben
Toledo w/Chester Taylor

Those were all very very good teams

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 11, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I LOVE how you called it "the" Texas

Until you live in Texas, you have absolutely no idea how true that statement above is.

The ultimate goal of all high school students in Texas, even the crazy genius ones, even the Indian and Chinese valedictorians, is to get into UT Austin. Rice doesn’t even really exist, and Harvard?! What’s that?

I have to admit, aside from the whole higher education thing, the mentality is rather attractive. It’s a similar feeling to why I chose Penn State over Ivy League schools. Penn State Pride.

by PSUWifey on Nov 11, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

For citation of Indian and Chinese valedictorian aspirations.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have cousins that...

went to UT and Rice and I seriously considered going to both. They are different in the Texas.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There are asians and indians in Texas?

and by Indians, I don’t mean the ones who used to own the place. Actually I shouldn’t really poke fun as my HS valedictorian was a good friend of mine and as white as I am, but he went to Lafayette for college. The salutatorian of my class went to Penn, he was also extremely white.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not so much Texas as Houston

Houston is not really like the rest of Texas, it is exceptionally diverse. My neighborhood is chockablock full of Indians (not Native Americans) and Chinese. It’s both the energy capital of the US and has a huge medical center. My 5 yr olds Kindergarten class has 16 kids, with about 10 different ethnicities/nationalities. Nothing like Penn State in that regard. I love it.

by PSUWifey on Nov 12, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Visited Houston a few years ago on business.

Went to a “good” Tex-Mex place for lunch. It was run by Indians. Good food however. You should try tacos with curry powder (only kidding).

Just remembered one of the all time Penn State wide outs….Jack Curry!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Korean Tacos

The best export out of California since ever.

by Cairo on Nov 13, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That I have never seen

One thing we have zero shortage of is Tex-mex places, and all I have been to are run by actual Mexicans. All the Indians I have met are either doctors or engineers.

Of course, we don’t actually have any Dunkin Donuts or 7-11s for them to run.

by PSUWifey on Nov 14, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Door is to your left.

You can show yourself out. The rest of us “next guys” will be cheering for Old State come Saturday at noon. Don’t strain yourself getting out of bed in time for the game chap.

by mvrck on Nov 11, 2009 3:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you're such a better fan

want to compare dick size too?

Clueless.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude!

Shut up, this is Cairo’s excellent HATE WEEK post, having been reading the others??? If you are uninspired there is no need to comment here, there are plenty of other “man, we suck” threads you can do your whining on.

by PSUWifey on Nov 11, 2009 7:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they should rename the forum that at pennlive

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

clearly someone has forgotten the year when we lost to akron

how quickly people become docile with so called “guaranteed win” games. they forget the years where there was no such thing as a cupcake.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

its all the same to me

i try and forget

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's just always remember

that at least it WASN’T App. State. Wait a second. Wrong HATE week. Sorry.

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 11, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you BSD nation

For having some perspective

by speedomike on Nov 11, 2009 7:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I got lots of hate

for Indy. Lee Corso is all the hate I need. Not b/c they have teh Old Oaken Bucket and an ongoing state rivalry game or that they have artificial turf and we have real grass turf. Not b/c their about hoop and not football and we’re all about football and not hoop or their too folksy and we’re too country. Not even their loose standards for retiring football numbers(like their a football school) or having Joshua Bell as alumni. No, Lee Corso’s all the Hate I need. Did you know he sleeps with buckets?

by penntatefan on Nov 11, 2009 7:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Speaking Of Buckets...

That’s just a bucket of chestnuts! He’s got a bucket of chesnuts! Who keeps a bucket of chestnuts?

by Bob Sacamano on Nov 11, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whenever I'm feeling down...

over a penn state loss or whatevzzzz.. It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia always makes me feel much better!

"Victory without honor is an unseasoned dish. It might fill you up, but it won't taste good" - Joe Paterno

by MilroyBoozer on Nov 11, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i wish i had a 'bad' room like charlie

…where i could go after a loss and smash bottles.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 11, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!

I would buy products from Charlie just from him video making skills alone.. and project badass was truly bad-ass!

"Victory without honor is an unseasoned dish. It might fill you up, but it won't taste good" - Joe Paterno

by MilroyBoozer on Nov 11, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i seriously watched the promo for that ep like 10 times

just for this scene.

also…dick towel!

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

I guess I didn’t see that episode

by penntatefan on Nov 11, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OHHH

i was wondering where i heard that before.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hate corso all you want

as long as you love his track suit

by WorldBFat on Nov 11, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets Rock Indiana

Sr. Week…Our Sr players have made the sacrifices for 4 and 5 years. The price has been paid now it is time to put it on the line and start a new winning streak.
I love the 4-0 vs Indiana in Basketball and football in one year.
Don’t forget these guys cost us a National Championship when we let our foot off their necks in ’94.
Leave nothing on the table. Lets Go State!

Peter

by psuboy on Nov 11, 2009 8:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe I forgot

to mention ND, Bobby Knight, the lack of amish recruits on their football team(zug really hates these guys) or my hoosier boob roommate from when I was stationed in S.C. The hates on now! NEVER FORGET! Let’s Go!

by penntatefan on Nov 11, 2009 8:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I live in Indiana

And I hate IU. And ND. I do like the Amish football league (seriously, they have pads and everything). But I hate IU. 4-0 in one calendar year against them in hoops and football? Outstanding. I will let no one around here forget that after we win Saturday.

by IndianaLion on Nov 11, 2009 8:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Got any AFL players photos?

  I know how they shun pictures.

by penntatefan on Nov 11, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A(mish)FL
they have pads and everything

They just have to be all black, right? Is that what makes it acceptable?

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 11, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they can

they just can’t be shiny.

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 11, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure they are...

anti-zipper b/c it makes life to easy/modern. Shiny is as good a reason as any I guess.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So help me here

if both teams weqar black…how to you tell the home team from the visitors?

Probably doesn’t show well on my Black and White TV!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 11, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I used to play in an

Amish softball league. Of course that was in the 717.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOO WOO

rep that 717!

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 11, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The new 717 or the old?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Both? The new 717 is still old.

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 11, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

717 FOR LIFE

THEY CAN CHANGE THE NUMBERS BUT THE SPIRIT LIVES ON.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I long..

for the halicon days of my youth where a local call did not require 10 digit dialing.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bad 717!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

717 4-Life

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 11, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was gona play in an amish flag football league but I backed out.

and speaking of sports the Amish play, who has seen donkey baseball?

717 !!!

by scotty2hotty89 on Nov 11, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I played in an Amish league once

We played after work, but we had to end the games at halftime because they wouldn’t turn on the lights.

HEY-OH!

by BSD on Nov 11, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OH SNAP

Too bad those Amish don’t have computer access to take that insult in person…lol

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually....

some who own businesses have computers. They just don’t have them in their homes.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2009 6:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amish recreation center

Here in Indiana Amish country, a guy opened up what basically is an Amish recreation center to rent out to the Amish kids. Lighted fields and everything. Volleyball, softball, baseball, and I think the football is there, too. Floyd’s uniform is black – I don’t know what the other teams are wearing, since I have never actually made it to a game. I’ll work on that, although the season may be over now.

by IndianaLion on Nov 12, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you have to dress like this?

btw, for those of you who don’t know, that’s from Late Night with Conan O’Brien, and if you haven’t seen the video, you haven’t lived. I’ve watched it a hundred times and it doesn’t get old.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

SHUT UP!!!

that was seriously the funniest thing i’ve seen in awhile

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 12, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm expecting a huge game from zug.

Have you ever “witnessed” an amish driveby(clip-clop, clip-clop, BANG!). That’s just how they roll here in PA. You think their not a threat but then next thing you know you’ve been hit hard! Just like the movie, you can’t underestimate their capabilities. Not to mention what they’ll do to puppies if you *uck with them.

by penntatefan on Nov 11, 2009 8:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

No Joke

I used to work at the Indiana Department of Tourism.

by tuscaloosalion on Nov 11, 2009 9:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I got an idea for T-shirt design

That says “Too country” with an AFL player on it.

by penntatefan on Nov 11, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't that make a better

spandex unitard design?

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 11, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No...

…but if they stopped to fill up the tank, that was a whole different story. For that: confetti.

by tuscaloosalion on Nov 11, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So which kind of generic commercial did Indiana have at the time?

1) Indiana: We have hiking through forests and live music in big cities. (Kentucky, Arkansas)

2) Indiana: We have cowboys, farms, and indians. (Wyoming, Oklahoma)

3) Indiana: You know us for one historical thing, so we’ll keep showing it and showing it. (Virginia, Texas)

4) Indiana: You know us for one natural feature, so we’ll keep showing it and showing it. (Arizona, South Dakota)

by Cairo on Nov 11, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

5) Indiana: Seriously, it’s so flat it will creep you out a little bit.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Too obvious

6) Indiana: INDY 500 INDY 500 DID WE MENTION INDY 500 OH WELL INDY 500 WE HAVE INDY 500.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also,

Hoosier Hysteria. Until you live it you can’t believe how big HS B-Ball was/is in Indiana.

Of course in the summer time all you do is watch the corn and soybeans grow!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 11, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I could still make a sincere pitch for the merits of Indiana (I spent a good chunk of my life there; I love the place, though I’ll hate IU this week) …. if I could just eliminate everything north of Indianapolis. Total wasteland. I couldn’t say that in my job, of course.

I’ll say, though, that Fort Wayne has produced some of the best drinkers I’ve ever met in my life.

(IndianaLion, if you’re from, like, Kokomo, I’m sorry; I’m sure you’ve found wonderful elements to it that forever escaped me.)

by tuscaloosalion on Nov 11, 2009 9:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fort Wayne has produced some of the best drinkers I’ve ever met in my life

Other then the production, distribution and consumption of Methanphetimene, what else is there to do but drink?

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Purdue games

I mean, if you can actually find West Lafayette. Like many, I’m convinced there is no such place as Purdue. All a myth. But if you can find it, I’m sure it’s fun.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Drew Brees is actually secretly a robot made by the USAF

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So you wish we play nothing?

I don’t think we need a bye week yet. JMO.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Andre Agassi meet Fort Wayne...

Fort Wayne, this is Andre Agassi.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Watch your mouth....

I have a degree (not a very good one) from Ball State. Lived in Muncie for 10 years. No it didn’t take me 10 years to get a Masters degree.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 11, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, a lot of people go to school for 10 years

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 11, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, they're acllled doctors

this is a common joke in my family

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking of going to Ball State for grad school

then I realized I would have to live in a place called “Muncie”….

\different strokes

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Nov 11, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and you'd be going to BALLSt

hehehehe

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 11, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DAMN YOU WHITLOCK!!!

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good old Muncie, some notoriety

The Delaware Indians (yeah the same ones from back here in the East) had been moved by the white guys to Ohio and Indiana. Some settled in Munsee Town…later Muncie.

In the Tom Slick cartoons, Tom (a race car driver) would race from Muncie to Muncie.

Also, Muncie got a little notoriety in “Close Encounters of the Third Kind”. The movie started on Cornbread Road in Muncie.

Muncie is the birthplace of Tom Davis who created Garfield (a long lost cousin of the Nittany Lion).

David Letterman gradulated went to from Ball State (supposedly couldn’t get into IU). He set up a scholarship in communications for “C” students.

And..when I lived out there, in the late 70’s, the Ku Klux Klan had a sign-up booth at the Delaware County fair. It created a near riot every year but the ACLU or whatever stood up for them.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't...

….even scrolled through the comments or read the post yet, but I just wanted to say;l it’s good to wake up to some hate on the West Coast guys. Thanks.

COME TO PENN – HAAATE!!!!!

by hbeach08 on Nov 11, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You know

if everyone is as pleasant as you, country hospitality is gonna get an awful name.

What a pleasant thing to say.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 11, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

translate.

is that some sort of threat?

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 11, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

brilliant

awesome as always cairo

by mbailey71 on Nov 11, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anybody..

who has ever driven through Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio can attest to how awful those three flat, lifeless states are (nothing but corn for miles). My old friend Mary J didn’t even help.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 10:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is there another way to drive through the Midwest and Great Plains?

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 11, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

just stay away from Jimmy.

I don’t want him toking when he’s fifty.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 11, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't do the majority of the driving..., but

I was young and stupid once and I don’t condone it.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well that's good then

Then again, it’s not like you were endangering anything by driving high, since there’s nothing to hit out there except flat fields and corn.

(totally joking, kids, don’t do drugs and drive)

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He had one of those

Driver’s Ed cars with the dual steering wheels. If Esteban nodded off, MJ was right there to take over. Man I’m hungry.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was tough not nodding off...

considering the trip started in Kansas.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So you were tripping in Kansas?

What the hell was wrong with you? First you were blasting Slow Ride on the radio why you smoked a doobie in Indiana, and now we find out you were tripping balls before you even started the trip. Shame on you sir!

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The ride started in Kansas...

I wasn’t “tripping”. Reality is f-d up enough without inducing hallucinations.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2009 6:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least there is plenty

of constant road construction and orange barrels to hold your attention.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Ohio Turnpike (80/90)

is probably one of the nicest, best maintained roads I’ve ever driven on. Once you cross into Indiana, though, the roads are worse than they are in PA, and seemingly always under construction.

They are too flat and straight, though, and mindnumbingly boring.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

seconded on the good maintenance

20 minutes west of cleveland the mind numbing boredom starts though
too many cops also

by WorldBFat on Nov 11, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In laws live just off the

last turnpike exit in Ohio before you get into IN. Great road. Awful state

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, definitely too many cops

but they’re easy enough to see, since they always hide in the median, and you can see like 5 miles in front of you

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a friend here at PSU who is from Illinois

We always joked with him about the flatness of his homeland, etc etc

The first time I ever rode in a car with him was to go to the airport to pick up his girlfriend who was visiting.

The road to the airport has a few hills and curves. I thought I was going to die, apparently he had no idea you had to brake when going downhill or around sharp turns. I honestly was surprised we made it there in one piece. He honestly had no idea how to drive with hills. He may also be borderline insane, but story still holds.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 11, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At first read

I was thinking Mary J Blige. One of our vball friends here in the DC came from a less-knowledgable hip-hop upbringing, was a little more upper crusty than most in the 717, and cracked us all up one day singing ‘come on everybody get on up, cause you know we gots to get it crunk.’ We were all laughing hysterically and somebody asked her ‘Christie, do you even know who sings that song?’ She said ‘Sure. Mary J BILGE.’

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I find this to be a great site with great content,

but the message board appears to be filled with a bunch of people who just want to be surrounded by those with similar opinions.

Have a descenting opinion? Maybe think a little diferently about the team? You should leave. You’ve given up on the program. You should find a new team. Blah blah blah.

Sure sounds like many of you are afraid of a different perspective. Instead of offering a relevant counter point, you get sand in your collective vags. You know who you are. Continue to S each others Ds.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Choo choo

The ban hammer train is pulling into the station! Choo choo!

a) I don’t remember you from PennLive.
b) Funny that you joined BSD on Nov. 8 2008. What a coincidence.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember him....

Brd, did you post on firejaypa or pigskin after pennlive?

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it is surprising

that people aren’t being particularly civil to you, given how civil you are to everyone else…

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 11, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay.

1. There is an “orthodoxy of opinion” on the board to be certain. It’s based upon the fact the many of the same topics gat discussed over and over again. Long time posters eventually have their opinions molded to fit within one or two standard deviations of a mean opinion. I don’t think that’s bad, or even group think. I think in a lot of ways it consensus building by debate and discussion. Hell, the “orthodoxy of opinion” even changes from time to time. It just takes a while, and it’s not going to come from you telling everybody how smart you are.

2. This was supposed to be a funny, light, post. Not every single dicussion has to involve how disappointed we are/are not in the season. If it did, I doubt that it would be very entertaining for very long.

3. Many an asshole have come and gone with the “you won’t listen to a dissenting opinion”. That’s bullshit. I’ve post thousands of dissenting opinions over the years. Sometimes, I’m even able to change peoples minds. With respect to a join date, it seems to me that people tend to join when they are pissed off because they want to write a post about hoe “they are mad as hell and they aren’t going to take it anymore”. But trust me, we’ve read it before. These posts are usually filled with flawed logic and mistakes, and accordingly are easy pickens to get ripped up.

Relax and enjoy the ride. It’s college football. Try not to take it so seriously all the time.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And don't even get him started on Damon's!

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 11, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said about changing opinions

Once upon a time it was acceptable to hit Damon’s for some ribs and trivia. Now is an evil bastion of Ohio State imperialism. See, minds changed, one at a time, through cogent argument.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Whew, I do recall a time

when I really enjoyed Damon’s. Glad to know I wasn’t a commie.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you go to Damon's now

You are worse than a commie. You have provided aide and comfort to Ohio State.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually enjoyed Damons the few times I went there between 98 and 2003

but the times I’ve gone since, they just don’t seem as good. Maybe the quality really has gone down hill

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya know what?

I think Mike and I got engaged at Damon’s. In S.C. No kidding. It was not especially memorable, but I’m pretty sure that’s where he presented me with the ring that is currently on my left hand. We loved that place. That was before we had any money or taste.

by PSUWifey on Nov 11, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That was before we had money or taste

But now both manifest themselves in our grotto.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

didn’t you read the magazine?! Mike clears up the grotto deal in there.

by PSUWifey on Nov 11, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea how I missed that

But I left my copy at my mom’s in the 717. Any chance I could get a re-citation here?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Page 110, at the very end of the "The Only 'Linebacker U'" story:
In addition to editing this publication, Mike [last name redacted, not sure what the last name rules are on here, even though it’s printed in a million copies of the magazine, but I digress] blogs about Penn State football daily at Black Shoe Diaries (www.blackshoediaries.com). Mike is a Penn State graduate that lives in Houston, TX with his wife Sarah and two sons. He has been known to wear jorts. But contrary to popular belief, he does not own a grotto in the back yard.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm calling bullsh8t

I’m never giving up that meme. Ever.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Does it really say ‘graduate THAT lives in Houston….’? It would make sense for Rambler, but all along I’ve been operating under the assumption Mike is human.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 12, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aside from taking out Mike's last name

everything else is exactly as it’s written in the mag.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 12, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said, I enjoy the content on here and read it daily

I don’t post frequently. Admittedly I am probably too emotionally invested in the team, but nothing is frustrating than seeing the same deficiencies year after year and not have them addressed.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A man your age comes to a place like this

either he’s running away from something or he has no where else to go.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 11, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

or possibly got here via one of Rambler's "YOU FOUND US" disturbing search terms

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 11, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There! You figured it out!

Here’s what you have — a great football program with good team. They’ll challenge for a conference title every few years and schedule as many home games as possible. You have a coaching staff with obvious limitations, but they seem to recruit pretty well and send a decent amount of players to the NFL. And you have a university who promotes the living crap out of your football program, which is annoying yet incredibly effective. 85% of the time, being a Penn State fan will leave you happy on Saturday night.

There’s disappointment because even with an obviously shaky team, things lined up for Penn State when Iowa, OSU, Sparty, and Illinois all crapped the bed. So when you lose the only two big games of the year at home in a stunningly similar fashion, there’s anger and disappointment. Anger will subside, disappoint will remain until next September unless we can luck our way into a good bowl game and win it.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 11, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And is a bright, young coaching staff going to turn us into a national superpower?

Yes, or the goddamn plane will crash into the mountain. One of the two.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 11, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1 on the Marshall reference

Too soon?

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Little do they know PSU

actually stole it from USC.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I always remember the story

as the USC cheerleaders being happy (or at least ambivalent) to use using/adapting their cheer. Some revisionist history perhaps, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it! :)

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Nov 11, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought the reason USC cheerleaders were happy was

Zug.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i prefer the 'civil rights' related story

it just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy…the story, not racism

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh damn

i forgot about ‘millen around!’

worst. segment. evar.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

After listening to Millen, whenever I think of the term “milling around” I think of very, very stupid cows walking aimlessly in a slaughter house before being shot with one of those hydraulic guns.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure why I said hydraulic

I meant a captive bolt pistol.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

+1 for vivid imagery

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 11, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Also, -1 for not actually recing

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh god, I just got flashbacks

of the class I had to take at the Penn State Meat Lab, aka slaughter house. But then again, we did get to try some really, really fresh ham and burgers, so it wasn’t all bad. I’m pretty sure they use the bolt “pistol” on the beef cows (although “pistol” isn’t really accurate as it was essentially a stick with a gun barrel in it that fires on contact with the cow skull).

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Relax

people are going to disagree with you. Deal with it.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Nov 11, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dissention to my dissention?!

Sniffle sniffle

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the issue is

you just expressed your disappointment (in a very sarcastic manner), and I don’t recall you offering any ways to correct the problem (though perhaps I just haven’t read htem yet). Mostly you just came across as whiney and sarcastic.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're being polite

I think saying stuff such as “sand in your vags” and “keep S’ing each other Ds” is a little bit beyond “expressing disappointment in a sarcastic manner”.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well, I was mostly referring to his original posts

that he was surprised got negative feedback. The stuff you quote was in his tirade after not being taken seriously.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the internet

You are a fish swimming in a school of millions of other fish. If you try to break off and go your own way you are going to slam into another fish, who will then look at you and say, “What the hell is your problem, buddy?”

Tempers are a bit short with everyone this week. The people who are sick of losing to Ohio State get snippy with the die hard fans who want to cheer on the program no matter what and visa versa. You just have to deal with it and move on.

by BSD on Nov 11, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1 for the first paragraph

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The first paragraph

is kind of what the PG13 rated version of Finding Nemo would be like.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's about right.

Look, this happens after a loss. Every time. Wouldn’t even matter if we were a 14 point underdog, this happens after a loss every time.

Deep breaths, people.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 11, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whadda ya mean "closet"?

He lists himself as a fan of their basketball team.

NOT ONE OF US.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My posts on PL are few and far between

it’s been about 3 years since my last post there. I’ve lurked on BSD for a long time. never posted.

Regardless, what does my join date have to do with ANYTHING?

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

DISSENTing opinions are fine, just dont be a douchea about it. Think the program should take a different direction? OK, great…now explain lucidly. This isn’t McCarthyism. Say your mind if its pseudo-intelligent, and we’ll accept your POV and judge accordingly. You’ll find that not everyone is alike here. Rambler isn’t even human, jtot likes the Irish, and Mike wears jorts. There’s a flavor for everyone…

by PSUJunny05 on Nov 11, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My opinion has been consistent for years

the cliffs notes version:

I think Kenny, Anderson and Hall need to be handed their walking papers. PSU seems to have 1 decent/above average O line every 4 years. We rarely turn out pros (not really the programs job, I know, but it is a major selling point to recruits and you’re lying to yurself if you think otherwise). Our peers do a MUCH better job at this facet of the game than we do. When the team underperforms as it has in the past decade at those positions, there needs to be some accountability.

There is no need to have 2 offensive coordinators. If neither of them can’t do a singular job on their own, they both are incapable.

We need to have a different mindset with scheduling. No more FCS squads. It ruins PSU credibility, reputation and merit in national rankings/national title discussions. Curley says it’s money. I say its laziness. There is no reason you can’t schedule a lower tier FBS team in place of an FCS team.

Finally, Paterno is great. He’s a legend, but there is absolutely no accountability within the program any more. Hence why certain coaches still remain on staff. When you lose accountability, you lose integrity and your performance suffer.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know why Cletus drug your tired old bones in here

he musta owed you somethin’ fierce.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 11, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know everything there is to know about the greatest game ever invented

you can use a lot of them, but I was getting frustrated by a seeming lack of recongition, so I started pulling out the more obvious ones.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 11, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In the interest of comparison

Texas has had 4 since 2006, Florida has had 4 since 2000, Nebraska has had 4 since 2004, Wisconsin has had 4 since 2003. Do you base opinion on what you happen to think?

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My point remains that we create a good O line once every

4-5 years and our peers do a much better job than we do in this facet of the game.

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

who? I want names of teams with offensive lines that dominate the big ten 80% of the time.

Even OSU, who has been out-recruiting everyone by a mile for an entire cycle, has had horrible offensive lines.

Who are these peers and what are their names?

BSD

by Kevin HD on Nov 11, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is pointless.

First they don’t get drafted. Now they don’t stay. I think offensive linemen have the shortest lifespans of any position. What schools are doing a better job? Again, naming “problems” without offering solutions. And “FIRE EVERYONE” doesn’t count, slappy.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to be a flabamxas fan

I’m positive there’s room on their bandwagons, even for you.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The following PSU o-linemen play in the NFL

Recent Grads:
Levi Brown
Rich Orhnberger
Tyler Reed

And a veteran:
Kareem Mckenzie

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 11, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and AQ is on the steelers practice sqaud

and don’t forget jeff hartings starting for like 10 years or something ridiculous like that.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or Marco Rivera

or Steve Wisnewski if you really want to go back in time.

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 11, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Munchak

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, those are just the current guys

as listed on espn.com.

We have had some damn good o-lineman in the league.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

by Roland86 on Nov 11, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

like a few others have said

our O-line isn’t any worse than our peers. Even the best O-lines are typically lines that have been together for a few years, and usually weren’t that good when they first got together. This is why you see the cycling of good, mediocre, decent, ok, good, mediocre, decent, ok, good. They take time to gel together. Why do you think that stat of “number of O-line starts correlates highly with number of wins for a team” got thrown around so much? It is mostly true (though slightly flawed).

As for scheduling FCS squads: has it ruined the credibility of any of the other schools that schedule them (and it is something like 5 schools in the country…or at least in the BCS, that don’t schedule FCS schools). You are delusional if you think PSU’s schedule is any different than any other school in the country. The reason we’re getting knocked for our strength of schedule this year is because the Big 10 looks downright weak, and we didn’t have any TOP marquee out of conference game. I doubt anyone will complain about our FCS schools in 2010 or 2011, because we have Alabama on our schedule. As has been pointed out before, it isn’t the quality of the bottom of your schedule, but the quality of the top of your schedule that determines how good it is.

And there is a very good reason why we can’t schedule a lower tier FBS team instead of an FCS school (and really how is that any tougher of an opponent?). FBS teams cost about twice as much $, and yet bring no bump to the schedule strength.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've posted the data on the costs of an FBS team vs an FCS team

and they are very close.

I’ll post some O line data later

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I, for one, and many others

share your opinion of the offensive line. I think you were being generous with your good Oline every 4-5 years. In 1994 the stars aligned and that is now the benchmark, which is unfair.

Posters are obviously piling on to get a rise out of you.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Nov 11, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and we had a good Oline in 99

and 2002, and 2005, and 2008.

so every 3 years, then?

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And what people are seemingly forgetting

is that this O-line wasn’t even terrible. They weren’t world-beaters, but they were serviceable against every team that didn’t have a possible top 10 defensive front.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 11, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Shhhh..

THEY’RE AWFUL! CLOSE THE SCHOOL!

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

Leave my jorts out of this.

by BSD on Nov 11, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing. Nothing at all.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what blog you've been reading...

but people here have been pretty tolerant with different opinions. There doesn’t seem to me to be any party line at BSD.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well done

I always liken football to arts. Your favorite band releases a CD with 10 good tracks and 2 shitty ones, you have a 5 course meal that’s fantastic except for the second course, you’re happy.

by InScoresOfOtherGames on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Does a ten win season (if we win the next two)

with no wins over ranked teams and 2 colossal losses at home taste good to you?

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 10:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tastes better than tOSU's 2-loss season or Iowa's 2-loss season

At least we lost to quality opponents…they each lost to a BigTen bottom dweller. I’d rather lost to good teams than lost to bad teams…wouldn’t you?

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 11, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It also tastes better than

2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006 and 2007.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Nov 11, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tastes better than 5-6

with losses to Toledo and Pitt. But maybe thats just me.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And, of all people,

Temple might well be ranked by season’s end.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tastes better than ’04 did. The 6-4 loss to Iowa tasted like that diaper I found on the beach.

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Nov 11, 2009 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

btw, I just re-read this comment since my first instinct was to post an Anchorman quote

but what the hell were you doing tasting a diaper you found on the beach, K-Gun? I know you’re a food scientist, but I’m guessing the food has ended it’s usefulness to humans if it’s in a diaper.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

first of all, let's be real friendly here, okay?

My name is Norm.

Secondly, your coaching days are over.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 11, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, bacon tastes good

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 11, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

With a new receiving corps, a new offensive line, and a new secondary?

That sounds fine. Especially since Iowa and Ohio State are better than us. If those are “colossal” losses to you.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NO, WE MUST CRUSH ALL

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Big losses hurt

but a two loss season doesn’t need to “taste good” to be considered a success, which is why even though the losses are to hated rivals, we’re still having a good season.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you have to look at the competition though

no wins against quality opponents isn’t a success to me. This is what many people are sturggling with I think.

10-2 with a terrible schedule and no quality wins = good season

or

10-2 with losses to two “better” teams = good season

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't those two things the same?

Granted Michigan still sucks, but we pulled off a win in Ann Arbor for the first time in over ten years, I’d consider that a quality win, even with a crappy opponent. No we don’t have a “big” win. We’re not playing in an overhyped SEC where every week a top 25 team is playing each other. We had two chances against two good opponents, we lost both, but still managed 8 wins in a league that is almost impossible to go undefeated in (just ask Iowa and tOSU). Expectations were high for this season, probably a little too high, but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad season. Look at the positives that we’ve seen this season: new group of WRs showing their ability to step up in the shadows of the Trio from last year, the DBs playing surprisingly well despite that being a weakness in the past, etc. There are a million ways to look at a season and see success, not all of them are necessarily in the amount of wins. 06/07 were tough seasons to get through, but while frustrating as hell, 9 wins is not a “bad” season.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ever since 2005

11-1 and a bcs win have apparently become the new standard.

i guess we’re back in the dark years guys…

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly don't get it

I wish we were undefeated obviously, but what the hell is wrong with 10-2? Is that really how the “casual” Penn State fan is going to be now? If we’re not making yearly MNC runs, there’s no point in playing anymore? It’s really confusing me, it doesn’t even sound like we’re talking about PSU. Sounds more like a tOSU, GoGator, or USC argument.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

just wait a couple years

when alabama fans have to watch their team slide back into ‘who gives a shit’. territory…it will be epic

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

10-2 Seasons

If we could win 10 games every year I would be thrilled. Yeah, there would be years like this one where you crap the bed in your two big games. But really, to me, it means we’re just one or two players away from being an elite team. What if we had something more than a scarecrow at right tackle this year, and we could upgrade one of our safeties with a more athletic version? It might have been enough to tip the scales in our favor last weekend.

So while 10-2 seasons like this one are tough to swallow, I take heart in the fact that we’re not that far off from winning it all. Win ten games every year, and every 3 or 4 years you’ll have a shot at something special.

by BSD on Nov 11, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

^this...

and PSU rarely loses to poor teams (non-bowl teams) and in recent seasons they have become much better at winning on the road. When’s the last time PSU dropped a game like anO$U did to 1-5 Purdue?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I think they’re a tendency to look at this team and say, “Man, we’re no better than Northwestern or Minnesota.”

No, actually, we beat Northwestern and Minnesota. While it’s not as impressive as beating Iowa and Ohio State, it sure beat LOSING to Northwestern and Minnesota.

The fact is that Penn State is in the upper tier of the Big Ten. If not for a blocked punt against Iowa and a few players missing on the offensive line, this team could have won the Big Ten. We’re pretty dang close, and if you keep hanging around at the top of the Big Ten year in and year out, good things will eventually happen for you.

by BSD on Nov 11, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well met.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even PSU...

being on the short side of things against anO$U, Iowa and scUM more times than not over the last 10 years or so, it’s not like the futility that Georgia has against Florida (losing somthing like 16 of the last 19 or 20) or Army against Navy or Norte Dame against USC.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or Notre Dame against Navy

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHHA

Cracks me up every time! It’s almost as good as the announcement last year during the MSU game when ND lost to SYRACUSE!!!!

“WE’RE TOTALLY GOING TO THE BCS THIS YEAR!!!!” ~Domer fan or Jtot from the beginning of the year.

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My boss’s son goes to ND and the boss goes up to South Bend for a game every other year. He went to the loss to Navy this past weekend. 2 years ago? The loss to Navy! If Charlie Weiss gets fired, you can thank my boss.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 12, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what your point is other than to be obtuse

Northwestern hasn’t won a Big Ten title since 2000. Aside from ‘95, Northwestern has only beaten us when we were terrible. Northwestern hasn’t gone to a New Year’s Day bowl game since 1996. Northwestern hasn’t won a bowl game since, hell, I don’t even know.

Northwestern isn’t close to the top level of this conference.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Psst.. Over here.

’49 Rose Bowl.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And, actually

Michigan was undefeated national champions in 1947 and 48. Northwestern only got to go because the Big Ten couldn’t send the same team in back to back years.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

That is WEAK.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, they are not at all...

but people seem to forget that they have as many big ten titles as we do since we joined. W

by brd119 on Nov 11, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

MAROOOOOOOOONNSSS!!!

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and if things work out just right

we could wind up getting a “shared” big 10 title this year (the same year that you apparently think is an utter disaster)

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So I'm confused

Are you more interested in the past of this program or the future? We can’t go back and play the 1999 season, so what does that matter in regard to this team and the future?

Right now we’re a 10-2 team that’s just one or two players away from going undefeated as I see it. Not bad for a team that had to replace all of their wide receivers, the offensive line, and the secondary. If you expect perfection every year, you are going to be a very disappointed fan. I don’t care who you cheer for.

by BSD on Nov 12, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Consistent 10 win seasons would be great

I’m not as upset about the fact that we lost 2 games, but the way the team looked in those losses. Sloppy play. Dumb mistakes. I’d rather play well and lose to a better team then help out the other team by playing poorly. And that was part of the case in the Iowa and OSU games. Now it’s time to take care of business and win the next 2.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 12, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Change next 2 to next 3 and we're in agreement

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 12, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree. Typo

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 12, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

while there were definitely some sloppy plays and dumb mistakes in the Iowa and (to some extent) OSU games

it wasn’t like it was THAT much more than normal. What killed us was we were just absolutely dominated by their D-lines, and that led to a lot more pressure than normal, which leads to having to make decisions quicker, which leads to more chance for mistakes. And then you start getting into the mindset that EVERY play has to be rushed, so even when the line could hold the defenders off long enough, Clark was sensing non-existant pressure and still rushed his decisions.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

our “normal” unspecial teams and Oline play hasn’t been very good this year, but it didn’t really matter too much until we played some decent teams. We were still able to win all those other games because of the other facets of the team. And I do agree that both of those Dlines killed us.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 12, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the pre-hate hate

I’m just irritated at the line of reasoning that goes, “I care about my team so much that I’m giving up on them. If you don’t give up on them too, you’re a less knowledgeable fan than me.” I’ve heard it a million times before, and if PSU defeats Indiana and MSU by a combined score of 100-0 it all magically fades away. Then we lose our bowl game and it comes out again.

Hey, I have a lot of the same negativity and gripes as a lot of Penn State fans. If I was the second person to sign up on a site called FireTimCurley.com I’d be irritated I wasn’t the first. Half of the reason I made an Eastern Illinois Hate Week was due to the absolute farce of a schedule the 2009 season has been. But frankly it’s football, it’s supposed to be fun, and it’s supposed to be in perspective.

by Cairo on Nov 11, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

actually

if there is one good thing that came out of this schedule, it would be this weekly post.

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really confused

Spandex unitards are not CURRENTLY a socially acceptable fashion statement?

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 11, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

you're just ahead of the curve, my friend

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Nov 11, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WHEW!

Cause was my face red there for a second.

"the secret to loving your job is having a hobby that you really despise"

by nitwit86 on Nov 11, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

German girls are hot!!

Seriously, let’s not forget the fantastic recruiting class we have coming in next year (fingers crossed), since that’s where future successes start.

"What we've got here is a failure to communicate" Cool Hand Luke

by OlderBudweiser on Nov 11, 2009 11:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Like a sausage-fest multiplied by a hundred, but with no TV nor beer.

No TV and no beer make Homer something something…

"The only cohesive passing game in the whole damn conference was in Happy Valley." -Rivalry Esq.

by BSmith717 on Nov 11, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Go crazy?

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Nov 11, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not obese?

We decide when you hear the snap count...

by thedrizzle on Nov 11, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is tough

Hating Indiana is like hating Charley Brown.

by ageing lion on Nov 11, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Look at it this way,

Charlie Brown must have done something to get Lucy to pull that ball away all those times.

by mvrck on Nov 11, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

^THIS^

"Every player we have, someone—maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone—poured their life and soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world." - Joe Paterno

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 11, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my word

This could seriously be some of your best work on here, Jnitt! You wear the scars of credibility to pull this one off.

I laughed pretty hard.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 11, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indiana didn't create Charlie Brown

But it did create Garfield! (Jim Davis…Muncie, IN)

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 11, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And seriously..

If 10-2 or even 9-3 isn’t good enough for your elite sensibilities, ask Iowa how they’d like it. There’s about 100 teams out there that would kill to go 10-2 once a decade.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pick a better team than Iowa

They have more 10 win seasons than us in this decade.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

cornLOLROTFG

BSD

by Kevin HD on Nov 11, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, one more. Same as scUM.

I was trying to go with an “upper level” program, to prove a point. Fine, ask Idaho how they’d like it.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would have gone with Michigan State

They have great tradition from back in the 60s but then they didn’t have a 10 win season until 1999 and they haven’t had one since.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Purdue or Minnesota would also be good

Or, cough, Pitt.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Christ Jesu, man

I said “upper level”

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nebraska and Notre Dame would work for "programs with more wins than us"

Nebraska has three 10 win seasons, and notre dame has two. In the 2000’s, that is.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point, but

PSU should aim a little higher. I don’t think it is unrealistic to expect to be better in the long run than Iowa, this decade notwithstanding.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love how there's SO MUCH HATE

that people have gotten to the point where us going 10-2 and playing in NYD bowl game has caused them TO ACTUALLY HATE PENN STATE!

Fascinating.

by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 11, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Screw PSU

If I wanted to cheer for a top 15 program, I’d cheer for Ohio State damnit.

I hate Penn State. Their fans are so arrogant about those black shoes. Big deal.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Another thing I hate about Penn State and their fans:

Jinxes scare them. They hate it when people say “going 10-2” because they’re concerned about Michigan State. Cowards.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sparty?

I’m more worried about IU, for now. They’re a good football team. This is a different kind of football team. They’ve hustled and made some plays this year. They’re running to the ball and tackling better. They have a great scheme on defense. They give you an awful lot of problems. It’s a tough team.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

I was just being sarcastic.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

I was just being catty.

Deus nobiscum, quis contra?

by chocochuck02 on Nov 11, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did it hurt you to type that?

I mean not the hate Penn State part, but the “cheer for Ohio State damnit” part?

by dawsonPSU10 on Nov 11, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This may be IU'S 14th losing season

out of the last 15. Their avg. attendance: 31, 782. Memorial stadium holds 49, 225. It’s pretty bad when you give up a B10 home game so you can play PSU @ FedEx Field(which is really a PSU “home” game with some 40,000 alumni in the Wash/Maryland/N. Virginia area) because you can make more money on it as an away game. I hate these boobs. I wish they would rotate off the schedule for good or make their inactive status official. Playing Temple Once a year is enough.

by penntatefan on Nov 11, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

seriously

who thought at the beginning of the year that Temple would be this year’s Oregon State?

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Going this weekend

First time since the Orange Bowl against those evil Florida slimebags, in an endless triple overtime. The only other times I’ve been there in person were against Temple in Philly (lame, but I got a Schmitter) and when tOSU beat us by one, but we had an epic goal-line stand that turned around our next season.

Looking forward to grilled stickies and Peachy Paterno, and thinking about setting up shop at the tailgate to sell my Million-Dollar Idea, Peachy Paternovers.

by growler on Nov 11, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just noticed this

Was the selection of the FedEx Field Picture that included a guy in a Antwan Randall El Jersey intentional?

Beat Indiana, I guess.

by jesse. on Nov 12, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely.

I considered erasing Clinton Portis and putting a Trent Green jersey on him.

by Cairo on Nov 12, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Another hilarious hate post, Cairo!

Loved this: “Source: The Dark Recesses of my Mind.” It takes a twisted mind to generate this much hate against a place like Indiana. Gradulations!

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 12, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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